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| Statement from Josh Brown: I am sorry that my past has called into question the character or integrity of The New York Giants, Mr. Mara or any of those who have supported me along the way. I have taken measures to get help so that I may be the voice of change, not a statistic. It is important to share that I never struck my wife, and never would. Abuse takes many forms, and is not a gray area. Through the past several years I have worked to identify and rectify my own behaviors. The road to rehabilitation is a journey and a constant modification of a way of life. My journey will continue forever as a person determined to leave a positive legacy and I embrace the opportunities to show and speak about what has helped me to be that man. In the interim, I am cooperating with the Giants and the NFL. Thank you to everyone that has supported me, I will not let you down. -Josh Brown |
Having said that, it appears he has repeated this behavior over and over. He needs help and I'm not taking him at his word he's going to get it. We'll see where we are a year from now and I wish the both of them the best of luck figuring it all out.
I am having a hard time with this -- just admit you have a problem -- don't try to minimize it -- I didn't like it, or believe it last time -- I didn't believe it now -- It's like his public lying is ok
Why did he lie in the first place ?
It's obviously not a clear cut situation with one dramatic case of violence. It's a complicated issue, and taking into account the good for all parties wasn't resolved with a one game suspension and a lot of information unavailable.
James Kratch Retweeted Dan Duggan
In his writings included in police docs, Brown said he "physically" abused wife. But this statement a clear denial. #Giants
No doubt the allegations make him look like a terrible husband and an abuser, but how many BBI'ers have used the phrase "wife beater" the past few months?
If the game is on the line in the final seconds and the difference bet a giant W or L is 3 pts, if Charles Manson is 28 for 29 from inside the 40 on the year, let's go !
James Kratch Retweeted Dan Duggan
In his writings included in police docs, Brown said he "physically" abused wife. But this statement a clear denial. #Giants
He said he never struck his wife. That doesn't mean he never got physical. Not to speculate, but I'm guessing it was along the lines of grabbing and shaking. (Cue the Chris Rock bit)
She kicked him in the ribs
He knows he screwed up royally many times over many years. Hope he get the help he realizes he needs.
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She kicked him in the ribs
Feisty.
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In comment 13190589 Brown Recluse said:
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She kicked him in the ribs
Feisty.
dont be an idiot
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In comment 13190589 Brown Recluse said:
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or something?
She kicked him in the ribs
Feisty.
don't be an idiot
How many maidens have you rescued on the internet so far?
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James Kratch Retweeted Dan Duggan
In his writings included in police docs, Brown said he "physically" abused wife. But this statement a clear denial. #Giants
He said he never struck his wife. That doesn't mean he never got physical. Not to speculate, but I'm guessing it was along the lines of grabbing and shaking. (Cue the Chris Rock bit)
Also maybe a push. Maybe pushing her against a wall and screaming at her with a clenched fist before he realized what he was doing.
None of it acceptable, but certainly not hitting her trying to hurt her.
If he really wants to avoid anything questioning the integrity of Mara or the Giants he should shut the fuck up.
I really wish the Giants would have taken more time to carefully make a decision on what is clearly a blurry situation.
Cutting him was not the solution and inviting him back after a limp one-game suspension, with limited information was not the solution.
I really wish the Giants would have taken more time to carefully make a decision on what is clearly a blurry situation.
Cutting him was not the solution and inviting him back after a limp one-game suspension, with limited information was not the solution.
The perfect solution was right in front of them. They just needed to not re-sign him. And then they re-signed him. Stupid.
I mean, it is OK to call people like Hardy, Rice and Brown every name in the book. Act like there is a moral high ground from which we should shovel our sacred dirt on them. We get info from Deadspin or selected snippets from the Media and use that to condemn.
But if somebody, even jokingly tries to say something about the behavior of a different party, it is shouted down as insensitive, demeaning, or 99% of the time making the victim out to be the criminal.
People look at Josh Brown as being a monster. They look at him as pummeling his wife anytime he was in a bad mood. But the story that seems to be looking as realistic is that it was a shitty marriage with a turbulent relationship that reportedly got physical from both parties, especially when she was drunk.
Mentioning Josh Brown as a wife beater gets pats on the backs from the Social Media Warriors, and probably earns you a golden pitchfork with tines sharpened to a fine point. But mention the wife and all you'll get is scorn and shame.
And yes, I know that's a gross overreaction to what was meant as a joke - but we see it time and again where it is OK to villainize people because the mob approves.
If he really wants to avoid anything questioning the integrity of Mara or the Giants he should shut the fuck up.
The perfect solution was right in front of them. They just needed to not re-sign him. And then they re-signed him. Stupid.
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The perfect solution was right in front of them. They just needed to not re-sign him. And then they re-signed him. Stupid.
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What has changed? Pull the thread up, it's still out there or archived.
As far as the team's responsibility, I read the deadspin article, and it states over and again how reticent his wife was to speak to the NFL/team. And it's definitely unclear how Brown presented it to the team. Did the team have access to the police reports? I know there was an "incident" at the pro-bowl, but banging on a hotel-room door. I get that it can bee taken as threatening behavior, but for a lot of couples, it might just be a standard Friday night.
And I wonder how much the team felt like they wanted to support him if he was getting help. It just doesn't seem like they'd knowingly make themselves vulnerable for a kicker.
No doubt, I'm being naive. Maybe there'll be more clarity around this at some point, but probably not.
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could pull up that original thread and call out the morons who were saying it was "ridiculous" and to "move on" when some of us were saying it was really weird/odd that the Giants were defending this guy and keeping him around when it just seemed off....that would be great.
What has changed? Pull the thread up, it's still out there or archived.
What has changed?? I started a thread on Brown months ago saying it was just really weird that the Giants were sticking by him, and that something didn't feel right about it. Well - about 90% of the people commented saying how ridiculous it was to even question it...he's a kicker who cares...they made their decision who cares...moving on who cares...yawn.....why start a thread on this....the situation is over with...
People also got testy when I pointed out their posts at 1:16PM saying, "We won't win another game this fucking year" when we'd even win that one a few hours later.
People got so offended which IMO was almost the height of irony.
Plus eleventy-billion
He is a huge distraction
He flat out blew a game this year kicking it out of bounds on a kickoff
Isn't Giants kinda guy even when they say be heavy handed
Guy is a Neanderthal
Just curious, Josh. The photo she took with the leg bruise. Did she fall? Did she do that to herself?
Wow.
So "getting physical" is different than "struck."
Technically OK.
But holy fucking fuck. What a load of fucking Grade-A shit that is.
Plenty of information was available. The NFL and the Giants didn't try terribly hard to obtain it.
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It is important to share that I never struck my wife, and never would.
Just curious, Josh. The photo she took with the leg bruise. Did she fall? Did she do that to herself?
He's probably saying he never punched or slapped her in the face, and I completely agree it's an idiotic distinction.
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Why? What did the Giants actually know prior to the signing? I think too many people are assuming too much. As I said before, people are supposed to he innocent until proven guilty. Just because someone was accused of something doesn't mean they did it. Bromley was accused of rape. That never occurred. Strahan was accused of shit by his ex-wife. There are numerous situations of this. Some are true and some arent. I would lean towards the Giants not knowing anything concrete that would have led to this situation. If they knew half the shit that they knew now I think it would have been a different situation. Hindsight is 20/20.
Plenty of information was available. The NFL and the Giants didn't try terribly hard to obtain it.
That, and idiot kickers are a dime a dozen.
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Why? What did the Giants actually know prior to the signing? I think too many people are assuming too much. As I said before, people are supposed to he innocent until proven guilty. Just because someone was accused of something doesn't mean they did it. Bromley was accused of rape. That never occurred. Strahan was accused of shit by his ex-wife. There are numerous situations of this. Some are true and some arent. I would lean towards the Giants not knowing anything concrete that would have led to this situation. If they knew half the shit that they knew now I think it would have been a different situation. Hindsight is 20/20.
Plenty of information was available. The NFL and the Giants didn't try terribly hard to obtain it.
Not true. The Sheriff of the county was interviewed and he clearly stated that the league DID try to obtain the information but they wouldn't release it because it was an open investigation. Again, there are a lot of assumptions going on here. Where was all of this "plenty of information available" supposed to come from? TMZ? The National Enquirer? US Weekly?