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wgenesis123 : 10/27/2016 8:40 am
I am in a three way tie for best record in my league at 5-2. I have a 78 point advantage so I am in first place. The other two teams are husband and wife with the husband being the commish and my cousin. They just tried to make a trade of Allen Hurns and Devonte Freeman for Antonio Brown and Duke Johnson. Someone vetoed the trade, not sure who that is. Is this a fair trade in your opinion and is it fair for husband and wife to make trades? The league for the most part is all cousins and in laws.
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In a keeper league  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2016 11:56 am : link
on a team all but eliminated, which of these trades would you consider.

I am trading Beckham, who would be a 1st round keeper.

I send:

Beckham

I get one of

Melvin Gordon (9th round keeper)
Devontae Booker (12 round keeper)

and a 2nd round pick

I send:
Beckham

I get one of

Fuller (15th round keeper)

Spencer Ware (11th round keeper)

and a 2nd round pick
I think you lose in both.  
Keith : 10/27/2016 11:57 am : link
good luck.
I would just keep Beckham  
YAJ2112 : 10/27/2016 11:58 am : link
unless you can't keep him beyond next year or something.
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arcarsenal : 10/27/2016 11:59 am : link
Thing is with guys like Gordon, Booker and Ware.. they all have more value right now because other guys in their backfields are injured. Gordon will be less valuable if Woodhead comes back next year.. Booker has some standalone value but if CJ is healthy they're probably splitting work. Don't know what's going to happen with Charles but.. same deal.
My team is currently in 12th place  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2016 12:07 pm : link
out of 12 teams (5th in points scored and i have some good players or theoretically good at least, Beckham, Landry, Gurley, Kelce, and others,) so my plan is to try and trade what I can for keeper quality players or draft picks. I can only accumulate 4 additional draft picks and I already have an extra 2nd.

If I come in last place it makes zero sense to keep Beckham, since we are only allowed two keepers, but I could simply re-draft Beckham.

Of course if I trade him odds are I would not be able to re-draft him if he's kept with someone else's first round pick, but I'd get a good player regardless.

Went into the year ok at RB  
kash94 : 10/27/2016 12:25 pm : link
with Lacy, Mathews, and Woodhead (have to start 2 in a 12 team league). No Lacy and no Woodhead.

Picked up Rawls, Starks, Gillesse, and Chris Thompson this week lol so hoping that 1 of them + Mathews can be passable down the stretch.

Luckily my other positions are ok with Brady, Brown, Jones, Cooks, Thomas, Rudolph, and Tucker
I haven't played much fantasy  
VenteSette : 10/27/2016 12:37 pm : link
but I think people overrate Woodhead's impact. He is getting older, and is going to be a 3rd down back. I think the Chargers want to ride Gordon. I know they split time before Woodhead got hurt, but I think a big part of that was looking for more targets with Allen down. At the very least, I think Gordon is a solid 2 down back who will get work at the goal.

Fuller is interesting. He looked pretty good before he got dinged, but ...Can you name one guy that can shut down DeAndre Hopkins? Brock Osweiler.
I still can't believe  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2016 12:39 pm : link
the Texans gave Osweiler that deal. I wonder if O'Brien even wanted him. The guy flat out sucks, and has shown no reason to think otherwise.
Thoughts on Ajayi moving forward?  
David in LA : 10/27/2016 12:48 pm : link
Should I use him as trade bait or roll with him? My current backs are Shady, C Michael, Ware, D Booker, and Ajayi.
RE: Thoughts on Ajayi moving forward?  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2016 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13193194 David in LA said:
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Should I use him as trade bait or roll with him? My current backs are Shady, C Michael, Ware, D Booker, and Ajayi.


His value will never be higher so now's the time to deal him if you want to. I'm guessing he comes back down to reality. They've got the Jets and Rams in 2 of the next 3 then end the season against the Ravens, Cardinals, Jets, Bills, and Patriots.

I'm guessing they will be playing from behind in most of these games, and will be up against top defenses is atleast half their remaining games. He will get volume though which is the silver lining but I'd definitely consider selling high.
Dion Lewis is practicing  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/27/2016 12:59 pm : link
I repeat, Dion Lewis is practicing in pads today.

I pray that my team gets healthy and a stretch run of Shady, Riddick and Lewis in PPR.
RE: Dion Lewis is practicing  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2016 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13193220 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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I repeat, Dion Lewis is practicing in pads today.

I pray that my team gets healthy and a stretch run of Shady, Riddick and Lewis in PPR.


They have 3 weeks to activate him or end his season I believe so he's still not out of the woods. Definitely a step in the right direction though.
RE: RE: Dion Lewis is practicing  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/27/2016 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13193234 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13193220 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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I repeat, Dion Lewis is practicing in pads today.

I pray that my team gets healthy and a stretch run of Shady, Riddick and Lewis in PPR.



They have 3 weeks to activate him or end his season I believe so he's still not out of the woods. Definitely a step in the right direction though.


I know, but my PPR auction league worked out pretty well this year and I'm hoping one lottery ticket comes in after injuries. I got Julio for $10 less than Odell!
Jordan Reed looks like he might actually play this weekend..  
arcarsenal : 10/27/2016 1:22 pm : link
Says he feels symptom free and only has one more hurdle to clear which is being cleared by a neurologist.
RE: I still can't believe  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2016 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13193171 UConn4523 said:
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the Texans gave Osweiler that deal. I wonder if O'Brien even wanted him. The guy flat out sucks, and has shown no reason to think otherwise.


He went through 4 QB's in 2015, he probably wanted some stability and figured roll the dice with Osweiler.

Wouldn't be the first awful QB decision an NFL team has made. or the worst.
trade help  
HeftyLefty : 10/27/2016 1:37 pm : link
I have been offered Aaron Rodgers and John Brown for Philip Rivers and Latavius Murray in a 2 QB, 10 team, .5 PPR league. My team is below. Thoughts? He also has Stefon Diggs I can maybe try to swap in for John Brown?

Team:
QB: Brees
QB: Rivers
WR: Julio
WR: Dez
WR: DeSean Jackson
RB: Ingram
RB: Latavius Murray
TE: Eifert
Flex: Jeremy Hill
Bench: Crowell
Bench: Theo Riddick
Bench: Gillislee
Bench: Flacco
Bench: Thomas Rawls
Bench: Jack Doyle
IR: James Starks

Kicker: Vinateiri

Defense: Titans
Bench: Carolina
RE: trade help  
arcarsenal : 10/27/2016 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13193290 HeftyLefty said:
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I have been offered Aaron Rodgers and John Brown for Philip Rivers and Latavius Murray in a 2 QB, 10 team, .5 PPR league. My team is below. Thoughts? He also has Stefon Diggs I can maybe try to swap in for John Brown?

Team:
QB: Brees
QB: Rivers
WR: Julio
WR: Dez
WR: DeSean Jackson
RB: Ingram
RB: Latavius Murray
TE: Eifert
Flex: Jeremy Hill
Bench: Crowell
Bench: Theo Riddick
Bench: Gillislee
Bench: Flacco
Bench: Thomas Rawls
Bench: Jack Doyle
IR: James Starks

Kicker: Vinateiri

Defense: Titans
Bench: Carolina


I would make that trade.
RE: Jordan Reed looks like he might actually play this weekend..  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2016 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13193266 arcarsenal said:
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Says he feels symptom free and only has one more hurdle to clear which is being cleared by a neurologist.


I'm wondering what the actual protocol is here, from the doctor's end. With this many concussions, is just being symptom free good enough? Such a gray area.

That said, I wish Reed the best, he's a really good football player and one of the few Skins I don't despise.
RE: RE: Jordan Reed looks like he might actually play this weekend..  
HeftyLefty : 10/27/2016 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13193308 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13193266 arcarsenal said:


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Says he feels symptom free and only has one more hurdle to clear which is being cleared by a neurologist.



I'm wondering what the actual protocol is here, from the doctor's end. With this many concussions, is just being symptom free good enough? Such a gray area.

That said, I wish Reed the best, he's a really good football player and one of the few Skins I don't despise.


UCONN would you do that rodgers trade above?
RE: RE: Jordan Reed looks like he might actually play this weekend..  
arcarsenal : 10/27/2016 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13193308 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13193266 arcarsenal said:


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Says he feels symptom free and only has one more hurdle to clear which is being cleared by a neurologist.



I'm wondering what the actual protocol is here, from the doctor's end. With this many concussions, is just being symptom free good enough? Such a gray area.

That said, I wish Reed the best, he's a really good football player and one of the few Skins I don't despise.


I'd just be so paranoid if I was at the point he's at.. he's not too far away from living a seriously impaired life post-football. But I guess some people are just wired differently.
I'd do the Rodgers trade regardless  
giants#1 : 10/27/2016 2:03 pm : link
but you also get a bye week bonus since Rodgers had his and Rivers hasn't.
yes to the Rodgers trade  
UConn4523 : 10/27/2016 2:16 pm : link
no brainer, IMO
COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP  
giantgiantfan : 10/27/2016 3:01 pm : link
PPR 4-3 and knocking on the door of 4th seed. Who should go in RB2 and Flex spot between:

Allen Robinson
Devontae Booker (CJ Anderson out)
Jacquizz Rodgers
Melvin Gordon

Right now I'm running with
RB: Christine Michael, Jacquizz Rodgers
Flex: Devontae Booker

Robinson is just disappointing and Gordon faces the Denver D. Thoughts?
Theo Riddick practicing  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/27/2016 3:14 pm : link
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RE: COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP  
VenteSette : 10/27/2016 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13193447 giantgiantfan said:
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PPR 4-3 and knocking on the door of 4th seed. Who should go in RB2 and Flex spot between:

Allen Robinson
Devontae Booker (CJ Anderson out)
Jacquizz Rodgers
Melvin Gordon

Right now I'm running with
RB: Christine Michael, Jacquizz Rodgers
Flex: Devontae Booker

Robinson is just disappointing and Gordon faces the Denver D. Thoughts?


I'm in a similar boat. I have Booker and Gordon. Ingram/Cooks v. Seattle. Benjamin/Stewart v. Arizona. Mathews/Matthews v. Dallas. Will be sitting the Philly guys and picking 2RB/1WR/Flex from the rest. Gordon had 94 yards vs. Denver the first game, but that was in SD and on 27 carries while they killed clock to win.

The guys I have with favorable matchups are Doug Martin (won't play) and Moncrief (might play). Hopkins has a great matchup, but I start him anyway. Probably starting Cooks/Benjamin and Booker and picking between Gordon and Ingram.
RE: RE: COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP  
giantgiantfan : 10/27/2016 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13193491 VenteSette said:
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In comment 13193447 giantgiantfan said:


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PPR 4-3 and knocking on the door of 4th seed. Who should go in RB2 and Flex spot between:

Allen Robinson
Devontae Booker (CJ Anderson out)
Jacquizz Rodgers
Melvin Gordon

Right now I'm running with
RB: Christine Michael, Jacquizz Rodgers
Flex: Devontae Booker

Robinson is just disappointing and Gordon faces the Denver D. Thoughts?



I'm in a similar boat. I have Booker and Gordon. Ingram/Cooks v. Seattle. Benjamin/Stewart v. Arizona. Mathews/Matthews v. Dallas. Will be sitting the Philly guys and picking 2RB/1WR/Flex from the rest. Gordon had 94 yards vs. Denver the first game, but that was in SD and on 27 carries while they killed clock to win.

The guys I have with favorable matchups are Doug Martin (won't play) and Moncrief (might play). Hopkins has a great matchup, but I start him anyway. Probably starting Cooks/Benjamin and Booker and picking between Gordon and Ingram.


Eash Gordon v Denver, Ingram v Seattle. I'd go with Gordon as he's the 3rd best fantasy RB this year.
RE: RE: RE: COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP  
VenteSette : 10/27/2016 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13193495 giantgiantfan said:
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Eash Gordon v Denver, Ingram v Seattle. I'd go with Gordon as he's the 3rd best fantasy RB this year.


I am actually leaning towards Ingram because the Saints are home and Gordon is playing in Denver.
RE: RE: RE: RE: COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP  
giantgiantfan : 10/27/2016 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13193525 VenteSette said:
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In comment 13193495 giantgiantfan said:


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Eash Gordon v Denver, Ingram v Seattle. I'd go with Gordon as he's the 3rd best fantasy RB this year.



I am actually leaning towards Ingram because the Saints are home and Gordon is playing in Denver.


You do you, I think Gordon will get his on the goal line though and could get some checkdown in PPR.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP  
VenteSette : 10/27/2016 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13193556 giantgiantfan said:
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You do you, I think Gordon will get his on the goal line though and could get some checkdown in PPR.


Still working it out. I guess Denver hasn't been anywhere near as strong vs. RBs as Seattle. I'm not PPR and I am much higher on Gordon than Ingram. Ingram is a disappointment that I am not disappointed in because I got him for nothing. I had planned to start Gordon all year. Woodhead going down was a plus, though I felt Gordon would be pushing him out anyway.

Last time that I didn't go with NO at home I missed out on Cooks 173 yard day (23.5), though my gut got me 20.5 from Stewart's return against them. That's a fast track.
RE: yes to the Rodgers trade  
HeftyLefty : 10/27/2016 6:41 pm : link
In comment 13193344 UConn4523 said:
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no brainer, IMO


Thanks guys, I did the trade, got Rodgers and John Brown for Rivers and Latavius in a 10 team 2 qb, .5 ppr lg

New team:
Team:
QB: Rodgers
QB: Brees
WR: Julio
WR: Dez
WR: John Brown
RB: Ingram
RB: Jeremy Hill
TE: Eifert
Flex: Theo Riddick
Bench: Crowell
Bench: DeSean Jackson
Bench: Gillislee
Bench: Flacco
Bench: Thomas Rawls
Bench: Jack Doyle
IR: James Starks

Kicker: Vinateiri

Defense: Titans
Bench: Carolina

Thoughts on how to improve? Really would like a better WR3. John Brown and DeSean define boom or bust
I sympathize with the tough decisions  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 8:08 pm : link

I'm sticking to my guns and benching Allen Robinson, starting Cole Beasley in his spot and starting Maquis Lee in a 12 team PPR in OBJ's open spot.

Benching Matt Jones to start Chris Ivory because I feel that the best way to fix a broken QB is to run the ball. No justification for starting Ivory, just a shot in the dark which is why I play the game. Let's go Chris Ivory!
Matt Jones still hasn't practiced this week..  
arcarsenal : 10/27/2016 8:10 pm : link
Looks like there's a real chance he doesn't play on Sunday. So you might not have a choice there.
As far as advice on Gordon goes  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 8:18 pm : link

I said the week that Woodhead went down that Gordon became the #2 RB behind Bell for the rest of the year. I wouldn't want anyone else, unfortunately I play in leagues that have owners more experienced than me and couldn't get Gordon for generous offers.

Never sit a top RB, the game plan revolves around him, especially one that catches passes. It also means that the defense is planning on taking away the best weapon, best thing about running your own team, you make the call.

Good luck
Allen Robinson  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2016 8:19 pm : link
or Dez Bryant, standard league.
RE: Matt Jones still hasn't practiced this week..  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 8:26 pm : link
In comment 13193755 arcarsenal said:
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Looks like there's a real chance he doesn't play on Sunday. So you might not have a choice there.


Saw that Arc, I have Kelley but couldn't grab Thompson after the 4th week. My other RB option is D'Andre Washington in PPR which isn't inconceivable but between Kelley in London where offense is not prevalent or Washington in a three headed timeshare, now is the time to take a stand with Ivory. He's been sick and has been behind in development, I'm hoping he's in peak game shape for prime time.
Point of reference  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 8:40 pm : link

from what I was talking about earlier this morning, that's a dropped pass. As mentioned, I don't know what rules the stats guy has to follow but that was a catchable pass by a top tier WR.

Just sayin...
Do I start Brady this weekend? Usually a no brainer but he  
jgambrosio : 10/27/2016 9:02 pm : link
has crappy stats against the Bills. My only other option is Russell Wilson who’s hurting as well...
jgam  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 9:07 pm : link

That's a definite " C'Mon Man" post...
lol I know  
jgambrosio : 10/27/2016 9:12 pm : link
maybe I’m just overthinking it since the Bills shut them down earlier this season (granted without Brady). I just can’t afford a loss this week - i’m now 4-3, and my positions of strength are underperforming (Gurley, Miller, Forte and Howard) and my lottery tickets are way too inconsistent (Kelvin and Travis Benjamin). I mean I’m starting Cole Beasley, Ty Montgomery and Doyle this weekend.
I happen to like Beasley  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 9:21 pm : link

and Ty. 6 teams are on bye, got to get creative.

You waited long enough for Brady. He's the best ever, you sit him when he's hurt and not playing or on a bye, otherwise, worry about other positions.
There is NO WAY to know if the trade is fair  
EricJ : 10/27/2016 9:28 pm : link
without seeing both full rosters. A trade is not simply about the point value of the players involved in the trade.

Let me paint an extreme example...
Let's say a team is loaded with RBs but has shit for a TE. The owner wants to trade a healthy LeSean McCoy for a healthy Jordan Reed. On the surface it looks like a bad trade, but the guy giving up McCoy is rounding out his starting lineup and because he has two solid starters already at RB, his weekly point value for the team has increased.
McCoy for Reed?  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 9:41 pm : link

How many teams?
PPR?
Keeper league?
How many RBs started?
Flex?
TE eligible flex?

Point taken and mentioned earlier. Impossible to accurately evaluate trades but value can be assigned to give the person asking some idea of what they are looking at.
RE: Do I start Brady this weekend? Usually a no brainer but he  
arcarsenal : 10/27/2016 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13193839 jgambrosio said:
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has crappy stats against the Bills. My only other option is Russell Wilson who’s hurting as well...


I have Brady too but I also have Ryan.. so I'm actually considering starting Ryan but I feel like it'll probably come back to bite me.
RE: McCoy for Reed?  
EricJ : 10/27/2016 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13193926 Cruzin said:
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How many teams?
PPR?
Keeper league?
How many RBs started?
Flex?
TE eligible flex?

Point taken and mentioned earlier. Impossible to accurately evaluate trades but value can be assigned to give the person asking some idea of what they are looking at.


My scenario was an example of why you cannot evaluate a trade without understanding both full rosters and the situation.
Yeah, I know  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 9:49 pm : link

Who wants to do that without getting paid for it?
Shocking  
jgambrosio : 10/27/2016 9:55 pm : link
I draft Derrick Henry, drop him a couple weeks ago after him getting 2 carries a game and now Murray gets hurt.
I had Tenn. D available but wasted a waiver wire pick on Car  
Cruzin : 10/27/2016 10:02 pm : link

One of the guys on Fantasy Live was all in on Tenn. D tonight. I looked at the option but blew it off. Maybe Carolina wakes up this week.
RE: Shocking  
EricJ : 10/27/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13193949 jgambrosio said:
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I draft Derrick Henry, drop him a couple weeks ago after him getting 2 carries a game and now Murray gets hurt.


I drafted him in 2 of my leagues and one is a keeper
RE: I had Tenn. D available but wasted a waiver wire pick on Car  
EricJ : 10/27/2016 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13193955 Cruzin said:
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One of the guys on Fantasy Live was all in on Tenn. D tonight. I looked at the option but blew it off. Maybe Carolina wakes up this week.


I am using the TN Def in a fan duel contest right now. One that is just this game and the sunday morning game. I chose them because they were the only true home defense of the two games.
no more Tennessee D for me  
SHO'NUFF : 10/27/2016 11:38 pm : link
fuck them, they burned me two weeks in a row when they were supposed to be a Top 5-10 D. These "websites" with rankings know as much as I do.
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