- There is a popular theory going along that the show is actually showing two different timelines, and that William (Jimmi Simpson) is actually a young Man in Black making his first visit to the park. I'm not sure I buy it, but with all the flashbacks (and maybe even flash forwards), it seems likely that not everything we see is happening at the same time.
- Bernard. Another popular theory picking up steam is that Bernard might actually be a robot/host, created by Dr. Ford. Ford knows a lot about Bernard, the same way he might know about another host's story. I'm not sure I am completely on board with this one either, but, I absolutely believe that at least one of the characters we think is human will turn out to be a creation of Ford's.
- We saw Dr. Ford getting a church back together a couple weeks back, and now last night we saw Dolores having intense flashbacks to a church scene. Is this where Arnold died in the park?
I guess we confirmed the man in black is a human this episode?
But then how can he morph into the no name villains in the barn with Delores?
I thought we confirmed the Man in Black being a human that in Episode 1? Not to mention, the Delos employees have mentioned him being a visitor and allowed to do whatever he wants before last night's episode.
He didn't morph - I'm pretty certain that was Dolores imagining/picturing him, using a memory to overpower her programming that was preventing her from pulling the trigger before.
Ford finally mentioned the name of the corporation
I've been waiting for this since it was prominent in the orig movie. Did anyone else catch this little Easter egg after the credits? Delos - ( New Window )
in the flashback scene where Ford described the three years spent working before the park was opened....they show the creation of a host with a beard. Is that supposed to be either Logan (one of the main guests) or Hector (one of the main "bad guy" hosts)??? They lingered on his face quite a bit but I couldn't tell if he was supposed to be either of those guys (or neither of them I guess).
Agreed - this sheds some light on how the plot lines work.
This is probably going into too much thought and detail.....
But why would they have a branch that is Teddy saving delores from a guest?
Teddy is an accomplished gunslinger, not some lovesick cowpoke. An 'amateur' guest wouldn't get the best of him, and should be relieved just to survive the encounter - which can be as big an adrenaline rush as winning. The Man in Black has no trouble dispatching Teddy now, after years of facing him. I doubt their first meeting ended that way.
We got more clues about Ed Harris's identity this week, particularly that his Institute funded another guest's research, and that the topic is off-limits in the park.
Caught most last night, missed the 1st 10 minutes;
so Ed Harris is/has been searching for the actual reason why Arnold died/disappeared? What is his relationship to Arnold. Looks too old to be a son. Brother, maybe?
Dr. Ford sure scared the crap out of Theresa at lunch...
I liked the concept: Maeve is liberated by the realization that nothing in their world - including and especially death - is real. So now, her scripted credo ("...in this world, you can be whoever the f*ck you want") is likely to take a sinister turn.
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
I liked the concept: Maeve is liberated by the realization that nothing in their world - including and especially death - is real. So now, her scripted credo ("...in this world, you can be whoever the f*ck you want") is likely to take a sinister turn.
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
Along that line, didn't Dr Ford say Arnold wanted the hosts to evolve, to be able to think, become self aware, where he was afraid of that happening?
The hosts are becoming aware that their actions have no consequences, and they are gaining access to memories of the terrible things that have been done to them. That combination can't possibly end well. The obvious guess is that Season 1 ends with a host killing Logan, avenging a multitude of crimes from his previous visits. But maybe that's too easy.
I liked the concept: Maeve is liberated by the realization that nothing in their world - including and especially death - is real. So now, her scripted credo ("...in this world, you can be whoever the f*ck you want") is likely to take a sinister turn.
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
On leaving the slugl: There's pressure on Maintenance to get the hosts fixed and back up top as soon as possible. Fords plans/narrative is causing havoc on the other narratives and they need to keep as many host working as possible. Therefore Maintenance is just sloppy... One thing that says a lot about the attitude toward the host is that the Delos diagram which shows the levels of the complex in the mesa has the repair area named: Livestock Management
I liked the concept: Maeve is liberated by the realization that nothing in their world - including and especially death - is real. So now, her scripted credo ("...in this world, you can be whoever the f*ck you want") is likely to take a sinister turn.
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
Agree with Tony -
In Maeve's vision you can hear the doctor saying he had one more bullet to remove, but someone is pressuring him to "hurry it up and patch her up" because she was needed ASAP back in WestWorld.
Those technicians have no reason to think that 1) Maeve would remember being shot; 2) actually take the action to opening herself up and looking for a bullet
RE: Caught most last night, missed the 1st 10 minutes;
In Maeve's vision you can hear the doctor saying he had one more bullet to remove, but someone is pressuring him to "hurry it up and patch her up" because she was needed ASAP back in WestWorld.
Excellent catch, and 100% correct. Thanks. I was dozing a bit during that earlier scene.
Thandie Newton is going to be a handful when Hell breaks loose. Looking forward to that.
Am I the only one who expected him to start calling her Clarice during that lunch? Definitely had a Dr. Hannibal Lecter feel to that scene :).
When in doubt, he goes big, and it usually works for him. He's not always Dr. Creepy McLiverburger, of course. Quite often, he's Mr. Neville O'Nebbishface (Shadowlands, Remains of the Day, Howard's End, 84 Charing Cross Road, etc.). Dr. Ford has some Jekyll in him too, but he's definitely veering toward Hyde.
Is it a mini series or will it continue indefinitely?
Nolan and Joy have reportedly mapped out the story lines for about six seasons. Obviously, that could be truncated if viewer interest and budgets dry up.
I doubt that the big names (esp. Hopkins and Harris) are locked up contractually for anywhere near that long. It probably doesn't matter that much. Disposability of individual characters is built into the premise. There's an interesting contrast with Game of Thrones, where killing off major characters - Robert, Viserys, Ned, Drogo, Renly, Robb, Catelyn, Joffrey, Tywin, Ygritte, Oberyn, Stannis, Jon (temporarily) Roose, Ramsay, Margaery, the High Sparrow, etc., etc. is half the fun. In Westworld, death is the "reset" button on a plot loop. EW's report on the long-term plan for Westworld - ( New Window )
Is it a mini series or will it continue indefinitely?
Nolan and Joy have reportedly mapped out the story lines for about six seasons. Obviously, that could be truncated if viewer interest and budgets dry up.
I doubt that the big names (esp. Hopkins and Harris) are locked up contractually for anywhere near that long. It probably doesn't matter that much. Disposability of individual characters is built into the premise. There's an interesting contrast with Game of Thrones, where killing off major characters - Robert, Viserys, Ned, Drogo, Renly, Robb, Catelyn, Joffrey, Tywin, Ygritte, Oberyn, Stannis, Jon (temporarily) Roose, Ramsay, Margaery, the High Sparrow, etc., etc. is half the fun. In Westworld, death is the "reset" button on a plot loop. EW's report on the long-term plan for Westworld - ( New Window )
I disagree that Hopkins, and to a lesser extent Harris are disposable, unless they are going in some direction that I am not expecting.
Those two characters are driving the story.
5-6 seasons is a long time for what looks to me like limited possibilities in story lines. It will be fun to see where they go with it.
Is it a mini series or will it continue indefinitely?
Nolan and Joy have reportedly mapped out the story lines for about six seasons. Obviously, that could be truncated if viewer interest and budgets dry up.
I doubt that the big names (esp. Hopkins and Harris) are locked up contractually for anywhere near that long. It probably doesn't matter that much. Disposability of individual characters is built into the premise. There's an interesting contrast with Game of Thrones, where killing off major characters - Robert, Viserys, Ned, Drogo, Renly, Robb, Catelyn, Joffrey, Tywin, Ygritte, Oberyn, Stannis, Jon (temporarily) Roose, Ramsay, Margaery, the High Sparrow, etc., etc. is half the fun. In Westworld, death is the "reset" button on a plot loop. EW's report on the long-term plan for Westworld - ( New Window )
I disagree that Hopkins, and to a lesser extent Harris are disposable, unless they are going in some direction that I am not expecting.
Those two characters are driving the story.
5-6 seasons is a long time for what looks to me like limited possibilities in story lines. It will be fun to see where they go with it.
Ron; In the original movie Westworld was just one of the themes in the parks owned by the Delos corp. I personally think there is enough to carry the Westworld story line for 2 -3 seasons or more, but there is also more subject matter to pull from
I have seen all of the episodes and I plan to stick with it through season 1 but I am not loving the show. Some interesting subplots and I loved the interaction with Anthony Hopkins at the lunch and his threat but it needs to pick up. Just my opinion.
I have seen all of the episodes and I plan to stick with it through season 1 but I am not loving the show. Some interesting subplots and I loved the interaction with Anthony Hopkins at the lunch and his threat but it needs to pick up. Just my opinion.
I think this week going forward it will start to get nuts. I have faith
Ron Mexico: With a good enough premise, all characters are expendable.
I disagree that Hopkins, and to a lesser extent Harris are disposable, unless they are going in some direction that I am not expecting.
Those two characters are driving the story.
Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister were the original Twin Towers in Game of Thrones. (Honorable mention to Cersei, but Lena Headey was always overshadowed when Dad was in town.) Sean Bean and Charles Dance were also the biggest names on the show. Both are long gone. Westeros endures.
In an earlier episode when Ed Harris is getting shot at from a robot nothing happens at all yet a couple of episodes later when William gets shot it hits him and leaves a mark which his friend explains that it wouldn't be much fun if they could at least shoot back.
In an earlier episode when Ed Harris is getting shot at from a robot nothing happens at all yet a couple of episodes later when William gets shot it hits him and leaves a mark which his friend explains that it wouldn't be much fun if they could at least shoot back.
That inconsistency has been cited as evidence that the show includes narratives from different periods in the park's history (i.e., the technology has improved since William's first visit so guests aren't injured). That theory seems to have been debunked - at least with regard to William and the Man in Black, because park employees talk about both of them in the same conversation. So maybe a simpler explanation is that the MiB has been "shot" so many times over the years that he no longer notices the sting. Or maybe he wears a protective vest. Or maybe you're correct and it's just a flub.
In an earlier episode when Ed Harris is getting shot at from a robot nothing happens at all yet a couple of episodes later when William gets shot it hits him and leaves a mark which his friend explains that it wouldn't be much fun if they could at least shoot back.
That inconsistency has been cited as evidence that the show includes narratives from different periods in the park's history (i.e., the technology has improved since William's first visit so guests aren't injured). That theory seems to have been debunked - at least with regard to William and the Man in Black, because park employees talk about both of them in the same conversation. So maybe a simpler explanation is that the MiB has been "shot" so many times over the years that he no longer notices the sting. Or maybe he wears a protective vest. Or maybe you're correct and it's just a flub.
after waiting a year and a half for it, and then having to wait a couple weeks since I got busy.
Man this show has delivered. The depth and layers to the story (the Park, the visitors, the AI, the investment driven company and the employees, and lastly the locale) are incredible.
I have some theories, some listed on here already, but I'm most curious about Arnold's last name which was specifically not told. If you deconstruct Bernard Lowe you get Arnold Weber, for example. Would be really cool to see Bernard as Ford's greatest creation.
As for the inconsistencies in the storytelling, I don't think they are at all. There's a reason the man in black didn't feel anything when shot, definitely not some story oversight.
Easily my favorite show of the year just 4 episodes in, and could go down as one of the best seasons of TV ever if it ends like it started.
The cinematography is fantastic, and I like how the back story is playing out over time.
Based on previews it looks like we'll see Hopkins and Harris together in the next episode.
One thing that puzzles me -- if Thandie Newton got shot with a slug, wouldn't that mean the hosts are using some kind of projectile that could injure a guest?
The cinematography is fantastic, and I like how the back story is playing out over time.
Based on previews it looks like we'll see Hopkins and Harris together in the next episode.
One thing that puzzles me -- if Thandie Newton got shot with a slug, wouldn't that mean the hosts are using some kind of projectile that could injure a guest?
Hosts can kill other hosts and quests can kill hosts, so I wa sunder the impression all the bullets were real. They just happen to not penetrate a guest if shot by a host. I don't think their weapons are different.
The cinematography is fantastic, and I like how the back story is playing out over time.
Based on previews it looks like we'll see Hopkins and Harris together in the next episode.
One thing that puzzles me -- if Thandie Newton got shot with a slug, wouldn't that mean the hosts are using some kind of projectile that could injure a guest?
Hosts can kill other hosts and quests can kill hosts, so I wa sunder the impression all the bullets were real. They just happen to not penetrate a guest if shot by a host. I don't think their weapons are different.
Thanks -- I guess these are supposed to be smart bullets? I had thought the bullet sent some type of electronic signal that triggered bleeding in the host, but that's clearly not the case.
- Bernard. Another popular theory picking up steam is that Bernard might actually be a robot/host, created by Dr. Ford. Ford knows a lot about Bernard, the same way he might know about another host's story. I'm not sure I am completely on board with this one either, but, I absolutely believe that at least one of the characters we think is human will turn out to be a creation of Ford's.
- We saw Dr. Ford getting a church back together a couple weeks back, and now last night we saw Dolores having intense flashbacks to a church scene. Is this where Arnold died in the park?
I guess we confirmed the man in black is a human this episode?
But then how can he morph into the no name villains in the barn with Delores?
I guess we confirmed the man in black is a human this episode?
But then how can he morph into the no name villains in the barn with Delores?
I thought we confirmed the Man in Black being a human that in Episode 1? Not to mention, the Delos employees have mentioned him being a visitor and allowed to do whatever he wants before last night's episode.
He didn't morph - I'm pretty certain that was Dolores imagining/picturing him, using a memory to overpower her programming that was preventing her from pulling the trigger before.
Delos - ( New Window )
I like the Delores narrative graphic
Flowchart of Dolores's 'day'. - ( New Window )
But why would they have a branch that is Teddy saving delores from a guest?
But why would they have a branch that is Teddy saving delores from a guest?
Teddy is an accomplished gunslinger, not some lovesick cowpoke. An 'amateur' guest wouldn't get the best of him, and should be relieved just to survive the encounter - which can be as big an adrenaline rush as winning. The Man in Black has no trouble dispatching Teddy now, after years of facing him. I doubt their first meeting ended that way.
We got more clues about Ed Harris's identity this week, particularly that his Institute funded another guest's research, and that the topic is off-limits in the park.
Dr. Ford sure scared the crap out of Theresa at lunch...
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
Along that line, didn't Dr Ford say Arnold wanted the hosts to evolve, to be able to think, become self aware, where he was afraid of that happening?
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
On leaving the slugl: There's pressure on Maintenance to get the hosts fixed and back up top as soon as possible. Fords plans/narrative is causing havoc on the other narratives and they need to keep as many host working as possible. Therefore Maintenance is just sloppy... One thing that says a lot about the attitude toward the host is that the Delos diagram which shows the levels of the complex in the mesa has the repair area named: Livestock Management
The execution of that concept, though, was a little puzzling. Why did Maintenance leave the slug, or whatever it was, in her abdomen? Do all the hosts have those things pre-embedded to simulate wounds when they are "shot"? And how did Maeve figure out that it was there? With no scar, the logical inference would seem to be no "bullet" either. By cranking up Maeve's acuity, did the staff give her too much insight? And is her aggression still dangerously elevated, even after being reduced a notch?
Agree with Tony -
In Maeve's vision you can hear the doctor saying he had one more bullet to remove, but someone is pressuring him to "hurry it up and patch her up" because she was needed ASAP back in WestWorld.
Those technicians have no reason to think that 1) Maeve would remember being shot; 2) actually take the action to opening herself up and looking for a bullet
Dr. Ford sure scared the crap out of Theresa at lunch...
Am I the only one who expected him to start calling her Clarice during that lunch? Definitely had a Dr. Hannibal Lecter feel to that scene :).
In Maeve's vision you can hear the doctor saying he had one more bullet to remove, but someone is pressuring him to "hurry it up and patch her up" because she was needed ASAP back in WestWorld.
Excellent catch, and 100% correct. Thanks. I was dozing a bit during that earlier scene.
Thandie Newton is going to be a handful when Hell breaks loose. Looking forward to that.
When in doubt, he goes big, and it usually works for him. He's not always Dr. Creepy McLiverburger, of course. Quite often, he's Mr. Neville O'Nebbishface (Shadowlands, Remains of the Day, Howard's End, 84 Charing Cross Road, etc.). Dr. Ford has some Jekyll in him too, but he's definitely veering toward Hyde.
It's an HBO series like Game of Thrones. It will run as long as it is popular and the initial ratings and reviews have been very good.
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Is it a mini series or will it continue indefinitely?
It's an HBO series like Game of Thrones. It will run as long as it is popular and the initial ratings and reviews have been very good.
I've read that the show is plotted out for 5 seasons
Nolan and Joy have reportedly mapped out the story lines for about six seasons. Obviously, that could be truncated if viewer interest and budgets dry up.
I doubt that the big names (esp. Hopkins and Harris) are locked up contractually for anywhere near that long. It probably doesn't matter that much. Disposability of individual characters is built into the premise. There's an interesting contrast with Game of Thrones, where killing off major characters - Robert, Viserys, Ned, Drogo, Renly, Robb, Catelyn, Joffrey, Tywin, Ygritte, Oberyn, Stannis, Jon (temporarily) Roose, Ramsay, Margaery, the High Sparrow, etc., etc. is half the fun. In Westworld, death is the "reset" button on a plot loop.
EW's report on the long-term plan for Westworld - ( New Window )
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Is it a mini series or will it continue indefinitely?
Nolan and Joy have reportedly mapped out the story lines for about six seasons. Obviously, that could be truncated if viewer interest and budgets dry up.
I doubt that the big names (esp. Hopkins and Harris) are locked up contractually for anywhere near that long. It probably doesn't matter that much. Disposability of individual characters is built into the premise. There's an interesting contrast with Game of Thrones, where killing off major characters - Robert, Viserys, Ned, Drogo, Renly, Robb, Catelyn, Joffrey, Tywin, Ygritte, Oberyn, Stannis, Jon (temporarily) Roose, Ramsay, Margaery, the High Sparrow, etc., etc. is half the fun. In Westworld, death is the "reset" button on a plot loop. EW's report on the long-term plan for Westworld - ( New Window )
I disagree that Hopkins, and to a lesser extent Harris are disposable, unless they are going in some direction that I am not expecting.
Those two characters are driving the story.
5-6 seasons is a long time for what looks to me like limited possibilities in story lines. It will be fun to see where they go with it.
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Is it a mini series or will it continue indefinitely?
Nolan and Joy have reportedly mapped out the story lines for about six seasons. Obviously, that could be truncated if viewer interest and budgets dry up.
I doubt that the big names (esp. Hopkins and Harris) are locked up contractually for anywhere near that long. It probably doesn't matter that much. Disposability of individual characters is built into the premise. There's an interesting contrast with Game of Thrones, where killing off major characters - Robert, Viserys, Ned, Drogo, Renly, Robb, Catelyn, Joffrey, Tywin, Ygritte, Oberyn, Stannis, Jon (temporarily) Roose, Ramsay, Margaery, the High Sparrow, etc., etc. is half the fun. In Westworld, death is the "reset" button on a plot loop. EW's report on the long-term plan for Westworld - ( New Window )
I disagree that Hopkins, and to a lesser extent Harris are disposable, unless they are going in some direction that I am not expecting.
Those two characters are driving the story.
5-6 seasons is a long time for what looks to me like limited possibilities in story lines. It will be fun to see where they go with it.
Ron; In the original movie Westworld was just one of the themes in the parks owned by the Delos corp. I personally think there is enough to carry the Westworld story line for 2 -3 seasons or more, but there is also more subject matter to pull from
I think this week going forward it will start to get nuts. I have faith
Those two characters are driving the story.
Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister were the original Twin Towers in Game of Thrones. (Honorable mention to Cersei, but Lena Headey was always overshadowed when Dad was in town.) Sean Bean and Charles Dance were also the biggest names on the show. Both are long gone. Westeros endures.
That inconsistency has been cited as evidence that the show includes narratives from different periods in the park's history (i.e., the technology has improved since William's first visit so guests aren't injured). That theory seems to have been debunked - at least with regard to William and the Man in Black, because park employees talk about both of them in the same conversation. So maybe a simpler explanation is that the MiB has been "shot" so many times over the years that he no longer notices the sting. Or maybe he wears a protective vest. Or maybe you're correct and it's just a flub.
That inconsistency has been cited as evidence that the show includes narratives from different periods in the park's history (i.e., the technology has improved since William's first visit so guests aren't injured). That theory seems to have been debunked - at least with regard to William and the Man in Black, because park employees talk about both of them in the same conversation. So maybe a simpler explanation is that the MiB has been "shot" so many times over the years that he no longer notices the sting. Or maybe he wears a protective vest. Or maybe you're correct and it's just a flub.
Man this show has delivered. The depth and layers to the story (the Park, the visitors, the AI, the investment driven company and the employees, and lastly the locale) are incredible.
I have some theories, some listed on here already, but I'm most curious about Arnold's last name which was specifically not told. If you deconstruct Bernard Lowe you get Arnold Weber, for example. Would be really cool to see Bernard as Ford's greatest creation.
As for the inconsistencies in the storytelling, I don't think they are at all. There's a reason the man in black didn't feel anything when shot, definitely not some story oversight.
Easily my favorite show of the year just 4 episodes in, and could go down as one of the best seasons of TV ever if it ends like it started.
Based on previews it looks like we'll see Hopkins and Harris together in the next episode.
One thing that puzzles me -- if Thandie Newton got shot with a slug, wouldn't that mean the hosts are using some kind of projectile that could injure a guest?
Based on previews it looks like we'll see Hopkins and Harris together in the next episode.
One thing that puzzles me -- if Thandie Newton got shot with a slug, wouldn't that mean the hosts are using some kind of projectile that could injure a guest?
Hosts can kill other hosts and quests can kill hosts, so I wa sunder the impression all the bullets were real. They just happen to not penetrate a guest if shot by a host. I don't think their weapons are different.
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The cinematography is fantastic, and I like how the back story is playing out over time.
Based on previews it looks like we'll see Hopkins and Harris together in the next episode.
One thing that puzzles me -- if Thandie Newton got shot with a slug, wouldn't that mean the hosts are using some kind of projectile that could injure a guest?
Hosts can kill other hosts and quests can kill hosts, so I wa sunder the impression all the bullets were real. They just happen to not penetrate a guest if shot by a host. I don't think their weapons are different.
Thanks -- I guess these are supposed to be smart bullets? I had thought the bullet sent some type of electronic signal that triggered bleeding in the host, but that's clearly not the case.