I know, he's a practice squad scrub for a reason. But on the game-clinching 25-yard run, Gettis was asked to do the work of Justin Pugh, and he delivered big-time. First he put Geno Atkins on his heels, setting him up for Flowers. Then he moved on to the second level and turned Burfict out of the hole. The play design leans heavily on the left guard, and Gettis came through against two of Cincy's best defenders.
Just giving credit where it's due. I'm sure the O-line experts can explain the blocks better.
The announcers never really said much about it and it was hard to see who was playing LG the whole game.
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
There is a big difference between not expecting to play,
and being put out there (Newhouse), and playing a few plays
like Gettis. Newhouse admitted after the game he hasn't played at guard since high school. I am saying for
60 minutes of football, I'll take my chances the other way.
Otherwise, why the hell did they bring Beatty back here at all? It really makes no sense for him to be re-signed to me
at least.
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
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is out with a strained calf this week, I would like to see
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
Why would you move Hart. He is starting to come into his own at RT. Leave him there.
Because you don't have a guard, you move people based
on the particular circumstances. They have moved Pugh in the past as an example of dealing with circumstances.
If Hart has to move for a game or two, it's not going to hurt his development, not talking the rest of the season, short term. I know I don't want Newhouse starting at LG.
The Giants will most likely do that though.
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
Great idea. Hart if finally getting comfortable and looks to be a guy we can really develop at RT, so first chance we get let's move him to guard....
Because you don't have a guard, you move people based
on the particular circumstances. They have moved Pugh in the past as an example of dealing with circumstances.
If Hart has to move for a game or two, it's not going to hurt his development, not talking the rest of the season, short term. I know I don't want Newhouse starting at LG.
The Giants will most likely do that though.
No, you don't move two people to replace one. With a week of practice, Newhouse may prove to be a good guard. Hart is getting better and has a rapport with Jerry. Leave LG to Newhouse and/or Gettis. I actually think Newhouse with decent feet and his power might make a decent guard. Just how much did Newhouse practice at guard beside a cursory number of reps? If he was the problem, why did Atkins line up over Jerry to feast.
Yes, I hope cnewk has some words on Newhouse at LG.
Jesus Christ shut up
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is out with a strained calf this week, I would like to see
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
Great idea. Hart if finally getting comfortable and looks to be a guy we can really develop at RT, so first chance we get let's move him to guard....
Thanks, I thought so too, as I said short term.
Actually, it would not be 'first chance they get'.
Of course we need to improve reading comprehension to see that part of my commentary. Oh by the way, they moved a
No. 1 pick to guard after two years, his name is Pugh.
If Bobby Hart is their RT of their future, and Jerry is
the RG, good luck with that.
I hope this discussion is academic, and Jones is good to go on Sunday, with Pugh returning ~2 weeks later. Otherwise, I think we'll see Newhouse at LG, with Beatty as the occasional sixth lineman. If they have no confidence in Beatty at all, they can either put Gettis at LG with Newhouse as the sixth man, or start Newhouse at LG and bump him outside when they go with six linemen, inserting Gettis at guard for those plays. That kind of rotation might disrupt continuity, but it's probably fine for the purposes of practice reps because the six-blocker plays are a discrete package.
Jesus Christ shut up
No one is clamoring moron, looking at the present situation,
if Jones is out next week. Jesus Christ, learn the game better, before opening your mouth.
I don't want A JAG like Newhouse, or hot garbage like Gettis starting. If other folks do, good for you!
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
Very very bad idea. First off, Hart has always been better at RT than at guard. Secondly, Beatty hasn't even played a down this year and hasn't lined up at right tackle since early in his career. Foolish idea.
If ANYTHING, you would move Hart to guard, Newhouse to RT and Beatty can be the extra lineman/TE but even that makes little sense. Keep Hart at RT, if you believe he is your starter and let the Newhouse or Gettis play guard and let Beatty get his feet wet playing blocking TE.
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who dont see Beatty practice or even know his health condition clamor whine and demand that Will Beatty should be playing.
Jesus Christ shut up
.
No one is clamoring moron, looking at the present situation,
if Jones is out next week. Jesus Christ, learn the game better, before opening your mouth.
I don't want A JAG like Newhouse, or hot garbage like Gettis starting. If other folks do, good for you!
Ill make this very simple for you...
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
An I'm a what?
sure...
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Because you don't have a guard, you move people based
on the particular circumstances. They have moved Pugh in the past as an example of dealing with circumstances.
If Hart has to move for a game or two, it's not going to hurt his development, not talking the rest of the season, short term. I know I don't want Newhouse starting at LG.
The Giants will most likely do that though.
No, you don't move two people to replace one. With a week of practice, Newhouse may prove to be a good guard. Hart is getting better and has a rapport with Jerry. Leave LG to Newhouse and/or Gettis. I actually think Newhouse with decent feet and his power might make a decent guard. Just how much did Newhouse practice at guard beside a cursory number of reps? If he was the problem, why did Atkins line up over Jerry to feast.
Yes, I hope cnewk has some words on Newhouse at LG.
"With a week of practice, Newhouse may turn out to be a good guard", he said what? If Hart and Jerry have 'such a good rapport', how come they were averaging 68 yards a game
on the ground. The running game finally did something in
the 4th quarter last night. The same people who are saying
that Newhouse should start, are the same people who will
be bitching if he stinks it up next week, and you can book it. I have said in the past, Jerry is a pillow, no surprise
that Atkins went after him last night.
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In comment 13218836 Matt M. said:
Because you don't have a guard, you move people based
on the particular circumstances. They have moved Pugh in the past as an example of dealing with circumstances.
If Hart has to move for a game or two, it's not going to hurt his development, not talking the rest of the season, short term. I know I don't want Newhouse starting at LG.
The Giants will most likely do that though.
No, you don't move two people to replace one. With a week of practice, Newhouse may prove to be a good guard. Hart is getting better and has a rapport with Jerry. Leave LG to Newhouse and/or Gettis. I actually think Newhouse with decent feet and his power might make a decent guard. Just how much did Newhouse practice at guard beside a cursory number of reps? If he was the problem, why did Atkins line up over Jerry to feast.
Yes, I hope cnewk has some words on Newhouse at LG.
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"With a week of practice, Newhouse may turn out to be a good guard", he said what? If Hart and Jerry have 'such a good rapport', how come they were averaging 68 yards a game
on the ground. The running game finally did something in
the 4th quarter last night. The same people who are saying
that Newhouse should start, are the same people who will
be bitching if he stinks it up next week, and you can book it. I have said in the past, Jerry is a pillow, no surprise
that Atkins went after him last night.
just no
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
Well, Gettis was on the practice squad until last week, so your argument has a bit of a hole. The only regulars he was practicing with were probably the defensive starters, in his role on the scout team.
That said, Gettis is something of a special case. The Giants apparently keep him around as insurance against two things: (1) and injury to Justin Pugh or (2) Pugh moving to tackle because a starter there gets hurt. #1 happened, and Gettis was immediately promoted to the roster. I've always regarded him as a kind of "shadow" second-stringer: not good enough to start, not versatile enough to earn a roster spot as a backup, but worth retaining for exactly the situation we're in.
The one little twist was that Jones improved enough - and performed well enough against Philly - to make it a no-brainer to keep him in the lineup last night. My guess, though, is that the dropoff from Jones to Gettis (specifically at LG) is smaller than from the typical roster backup to the typical practice squad lineman. Center or RG would be a different story: Jones is a natural center, and Gettis lacks the "sand in his pants" to play the right side.
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who dont see Beatty practice or even know his health condition clamor whine and demand that Will Beatty should be playing.
Jesus Christ shut up
.
No one is clamoring moron, looking at the present situation,
if Jones is out next week. Jesus Christ, learn the game better, before opening your mouth.
I don't want A JAG like Newhouse, or hot garbage like Gettis starting. If other folks do, good for you!
Ill make this very simple for you...
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
I mentioned this, why they signed Beatty makes no sense,
if they just not going to use him in a backup capacity.
Yep, Beatty has yet to play, still think he can play RT.
He has been back for two months or so, and practicing.
He doesn't go to practice and ride a stationery bike.
Gettis has been on the active roster for only two weeks,
so no he has not been playing to answer your question.
People seem to have selective memory, Gettis was pitiful
in preseason, so he played a few plays last night, wow!
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I'll make this very simple for you...
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
Well, Gettis was on the practice squad until last week, so your argument has a bit of a hole. The only regulars he was practicing with were probably the defensive starters, in his role on the scout team.
That said, Gettis is something of a special case. The Giants apparently keep him around as insurance against two things: (1) and injury to Justin Pugh or (2) Pugh moving to tackle because a starter there gets hurt. #1 happened, and Gettis was immediately promoted to the roster. I've always regarded him as a kind of "shadow" second-stringer: not good enough to start, not versatile enough to earn a roster spot as a backup, but worth retaining for exactly the situation we're in.
The one little twist was that Jones improved enough - and performed well enough against Philly - to make it a no-brainer to keep him in the lineup last night. My guess, though, is that the dropoff from Jones to Gettis (specifically at LG) is smaller than from the typical roster backup to the typical practice squad lineman. Center or RG would be a different story: Jones is a natural center, and Gettis lacks the "sand in his pants" to play the right side.
My point being is that he is making physical contact with players and not just doing warm ups
100% Agree on his role but hes not "hot garbage" like fuckstain said above
Whenever someone demands to plug in a player just for the sake of something new . I scream inside and a little part of me dies.
back to work
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In comment 13219120 Rory said:
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who dont see Beatty practice or even know his health condition clamor whine and demand that Will Beatty should be playing.
Jesus Christ shut up
.
No one is clamoring moron, looking at the present situation,
if Jones is out next week. Jesus Christ, learn the game better, before opening your mouth.
I don't want A JAG like Newhouse, or hot garbage like Gettis starting. If other folks do, good for you!
Ill make this very simple for you...
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
I mentioned this, why they signed Beatty makes no sense,
if they just not going to use him in a backup capacity.
Yep, Beatty has yet to play, still think he can play RT.
He has been back for two months or so, and practicing.
He doesn't go to practice and ride a stationery bike.
Gettis has been on the active roster for only two weeks,
so no he has not been playing to answer your question.
People seem to have selective memory, Gettis was pitiful
in preseason, so he played a few plays last night, wow!
please stop talking
100% Agree on his role but hes not "hot garbage" like f*ckstain said above
Whenever someone demands to plug in a player just for the sake of something new . I scream inside and a little part of me dies.
Agreed - we really need to trust the coaches when it comes to which players see the field, and in which roles.
Speaking of which - how abut a little credit for Coach Solari? The team has survived in-game injuries at LG in consecutive weeks, and an old dog (Newhouse) has performed some new tricks capably at TE and guard.
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I'll make this very simple for you...
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
Well, Gettis was on the practice squad until last week, so your argument has a bit of a hole. The only regulars he was practicing with were probably the defensive starters, in his role on the scout team.
That said, Gettis is something of a special case. The Giants apparently keep him around as insurance against two things: (1) and injury to Justin Pugh or (2) Pugh moving to tackle because a starter there gets hurt. #1 happened, and Gettis was immediately promoted to the roster. I've always regarded him as a kind of "shadow" second-stringer: not good enough to start, not versatile enough to earn a roster spot as a backup, but worth retaining for exactly the situation we're in.
The one little twist was that Jones improved enough - and performed well enough against Philly - to make it a no-brainer to keep him in the lineup last night. My guess, though, is that the dropoff from Jones to Gettis (specifically at LG) is smaller than from the typical roster backup to the typical practice squad lineman. Center or RG would be a different story: Jones is a natural center, and Gettis lacks the "sand in his pants" to play the right side.
Using your flawed theory, the starters were spectators to
watch Gettis get his reps, against the defensive starters.
Neither Gettis or Beatty were getting many reps.
I am well aware Jones is a natural center, tell me something
I don't know. Gettis lacks talent, that's why he was cut,
and then brought back to the PS!
On the 9 yd run on 3rd and 6 with 2:50 left in the game to all but seal it:
Entire #Giants OL did well on Jennings' 9-yd run, but blocks by Newhouse (on Geno Atkins) + Richburg (on Vontaze Burfict) were outstanding.
Good to see Richburg with something positive, hopefully it helps him out of his funk.
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In comment 13219168 Carson53 said:
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In comment 13219120 Rory said:
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who dont see Beatty practice or even know his health condition clamor whine and demand that Will Beatty should be playing.
Jesus Christ shut up
.
No one is clamoring moron, looking at the present situation,
if Jones is out next week. Jesus Christ, learn the game better, before opening your mouth.
I don't want A JAG like Newhouse, or hot garbage like Gettis starting. If other folks do, good for you!
Ill make this very simple for you...
True or False? , Will Beatty has yet to play in a single game this year?
True or False , Newhouse & Gettis has been playing in games and practicing with the regulars weekly?
I mentioned this, why they signed Beatty makes no sense,
if they just not going to use him in a backup capacity.
Yep, Beatty has yet to play, still think he can play RT.
He has been back for two months or so, and practicing.
He doesn't go to practice and ride a stationery bike.
Gettis has been on the active roster for only two weeks,
so no he has not been playing to answer your question.
People seem to have selective memory, Gettis was pitiful
in preseason, so he played a few plays last night, wow!
please stop talking
Go back to work, you don't know shit from shiola!
On the 9 yd run on 3rd and 6 with 2:50 left in the game to all but seal it:
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Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 4m4 minutes ago
Entire #Giants OL did well on Jennings' 9-yd run, but blocks by Newhouse (on Geno Atkins) + Richburg (on Vontaze Burfict) were outstanding.
Good to see Richburg with something positive, hopefully it helps him out of his funk.
In high school, does that count? He said it after the game!
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is out with a strained calf this week, I would like to see
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
Very very bad idea. First off, Hart has always been better at RT than at guard. Secondly, Beatty hasn't even played a down this year and hasn't lined up at right tackle since early in his career. Foolish idea.
If ANYTHING, you would move Hart to guard, Newhouse to RT and Beatty can be the extra lineman/TE but even that makes little sense. Keep Hart at RT, if you believe he is your starter and let the Newhouse or Gettis play guard and let Beatty get his feet wet playing blocking TE.
It's not foolish for the short term, what part of short
term don't people understand. Why do I want Newhouse at RT.
Hell, I didn't want him or Jerry as starters.
Do you know that Beatty hasn't seen reps. at practice
at RT, doesn't matter if he hasn't played there in awhile.
Newhouse hadn't played at guard since high school, before
last night, geez! Newhouse can be the extra blocker.
I don't look at a JAG like Newhouse, and say, well since
he did okay last night, let's have him start.
I don't trust the guy as a starter, period!
Ask McAdoo why Beatty hasn't seen the field.
BTW, just because YOU don't agree, doesn't make it foolish.
Just a differing opinion, that's about it!
That's allowed on here, right?
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is out with a strained calf this week, I would like to see
Beatty get off the pines at RT, and move Hart to LG.
They can still use Newhouse in jumbo packages or as an extra
blocker and put Gettis on the bench where he belongs!
I don't want Newhouse or Gettis starting at LG myself.
Very very bad idea. First off, Hart has always been better at RT than at guard. Secondly, Beatty hasn't even played a down this year and hasn't lined up at right tackle since early in his career. Foolish idea.
If ANYTHING, you would move Hart to guard, Newhouse to RT and Beatty can be the extra lineman/TE but even that makes little sense. Keep Hart at RT, if you believe he is your starter and let the Newhouse or Gettis play guard and let Beatty get his feet wet playing blocking TE.
.
It's not foolish for the short term, what part of short
term don't people understand. Why do I want Newhouse at RT.
Hell, I didn't want him or Jerry as starters.
Do you know that Beatty hasn't seen reps. at practice
at RT, doesn't matter if he hasn't played there in awhile.
Newhouse hadn't played at guard since high school, before
last night, geez! Newhouse can be the extra blocker.
I don't look at a JAG like Newhouse, and say, well since
he did okay last night, let's have him start.
I don't trust the guy as a starter, period!
Ask McAdoo why Beatty hasn't seen the field.
BTW, just because YOU don't agree, doesn't make it foolish.
Just a differing opinion, that's about it!
That's allowed on here, right?
no, fuck off