That episode was on fire. I want to know about Billy's fiancé picture and why we saw it earlier in the season. Who put the other picture there that caused this?
Are you sure he knows what he's looking for, or why? As the MiB's connection to the Park gains layers, so do his possible motives. We still don't know for sure that he is William. If he is, to what extent is his search for the Maze propelled by his history with Dolores? How much is driven by his business entanglement with Delos? What's the role of his own personal tragedy outside the Park, which seems to have its origin in his first trip with Logan.
The MiB makes his intentions with finding the maze very clear, mostly through his interactions with Lawrence. He's returned to Westworld for the final time (his own words that this is his last visit and he doesn't intend on leaving) to find the "last page of the story" that he hasn't read yet. He expects this last page, this one story line that Arnold left after his death to be the "real" game. That means real risk on his part- that the host will be able to kill him. He says this multiple times. He even tells Lawrence at one point when Lawrence says that he will kill him, "Not yet you can't." He also somehow understands that the key to this "real" game and the end of the maze is the hosts gaining consciousness, and that it was something Arnold was working on.
He also talks about how he saved the park- this has to have something to do with Arnold being killed and Delores killing everyone- this is more than likely how he finds out about the maze and Arnold's "last narrative".
He's on a suicide mission after the death of his wife- he believes that the park brings out your true self, but the more "real" the experience, the more your true self will be revealed- so he needs the ultimate "real".
As far as Delores=Wyatt...I think that is only in the sense that Ford's new narrative is based on what happened 30yrs ago...Teddy did not necessarily help Delores go on her killing spree...he's just remembering the narrative that Ford implanted in him that's based on "true events" as Ford says.
I'm not sure, but it seems that Ford is hoping for the same that the MiB wants...yet Ford believes that he will still be able to be god because of his "back door". He'll be even more of a god with conscious hosts that only he can control, no? I think that's his end game.
Why did Charlotte interrupt MiB's adventure? Obviously MiB is either a part owner (or why would Charlotte be looking for his approval to oust Ford) or he is a board member, CEO of Delos?
Is he looking for the Maze so he can find how Arnold got killed?
Why did Ford have Bernard kill himself? Does blowing his brains out demolish the processor so that it cannot be rebooted? Does it permanently erase evidence that Ford had Bernard kill Teresa and Elyse? Has to be something along that line since Ford warned Bernard about about consequences for remembering everything. If Charlotte and Teresa were stealing the code from Ford for Delos, why would Ford send Bernard to kill Elyse and how did he know she found the transmitter?
Gots lots more questions than answers.
Ford knew that Elsie found the transmitter because Bernard knew... everything Bernard has experienced, Ford has had access to- except his most recent encounter with Maeve.
It's more real to be a god if your subjects have free choice...but he also believes he will be safe because of his "secret backdoor" to shut them down/control them as needed.
Cam: I'm going to have to go back and watch the whole season... Â
My impression of the Man in Black is that, although he knows almost everything, he was sincere in saying he hasn't "read the last page" yet. Not only has he not played the last level of the game, he's still figuring out what it is because key pieces of the puzzle were witheld. His search for a place along the river where a literal snake lays its eggs suggests that, at the show's outset, he didn't grasp the metaphorical aspects of the Maze. He goes through guides - Leonard, Teddy, Angela - as he finds the limits of their knowledge and usefulness.
I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think he really gets the Maze until he's standing face-to-face with Dolores in that church - assuming that scene is even real. Why is he satisfied at the end of Episode 9? It's not just finding Dolores - he can see his old flame in Sweetwater any time, and woo her, rape her, kill her - whatever he likes. It's seeing her here - on the threshold of sentience, where she can know him as William - that represents the next level of the game.
the MIB was never shown with the photo of William's fiance, right? That was an incorrect statement?
So it's not confirmed that they are the same person?
True, but it would be a pretty wicked twist at this point if they aren't the same person. I won't reel off all the clues from nine episodes. Just rewind a few minutes, and watch Dolores's lips right before the church doors swing open. She almost unmistakably whispers "William", then is shocked when Ed Harris walks in. Now, you could say she freaks because she's expecting a long-lost lover (the real one, not the fake back-story implant, Teddy) and instead gets her evil memesis. But I think it's even worse: she expects a long-lost lover, and realizes that he is her evil nemesis.
Sign me up for the theory that the MiB has been gradually shocking Dolores into sentience through pain, essentially finishing (or repeating) Arnold's work for his own purposes.
While it's clear that the MiB intends to die in the park, that doesn't mean he wants it to happen soon, or even that death is a goal in itself. If he's William - and he almost certainly is - I think committing permanently to the park and to Dolores is his way of embracing his true self. She may awaken and embrace him, or awaken and kill him. Either way, her awakening is the last page of the book. Which, by the way, is how Alice's Adventures in Wonderland ends too.
It was strongly implied in The Stray. The Woodcutter erased himself by smashing his own skull.
Of course, Bernard might have been built from an earlier, more "elegant" design, when host anatomy didn't imitate the human model so closely.
The MiB makes his intentions with finding the maze very clear, mostly through his interactions with Lawrence. He's returned to Westworld for the final time (his own words that this is his last visit and he doesn't intend on leaving) to find the "last page of the story" that he hasn't read yet. He expects this last page, this one story line that Arnold left after his death to be the "real" game. That means real risk on his part- that the host will be able to kill him. He says this multiple times. He even tells Lawrence at one point when Lawrence says that he will kill him, "Not yet you can't." He also somehow understands that the key to this "real" game and the end of the maze is the hosts gaining consciousness, and that it was something Arnold was working on.
He also talks about how he saved the park- this has to have something to do with Arnold being killed and Delores killing everyone- this is more than likely how he finds out about the maze and Arnold's "last narrative".
He's on a suicide mission after the death of his wife- he believes that the park brings out your true self, but the more "real" the experience, the more your true self will be revealed- so he needs the ultimate "real".
As far as Delores=Wyatt...I think that is only in the sense that Ford's new narrative is based on what happened 30yrs ago...Teddy did not necessarily help Delores go on her killing spree...he's just remembering the narrative that Ford implanted in him that's based on "true events" as Ford says.
I'm not sure, but it seems that Ford is hoping for the same that the MiB wants...yet Ford believes that he will still be able to be god because of his "back door". He'll be even more of a god with conscious hosts that only he can control, no? I think that's his end game.
Is he looking for the Maze so he can find how Arnold got killed?
Why did Ford have Bernard kill himself? Does blowing his brains out demolish the processor so that it cannot be rebooted? Does it permanently erase evidence that Ford had Bernard kill Teresa and Elyse? Has to be something along that line since Ford warned Bernard about about consequences for remembering everything. If Charlotte and Teresa were stealing the code from Ford for Delos, why would Ford send Bernard to kill Elyse and how did he know she found the transmitter?
Gots lots more questions than answers.
Ford knew that Elsie found the transmitter because Bernard knew... everything Bernard has experienced, Ford has had access to- except his most recent encounter with Maeve.
I think he wants to be a god.
It's more real to be a god if your subjects have free choice...but he also believes he will be safe because of his "secret backdoor" to shut them down/control them as needed.
My impression of the Man in Black is that, although he knows almost everything, he was sincere in saying he hasn't "read the last page" yet. Not only has he not played the last level of the game, he's still figuring out what it is because key pieces of the puzzle were witheld. His search for a place along the river where a literal snake lays its eggs suggests that, at the show's outset, he didn't grasp the metaphorical aspects of the Maze. He goes through guides - Leonard, Teddy, Angela - as he finds the limits of their knowledge and usefulness.
I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think he really gets the Maze until he's standing face-to-face with Dolores in that church - assuming that scene is even real. Why is he satisfied at the end of Episode 9? It's not just finding Dolores - he can see his old flame in Sweetwater any time, and woo her, rape her, kill her - whatever he likes. It's seeing her here - on the threshold of sentience, where she can know him as William - that represents the next level of the game.
So its not confirmed that they are the same person?
So it's not confirmed that they are the same person?
Sign me up for the theory that the MiB has been gradually shocking Dolores into sentience through pain, essentially finishing (or repeating) Arnold's work for his own purposes.
While it's clear that the MiB intends to die in the park, that doesn't mean he wants it to happen soon, or even that death is a goal in itself. If he's William - and he almost certainly is - I think committing permanently to the park and to Dolores is his way of embracing his true self. She may awaken and embrace him, or awaken and kill him. Either way, her awakening is the last page of the book. Which, by the way, is how Alice's Adventures in Wonderland ends too.
Yeah, this seems highly unlikely
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How is Delores Wyatt?
Yeah, this seems highly unlikely
Welp I was sure wrong about that