Leonard Floyd

please read the "Landon Collins" posts from a year ago.

This guy was a wasted pick if there ever was one. And the Giants move UP to get this bust of a player.

2016? - Reese looks like a genius

In comment 13222303 JohnB said:

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please read the "Landon Collins" posts from a year ago. This guy was a wasted pick if there ever was one. And the Giants move UP to get this bust of a player. 2016? - Reese looks like a genius

Yup, unbelievable. Led all rookies in tackles...but who cares he's terrible in coverage even though he's playing out of position..such a bust.

Even without the baggage, we were not taking a LG at #10.

disagree. No way Floyd is a 4-3 lineman. I agree with JonC
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you don't draft a square peg for a round hole at # 10 overall.

Or in the 2nd round even (see Sintim, C.)

Sintim was a Bust at any position just a bad pick period .

He can't play SAM. Sure. You have much smaller guys playing inside and outside LB in the NFL. This isn't 1985. Teams are going for speed/range/coverage. And that's what he gives you.

It's easy to find a full time role for Floyd in any system.

rather have Apple.

this is a SB defense

It is, what it is. I supported cutting Moore at the time but given that Coughlin and Cullen Jenkins are long gone, maybe they should have just suspended him--if that were possible.

Floyd they just missed out on. Fox outfoxed us. No way I blame Giants for not trading up. Sometimes the draft just doesn't go your way--and they still wound up with a good pick in Apple.

to rely on Moore? A couple games in Seattle doesn't reverse several years of mind-numbingly bad decisions on the field.

Apple.

Either man would be third in the lineup (DE or CB). A great DE and/or CB are equally hard to find IMHO. Hard to value 1 position over the other. I have to go with Apple because he's younger which means he could stick for longer and there's more to learn/see from him. Also, they didn't have to give up any extra picks for him.

Holy overrating

Mentions his versatility. His pass rush as down DL. Play MLB and spy the QB Winston. His ability to work stunts. And the consistent pass pressure he provides.

Called him a "more athletic Alison Smith". Not the first time somebody made that comparison. Smiths old defensive coach said the same and mentioned Smith couldn't play in space or cover like Floyd.

Simms is right about the Bears front 7. They're very good. Willie Young is a very good pass rusher. The LBs are super athletic. This game vs CHi isn't a layup for the Giants.
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and Aldon Smith!

but a 4-3 DE needs to be destructive on the edge, that's the core trait I don't see in Floyd's game, in addition to being light in the pants. Aldon Smith is destructive and could most likely play DE in a 4-3, though I'd suggest it's clear his best fit is 3-4 OLB. Still not seeing a significant role at 4-3 OLB for Floyd to warrant top 10 selection, NYG draft resources and second contracts need to go higher up the food chain, imo.