NFT: Fantasy Football Thread for 10/25

who's available. You can stream week to week. But I think Carolina bounces back, too many good players not to.

I'd stream defenses from here on out. There's always good matchups on the waiver wire week to week.

down 13 against Denver D still having Anderson and Booker. Glad I made that decision, they got me 31 points. They have a good schedule coming up and they look like they will try and run 30+ times per game. I'll probably stick with the duo for the next few weeks.

Literally every RB I own is either now injured or irrelevant, and there are scraps left on the wire. Who would you target on the wire in PPR for the next few weeks?

KaDeem Carey CHI
Rob Kelley WAS
Perkins NYG

Ingram for Allen Robinson.

Team before trade
Wilson
bell, howard, Ingram, Crowell
J Mathews, Tate, Eifert, davante Parker

Non ppr. Only bad thing I think is Bell on a bye this week.

P.s what do you think the current record of the team is?

for my Andy Dalton. Should I do it?

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Ingram for Allen Robinson. Team before trade Wilson bell, howard, Ingram, Crowell J Mathews, Tate, Eifert, davante Parker Non ppr. Only bad thing I think is Bell on a bye this week. P.s what do you think the current record of the team is?

1-6

but Thompson got most of the touches against Detroit. Don't know the other two backs.

In comment 13190011 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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for my Andy Dalton. Should I do it?

I would keep Dalton.

he does not get enough work to count on him.

In comment 13190022 wgenesis123 said:

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he does not get enough work to count on him.

He might not now, but it's much easier to get him for free now then it is after he takes a bigger role and starts producing (if he ever does of course).

no point in picking up Perkins this week. I'm considering adding him next week though I wouldn't waste any of your FAAB on him or a valuable waiver position.

In comment 13190012 YAJ2112 said:

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In comment 13190010 Fish said: Quote: Ingram for Allen Robinson. Team before trade Wilson bell, howard, Ingram, Crowell J Mathews, Tate, Eifert, davante Parker Non ppr. Only bad thing I think is Bell on a bye this week. P.s what do you think the current record of the team is? 1-6

Haha, that team doesn't even look good on paper unless its a standard 14 team league. Especially considering Bell missed 3 weeks.

(of my two), the keeper league team isn't very good, and that's fine, I'm building for 2017.

My good team, while only 4 -3 , has a 50 point lead in total points, and we have a regular season prize for total point leader (money back), and I should make the playoffs, so I'm focusing on that team mostly.

Only real weakness is RB (non-PPR).

QB: Brees/Carr
RB: McCoy, D. Murray, Ajayi, Gillislee, A. Foster (will be dropped)
WR: Hilton, M. Jones, A. Robinson, Dez, T. Montgomery
TE: Graham
D/ST: Seattle
K: Vinatieri

I need to drop A. Foster and pick up a RB. Best waiver options are:

Booker
Jennings
Dion Lewis
Forsett
Thompson
Carey
P. barber
A. Blue


Which RB would you pick up? I like Booker, but I feel like Lewis is a hate to use the cliche "lottery ticket" type back if he comes back and knocks James White from the lineup. But, word is now that Lewis may not even come back from PUP and this league has small benches.

with McCoy/Murray?

I'd go Booker. Don't see the Giants running game improving anytime soon, Barber doesn't get to play the 49ers again (and Martin should be back soon, no?), Forsett sucks.

Denver would run 35-40 times per game if they given the chance.

Booker if you need one this week.

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with McCoy/Murray? I'd go Booker. Don't see the Giants running game improving anytime soon, Barber doesn't get to play the 49ers again (and Martin should be back soon, no?), Forsett sucks. Denver would run 35-40 times per game if they given the chance.

It's a weakness because McCoy is now in the GTD mode with his hamstring and probably will remain that way all season. Sunday I started Gillislee and got 2.5 points. With Ajayi on my bench. Between Gillislee and Allen Robinson I was fortunate to pull out a win.

In comment 13190042 pjcas18 said:

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(of my two), the keeper league team isn't very good, and that's fine, I'm building for 2017. My good team, while only 4 -3 , has a 50 point lead in total points, and we have a regular season prize for total point leader (money back), and I should make the playoffs, so I'm focusing on that team mostly. Only real weakness is RB (non-PPR). QB: Brees/Carr RB: McCoy, D. Murray, Ajayi, Gillislee, A. Foster (will be dropped) WR: Hilton, M. Jones, A. Robinson, Dez, T. Montgomery TE: Graham D/ST: Seattle K: Vinatieri I need to drop A. Foster and pick up a RB. Best waiver options are: Booker Jennings Dion Lewis Forsett Thompson Carey P. barber A. Blue Which RB would you pick up? I like Booker, but I feel like Lewis is a hate to use the cliche "lottery ticket" type back if he comes back and knocks James White from the lineup. But, word is now that Lewis may not even come back from PUP and this league has small benches.

I'd pick up Booker.

In comment 13190001 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:

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Literally every RB I own is either now injured or irrelevant, and there are scraps left on the wire. Who would you target on the wire in PPR for the next few weeks? KaDeem Carey CHI Rob Kelley WAS Perkins NYG

I've been touting Carey for a couple weeks. Howard doesn't really do it for me, Carey is flat out playing better and they trust him the most, IMO. I'll probably put in a claim for him this week as I couldn't fit him on my roster last week.

Reports are Baltimore wanting to give Dixon more touches. He's a potential late season lottery ticket. It was against the Jets front 7 but West had a putrid game. Could be perfect timing to grab Dixon, i'm glad I held on to him.

and I'm starting him until proven otherwise. Assuming they keep games close or play with the lead, Booker is probably good for 12+ touches and Anderson 15+. If they go up big, it will likely be Booker getting the 4th quarter carries to grind out the game. He's also a good pass catcher.

is going to be hitting the waiver wire again. I picked him up and got 3 good weeks. I sat him last week against the Pack and will either sit him or cut him this week against Minnesota. Then he has the bye. IMO he isn't really in play until week 10, and then maybe week 13. Since I don't expect him to have success, I expect the Chicago backfield picture to get more muddied.

Just stream. Matchup is super important. So is the scoring. It isn't necessarily the best D that you want, it is one that gets turnovers and sacks. You aren't going to see many shutouts or 50 point games and that is the only time points against effects scoring in my league.

If you are dying to have a D to hold, keep an eye on the waiver wire. Somebody else will be streaming and dump a team you like. I started the season drafting the Bills in our last round and then streamed a couple of weeks. Somebody else fell in love with a matchup and I ended up with the Cards. Unfortunately, the Bills have been outplaying the Cards this year, but the Cards make me more comfortable.

I get Dion Lewis, RB, for the Eagles D.

Dion is out for now on the PUP and could return to active status in the next couple weeks. He is also keepable for an 8th round pick next year. The Eagles have been a very productive D for me this year.

What do you think?

Eagles D has been good but you have to think they will waver a bit, and you can also stream their replacement. Eagles next 6 games are against offenses that can score points as well.

The 8th rounder keeper option is an added bonus.

can't even practice yet (physically). I think the Patriots only have two+ more weeks and then need to either activate Lewis off PUP or he stays there all year.

I'd probably do the trade since I don't think the Eagles D/ST return TD's as sustainable, but I don't know Lewis will be back this year and if he's not I don't know how your keepers work, but I'm not so sure he'd be an attractive keeper missing a season and a half.

I really appreciate the feedback. I haven't read anything specific on Dion's current status other than that the Patriots aren't in a hurry to activate him. Blount and White have been playing very well, so they can afford to play it conservatively with Lewis. They can wait until after their week 9 bye to bring him back. Still, he's coming off a serious injury, and like Jamal Charles, could be ineffectual on his return.

In my league, I am allowed to keep 3 players who have keepable status. Currently, I have Spencer Ware, Jerick McKinnon, Stefon Diggs and Andy Dalton who are keepable. Adding Dion would just increase my options, and to keep him, I would only have to sacrifice my 7th round pick. I was mistaken. I lose an earlier pick if he is traded to me.

worst case scenario is he doesn't play and it was a trade that didn't work out. I don't think Eagles defense is good enough to make or break your fantasy season, but that's a question better answered by you (knowing your standings, tendencies of the other managers, etc). In other words, I think there's little downside since you may be dropping the Eagles defense anyway (they play Dallas, New York, Atlanta, Seattle, Green Bay, and Cincy). I'm willing to bet atleast 2-3 of those games you wouldn't want to use them.

To get Freeman and Baldwin for Riddick Edelman and Marshall. I desperately need a RB as I'm starting Crowell and Howard (with Riddick out) but at the same time Marshall is 8th in targets, Fitzpatrick will continue to start with smith out, and he plays Cleveland, Miami twice and SF. Freeman has to play Arizona, GB, philly, and KC.

My current WRs are Evans, Marshall, Crabtree, Dez and Edelman
My current RBs are Crowell, Riddick, Howard, Lewis and yeldon.

Any help would be appreciated. I started 3-0 and now I am 4-3 and I don't want to make any rash decisions.

you helped me to make up my mind. You are right. A few of those upcoming matchups aren't ideal for the Eagles D. I would be looking for alternatives.

I have not had a very good season thus far and am sitting at 2-5. Not looking good to finish in the money this year. Looking to the future is probably the wise move from here on out.

Best of luck to you.

Didn't Coleman leave the game on Sunday due to injury?

They're currently the #2 DST in my league, but they haven't exactly faced offensive juggernauts this season:
CLE
CHI
PIT
DET
WAS
MIN

Outside of the Giants (and BAL), they don't really face any bad offenses the rest of the way (DALx2, ATL, SEA, GB, CIN, WAS). They've also been somewhat lucky with 3 DST TDs (unpredictable) and have recovered a ridiculous 7 out of 8 forced fumbles (average is ~50% recovery rate). For comparisons sake, the Giants have recovered only 1 out of 5 FFs.

would you trade Rivers for Booker straight up?

Someone dropped Rawls, should i use my #2 claim on him and hope he returns as the starter at some point. Its full PPR, Not much available on waivers. Could take a stab at Dixon or Perkins, but both have a bye week and my only playable RB's this week are Duke Johnson and Powell, as I lost Lacy, Jennings is on Bye and Coleman is injured.

In comment 13190220 beatrixkiddo said:

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would you trade Rivers for Booker straight up? Someone dropped Rawls, should i use my #2 claim on him and hope he returns as the starter at some point. Its full PPR, Not much available on waivers. Could take a stab at Dixon or Perkins, but both have a bye week and my only playable RB's this week are Duke Johnson and Powell, as I lost Lacy, Jennings is on Bye and Coleman is injured.

That is rough. Value-wise, I don't do that trade, but your RB situation is pretty rough. UConn and some of these guys seem high on Booker, so I may make a claim on him in my league. Rawls is probably out at least another 2 weeks, so he isn't going to give any help short term.

In comment 13190012 YAJ2112 said:

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In comment 13190010 Fish said: Quote: Ingram for Allen Robinson. Team before trade Wilson bell, howard, Ingram, Crowell J Mathews, Tate, Eifert, davante Parker Non ppr. Only bad thing I think is Bell on a bye this week. P.s what do you think the current record of the team is? 1-6

YUP 1-6. Worst season ever. Nothing worked out as planned.

so many situations are going to continue to arise. Its a position that's constantly injured. Who's you other QB? I don't think valuewise its all that great but Booker is 1 injury away from being a potential top 5 RB, so there's definitely upside. His touches are also pretty damn solid we a weekly FLEX or RB2.

In a full PPR Johnson and Powell isn't all that bad (depend on the rest of your roster of course).

I'd look into Thompson if he's available. Matt Jones continues to fumble and sooner or later they are going to flat out bench him. I'm kicking myself for not picking him up this week.

Trade: Le'Veon Bell and DeAngelo Williams

Receive: Jay Ajayi, Allen Robinson, and Gio Bernard.

The only reason I'm considering it is that I have literally zero RB depth going forward.

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Didn't Coleman leave the game on Sunday due to injury?

Yeah he's gonna be out this week it looks like but they are playing GB.

Anyone have a yay or nay on this? I get Baldwin and Freeman and I give Marshall Riddick and Edelman.

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Trade: Le'Veon Bell and DeAngelo Williams Receive: Jay Ajayi, Allen Robinson, and Gio Bernard. The only reason I'm considering it is that I have literally zero RB depth going forward.

Robinson and the whole Jags passing game is a disaster this year. I'm not sure what they can do to improve it at this point.

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In comment 13190210 MadPlaid said: Quote: Didn't Coleman leave the game on Sunday due to injury? Yeah he's gonna be out this week it looks like but they are playing GB. Anyone have a yay or nay on this? I get Baldwin and Freeman and I give Marshall Riddick and Edelman.

To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it.

otherwise you're trading Marshall and Edelman for Freeman.

If you're desperate for RB and have the WR depth do it, but I probably would not do it.

I'd try and get Edelman out of the trade and get Baldwin out too. I'd do Marshall and Riddick for Freeman and see if he bites.

so there isn't much available.

My other QB is Stafford.

I proposed two trades: Rivers and Davis for Booker and Gillisslee, and Rivers and Davis for Booker and Moncrief. I could cancel one of them, but my WR's have also been underperforming.

My Team: PPR

QB: Stafford/Rivers
WR: Green, Jordy, Maclin, Humphries
RB: Lacy (DONE), Coleman (INJ), Jennings (Bye), Powell, and Duke Johnson
TE: Davis, Fiedorowicz, Reed
K: McManus
DEF. PHI

In comment 13190377 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13190369 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: In comment 13190210 MadPlaid said: Quote: Didn't Coleman leave the game on Sunday due to injury? Yeah he's gonna be out this week it looks like but they are playing GB. Anyone have a yay or nay on this? I get Baldwin and Freeman and I give Marshall Riddick and Edelman. To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it. otherwise you're trading Marshall and Edelman for Freeman. If you're desperate for RB and have the WR depth do it, but I probably would not do it. I'd try and get Edelman out of the trade and get Baldwin out too. I'd do Marshall and Riddick for Freeman and see if he bites.

Really? So are you high on Edelman still? He's been a dud for me. He's getting targets and catches too but very little yards and TDs so I think it's more than just came flow that's hurt him. I'd rather have Baldwin than Edelman. My issue was Marshall's upcoming schedule vs Freeman's upcoming schedule. I think Marshall may outscore Freeman the rest of the way.

In comment 13190386 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13190377 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13190369 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: In comment 13190210 MadPlaid said: Quote: Didn't Coleman leave the game on Sunday due to injury? Yeah he's gonna be out this week it looks like but they are playing GB. Anyone have a yay or nay on this? I get Baldwin and Freeman and I give Marshall Riddick and Edelman. To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it. otherwise you're trading Marshall and Edelman for Freeman. If you're desperate for RB and have the WR depth do it, but I probably would not do it. I'd try and get Edelman out of the trade and get Baldwin out too. I'd do Marshall and Riddick for Freeman and see if he bites. Really? So are you high on Edelman still? He's been a dud for me. He's getting targets and catches too but very little yards and TDs so I think it's more than just came flow that's hurt him. I'd rather have Baldwin than Edelman. My issue was Marshall's upcoming schedule vs Freeman's upcoming schedule. I think Marshall may outscore Freeman the rest of the way.

Like Gronk, Edelman is getting closer to fully healthy. And with Brady fully back to speed I view Edelman as having a high floor (in ppr leagues). Like Jarvis Landry.

Marshall I'm torn on I'd only trade him if you are desperate at RB. If you wanted to swap Edelman and Marshall I would feel the same, propose it with one, but not both.

I think Edelman, Marshall, and Riddick is too much for Freeman.

that's way too much to give up for Freeman. What are your existing RB's? I tend to think people overstate how bad their RB situation is, since many other teams are in the same boat as you are. There's only 1 or 2 teams in my 12 team league that have good options at the 2 RB positions. The other 10 are constantly mixing and matching, myself included.

I have Edelman and Riddick in my Ppr league and I do like the floor. I think if Riddick and Cro can get me 6-7 points a week I can win with my WRs

In comment 13190419 UConn4523 said:

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that's way too much to give up for Freeman. What are your existing RB's? I tend to think people overstate how bad their RB situation is, since many other teams are in the same boat as you are. There's only 1 or 2 teams in my 12 team league that have good options at the 2 RB positions. The other 10 are constantly mixing and matching, myself included.

Cro Riddick Howard and Lewis. Trying to get Chris Thompson. I don't think I'd do the trade.

Trying to figure out if I should drop two of Coates, Powell or Starks (whom I was stashing)... I guess I could drop Doyle too because I have Olsen but I was considering flexing him if Allen is out again because he's getting a lot of targets.

Team is 3-4 so I can't really afford to just waive the white flag on this week.

Ty Montgomery or Booker? And is Knile Davis worth a roster spot?

longterm i'm easily taking Booker over Ty Montgomery. Knile Davis isn't worth much, Starks should be back in a few weeks and it will be a rotation at RB for the Packers. I'd avoid that backfield for the most part until Starks returns.

They're going to keep mixing Montgomery and Cobb into the backfield until Starks is back and Jackson might still get snaps if he's not hurt.

I got a big win this week over 2nd place 5-1 team, beat him 143 - 113. Feels great, sitting in 6th place, in a 4 way tie for 3/4 record wise. On a roll now.

I'll be targeting the following waivers:

1. Big Ben - I'm sure only a waiver in my league, but I'll take injured Ben over Eli with Ryan as my current starter.

2. Devontae Booker - good bench guy in deep leagues and is probably only a CJ Anderson injury away from becoming a RB2 in all formats.

3. Mariota - seems to be a solid fantasy QB as of late to at least keep on your bench

4. Julius Thomas - I think he comes on strong down the stretch.

I only have room for one of the QBs in my list and Booker. I have a decision to make between Thomas and Eifert though. I currently have Doyle and will roll with him as starter for next week, but once Allen comes back I may drop him.

Any gems out there you know of?

I trade Brandon Marshall & Michael Thomas for Andrew Luck.

Some context:

-we play in 0.5 ppr league
-I have WR depth (Julio Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Steve Smith, Ty Montgomery & Corey Coleman in IR)
-my QB is Marcus Mariota

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Ty Montgomery or Booker? And is Knile Davis worth a roster spot?

I'd lean towards Montgomery. I honestly think he will remain starter for the Packers. Lacy will be out awhile and Starks is not much of an option. Montgomery has done well in the 2 weeks he's gotten major playing time and he is a good player for that system.

Booker is great (I have him & Montgomery in my team) but he'll continue to share carries with CJ Anderson. He may have a higher ceiling, but unless Anderson is hurt, he will always be on and off.

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I trade Brandon Marshall & Michael Thomas for Andrew Luck. Some context: -we play in 0.5 ppr league -I have WR depth (Julio Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Steve Smith, Ty Montgomery & Corey Coleman in IR) -my QB is Marcus Mariota

Are you benching one of those guys each week? If so, then do it. Looks like a WR2 + Flex for a QB1. Who are your running backs?

Interesting options at flex in a PPR.

Melvin Gordon @Den (any other opponent and he's RB2)
Allen Robinson @Ten (wtf is with this guy)
Tyler Eifert (too soon?)
Doug Martin (not sure if he even plays)

Rolling with these starters:

RB: Jacquizz Rodgers, Christine Michaels
WR: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper
TE: Jack Doyle
Flex: ???

In comment 13190520 stillpoe said:

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In comment 13190435 Miami_JintsFan said: Quote: Ty Montgomery or Booker? And is Knile Davis worth a roster spot? I'd lean towards Montgomery. I honestly think he will remain starter for the Packers. Lacy will be out awhile and Starks is not much of an option. Montgomery has done well in the 2 weeks he's gotten major playing time and he is a good player for that system. Booker is great (I have him & Montgomery in my team) but he'll continue to share carries with CJ Anderson. He may have a higher ceiling, but unless Anderson is hurt, he will always be on and off.

I have no doubt Starks will be the lead back when healthy, he had a sneaky good 2015 and knows the offense. Likely protects better than the WR's as well. No one knew how Monty would be used either, so it was hard to gameplan for. I'm guessing that will change moving forward.

In comment 13190522 giantgiantfan said:

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In comment 13190511 stillpoe said: Quote: I trade Brandon Marshall & Michael Thomas for Andrew Luck. Some context: -we play in 0.5 ppr league -I have WR depth (Julio Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Steve Smith, Ty Montgomery & Corey Coleman in IR) -my QB is Marcus Mariota Are you benching one of those guys each week? If so, then do it. Looks like a WR2 + Flex for a QB1. Who are your running backs?

My RBs are CJ Anderson, Devontae Booker, Frank Gore and now Montgomery.

And yes, not accounting for bye weeks, I bench at least one of those guys each week with my current depth chart.

In comment 13190535 stillpoe said:

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In comment 13190522 giantgiantfan said: Quote: In comment 13190511 stillpoe said: Quote: I trade Brandon Marshall & Michael Thomas for Andrew Luck. Some context: -we play in 0.5 ppr league -I have WR depth (Julio Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Steve Smith, Ty Montgomery & Corey Coleman in IR) -my QB is Marcus Mariota Are you benching one of those guys each week? If so, then do it. Looks like a WR2 + Flex for a QB1. Who are your running backs? My RBs are CJ Anderson, Devontae Booker, Frank Gore and now Montgomery. And yes, not accounting for bye weeks, I bench at least one of those guys each week with my current depth chart.

Yeah I'd do it, you can probably play waiver wire each week to match one of their productions. And you cannot trust Mariota. Nice bench guy, but he's had weeks where he's scored 4 and 8 points, then weeks where he's exploded. You'll feel more confident with Luck.

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To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it.

Fitz being "pissed off" isn't going to be why Marshall will be better. The competition the Jets will be seeing sucks.

In comment 13190541 giantgiantfan said:

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In comment 13190535 stillpoe said: Quote: In comment 13190522 giantgiantfan said: Quote: In comment 13190511 stillpoe said: Quote: I trade Brandon Marshall & Michael Thomas for Andrew Luck. Some context: -we play in 0.5 ppr league -I have WR depth (Julio Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Steve Smith, Ty Montgomery & Corey Coleman in IR) -my QB is Marcus Mariota Are you benching one of those guys each week? If so, then do it. Looks like a WR2 + Flex for a QB1. Who are your running backs? My RBs are CJ Anderson, Devontae Booker, Frank Gore and now Montgomery. And yes, not accounting for bye weeks, I bench at least one of those guys each week with my current depth chart. Yeah I'd do it, you can probably play waiver wire each week to match one of their productions. And you cannot trust Mariota. Nice bench guy, but he's had weeks where he's scored 4 and 8 points, then weeks where he's exploded. You'll feel more confident with Luck.

I do really like Michael Thomas though, drafted him late, then dropped him immediately. I regret that given that Allen Robinson has been a bust, if I had kept him I'd have a trio of Evans/Cooper/Thomas.

In comment 13190541 giantgiantfan said:

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In comment 13190535 stillpoe said: Quote: In comment 13190522 giantgiantfan said: Quote: In comment 13190511 stillpoe said: Quote: I trade Brandon Marshall & Michael Thomas for Andrew Luck. Some context: -we play in 0.5 ppr league -I have WR depth (Julio Jones, Kelvin Benjamin, Steve Smith, Ty Montgomery & Corey Coleman in IR) -my QB is Marcus Mariota Are you benching one of those guys each week? If so, then do it. Looks like a WR2 + Flex for a QB1. Who are your running backs? My RBs are CJ Anderson, Devontae Booker, Frank Gore and now Montgomery. And yes, not accounting for bye weeks, I bench at least one of those guys each week with my current depth chart. Yeah I'd do it, you can probably play waiver wire each week to match one of their productions. And you cannot trust Mariota. Nice bench guy, but he's had weeks where he's scored 4 and 8 points, then weeks where he's exploded. You'll feel more confident with Luck.

I do like Thomas' potential in that NO offense, but you make a great point about having a reliable QB option (Luck is #2 in our league) and the fact that I do bench one of those guys weekly. Thanks for the feedback!

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In comment 13190377 pjcas18 said: Quote: To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it. Fitz being "pissed off" isn't going to be why Marshall will be better. The competition the Jets will be seeing sucks.

Maybe. Browns and Colts are the only two that stand out as awful pass defenses. Rest seem pretty good.

In comment 13190557 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13190542 VenteSette said: Quote: In comment 13190377 pjcas18 said: Quote: To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it. Fitz being "pissed off" isn't going to be why Marshall will be better. The competition the Jets will be seeing sucks. Maybe. Browns and Colts are the only two that stand out as awful pass defenses. Rest seem pretty good.

They also play the niners, fins twice (who hasn't really been stout against Pitsburgh without big ben for half the game), and Rams (who have only really shutdown Eli and Wilson). Pats have a good D but i'm not gonna bench marshall just cuz of malcolm butler.

QB: Brees
QB: Rivers
WR: Julio
WR: Dez
WR: DeSean Jackson
RB: Ingram
RB: Latavius Murray
TE: Eifert
Flex: Jeremy Hill
Bench: Crowell
Bench: Theo Riddick
Bench: Gillislee
Bench: Flacco
Bench: Devante Parker
Bench: Jack Doyle
Bench: Humphries (took a flier on him, dropping)

I obviously lack much WR depth, half ppr league.

A team that has DeAndre Hopkins and Allen Robinson is trying to trade one for Ingram, which I'm not thrilled about unless he adds something, thoughts?

Also brief discussions about trading Crowell for Moncrief, would you do this?

Thanks!

but if you're ok with that, then Ingram for Hopkins is a good move.

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but if you're ok with that, then Ingram for Hopkins is a good move.

This is where I disagree. His RB's aren't great but you can get away with starting Hill, and Riddick (if healthy) or Crowell, especially if its a PPR, while adding in Gilesse if McCoy is out here and there.

Again, its about perspective. How many other teams are fielding a better rotation of RB's? I'm guessing maybe a few at most, so I'd rather just make my team better which Hopkins would do since Dez is still a ? (even moreso if Romo is out another few weeks) and DeSean is very boom/bust.

In comment 13190586 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13190557 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13190542 VenteSette said: Quote: In comment 13190377 pjcas18 said: Quote: To me Baldwin is useless. Marshall should be better with Fitz back and "pissed off". If Riddick is ever going to get healthy no way I'd do it. Fitz being "pissed off" isn't going to be why Marshall will be better. The competition the Jets will be seeing sucks. Maybe. Browns and Colts are the only two that stand out as awful pass defenses. Rest seem pretty good. They also play the niners, fins twice (who hasn't really been stout against Pitsburgh without big ben for half the game), and Rams (who have only really shutdown Eli and Wilson). Pats have a good D but i'm not gonna bench marshall just cuz of malcolm butler.

49ers are the 8th ranked pass D, Miami 10. The Pats are one of those defenses I feel like gets better as the season goes on (if healthy). I'm not saying bench Marshall in any games, only that I don't see the Jets playing the Saints or Raiders every week. Fitzpatrick playing better will be just as much as reason if their offense is better as their schedule will be. One poster made the comment without looking at their schedule.

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In comment 13190621 giants#1 said: Quote: but if you're ok with that, then Ingram for Hopkins is a good move. This is where I disagree. His RB's aren't great but you can get away with starting Hill, and Riddick (if healthy) or Crowell, especially if its a PPR, while adding in Gilesse if McCoy is out here and there. Again, its about perspective. How many other teams are fielding a better rotation of RB's? I'm guessing maybe a few at most, so I'd rather just make my team better which Hopkins would do since Dez is still a ? (even moreso if Romo is out another few weeks) and DeSean is very boom/bust.

I should of also mentioned. I have James Starks stored away on my IR.

Would you rather do a big trade like that or more a crowell/moncrief swap?

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In comment 13190586 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: 49ers are the 8th ranked pass D, Miami 10. The Pats are one of those defenses I feel like gets better as the season goes on (if healthy). I'm not saying bench Marshall in any games, only that I don't see the Jets playing the Saints or Raiders every week. Fitzpatrick playing better will be just as much as reason if their offense is better as their schedule will be. One poster made the comment without looking at their schedule.

I'm looking at how the defenses faired against WRs. SF is ranked 22nd against WRs in fantasy points, averaging about 11 catches, 150 yards and 2 TDs a game.

Miami ranks 26th against opposing WRs in fantasy. WRs averaged 13 catches, 160 yards and 1.5 TDs against them.

They might not have the most overall passing yards against them, but that's more based on teams not having to pass as much since neither of the 2 teams have been competitive. Considering Fitzpatrick has been targeting BM roughly 1 out of every 4 throws I think he has one of the most favorable outlooks the rest of the way.

depth for depth - Asiata's playoff matchups look great in case of injury (which I have a ton of). Fuller has nice second half but he'll never play with Julio/Landry/Crabtree as my WRs.

In comment 13190711 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13190653 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 13190586 giantsfan44ab said: Quote: 49ers are the 8th ranked pass D, Miami 10. The Pats are one of those defenses I feel like gets better as the season goes on (if healthy). I'm not saying bench Marshall in any games, only that I don't see the Jets playing the Saints or Raiders every week. Fitzpatrick playing better will be just as much as reason if their offense is better as their schedule will be. One poster made the comment without looking at their schedule. I'm looking at how the defenses faired against WRs. SF is ranked 22nd against WRs in fantasy points, averaging about 11 catches, 150 yards and 2 TDs a game. Miami ranks 26th against opposing WRs in fantasy. WRs averaged 13 catches, 160 yards and 1.5 TDs against them. They might not have the most overall passing yards against them, but that's more based on teams not having to pass as much since neither of the 2 teams have been competitive. Considering Fitzpatrick has been targeting BM roughly 1 out of every 4 throws I think he has one of the most favorable outlooks the rest of the way.

I am pretty sure I know the Jets schedule as well as anyone here. I am a freaking Jets fan for the love of God! Funny thing is the Colts have a horrid pass D, but they are #5 against WRs probably because of Vontae Davis. It is a consideration of fantasy - overall D, pass D, which CB covers your guy and if the game will be a shootout or the team will be playing to kill clock.

Davis is a beast. It's like Atlanta I guess. Below average pass D but even #1 WRs can't get the better of trufant. But that's because he shadows. Does Davis shadow as well? I saw Indy is ranked 5th against WRs but I think they allow the most receptions to WRs in the league (I think average of 15).

But I think we are nitpicking at that point. I don't think anyone disagrees with Marshall as a high quality fantasy starter going forward. I can't think of anyone besides Enunwa that takes away targets from Bmarsh. I guess Jalen Marshall?

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Davis is a beast. It's like Atlanta I guess. Below average pass D but even #1 WRs can't get the better of trufant. But that's because he shadows. Does Davis shadow as well? I saw Indy is ranked 5th against WRs but I think they allow the most receptions to WRs in the league (I think average of 15). But I think we are nitpicking at that point. I don't think anyone disagrees with Marshall as a high quality fantasy starter going forward. I can't think of anyone besides Enunwa that takes away targets from Bmarsh. I guess Jalen Marshall?

From what I have read Davis shadows. He certainly seemed to against Hopkins. Good thing the rest of my team had a good week.

I am pretty high on Robby Anderson to take some targets from Marshall, and maybe if Sefarian Jenkins ever plays he will get a few. Marshall should see more balls going his way than when Decker was around (actually probably the same number of targets because they will get less first downs and attempts).

Anderson has looked very good for an UDFA(think he was the preseason receiving leader-hurray!) but he is rail thin and has some trouble getting off the line and would benefit from a strong armed QB to hit him deep.

Jalin Marshall seems more like an underneath catch and run guy and has fumbling problems. The #7 Charon Peake has also looked okay, but none of them will eat into Marshall's looks. I would guess they will continue feeding Marshall and the backs.

Basically, they have some nice potential pieces, but I wouldn't be picking anybody up for fantasy just yet. OTOH, if I were trying to hit a lottery ticket on that team it would be Anderson. He had 7 points in my league last week (30 yard rush+40 receiving) and was getting around 6 targets per. I still threaten to pick him up, but I do that with Justin Blackmon too.

Fitz
B Marshall
Crabtree

Concesnsus seems to ride Marshall/Fitz every week, but Crabtree has been great. Fitz/Marshall is what I think I need to roll with.

I'm 2-5 and have most points scored against me. I've played the week high scorer 2x and 2nd high once. I have most points scored in my division (12 team PPR)

My team:

Brees
Elliot
L. Murray
Fitz
B. Marshall/Crabtree
M. Bennett
Hauschka
Jets/Chiefs

Can't believe I'm 2-5. Need to go 5-1 to make playoffs.

Frustrating year.

I think you just need to go matchups, really. I would start Fitz most weeks because he's probably the most reliable right now. Marshall obviously is a guy you want to start most weeks as well but yeah.. I think you just need to play the best matchups with those 3 guys.

I have basically one guy who I will drop (Don Jackson) so I can scoop a player in his place.. my team is light at RB right now. All I have is McCoy/Forte/Mathews but I only need to start 2 a week because I have plenty of WR/TE options to flex.

I can either stash Rawls which may or may not help in 2-3 weeks.. I can put in a bid for Chris Thompson who has a pretty high PPR floor especially with Matt Jones not being able to stop fumbling. Or I could add Corey Coleman who was just dropped and I'd be very WR heavy (Julio, Evans, Marvin Jones, Snead, Smith Sr., Britt, Coleman) and I'd probably have to try and flip a WR for a RB.

I guess I could drop Britt for Coleman but I literally just spent like $15 of my budget on Britt so I don't want to just totally waste the money.

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Literally every RB I own is either now injured or irrelevant, and there are scraps left on the wire. Who would you target on the wire in PPR for the next few weeks? KaDeem Carey CHI Rob Kelley WAS Perkins NYG Dwayne Washington. They need a runner between the tackles. He has promise. No competition. Good offense with a between the tackles guy could be a good situation. Not many others out there.

Diggs and Ryan Mathews
For
Ingram

I'm loaded with underperforming stud wr(dez, Hopkins, kelvin benjamin, Tate). So to me, I traded depth for a legit starting rb that had his bye already.

Then put in a claim for devonte Adams and Rawls. I think Rawls is one of those guys that can carry a team down the stretch. Adams was always supposed to be better, maybe last week was the breakout?

I'd go Rawls. You are light at rb. Coleman is talented but Pryor is now a big part of the offense. With that qb situation, his upside is limited.

The skins aren't benching Jones, he will always have a role which limits the other two, imo.

free agents in your leagues. A lot of people are saying they're claiming them.

We do have deep benches (8 person) so maybe that explains it, but neither has touched the waiver wire this year.

My best waiver pick up options this week are:

Jack Doyle juat waived Sunday before game time. With Moncrief, Dorsett, and Allen potentially returning not sure how many targets he continues to get.

Vernon Davis
Brandon LaFell
Cameron Brate
Alfred Blue
Adam Humphries
Marquise Lee
Peyton Barber
Cordarelle Patterson
Ka'Deem Carey

We don't need a TE, I think Carey is the only one I'd consider picking up. Anyone else worth a claim?

Should I sit Rivers this week against Denver and pick up a Fitzpatrick @ the Browns?

Also is Michael Thomas or Travis Benjamin worth starting over Matt Jones?

And also which TE is better down the stretch Hunter Henry or Julius Thomas? I have both

so that makes a big difference.

Rawls has been in the FA pool since like Week 3. No one has picked him up. Adams is actually also a FA in both leagues.. I don't even have room to add him in my main league unless I drop Britt for him but I have a very sizable bid in for him in my other league where I literally have 2 WR spots empty with no one to fill them with because of byes.

But yeah I think I'm going to put in a claim for Rawls. I should have just picked him up for free during the week.. of course now this is going to be the week where people put in bids and try to get him. Hope $11 is enough.

I'm hoping he's a huge difference maker.

His target to return is week 9, he's running now but I wouldn't be surprised if he's back week 10-11 since Seattle wants him fully ready

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Should I sit Rivers this week against Denver and pick up a Fitzpatrick @ the Browns? Also is Michael Thomas or Travis Benjamin worth starting over Matt Jones? And also which TE is better down the stretch Hunter Henry or Julius Thomas? I have both

I'd start Thomas over Jones, and Hunter Henry is in the concussion protocol, so keep an eye on that.

I hate benching my QB because of matchups, but Fitz vs CLE should be a good matchup

in a 12 team league. I executed three trades so far with a few desperate owners and now I have another trade that another owner is considering that would deliver L Bell to me.

where at 2 - 5 I unofficially waived the white towel and it's a keeper league so I have an additional 1st and 2nd for next year plus Eli, Beckham, Shepard, Landry and Gurley on a bye.

So I'm starting:

Wentz
Derrick Henry/TJ Yeldon
Kendall Wright/Michael Thomas
Jordan Howard
Kelce
Sturgis
Buffalo

it's literally the worst team I can ever remember fielding

good thing is I have zero bye issues the rest of the way, but I'm looking to trade Gurley and Beckham.

drop Shepard or Moncrief for Montgomery? I'd have to use the #2 waiver claim. Standard scoring.

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drop Shepard or Moncrief for Montgomery? I'd have to use the #2 waiver claim. Standard scoring.

No. You get maybe another week or 2 out of Montgomery who's not even RB eligible in certain leagues (he isn't for Yahoo! nor should he be). Moncrief is the best player of the 3 and should help you in the back half of the year.

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drop Shepard or Moncrief for Montgomery? I'd have to use the #2 waiver claim. Standard scoring.

What he said. Plus, Moncrief is back practicing. With Dorsett hurt, he may be getting serious targets sooner rather than later.

PHI @ DAL
SEA @ NO
GB @ ATL
TEN vs JAX
DET @ HOU
NYJ @ CLE
SD @ DEN

SEA is on my roster. All road D's except TEN.

Titans look good on paper with how poor Jacksonville is playing, but they just got the doors blown off by Indy, and are primed for another letdown on short rest and on the road.

Jets may be playing a 3rd string QB, their front 7 should feast.

go Jets

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Ingram for Allen Robinson.

Well, welcome to the ARob weekly kick yourself in the nuts club. If this guy doesnt score a TD, he killed your team in a given week. Some of it is Bortles regression, but ARob has really fucking sucked this year.