They didn't draft Richburg? They didn't draft Pugh? They didn't draft Hart? 4 of the 5 starting OL were drafted. But you call them "Morons" for not drafting OL?
Good lawd. I just don't understand why people just don't get it..Does it matter if Reese did indeed fuck up years ago as it pertains to the OL? It's over with. Done. Finito. The last bunch of years he's addressing it..Enough already with this crap. It really is getting old..
Another fella doesn't realize they didn't draft anybody. Who was the big free agent signing this past offseason.
When you add three guys over six years. That's not paying attention. Compare it to how many bodies have been drafted for WR and HB that never contribute or contributed. The lists is a mile long and good linemen were passed up. Hence, the mess of today.
Who the fuck was abailable to sign? Okung? Penn wanted back in Oakland. Jake Long is a cripple..WHO was available that wasn't snapped up immediately after FA started while we were fixing our historically bad D? WHO???
Heck, Bobby Hart wasn't even a starter in college yet he's already a starter hereb/c there is no depth. Oh yeah, great job.
Ah, hate to break it to you, but Hart started playing (starting) midway through his freshman year at FSU as a 17 year old. He started a LT and moved to RT and was basically a 4 year starter on one of the best programs in Div 1. So obviously you know jack shit.
we got Weston Richburg, Landon Collins and Sterling Shepard as second round picks -- you really want to give up a second rounder for an expensive old lineman ? It really doesn't seem very prudent to me - that's the kind of move that kills the cap and creates a problem two or three years down the road.
Heck, Bobby Hart wasn't even a starter in college yet he's already a starter hereb/c there is no depth. Oh yeah, great job.
Ah, hate to break it to you, but Hart started playing (starting) midway through his freshman year at FSU as a 17 year old. He started a LT and moved to RT and was basically a 4 year starter on one of the best programs in Div 1. So obviously you know jack shit.
I watch ever Fla State game and he was brought in and out often. Think he dropped to Round 7 b/c he was a four year starter? I know more than you fella so stick shit comment in your foul mouth.
we got Weston Richburg, Landon Collins and Sterling Shepard as second round picks -- you really want to give up a second rounder for an expensive old lineman ? It really doesn't seem very prudent to me - that's the kind of move that kills the cap and creates a problem two or three years down the road.
Not at that age. Considering the hit rate of 3rd Rounders though. I might do it. No way for a 2nd or better.
Who the fuck was abailable to sign? Okung? Penn wanted back in Oakland. Jake Long is a cripple..WHO was available that wasn't snapped up immediately after FA started while we were fixing our historically bad D? WHO???
Heck, Bobby Hart wasn't even a starter in college yet he's already a starter hereb/c there is no depth. Oh yeah, great job.
Ah, hate to break it to you, but Hart started playing (starting) midway through his freshman year at FSU as a 17 year old. He started a LT and moved to RT and was basically a 4 year starter on one of the best programs in Div 1. So obviously you know jack shit.
I watch ever Fla State game and he was brought in and out often. Think he dropped to Round 7 b/c he was a four year starter? I know more than you fella so stick shit comment in your foul mouth.
and get pissed the Giants, who were among many other interested teams, didn't sign him.
I'm curious what this teams looks like if we don't have Snacks or Jenkins and instead have a top paid Guard or RT. I'm guessing we still don't run the ball all that well and we either get run on, or passed on at much higher rates.
Who the fuck was abailable to sign? Okung? Penn wanted back in Oakland. Jake Long is a cripple..WHO was available that wasn't snapped up immediately after FA started while we were fixing our historically bad D? WHO???
Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So they didn't draft Flowers?
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Since you had no answer to my fact-based responses, You gave an answer that is typical of a person who has none. A vacuous response that says absolutely nothing..Throw out the "obviously you're part of the group...." line that somehow and mysteriously is dupposed to make some point..I gave you facts, now refute them..You said, "Osemele, thanks." I provided you with info that showed you were wrong. Refute that instead of trying to escape tge conversation with the handy copout ("obviously you're part if the group") indigenous to those who have nothing to refute..We're done here..
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So they didn't draft Flowers?
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Since you had no answer to my fact-based responses, You gave an answer that is typical of a person who has none. A vacuous response that says absolutely nothing..Throw out the "obviously you're part of the group...." line that somehow and mysteriously is dupposed to make some point..I gave you facts, now refute them..You said, "Osemele, thanks." I provided you with info that showed you were wrong. Refute that instead of trying to escape tge conversation with the handy copout ("obviously you're part if the group") indigenous to those who have nothing to refute..We're done here..
Not going to dig for every post I've made regarding the OL appease your type skippy. The OL stinks so who knows what you have followed over the years or are aware of today. You sound like a fantasy kid. Bug off
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So they didn't draft Flowers?
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Since you had no answer to my fact-based responses, You gave an answer that is typical of a person who has none. A vacuous response that says absolutely nothing..Throw out the "obviously you're part of the group...." line that somehow and mysteriously is dupposed to make some point..I gave you facts, now refute them..You said, "Osemele, thanks." I provided you with info that showed you were wrong. Refute that instead of trying to escape tge conversation with the handy copout ("obviously you're part if the group") indigenous to those who have nothing to refute..We're done here..
Not going to dig for every post I've made regarding the OL appease your type skippy. The OL stinks so who knows what you have followed over the years or are aware of today. You sound like a fantasy kid. Bug off
Listen you pathetic child, I have seen over 1000 Giants games in my life. I have never played one second of FF, nor do I ever intend to..Suspend the nastiness, grow up and answer the facts put forth to you. READ the posts comprehensively instead of perusing them in passing and opting instead to trot out the usual standby cliches that say nothing..
and believe the Giants have paid special attention to the OL despite the history which is the direct result of what we have today. Bravo and you're wrong
But we still have a ton of issues: OL, MLB, TE, even WR. We need a guy on the outside opposite OBJ so Shep can play slot, and I don't think that Cruz is the difference maker he once was.
I think of this year as somewhere in between 2004 and 2005. We have some pieces in place but the team is an off-season away from fielding a well rounded team. That doesn't mean the Giants can't make noise this season and I don't think the D needs much work at all other than more DE talent.
for Thomas? I know I wouldn't. When you hit on a 2nd rounder like it appears we did, it's huge for the team. Of course you need to factor in that we don't always hit, but Reese seems to be a very good early rounds drafter.
Thomas is a pro, and might even improve after being placed on a team that actually belongs in the NFL. I think he'd elevate the Giants to a 10-6 type team.
Making the playoffs matters. This team doesn't figure to be a contender buy a playoff appearance after four years of futility is a good way to enter 2017.
for Thomas? I know I wouldn't. When you hit on a 2nd rounder like it appears we did, it's huge for the team.
...and when you miss on some high draft picks on the OL, it kills you. We need a solid running game more than we need Shepard. Please tell me.. what exactly is Shepard doing for us right now? A catch here and there? This is not a knock on Shepard because other than one game, OBJ is ordinary too. All due to our O-line.
Right now, I would trade Eli and OBJ for Derek Carr, Crabtree and a solid O-line that can run the ball. Before you jump through the computer, just think about it for a minute. This offense would be more efficient.
I will argue the opposite though, I believe fans undervalue the importance of picks. I feel(I could be wrong) that most of the teams with sustained success have 2 things...an elite QB and a team riddled with their own draft picks.
I also feel like this might be one of those situations where I'd trade a 2 for Thomas because of how bad we need it. I'm just pointing out how big it is for a team when they hit on a guy like Shepard or Collins.
This guy can play another 4 years at a high level in comparison of what we have. I would be more comfortable with trading a 3rd rounder and a 6th the following year than giving up a 2nd. If he helps to get us into the playoffs it becomes a late 3rd. Eli needs to feel safe out there as of now I do not see that happening. My only concern is the Browns are on their 5th QB. Where is the pressure coming from that has knocked out the 1st 4.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So they didn't draft Flowers?
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Well currently we have two first round picks and one second round pick starting on the OL.
It doesn't really fit the narrative that the OL has been forsaken.
Get this done. Period. Fix this fucking atrocious OL. Period. Thus team is not improving offensively with the 5-7 OL they currently have. And if they don't improve offensively, they're not going to the playoffs.
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It is about a porous run blocking line as anybody in
this league.
I laugh when people say so and so is having a 'good year',
yeah unless you don't count run blocking.
Then their best 'running back' gets benched as soon as
Jennings comes back. Darkwa had 55 yards on 11 carries,
then 48 yards on 12 carries. His reward is the bench,
I just don't get it myself. I am not saying Darkwa is some star, just better than what they have running the ball.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So they didn't draft Flowers?
Well currently we have two first round picks and one second round pick starting on the OL.
It doesn't really fit the narrative that the OL has been forsaken.
If people are saying that we have "ignored" the O-line then I would agree with you. That is false. The issue is whether we addressed it effectively. So, we used 2 first round picks...wonderful. If the O-line is playing at the bottom of the league, then we have a serious problem. We knew the O-line was a problem despite those picks going into camp this year. So, from that perspective it looks like (from the outside) that we ignored their performance last season and just rolled into this year with the same under performing group.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So they didn't draft Flowers?
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Well currently we have two first round picks and one second round pick starting on the OL.
It doesn't really fit the narrative that the OL has been forsaken.
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How about the right side of the line, really two backups there. I consider Jerry a backup myself, always been a pillow as a run blocker. Some people on here think he is better than he actually is.
There's also a decent chance that whoever we draft in the second round
The more I think about it, the more I'd be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Joe Thomas.
It's not like we have Eli Manning for another decade. We have hopefully 4-5 more years of Eli.
That reason alone, makes it worth giving up a 2nd rounder for a T Joe Thomas. You're getting an All-Pro Tackle to protect our franchise QB. We may miss out on a good young player, but we could also miss on the #2 pick ala Marvin Austin.
For the next two years (that's what he's under contract for after this year) We would have Thomas, Pugh, Richburg, Jerry?, and Flowers.
We won't have to worry about our Tackle position in the offseason and can use a first round pick on a stud pass rusher or some place else.
I'd be surprised if this happens, but I'm glad the Giants are one of the teams listed as interested and I would definitely give up a #2 pick for Thomas.
I wouldn't eat his contract AND hand over a #2 pick
I would give up a 2
EddieNYG : 1:52 pm : link : reply
The more I think about it, the more I'd be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Joe Thomas.
It's not like we have Eli Manning for another decade. We have hopefully 4-5 more years of Eli.
That reason alone, makes it worth giving up a 2nd rounder for a T Joe Thomas. You're getting an All-Pro Tackle to protect our franchise QB. We may miss out on a good young player, but we could also miss on the #2 pick ala Marvin Austin.
For the next two years (that's what he's under contract for after this year) We would have Thomas, Pugh, Richburg, Jerry?, and Flowers.
We won't have to worry about our Tackle position in the offseason and can use a first round pick on a stud pass rusher or some place else.
I'd be surprised if this happens, but I'm glad the Giants are one of the teams listed as interested and I would definitely give up a #2 pick for Thomas.
The Goal is a Lombardi we have the QB and the Defense .
We will have 3-4 more chances before we are looking for the next Eli . a 2nd round pick is steep but not if it puts us
in contention for the next 3-4 years
Browns coach Hue Jackson insists the team isn't going to trade LT Joe Thomas.
"We. Are. Not. Going. To. Trade. Joe. Thomas," were how Jackson's words were stylized by the team's Twitter account. It's unequivocal, but we'd guess everything remains negotiable for the tanking Browns. Jackson undoubtedly values Thomas' leadership on a young team, but not even an All-Pro left tackle has been able to prevent every Browns quarterback from getting hurt. Trading Thomas makes sense if the opportunity presents itself.
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They didn't draft Richburg? They didn't draft Pugh? They didn't draft Hart? 4 of the 5 starting OL were drafted. But you call them "Morons" for not drafting OL?
Good lawd. I just don't understand why people just don't get it..Does it matter if Reese did indeed fuck up years ago as it pertains to the OL? It's over with. Done. Finito. The last bunch of years he's addressing it..Enough already with this crap. It really is getting old..
Another fella doesn't realize they didn't draft anybody. Who was the big free agent signing this past offseason.
When you add three guys over six years. That's not paying attention. Compare it to how many bodies have been drafted for WR and HB that never contribute or contributed. The lists is a mile long and good linemen were passed up. Hence, the mess of today.
Who the fuck was abailable to sign? Okung? Penn wanted back in Oakland. Jake Long is a cripple..WHO was available that wasn't snapped up immediately after FA started while we were fixing our historically bad D? WHO???
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Heck, Bobby Hart wasn't even a starter in college yet he's already a starter hereb/c there is no depth. Oh yeah, great job.
Ah, hate to break it to you, but Hart started playing (starting) midway through his freshman year at FSU as a 17 year old. He started a LT and moved to RT and was basically a 4 year starter on one of the best programs in Div 1. So obviously you know jack shit.
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Heck, Bobby Hart wasn't even a starter in college yet he's already a starter hereb/c there is no depth. Oh yeah, great job.
Ah, hate to break it to you, but Hart started playing (starting) midway through his freshman year at FSU as a 17 year old. He started a LT and moved to RT and was basically a 4 year starter on one of the best programs in Div 1. So obviously you know jack shit.
I watch ever Fla State game and he was brought in and out often. Think he dropped to Round 7 b/c he was a four year starter? I know more than you fella so stick shit comment in your foul mouth.
Not at that age. Considering the hit rate of 3rd Rounders though. I might do it. No way for a 2nd or better.
Who the fuck was abailable to sign? Okung? Penn wanted back in Oakland. Jake Long is a cripple..WHO was available that wasn't snapped up immediately after FA started while we were fixing our historically bad D? WHO???
Osemele, thanks
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In comment 13188507 PeterinAtlanta said:
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Heck, Bobby Hart wasn't even a starter in college yet he's already a starter hereb/c there is no depth. Oh yeah, great job.
Ah, hate to break it to you, but Hart started playing (starting) midway through his freshman year at FSU as a 17 year old. He started a LT and moved to RT and was basically a 4 year starter on one of the best programs in Div 1. So obviously you know jack shit.
I watch ever Fla State game and he was brought in and out often. Think he dropped to Round 7 b/c he was a four year starter? I know more than you fella so stick shit comment in your foul mouth.
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I'm curious what this teams looks like if we don't have Snacks or Jenkins and instead have a top paid Guard or RT. I'm guessing we still don't run the ball all that well and we either get run on, or passed on at much higher rates.
This wasn't a 1 offseason fix.
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Who the fuck was abailable to sign? Okung? Penn wanted back in Oakland. Jake Long is a cripple..WHO was available that wasn't snapped up immediately after FA started while we were fixing our historically bad D? WHO???
Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
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Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Since you had no answer to my fact-based responses, You gave an answer that is typical of a person who has none. A vacuous response that says absolutely nothing..Throw out the "obviously you're part of the group...." line that somehow and mysteriously is dupposed to make some point..I gave you facts, now refute them..You said, "Osemele, thanks." I provided you with info that showed you were wrong. Refute that instead of trying to escape tge conversation with the handy copout ("obviously you're part if the group") indigenous to those who have nothing to refute..We're done here..
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Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Since you had no answer to my fact-based responses, You gave an answer that is typical of a person who has none. A vacuous response that says absolutely nothing..Throw out the "obviously you're part of the group...." line that somehow and mysteriously is dupposed to make some point..I gave you facts, now refute them..You said, "Osemele, thanks." I provided you with info that showed you were wrong. Refute that instead of trying to escape tge conversation with the handy copout ("obviously you're part if the group") indigenous to those who have nothing to refute..We're done here..
Not going to dig for every post I've made regarding the OL appease your type skippy. The OL stinks so who knows what you have followed over the years or are aware of today. You sound like a fantasy kid. Bug off
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In comment 13188677 Big Blue '56 said:
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Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Since you had no answer to my fact-based responses, You gave an answer that is typical of a person who has none. A vacuous response that says absolutely nothing..Throw out the "obviously you're part of the group...." line that somehow and mysteriously is dupposed to make some point..I gave you facts, now refute them..You said, "Osemele, thanks." I provided you with info that showed you were wrong. Refute that instead of trying to escape tge conversation with the handy copout ("obviously you're part if the group") indigenous to those who have nothing to refute..We're done here..
Not going to dig for every post I've made regarding the OL appease your type skippy. The OL stinks so who knows what you have followed over the years or are aware of today. You sound like a fantasy kid. Bug off
Listen you pathetic child, I have seen over 1000 Giants games in my life. I have never played one second of FF, nor do I ever intend to..Suspend the nastiness, grow up and answer the facts put forth to you. READ the posts comprehensively instead of perusing them in passing and opting instead to trot out the usual standby cliches that say nothing..
I think of this year as somewhere in between 2004 and 2005. We have some pieces in place but the team is an off-season away from fielding a well rounded team. That doesn't mean the Giants can't make noise this season and I don't think the D needs much work at all other than more DE talent.
Has it been 9 years since Staley was drafted. Iirc, didn't a bunch on here feel he was taken too high or, am I misremembering?
Making the playoffs matters. This team doesn't figure to be a contender buy a playoff appearance after four years of futility is a good way to enter 2017.
Better blocking means defenses have to respect our ability to run, something that currently is not the case.
...and when you miss on some high draft picks on the OL, it kills you. We need a solid running game more than we need Shepard. Please tell me.. what exactly is Shepard doing for us right now? A catch here and there? This is not a knock on Shepard because other than one game, OBJ is ordinary too. All due to our O-line.
Right now, I would trade Eli and OBJ for Derek Carr, Crabtree and a solid O-line that can run the ball. Before you jump through the computer, just think about it for a minute. This offense would be more efficient.
The draft is crucial to team building, but fans tend to over value individual picks. Thomas is a known quantity in an area of tremendous weakness.
This team is in need of a change to a culture of winning. So is this player. It could be a great match.
I also feel like this might be one of those situations where I'd trade a 2 for Thomas because of how bad we need it. I'm just pointing out how big it is for a team when they hit on a guy like Shepard or Collins.
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Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Well currently we have two first round picks and one second round pick starting on the OL.
It doesn't really fit the narrative that the OL has been forsaken.
It is about a porous run blocking line as anybody in
this league.
I laugh when people say so and so is having a 'good year',
yeah unless you don't count run blocking.
Then their best 'running back' gets benched as soon as
Jennings comes back. Darkwa had 55 yards on 11 carries,
then 48 yards on 12 carries. His reward is the bench,
I just don't get it myself. I am not saying Darkwa is some star, just better than what they have running the ball.
Well currently we have two first round picks and one second round pick starting on the OL.
It doesn't really fit the narrative that the OL has been forsaken.
If people are saying that we have "ignored" the O-line then I would agree with you. That is false. The issue is whether we addressed it effectively. So, we used 2 first round picks...wonderful. If the O-line is playing at the bottom of the league, then we have a serious problem. We knew the O-line was a problem despite those picks going into camp this year. So, from that perspective it looks like (from the outside) that we ignored their performance last season and just rolled into this year with the same under performing group.
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Osemele, thanks
Again, re-read my post. FA started March 9th..Osemele was assigned less than a day later while we were fixing our pathetic D..You're quite welcome..
Obviously you're part of that group that believe attention was really given to the OL over the years. The line's play speaks for itself without even digging into the history. You think otherwise, good for you. The line stinks for reasons which escape you.
Well currently we have two first round picks and one second round pick starting on the OL.
It doesn't really fit the narrative that the OL has been forsaken.
How about the right side of the line, really two backups there. I consider Jerry a backup myself, always been a pillow as a run blocker. Some people on here think he is better than he actually is.
It also doesn't matter much to hit on Shepard if the line is too poor to take advantage of his talents. Thomas makes Shepard better. Collins too.
If he was 28 or 29, I would give up a 2nd.
If he was 28 or 29, I would give up a 2nd.
If Thomas was 28, I'd part with a 1st
It also doesn't matter much to hit on Shepard if the line is too poor to take advantage of his talents. Thomas makes Shepard better. Collins too.
Why does anyone believe that Thomas will play until he's 35?
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is only here for four years, like Thomas would figure to be.
It also doesn't matter much to hit on Shepard if the line is too poor to take advantage of his talents. Thomas makes Shepard better. Collins too.
Why does anyone believe that Thomas will play until he's 35?
Even if he only plays here at a high level for two years, he's worth it.
The offensive line is an albatross. The only reason the team isn't 2-5 is Eli and McAdoo realizing this and tailoring the offense accordingly.
It's not like we have Eli Manning for another decade. We have hopefully 4-5 more years of Eli.
That reason alone, makes it worth giving up a 2nd rounder for a T Joe Thomas. You're getting an All-Pro Tackle to protect our franchise QB. We may miss out on a good young player, but we could also miss on the #2 pick ala Marvin Austin.
For the next two years (that's what he's under contract for after this year) We would have Thomas, Pugh, Richburg, Jerry?, and Flowers.
We won't have to worry about our Tackle position in the offseason and can use a first round pick on a stud pass rusher or some place else.
I'd be surprised if this happens, but I'm glad the Giants are one of the teams listed as interested and I would definitely give up a #2 pick for Thomas.
EddieNYG : 1:52 pm : link : reply
The more I think about it, the more I'd be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Joe Thomas.
It's not like we have Eli Manning for another decade. We have hopefully 4-5 more years of Eli.
That reason alone, makes it worth giving up a 2nd rounder for a T Joe Thomas. You're getting an All-Pro Tackle to protect our franchise QB. We may miss out on a good young player, but we could also miss on the #2 pick ala Marvin Austin.
For the next two years (that's what he's under contract for after this year) We would have Thomas, Pugh, Richburg, Jerry?, and Flowers.
We won't have to worry about our Tackle position in the offseason and can use a first round pick on a stud pass rusher or some place else.
I'd be surprised if this happens, but I'm glad the Giants are one of the teams listed as interested and I would definitely give up a #2 pick for Thomas.
The Goal is a Lombardi we have the QB and the Defense .
We will have 3-4 more chances before we are looking for the next Eli . a 2nd round pick is steep but not if it puts us
in contention for the next 3-4 years
Browns coach Hue Jackson insists the team isn't going to trade LT Joe Thomas.
"We. Are. Not. Going. To. Trade. Joe. Thomas," were how Jackson's words were stylized by the team's Twitter account. It's unequivocal, but we'd guess everything remains negotiable for the tanking Browns. Jackson undoubtedly values Thomas' leadership on a young team, but not even an All-Pro left tackle has been able to prevent every Browns quarterback from getting hurt. Trading Thomas makes sense if the opportunity presents itself.