When Newhouse returns from his calf injury, should he be inserted back into the starting lineup, or do the Giants stay with Bobby Hart? Hart has held his own in pass protection.. You have to assume he'll only get better with more playing time, where we have already seen the best we'll get out of Newhouse. Still interesting that Will Beatty hasn't figured into the mix, maybe he's still workiing himself into playing shape. If nothing else, Hart was definitely an excellent 7th round pick, by far the best for the Giants since Bradshaw in 2007.
No, it isn't. I think Hart is actually better run blocking than pass pro and he is better at pass protection than Newhouse...How many times did you see Newhouse downfield blocking in a run? Hart gets to the next level often. (Of course we haven't seen any runs of note in the last three weeks.)
Well based on the fact that Beatty has not even sniffed the field..I would assume he has shown only that he can't compete yet. Hart is only 22 years old, Newhouse is 28. I'd stick with the young guy and let him get better. Almost every player in the NFL was a "backup" at one time or another
As posted in another thread, Hart was a 4 year starter at FSU - he started midway through his freshman year at 17 years old. He played LT and moved to RT. Try knowing facts before you post.
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the young kid wasn't even a starter in college, drops to Round 7 and he's already thrown in a Guard as a rookie and OT in his second year. It's amazing we have to even ask this question yet it's real b/c both Newhouse is such a question there is no depth.
As posted in another thread, Hart was a 4 year starter at FSU - he started midway through his freshman year at 17 years old. He played LT and moved to RT. Try knowing facts before you post.
And protected Jameis Winston in the process...
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the young kid wasn't even a starter in college, drops to Round 7 and he's already thrown in a Guard as a rookie and OT in his second year. It's amazing we have to even ask this question yet it's real b/c both Newhouse is such a question there is no depth.
As posted in another thread, Hart was a 4 year starter at FSU - he started midway through his freshman year at 17 years old. He played LT and moved to RT. Try knowing facts before you post.
And protected Jameis Winston in the process...
Irving and Jackson went early. Why didn't Hart? I like the kid a lot but he dropped to the 7th for a reason. He might be a starter here for a long while but there no reason a rookie and 2nd year player drafted that late should be forced into the starting lineup b/c there is basically no competiton. It's not fair to Manning either
Round 7 - fact. Why not earlier? Want to ignore that too?
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Where do folks come up with their facts sometimes?
Round 7 - fact. Why not earlier? Want to ignore that too?
Nope, I don't think Hart is a very good player...obviously a lot of folks around the league thought so, too. I just knew he was a starter and didn't feel the need to present flawed opinion as fact.
Are Hart and Newhouse good? No. Will Newhouse's return help? Maybe a little bit in the near term. If there's any real upside on the roster, it's related to either Hart improving with experience or Will Beatty returning to form. Although I doubt the staff sees Beatty as part of the answer, the bye gives them an opportunity to work him in. Of course, he may be glued to the bench because, after two years off the field, he's now even worse than the guys in front of him.
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Where do folks come up with their facts sometimes?
Round 7 - fact. Why not earlier? Want to ignore that too?
Nope, I don't think Hart is a very good player...obviously a lot of folks around the league thought so, too. I just knew he was a starter and didn't feel the need to present flawed opinion as fact.
I think he has the potential to be a good player. I just know he was pulled off the field often at Fla State. I blame it on his youth. He was usually the youngest kid out there. He's been forced into a starting role here IMO. How many 7th Round linemen get any playing time during their rookie seasons let alone start a game? The kid is thrust into a starting job b/c there are literally no backups. Comically, some will still stand by they didn't ignore the OL. They can't even field five competent starters let alone have any backups.
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Where do folks come up with their facts sometimes?
Round 7 - fact. Why not earlier? Want to ignore that too?
It is about 7 weeks since Beatty came on board. If the Giants intended on inserting him into the starting line-up I think that they would have done it by now. I can't imagine that they are going to screw with Flowers by moving him to the right side in favor of Beatty on the left side.
Flowers is staying put. I'd bet that Hart is going to continue to start after Newhouse is healthy as well.
It is what it is, for the time being at least.
The kid is motivated and seems to have some talent. I think he'll keep improving, so I'd keep him as the starter.
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No, it isn't. I think Hart is actually better run blocking than pass pro and he is better at pass protection than Newhouse...How many times did you see Newhouse downfield blocking in a run? Hart gets to the next level often. (Of course we haven't seen any runs of note in the last three weeks.)
Actually, we haven't seen many runs of note in the last four weeks. I think both of our tackles(including tight ends), have been the week link in regards to run blocking.
Flowers won't be replaced at LT this year unless he or someone else gets hurt forcing a reshuffle of the line.
Jay Ratliff of the Cowgirls was a 7th rounder but went to 4 straight pro bowls.
Troy Brown was an 8th rounder
Jesse Sapolu was an 11th rounder for heavens sake.
My thing is that players fall through the cracks and scouts miss out on these players. Hart is doing fine right now. I would stick with him.
Are Hart and Newhouse good? No. Will Newhouse's return help? Maybe a little bit in the near term. If there's any real upside on the roster, it's related to either Hart improving with experience or Will Beatty returning to form. Although I doubt the staff sees Beatty as part of the answer, the bye gives them an opportunity to work him in. Of course, he may be glued to the bench because, after two years off the field, he's now even worse than the guys in front of him.
The GB OL is very good, especially in pass protection.