Janoris Jenkins is really good

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but I feel like Jenkins was the best signing of the group and the one I had the least hope for.

team flaws aside (and yeah $$$ helps) but the scouts did a great job identifying players worth laying out big coin for. This team has flaws but I think all in all Reese and Co. had a pretty awesome draft/off-season all things considered.

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In comment 13219761 Rflairr said:

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Where?

...that he gambled too much and consequently gave up too many big plays. Look at how few passing TDs the Giants have allowed this year, with a stopgap free safety and Jenkins covering the top dog pretty regularly.

Jenkins was probably the FA signing that was met with the most resistance from fans. A lot of people thought it was a big time overpay and that the player wasn't that good. He's been outstanding. He's playing the best football of his career right now. And yes, he's better than Josh Norman.

Say what you want about Reese but the man had a pretty damn good offseason. His FA signings are all having major impacts on the team, he has draft picks who are contributing on a weekly basis and even got a hold of a guy like Adams as a UDFA who has filled in admirably since we lost DT.

in St. Louis because their offense was so bad and had a hard time scoring points. Felt he wouldn't have to do that here and therefore no unnecessary gambles on interceptions.

In comment 13219781 arcarsenal said:

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Jenkins was probably the FA signing that was met with the most resistance from fans. A lot of people thought it was a big time overpay and that the player wasn't that good.

this should have been our clue that Jenkins would excel...

In comment 13219781 arcarsenal said:

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Jenkins was probably the FA signing that was met with the most resistance from fans. A lot of people thought it was a big time overpay and that the player wasn't that good. He's been outstanding. He's playing the best football of his career right now. And yes, he's better than Josh Norman.

This! I said it last night. Jenkins is better than Norman and I don't think it's that close, imo. I thought Green owned Norman a couple of weeks back. Granted was injured last night, but I don't think that happened until the play down the sideline in the 4th qtr where he seemed to land wrong. Prior to that, he was still kept in check for the most part.

is one of the main reason why were 6-3.

We can thank Jenkins and Snacks for that. Also add the emergence of Collins and the unexpected improvement at linebacker, with Casillas and Robinson

We can say Vernon is the biggest disappointment out of that FA class, but he's been hindered by a wrist injury for most of the season. He's starting to show signs of coming out of it. So he gets an incomplete from me until we know he's fully healthy.

Some can say without regret, Reese has had an outstanding FA. Add me to that group.

Now, if the offense can figure out a way to put it all together, and start clicking on all cylinders going into the playoffs, we may suprise some people and go deep into the playoffs.

And is certainly quite an upgrade over Prince, even with Prince being a decent player himself.

great last night. Great.

Stop looking at the sack leader listing...

In comment 13219781 arcarsenal said:

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Jenkins was probably the FA signing that was met with the most resistance from fans. A lot of people thought it was a big time overpay and that the player wasn't that good. He's been outstanding. He's playing the best football of his career right now. And yes, he's better than Josh Norman. Say what you want about Reese but the man had a pretty damn good offseason. His FA signings are all having major impacts on the team, he has draft picks who are contributing on a weekly basis and even got a hold of a guy like Adams as a UDFA who has filled in admirably since we lost DT.

Good post.

been really good. So have Snacks and Vernon. I am puzzled why we don't have more sacks, but there were some last night from good pressure. I assume part of this is that Vernon has a busted hand, and JPP of course is missing most of his right hand. It's really a miracle and a testament to their guts that they are playing. They also don't come out, which concerns me because they might get worn down by the end of the season.

So many new parts it would take time to come together. They were much better to start the year over last year and they just keep getting better. Sacks have started to come as well as the picks. The number one red zone defense who saw that coming. Spags called a great game last night, very aggressive even if they didn't get there they sure as shit affected the play. They are winning us games unlike the last couple years where I had zero faith in them

In comment 13219781 arcarsenal said:

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Jenkins was probably the FA signing that was met with the most resistance from fans. A lot of people thought it was a big time overpay and that the player wasn't that good. He's been outstanding. He's playing the best football of his career right now. And yes, he's better than Josh Norman. Say what you want about Reese but the man had a pretty damn good offseason. His FA signings are all having major impacts on the team, he has draft picks who are contributing on a weekly basis and even got a hold of a guy like Adams as a UDFA who has filled in admirably since we lost DT.

Good post Arc.

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been really good. So have Snacks and Vernon. I am puzzled why we don't have more sacks, but there were some last night from good pressure. I assume part of this is that Vernon has a busted hand, and JPP of course is missing most of his right hand. It's really a miracle and a testament to their guts that they are playing. They also don't come out, which concerns me because they might get worn down by the end of the season.

What I'm about to say can easily be addressed by saying, "you can say that about all teams," but as I rewatch the games, I am amazed how thisclose our guys are to finishing off sack attempts..The numbers would certainly be higher, but they are getting far more pressure than I noticed when watching it live..

but OV has been great there too...

In comment 13219787 giant24 said:

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in St. Louis because their offense was so bad and had a hard time scoring points. Felt he wouldn't have to do that here and therefore no unnecessary gambles on interceptions.

Plus nosestache sucks.

He played nothing like this for the Rams. He has been really good.

While I was a fan of Prince, being available each game is a big deal. He is there every week

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Half season to jell under Spags.

Although this is Spags second year of his second stint, most of the players on defense are new to his system.

but from everything I read and from the highlights(low lights?) that they've shown, Jenkins looked pedestrian. Then we gave him a shit ton of money. I never envisioned him this good, but he's really really good. Pretty soon he's going to get national attention and be in the conversation with the best. Not that it means anything, but I feel like most people are really aware of how good he is yet.

They moved on from Prince a #1 pick I don't know if that
was the plan knowing Jenkins would be available ?
They made sure with the big offer and it has paid off .
Jenkins is a playmaker that Prince wasn't .

But it's still collective. Football has and always will be a game of dominoes. When the front ones fall, the rest have no hope of standing.

In comment 13219791 timintey said:

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In comment 13219781 arcarsenal said: Quote: Jenkins was probably the FA signing that was met with the most resistance from fans. A lot of people thought it was a big time overpay and that the player wasn't that good. He's been outstanding. He's playing the best football of his career right now. And yes, he's better than Josh Norman. This! I said it last night. Jenkins is better than Norman and I don't think it's that close, imo. I thought Green owned Norman a couple of weeks back. Granted was injured last night, but I don't think that happened until the play down the sideline in the 4th qtr where he seemed to land wrong. Prior to that, he was still kept in check for the most part.

Yep and after that he didn't have many opportunities anyway. Dalton threw a pick on one drive and got annihilated another drive. He even caught a big pass on a slant. I don't think his injury really made much of a difference considering that and how he was kept in check the rest of the game.

But was DRC's man even targeted last night?


Both of our corners are just terrific at their positions. Just completely erasing the other team's best threat. Would love to see DRC cover the TE on teams that have elite ones like Dallas and Philly.

Yuck. Nauseating.

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But was DRC's man even targeted last night? Both of our corners are just terrific at their positions. Just completely erasing the other team's best threat. Would love to see DRC cover the TE on teams that have elite ones like Dallas and Philly.

Eli Apple ended up playing 100% of the defensive snaps yesterday. He, Collins, and Jenkins the only ones to do so.

Apple was underrated yesterday for shutting them down too. Gotta love the combination of youth, talent, and durability on defense right now...

In comment 13220098 chopperhatch said:

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But was DRC's man even targeted last night? Both of our corners are just terrific at their positions. Just completely erasing the other team's best threat. Would love to see DRC cover the TE on teams that have elite ones like Dallas and Philly.

A couple of Dalton's throws came close to the water cooler...

DRC left with a back injury and only played 14 snaps. Apple played every snap and was barely targeted too.

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The starting cornerbacks pair of Eli Apple and Janoris Jenkins were able to contain the Bengals passing game. Neither CB allowed more than 3.5 yards per target and the longest catch either CB allowed was 14 yards. Both cornerbacks were able to clamp down the Bengals WRs, giving very little room on targets and not allowing the Bengals offense to move the ball.

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Green had just four catches on seven targets for 23 yards when covered by Jenkins, according to Pro Football Focus. Green's 13-yard touchdown catch in the first quarter came in front of Jenkins, who was in zone coverage.

Adams definitely looked like he bit on the play fake on the Green TD and wasn't able to get underneath Green.
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