Anyone still think re-signing him was a bad move? If anything, the mistake was not locking him up long-term.
He's playing like a man possessed. I don't care who the opponent was today. What he has done and what he has come back from has been incredible. People on this board said he'd never play football again a year and a half ago. They said he'd never be the same and that it was impossible to play at a competitive level without a normal hand. A lot of people didn't want him back.
The man made a mistake and busted his ass to make the best of it and get himself back on the football field. This is as good as he's ever played. He's in phenomenal shape.
Proud of #90 and what he's been able to do. Pretty amazing story. He has overcome odds that were stacked pretty high against him.
I wont cite the opponent, but the entire line (and defense) was playing very well today. Snacks was just a terror inside. Hankins was up and down the line and Vernon even dropped into coverage today. I am not discrediting his game, but the Browns O had their hands full today with that D line.
But I am in the resign JPP ASAP boat.
A pay cut? I dont think so.
Agreed. The book on him pre-injury was insanely talented but questionable work ethic who wasn't always in great shape. He's grown up a ton since the hand injury and become one of my favorite Giants.
Plenty of people said that about him. There was the case to be made that the back injury he suffered early in his career hindered him, and the label was unfair, but there were plenty of articles questioning his work ethic after his play tailed off after his monster 2nd season.
To his credit, he's now proven anyone saying that wrong about him
Injured his back and gained a little weight and some came up with this book. This idea he's lazy or doesn't work. It wasn't accurate.
Judging a guy by sack numbers is weak. That's what happened. That's the book.
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Good for JPP for proving me and others wrong that he was done after the accident
Agreed. The book on him pre-injury was insanely talented but questionable work ethic who wasn't always in great shape. He's grown up a ton since the hand injury and become one of my favorite Giants.
Yeah, just give us this year and 2011 JPP, with Vernon as the other DE, and that's a pretty sick 1-2 punch. Just need some back ups to get these guys some rest here and there.
Injured his back and gained a little weight and some came up with this book. This idea he's lazy or doesn't work. It wasn't accurate.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to argue - my original post was to give him credit for proven those people wrong
What was your point about the "book" on JPP?
That his play dropped and his wprk ethic was an issue, right? My point was your book and anybody puttting it out there was wrong.
What was your point about the "book" on JPP?
That his play dropped and his wprk ethic was an issue, right? My point was your book and anybody puttting it out there was wrong.
I never said it was my "book". I used to argue with people back in 2012 who claimed he was lazy. Too lazy myself to try and check the archives, but I'm quite sure my posting history from back then would back me up.
I fully admit I was very critical when the news of his fireworks accident first broke, but that was the point of view of "how could he be so careless"?
But I'm now happy he's proven wrong once and for all anyone who ever questioned his work ethic with the way he's come back from that injury.
The one thing he did every year was play hard vs the run or pass. The lazy tag that gets posted here on occasion drives me nuts. I just don't get how anybody can say that about this player.
The one thing he did every year was play hard vs the run or pass. The lazy tag that gets posted here on occasion drives me nuts. I just don't get how anybody can say that about this player.
Maybe saying that was "the book" on him wasn't the right phrase - moreso, that was the chatter from a lot of the writers and fans for a while about him.
To your point, the one thing we've always seen from him is the way he hustles downfield to make tackles. He's often in on tackling a WR or TE after a short/mid range pass, something not many other defensive linemen manage to do
I love watching Hankins who looked like a Bulldozer that
lost its breaks on that play ...
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great for JPP. He took less money to come back too. Lock him up long term.
I missed that, who offered him more?
Zona
I know its easier when your winning, but he looks as happy as I ever recall...
This year he started out with the same type of play and I did start to doubt whether or not he'd be a truly elite pass rusher again (though I did think he was certainly a legit starter who could disrupt a game).
But yeah, he looks to be a Pro Bowl player again. If he keeps going like this he'll certainly be there this year.
Things like this are why you have to be open to giving people second chances. Guys like JPP deserve them and make good on them.
He's getting better every week.