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Roger Lewis Jr...what are we thinking?

redbeard : 11/7/2016 10:07 am
Whats BBI's thoughts on this kid? Ran a nice route on his TD and then turned around later in the game and dropped a big third down catch that could have been a back breaker.

Are we thinking this kid becomes another undrafted gem at wide receiver? or is he a JAG?
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He got wide open a number of times  
Patrick77 : 11/7/2016 10:20 am : link
And had two big drops. If he can get over what I assume was nerves he could be a prettty good receiver for us.
Right On...!  
Bluesbreaker : 11/7/2016 10:21 am : link
Lewis seems..
FatMan in Charlotte : 10:08 am : link : reply
to have good rapport with Eli. Obviously, you don't want to see the drops, but at this point, he's getting open better than Cruz.

Look we all love Cruz deservedly so but Victor has had his
fair share of drops and he rarely gets behind the defense
anymore . It may be a blessing in disguise ..
The drop was in a very key situation but if you take into
account the number of attempts that have gone Lewis's way
and the fact that he is a very good gunner on special
teams whats not to like about this kid .
Has great downfield speed.  
WideRight : 11/7/2016 10:21 am : link
Better than Cruz or Sheppard. So he takes some pressure off of Odell. He fits in with the group very well.
The question is are the drops because  
BillT : 11/7/2016 10:23 am : link
He's just getting used to real game action or does he have questionable hands. No way to know that right now.
He doesn't always catch the ball  
Giantology : 11/7/2016 10:23 am : link
But when he does, he prefers touchdowns.
In fact,  
Giantology : 11/7/2016 10:24 am : link
Maybe he can only catch touchdowns?
I am good with Lewis getting more snaps.  
Jimmy Googs : 11/7/2016 10:26 am : link
I noticed Harris on the field towards the end which was a surprise...did Lewis get "benched" b/c these drops?

Anybody?
RE: I am good with Lewis getting more snaps.  
Brown Recluse : 11/7/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 13208371 Jimmy Googs said:
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I noticed Harris on the field towards the end which was a surprise...did Lewis get "benched" b/c these drops?

Anybody?


Lewis was in for Beckham while he was hurt
I think Harris was there  
PEEJ : 11/7/2016 10:30 am : link
for better blocking
He has already contributed more than I expected  
pjcas18 : 11/7/2016 10:32 am : link
from a rookie UDFA WR on a team where WR is a strength in terms of personnel.

Hope he continues to develop, it would be nice to have some insurance against injury to Beckham, Cruz, or Shepard
Talented kid  
Kyle in NY : 11/7/2016 10:33 am : link
was recruited and committed to Ohio State but some trouble with the law (charges were later dropped) led to both sides moving on before he landed at BG.

Bad drop yesterday but for an undrafted FA he's made a nice impact.
He dropped as many passes as OBJ...  
BamaBlue : 11/7/2016 10:33 am : link
and on the bright side, didn't lose a takeaway interception!

What the Giants have is a very good #3 WR with upside...
Great pickup  
spike : 11/7/2016 10:40 am : link
Our best no 4 in a while
Without having all the facts and seeing the variables involved  
Bob in Newburgh : 11/7/2016 10:48 am : link
Early impression is that the kid is better than the present Cruz. Seems to be somewhat of a natural.

Not enough playing time to know whether the hands are a problem or an outlier.
RE: He is getting open...  
Jesse B : 11/7/2016 10:48 am : link
In comment 13208328 EricJ said:
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to me that is most important right now.


Bingo. And at times he is wide open! Cruz I hope is ok because he is clutch but Lewis might be a player better suited to complement obj on the outside. (That does not mean I think Lewis Jr. is as talented as Cruz I just think Cruz is not an ideal outside WR)
RE: I am good with Lewis getting more snaps.  
Jesse B : 11/7/2016 10:50 am : link
In comment 13208371 Jimmy Googs said:
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I noticed Harris on the field towards the end which was a surprise...did Lewis get "benched" b/c these drops?

Anybody?



Harris is an excellent blocking WR. They brought him in as a blocking WR in three WR sets for Perkins to run the ball in the 4 minute offense.
RE: RE: I am good with Lewis getting more snaps.  
giants#1 : 11/7/2016 10:53 am : link
In comment 13208435 Jesse B said:
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In comment 13208371 Jimmy Googs said:


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I noticed Harris on the field towards the end which was a surprise...did Lewis get "benched" b/c these drops?

Anybody?




Harris is an excellent blocking WR. They brought him in as a blocking WR in three WR sets for Perkins to run the ball in the 4 minute offense.


This. They did this last game too.
i think  
Les in TO : 11/7/2016 10:56 am : link
he can be an x factor on this offense and I like that he's getting more involved.
Meh  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/7/2016 10:57 am : link
All he does is catch touchdowns.
He has some size  
Carson53 : 11/7/2016 10:59 am : link
he has some skill, just hold on to the damn ball.
I know I rather see him than Harris, boy he sucks this year!
I think Rainey should return kicks, just let Harris return
punts, don't trust Rainey fielding punts.
He's got potential  
Sonic Youth : 11/7/2016 11:12 am : link
But those drops were brutal. They could have been game changing, and we're lucky they didn't cost us the game.
He gets good separation but those drops can't happen  
Mason : 11/7/2016 11:28 am : link
...
Am I the only one who wants more  
5BowlsSoon : 11/7/2016 11:28 am : link
KING?
RE: RE: He is getting open...  
Mason : 11/7/2016 11:31 am : link
In comment 13208430 Jesse B said:
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In comment 13208328 EricJ said:


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to me that is most important right now.



Bingo. And at times he is wide open! Cruz I hope is ok because he is clutch but Lewis might be a player better suited to complement obj on the outside. (That does not mean I think Lewis Jr. is as talented as Cruz I just think Cruz is not an ideal outside WR)


He beat press coverage on one play. Looks to be a physical receiver and I agree that is something that has been missing from this offense.
Not bad for a 4th WR  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/7/2016 11:32 am : link
He's had some moments... but yeah, that drop tho :(
He's worth giving more time to  
jpennyva : 11/7/2016 11:34 am : link
in order to better evaluate if he'll contribute significantly. The drops were unfortunate but, as others have pointed out, it's not as if OBJ and Cruz don't drop critical passes from time to time either. I think he will work on it and will improve.
Giants are actually set up well with their WR corp  
Mason : 11/7/2016 11:45 am : link
don't forget about guys like Davis and Powe on the PS. I think those two guys could make the roster next season.
I was waiting for this thread.  
giantgiantfan : 11/7/2016 12:01 pm : link
He had a nice TD, but then two brutal drops that ended what would have been a scoring drive. I hope those drops are just jitters from his first real big shot. You put him out there again and see how he handles it. Even Odell has had some big drops.
If you're going to be a pro,  
PEEJ : 11/7/2016 12:05 pm : link
you have to make the easy catches. If you're going to be the physical big-body receiver, you have to make the contested catches.

Jury's still out
Two words re Lewis's drops.  
CT Charlie : 11/7/2016 12:13 pm : link
Cruz. OdellBeckhamJunior.

The drops are frustrating,  
Mad Mike : 11/7/2016 12:14 pm : link
but I think he's clearly a promising player. He looks like a guy who could become a nice part of our offense if he becomes more reliable in catching the ball.
I don't know why people think he's so fast.  
Ira : 11/7/2016 12:24 pm : link
His times at the combine were anything but. Maybe it's time to see more of Dwayne Harris.
Link - ( New Window )
As Chris Berman would say ...  
Beer Man : 11/7/2016 12:26 pm : link
The kid just catches Touch Downs!

Seriously, I think it is too early to tell. Accept for the two drops yesterday, he has done well in his limited role (played way less minutes than Cruz, but I believe he has more TDs than Cruz).
More time with JUGS machine  
CRinCA : 11/7/2016 12:27 pm : link
Less time with the damn choreographed TD celebrations.

Yeah I know get off my lawn.
not sure what the 'issue'  
giants#1 : 11/7/2016 12:28 pm : link
is this year, but Beckham dropped only 2 pass in 2014 and 5 all of last year. He's definitely was not a WR with drop issues before this year.
Drops - ( New Window )
Remember when Amani Toomer (and even Jerry Rice) ...  
Manny in CA : 11/7/2016 12:35 pm : link

Used to drop a lot of balls (when they first got to the NFL) ?

They both WORKED hard and got over it.

Lewis, I think has that "something" (not just speed or route running), that lets him get open. The last Giants player like him (with less speed than Lewis) was Mario Manningham.
Gotta go with him  
gmenatlarge : 11/7/2016 1:05 pm : link
instead of Cruz on the outside, Cruz is more of a slot receiver.
it's  
blue42 : 11/7/2016 1:26 pm : link
the 82......makes you drop the ball. The kid should get a new number.
Cruz has some very  
joeinpa : 11/7/2016 1:37 pm : link
Big catches this year.
Lewis does get open  
djm : 11/7/2016 2:06 pm : link
He's beating his man just has to catch the ones when he knows he's gonna take a shot.
Even with the drops it's better to  
bradshaw44 : 11/7/2016 2:20 pm : link
Have him out there because the defense has to play him tight due to his ability to get open. More time with the jugs machine hopefully helps with the drops. But overall it's a plus having him on the field. Maybe even more than Cruz at this point.
Look at his Bowling Green  
eliapple : 11/7/2016 3:18 pm : link
tape. 60+ td's.Most were 50-60 yard catches.
He made tough catches. That drop was unbelievable.
Eli said he should have jumped. He dropped another
few plays later.He is going to be a deep threat and that will
free up everyone else. If Cruz misses time he will be in
mix Monday.Those 2 drops hurt.Like to see Adams TE also
get more passes.
He deserves playing time.  
section125 : 11/7/2016 3:26 pm : link
But did I miss something? Didn't Cruz catch a 46 yarder before spraining the ankle? Let's not kick dirt into the grave quite yet.
I actually read yesterday on the game thread someone  
B in ALB : 11/7/2016 3:40 pm : link
say that Eli's pass where he laid it perfectly in between the CB and Safety on the sideline right in Lewis' hands was a bad throw causing him to drop it. This place man.
People wanting the young guys to play  
joe48 : 11/7/2016 4:11 pm : link
They will make mistakes but are gaining valuable experience.
Lewis is fine.  
eclipz928 : 11/7/2016 7:13 pm : link
You don't make it to the NFL as a wide receiver without already proving that you can catch the ball consistently.

He had a rough game yesterday, but overall looks like a promising player with a lot of athleticism. Let's calm down - drops happen.
Way too early to say  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/7/2016 7:22 pm : link
Cruz had plenty of drops when he first started too. However, Lewis doesn't scare a defense so he doesn't get the attention Cruz does. Then there is the fact that Cruz was never a great outside receiver. He's a good #2 but his best position has always been inside.

He's still got a lot to prove.
RE: More time with JUGS machine  
NYDCBlue : 11/8/2016 12:11 am : link
In comment 13208810 CRinCA said:
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Less time with the damn choreographed TD celebrations.

Yeah I know get off my lawn.


No, you have a point. His TD dances come off as a piss poor Beckham imitation, and I strongly dislike the original source material from Beckham to begin with.
RE: RE: RE: I am good with Lewis getting more snaps.  
Jimmy Googs : 11/8/2016 7:47 am : link
In comment 13208452 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13208435 Jesse B said:


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In comment 13208371 Jimmy Googs said:


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I noticed Harris on the field towards the end which was a surprise...did Lewis get "benched" b/c these drops?

Anybody?




Harris is an excellent blocking WR. They brought him in as a blocking WR in three WR sets for Perkins to run the ball in the 4 minute offense.



This. They did this last game too.


Thanks guys. Good call
FYI - Combine numbers suggest a back of roster WR who can survive  
Bob in Newburgh : 11/8/2016 8:27 am : link
only on intangibles.

Pro Day numbers, while not phenomenal, put him in the pre-injury Cruz class of athleticism.

Which better represents Lewis?
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