49ers put Joe Staley on the trading block.

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to confirm a trade?

I doubt anyone offers a first with Thomas on the market too.

Ageing players in this league don't carry value...Staley has a lot of tread on them there tyres.

I hear from area junk on this...

2nd, or 3rd but if they would take a 4th and conditional 6th the following year I would do it.

He'd come cheaper than Thomas, and you'd think the transition would be smooth since Solari was his coach for years in SF.

Just wondering BBI's opinions on Nassib and his value. His value may have taken a hit this year because he didn't look great in preseason. But would he even bring any sort of relative value in a midseason trade?

I don't think anyone's giving up a 1st or 2nd for either of those two guys, older and expenisve.

but I'd rather a 3rd for him than a 2nd for Thomas.

You pick up the phone, and tell both SF and CLE that you're willing to pay a 3rd to the first taker. Hopefully the leverage gets someone to say yes sooner than later.

I'll be honest - if we're looking at deals, I'm more interested in trying to find a legit TE and/or a fullback than trying to solve LT, where I still believe Flowers will be a viable option after he's had a bit more time in the system.

that San Fran is looking for a first from contenders which translates to a low first round pick. This story came out after the Thomas trade bait story. Obviously, San Fran would gladly accept a second from anyone. With the trade deadline approaching, what any of the two teams will yield diminishes with each passing day.

Being that we are not contenders, but would benefit from shoring up the OL, Reese should toss out 4th rounders on either with the pick being upgraded if conditions are met (health maintained and playoff qualifiers).

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I still wouldn't give them a first given Davis's lack of dedication to football (or at least what that seems to be). Firsts are way too valuable. I'd give them 3rd straight up which I'd doubt they will take.

In comment 13188905 GuzzaBlue said:

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Just wondering BBI's opinions on Nassib and his value. His value may have taken a hit this year because he didn't look great in preseason. But would he even bring any sort of relative value in a midseason trade?

Nobody wants Nassib and we wouldn't get a future 7th rounder for him.

I would take $15,000 for it in a second if someone is dumb enough to give it to me. I am sure the 49ers would love a 1st chances of them getting it is as good as me getting $15k. Staley no way more than a 3rd would I give up.

In comment 13188935 Chris in Philly said:

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In comment 13188905 GuzzaBlue said: Quote: Just wondering BBI's opinions on Nassib and his value. His value may have taken a hit this year because he didn't look great in preseason. But would he even bring any sort of relative value in a midseason trade? Nobody wants Nassib and we wouldn't get a future 7th rounder for him.

I feel about the same, however not even a 7th? I think you could find a team to give up a 7th for him either because of stupidity or desperation.

may as well trade it.. Right now OO has been a net negative.. we would have been better off with scrub over him.. better yet.. Offer them a 4th and if they want a 3rd then they have to take donnell off our hands..

$8.25MM in salary, plus $700K in roster and workout bonuses. That contract sets his trade value pretty low, except maybe to a team that is clearly a LT away from strong Super Bowl contention.

He would "only" make about $5.5MM in each of the following two years, but that's still a lot for a player who will be 34/35. Offensive linemen who remain upper-tier much past 30 seem to be getting rarer.

In comment 13188965 chuckydee9 said:

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may as well trade it.. Right now OO has been a net negative.. we would have been better off with scrub over him.. better yet.. Offer them a 4th and if they want a 3rd then they have to take donnell off our hands..

Dorian Thompson has something to say about this. If he can stay on the field at least.

In comment 13188881 Big Blue '56 said:

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Whoops 32, saw his bday Aug 30th and got mixed up.

snap out of it guys

Let's put Larry Donnell on the block for a first round pick. We do a one-for-one, and picks offset.

I like this game!

with the hole plugging and overspending and fire Reese, or give him a year to fix the oline. Use draft to do it.

In comment 13188989 mdc1 said:

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with the hole plugging and overspending and fire Reese, or give him a year to fix the oline. Use draft to do it.

Hi Mr Mara,

Why haven't you allowed JR to spend high picks on OL?

Regards,
Fan thats been stuck in 2013..

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In comment 13188989 mdc1 said: Quote: with the hole plugging and overspending and fire Reese, or give him a year to fix the oline. Use draft to do it. Hi Mr Mara, Why haven't you allowed JR to spend high picks on OL? Regards, Fan thats been stuck in 2013..

Being stuck in 2013 might be the only way to explain it.

In comment 13188968 Big Blue Blogger said:

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$8.25MM in salary, plus $700K in roster and workout bonuses. That contract sets his trade value pretty low, except maybe to a team that is clearly a LT away from strong Super Bowl contention. He would "only" make about $5.5MM in each of the following two years, but that's still a lot for a player who will be 34/35. Offensive linemen who remain upper-tier much past 30 seem to be getting rarer.

The flip side (from a cap perspective) is that you can cut the player with (usually) no dead money. So if his play falls off a cliff, they're not on the hook for any bonus money.

wouldn't give more than a fourth. Not as good as Thomas, and also 32. Any player we trade for also doesn't know the offense. Chemistry is especially important for an OL. We have Beatty and Flowers, even if the latter has to move to the right side. I think we'll just roll with what we've got.

Nassib might get a conditional seventh, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if there's no interest in him. The Giants picked up Johnson right at the end of the preseason, which was frankly a damning indictment of Nassib. That certainly lowers whatever minimal trade value he had. He'll get some vet minimum offers in the offseason with a few incentives, but I don't think he has any trade value.

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Let's put Larry Donnell on the block for a first round pick. We do a one-for-one, and picks offset.

I like this game!

Larry is worth more than a first rounder....should also toss in a player to be named later....

I would think the Giants would be interested. Do you really think they want to bring in a newcomer and move Flowers to RT halfway through the season? I don't see it happening.

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In comment 13188968 Big Blue Blogger said: Quote: $8.25MM in salary, plus $700K in roster and workout bonuses. That contract sets his trade value pretty low, except maybe to a team that is clearly a LT away from strong Super Bowl contention. He would "only" make about $5.5MM in each of the following two years, but that's still a lot for a player who will be 34/35. Offensive linemen who remain upper-tier much past 30 seem to be getting rarer. The flip side (from a cap perspective) is that you can cut the player with (usually) no dead money. So if his play falls off a cliff, they're not on the hook for any bonus money.

And presumably the cost controlled 22/23 year old that wouldn't be on the team.

Its a huge risk. If he was a few years younger I'd be all over it but we just got over handing out big contracts to aging players, not sure why we'd go back on that unless the price falls significantly.

A second perhaps.

I wouldn't do it for a 1st, but a 2nd or 3rd is a no brainer for me. I understand many here say "we are not one player away" but we are 4-3 and a top tier LT can make the difference in a win or 2 down the stretch and possibly a playoff spot. You all have seen twice what getting into the playoffs hot at 9-7/10-6 can lead to. You give Eli a clean pocket and he can still be elite. Wit the D getting healthier its worth it to me.

if Staley is still good/good enough to give Eli more time in the pocket and help him gain confidence behind his line, and the OL improve in the run game, for the next 2 years or more I'm all for it.
I know itd smack against Reeses(and EFs ) ego and pride, but a better functioning offense and Apple/D Thompson likely back for the D, this is a good team.
If Im Reese Im on the phone to both Cl and SF, start with an offer a pick down with a conditional '18 pick and let THEM fight it out to see who bites.
If both fall through use Beatty some; if one bites then they can start working EF for RT.
All that said, we know JR won't do it.

That's the only way the trade would be made in season because Stanley isn't getting a RT tryout and neither is Flowers.

returns a #1 or #2 pick, given their respective ages and contracts/cap hits.

So, it is hard to give up a second for either Thomas or Staley.

Of course, the past should not influence what you do in the present. But in reality it does.

If Reese trades a second for either guy and Giants fall flat, he will be crucified. Could be the straw that loses him his job, in fact.

After that it's 50-50 anyway.

yeah?

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So, it is hard to give up a second for either Thomas or Staley. Of course, the past should not influence what you do in the present. But in reality it does. If Reese trades a second for either guy and Giants fall flat, he will be crucified. Could be the straw that loses him his job, in fact.

Okung is a "cripple" and Penn was headed to NY to meet with us, but the Raiders, whom he wanted to stay with, signed him before he got on the plane..So how is that again?

Oh yes Reese has been a wiz at picks after the second round.

In comment 13189672 XBRONX said:

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Oh yes Reese has been a wiz at picks after the second round.

Pump your brakes tough guy. Last three 2nds were Shepard, Landon and Richburg....all starters.

Balki is holding things up but Davis deal to be announced shortly....

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If you offered the Niners a 3rd plus Nassib for Staley they would probably counter with a 4th as long as we kept Nassib.

Staley for a first and that's it. If this rumor is even true.

It's like selling a car you don't really have to sell but will gladly part with it at the right (over) price.

They didn't even give away Anthony Davis, who is nothing compared to Staley.

I don't agree with it. Staley is still a top 5 LT in this league. Run block, pass block and even has a few receptions to his name.

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Getting Balky's approval