But he's been fucking terrible so far. Maybe out of shape due to nagging injuries, but he's useless on offense and got just abused by a couple JAGs on defense and the boards tonight.
kncks were up 11 and rolling and he came in and just chuckdd up shots, loss is solely on him
As you or someone posted earlier, once Westbrook got going, looked like Melo gave up on playing some team basketball to try and play the hero game. I've tried to defend Melo many times over his Knicks tenure, but it's really becoming clear his ego is too big to let this team grow up around him
all these criticisms of the Knicks are valid - but what about Â
Westbrook? He's got a legit shot at averaging a triple double for the season the way he's going. That's only been done once before:
"In the 1961–62 season, Robertson became the only player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire season, with 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists."
To me, that would be up there with, say, challenging Joe D's 56 game hitting streak, or flirting with batting .400. It's pretty amazing. Westbrook is playing like a man possessed.
Again - not to excuse the Knicks' flaws tonight ...
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
RE: all these criticisms of the Knicks are valid - but what about Â
Westbrook? He's got a legit shot at averaging a triple double for the season the way he's going. That's only been done once before:
"In the 1961–62 season, Robertson became the only player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire season, with 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists."
To me, that would be up there with, say, challenging Joe D's 56 game hitting streak, or flirting with batting .400. It's pretty amazing. Westbrook is playing like a man possessed.
Again - not to excuse the Knicks' flaws tonight ...
No doubt, possessed is the right description for his game tonight. And he really does make everyone around him better
RE: all these criticisms of the Knicks are valid - but what about Â
Westbrook? He's got a legit shot at averaging a triple double for the season the way he's going. That's only been done once before:
"In the 1961–62 season, Robertson became the only player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire season, with 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists."
To me, that would be up there with, say, challenging Joe D's 56 game hitting streak, or flirting with batting .400. It's pretty amazing. Westbrook is playing like a man possessed.
Again - not to excuse the Knicks' flaws tonight ...
westbrook is just unbelievable, like harden he is their entire team, when he goes out they have nothing...
i thiught rose did the best job he could on him and then lee in the 4th did not play him bad, knicks just could not grab a rebound
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure about doing the trade and walsh ignored dolan and dantoni and did the trade...
second melo was the one who told dantoni to play lin, as much as dantoni wants everyone to think otherwise...
also melo did not run lin out of town, it was him going back to houston and getting a bigger deal out of houston and him making a business decision in the playoffs and deciding not to play...
walsh screwed up the knicks woth his moves prior to 2010, not the melo trade
I had no illusions about Noah being anything but useless offensively Â
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
I don't know about all fans, but I think a lot of us would love to see Melo turn out to be a winner. I had no problem giving him credit for his monster game Friday night when we won.
It just sucks to see so much potential with the youth and athletic ability this team has now, and see long stretches where Melo doesn't seem to want to play team basketball and kills tempo
Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants
finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure about doing the trade and walsh ignored dolan and dantoni and did the trade...
second melo was the one who told dantoni to play lin, as much as dantoni wants everyone to think otherwise...
also melo did not run lin out of town, it was him going back to houston and getting a bigger deal out of houston and him making a business decision in the playoffs and deciding not to play...
walsh screwed up the knicks woth his moves prior to 2010, not the melo trade
I'll only agree with Lin taking that poison pill deal from Houston
Other than that Walsh and Dantoni had this team playing fun basketball and had draft picks and salary cap freedom until the Melo trade
Walsh was NOT on board. It was all Dolan
Walsh was on the right track You should know better than that
Gallinari. Chandler were both players. Mozgiv was young and big and the Knicks had cap space and draft picks
You are just starting to admit that Melo is holding this team back and is not as great as you use to claim he is
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In comment 13238987 Earl the goat said:
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Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants
finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure about doing the trade and walsh ignored dolan and dantoni and did the trade...
second melo was the one who told dantoni to play lin, as much as dantoni wants everyone to think otherwise...
also melo did not run lin out of town, it was him going back to houston and getting a bigger deal out of houston and him making a business decision in the playoffs and deciding not to play...
walsh screwed up the knicks woth his moves prior to 2010, not the melo trade
I'll only agree with Lin taking that poison pill deal from Houston
Other than that Walsh and Dantoni had this team playing fun basketball and had draft picks and salary cap freedom until the Melo trade
Walsh was NOT on board. It was all Dolan
Walsh was on the right track You should know better than that
Gallinari. Chandler were both players. Mozgiv was young and big and the Knicks had cap space and draft picks
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
His help defense is nice but he too was bad on man to man defense and got crushed on the boards. Kanter absolutely manhandled him on the boards when he came in grabbed 12 rebounds while KP finished with 5 rebounds. That can't happen. Noah is just as bad but IMO he is close to done.
Hornacek briefly talked about how our bigs need to get mean and play mean even if they are getting shoved in the back.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
His help defense is nice but he too was bad on man to man defense and got crushed on the boards. Kanter absolutely manhandled him on the boards when he came in grabbed 12 rebounds while KP finished with 5 rebounds. That can't happen. Noah is just as bad but IMO he is close to done.
Hornacek briefly talked about how our bigs need to get mean and play mean even if they are getting shoved in the back.
He's in his second year. Melo is in his 14th. One gets more leeway as far as completeness of game is concerned.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
His help defense is nice but he too was bad on man to man defense and got crushed on the boards. Kanter absolutely manhandled him on the boards when he came in grabbed 12 rebounds while KP finished with 5 rebounds. That can't happen. Noah is just as bad but IMO he is close to done.
Hornacek briefly talked about how our bigs need to get mean and play mean even if they are getting shoved in the back.
He's in his second year. Melo is in his 14th. One gets more leeway as far as completeness of game is concerned.
Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants
finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure
I'll only agree with Lin taking that poison pill deal from Houston
Other than that Walsh and Dantoni had this team playing fun basketball and had draft picks and salary cap freedom until the Melo trade
Walsh was NOT on board. It was all Dolan
Walsh was on the right track You should know better than that
Gallinari. Chandler were both players. Mozgiv was young and big and the Knicks had cap space and draft picks
you are wrong, walsh already admitted he did the deal against the wishes of dolan and dantoni...
he admitted this the other day in an interview, he was the sole reason for the melo deal
Due to how he's had to shoulder the load for the team over the past 6 years. He had one of his best games on Friday, shit the bed Saturday and looked like he wanted to make up for it tonight. Hornacek needs to talk to him and tell him at moments like these, he needs to be Olympic Melo and let Rose, KP and whoever else set him up to get his shot going. Despite his shit play, he looks to have already developed some nice chemistry with Hernangorgeous on the PnR.
Noah is STILL in recovery mode it seems, trying to get his legs back. Just look at his FTs. Despite his igly ass shot, he's a career 71% shooter from the stripe. What's he at this year? 30%? It'll come back to him - I just think the illness set him back a bit, but I think he can still be super effective. As of last week, he was at career highs as far as per-36 numbers, and the disparity in overall team play was big time in his favor when he was on the court vs off the court.
Does Melo even attack the basket now? 95% of his shots are from the Â
perimeter. When he's cold, he's pretty much useless, someone has to remind him to facilitate more. The problem is he is fixated on getting a rhythem going rather than setting up others when he's cold. He's shot us into and out of games plenty of times, before we didn't have a choice but that's no longer the case. What's worse is that he doesn't seem to care, furthermore he'd exacerbate things by not hustling on defense and allowing easy baskets.
I used to be a fan, now I say trade him if we can.
They get raped on the glass, give up 112 points, Â
as Westbrook is probably the best PG in the NBA but a majority of the Knicks defensive issues stem from the inability of rose to play effective pick and roll defense.
https://youtu.be/XLoX6CErQoA
Yes I know those are highlights which only show the plays Westbrook made but this fits the "eye test" from what I see from Rose on the defensive end. If the goal is to make noise in the playoffs Rose will have to matchup against the likes of Kyrie, Thomas, Kemba and Lowry.
The fact that no one on the court understands rotations doesn't help, but rose is pretty horrendous in his own right on defense.
But I suppose people will continue to believe what they want to believe.
Westbrook put a little saddle on the entire Knicks team and rode them around the arena - celebrating his greatness.
Someone should have nailed him going to the hoop, not dirty not cheap, just a hard body foul. He had no problem putting his shoulder into Knick players.
Playing Noah allows defenders to double-team the ball Â
Noah does not require a defender. This will kill the Knicks all year. Suddenly, the Knicks have no offensive center, unless either Hernangomez learns the NBA really fast, or they move KP to center and play Lee and Melo at forward.
that no one get's a pass - just like school ball, AAU, college
et.
Those who are not running the teams offense and are stinking up the joint need to sit.
Seems like he was afraid to take Melo out on Saturday and Melo was clearly tired and way off, and last night when the ball movement and momentum died with Melo he should have been shown the bench.
In his defense he's a shitty shooter behind the arc.
You gotta hope Noah just doesn't have his legs under him yet because he really was not able to make plays tonight.
Kooz and Hernangomez along with KP makes a formidable front court
And Holiday should start as small guard. He's a sit down defender with a nice stroke
Kooz and Hernangomez along with KP makes a formidable front court
And Holiday should start as small guard. He's a sit down defender with a nice stroke
We can dream, can't we?
Sad that a trade is likelier to get Melo off the court.
As you or someone posted earlier, once Westbrook got going, looked like Melo gave up on playing some team basketball to try and play the hero game. I've tried to defend Melo many times over his Knicks tenure, but it's really becoming clear his ego is too big to let this team grow up around him
"In the 1961–62 season, Robertson became the only player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire season, with 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists."
To me, that would be up there with, say, challenging Joe D's 56 game hitting streak, or flirting with batting .400. It's pretty amazing. Westbrook is playing like a man possessed.
Again - not to excuse the Knicks' flaws tonight ...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
"In the 1961–62 season, Robertson became the only player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire season, with 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists."
To me, that would be up there with, say, challenging Joe D's 56 game hitting streak, or flirting with batting .400. It's pretty amazing. Westbrook is playing like a man possessed.
Again - not to excuse the Knicks' flaws tonight ...
No doubt, possessed is the right description for his game tonight. And he really does make everyone around him better
"In the 1961–62 season, Robertson became the only player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire season, with 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds and 11.4 assists."
To me, that would be up there with, say, challenging Joe D's 56 game hitting streak, or flirting with batting .400. It's pretty amazing. Westbrook is playing like a man possessed.
Again - not to excuse the Knicks' flaws tonight ...
westbrook is just unbelievable, like harden he is their entire team, when he goes out they have nothing...
i thiught rose did the best job he could on him and then lee in the 4th did not play him bad, knicks just could not grab a rebound
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
Quote:
he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure about doing the trade and walsh ignored dolan and dantoni and did the trade...
second melo was the one who told dantoni to play lin, as much as dantoni wants everyone to think otherwise...
also melo did not run lin out of town, it was him going back to houston and getting a bigger deal out of houston and him making a business decision in the playoffs and deciding not to play...
walsh screwed up the knicks woth his moves prior to 2010, not the melo trade
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he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
I don't know about all fans, but I think a lot of us would love to see Melo turn out to be a winner. I had no problem giving him credit for his monster game Friday night when we won.
It just sucks to see so much potential with the youth and athletic ability this team has now, and see long stretches where Melo doesn't seem to want to play team basketball and kills tempo
Quote:
Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants
finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure about doing the trade and walsh ignored dolan and dantoni and did the trade...
second melo was the one who told dantoni to play lin, as much as dantoni wants everyone to think otherwise...
also melo did not run lin out of town, it was him going back to houston and getting a bigger deal out of houston and him making a business decision in the playoffs and deciding not to play...
walsh screwed up the knicks woth his moves prior to 2010, not the melo trade
I'll only agree with Lin taking that poison pill deal from Houston
Other than that Walsh and Dantoni had this team playing fun basketball and had draft picks and salary cap freedom until the Melo trade
Walsh was NOT on board. It was all Dolan
Walsh was on the right track You should know better than that
Gallinari. Chandler were both players. Mozgiv was young and big and the Knicks had cap space and draft picks
You are just starting to admit that Melo is holding this team back and is not as great as you use to claim he is
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In comment 13238987 Earl the goat said:
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Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants
finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure about doing the trade and walsh ignored dolan and dantoni and did the trade...
second melo was the one who told dantoni to play lin, as much as dantoni wants everyone to think otherwise...
also melo did not run lin out of town, it was him going back to houston and getting a bigger deal out of houston and him making a business decision in the playoffs and deciding not to play...
walsh screwed up the knicks woth his moves prior to 2010, not the melo trade
I'll only agree with Lin taking that poison pill deal from Houston
Other than that Walsh and Dantoni had this team playing fun basketball and had draft picks and salary cap freedom until the Melo trade
Walsh was NOT on board. It was all Dolan
Walsh was on the right track You should know better than that
Gallinari. Chandler were both players. Mozgiv was young and big and the Knicks had cap space and draft picks
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In comment 13238960 nygiants16 said:
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he begged for help and he finally has it, rose and kp were playing great the ball movement was great and he was shooting well then all of sudden he switched and tried to take over...
i dont understand why he just cant take a step back when the team is rolling, he should love it, he finally has help
Because when they fail he gets blamed no matter what.
Knicks win we celebrate and praise KP.
Knicks lose we condemn and blame Melo.
He is the big money guy even though he has now has a bunch of money guys on the team.
Knicks fans are funny that way. They did the same thing with Ewing. Even Hahn said KP should enjoy this period now because there will become a time when the crowd starts booing and moaning at him when his shots aren't falling. Right now he is still the shiny new toy for us.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
His help defense is nice but he too was bad on man to man defense and got crushed on the boards. Kanter absolutely manhandled him on the boards when he came in grabbed 12 rebounds while KP finished with 5 rebounds. That can't happen. Noah is just as bad but IMO he is close to done.
Hornacek briefly talked about how our bigs need to get mean and play mean even if they are getting shoved in the back.
To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
His help defense is nice but he too was bad on man to man defense and got crushed on the boards. Kanter absolutely manhandled him on the boards when he came in grabbed 12 rebounds while KP finished with 5 rebounds. That can't happen. Noah is just as bad but IMO he is close to done.
Hornacek briefly talked about how our bigs need to get mean and play mean even if they are getting shoved in the back.
He's in his second year. Melo is in his 14th. One gets more leeway as far as completeness of game is concerned.
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To be fair to KP, he actually tries to play defense and pass the ball.
His help defense is nice but he too was bad on man to man defense and got crushed on the boards. Kanter absolutely manhandled him on the boards when he came in grabbed 12 rebounds while KP finished with 5 rebounds. That can't happen. Noah is just as bad but IMO he is close to done.
Hornacek briefly talked about how our bigs need to get mean and play mean even if they are getting shoved in the back.
He's in his second year. Melo is in his 14th. One gets more leeway as far as completeness of game is concerned.
I said he is the shiny new toy right now.
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In comment 13238987 Earl the goat said:
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Has always been a selfish self appointed superstar never living up to expectatations. Donnie Walsh was smart enough not to trade for him but Dolan vetoed him. Jeremy Lin was like the Giants
finding Victor Cruz as an undrafted FA but Melo so called ran him and Dantoni out of town
Melos place was always as the second star on a team He could never lead a team by himself cause he doesn't play defense and can't take over a game
Now that he has help with Rose and KP he's still selfish enough to outshoot the Knicks out of most games
I know it could be difficult to trade him which for 5 years I've been hoping for but I hope Hornacek won't be afraid to put his selfish ass on the bench as the second team
I've vented enough tonight
absolutely none of that is true...
forst off dolan said to walsh that he was not sure
I'll only agree with Lin taking that poison pill deal from Houston
Other than that Walsh and Dantoni had this team playing fun basketball and had draft picks and salary cap freedom until the Melo trade
Walsh was NOT on board. It was all Dolan
Walsh was on the right track You should know better than that
Gallinari. Chandler were both players. Mozgiv was young and big and the Knicks had cap space and draft picks
you are wrong, walsh already admitted he did the deal against the wishes of dolan and dantoni...
he admitted this the other day in an interview, he was the sole reason for the melo deal
Noah is STILL in recovery mode it seems, trying to get his legs back. Just look at his FTs. Despite his igly ass shot, he's a career 71% shooter from the stripe. What's he at this year? 30%? It'll come back to him - I just think the illness set him back a bit, but I think he can still be super effective. As of last week, he was at career highs as far as per-36 numbers, and the disparity in overall team play was big time in his favor when he was on the court vs off the court.
I used to be a fan, now I say trade him if we can.
How the fuck does Joakim Noah grab ZERO defensive rebounds while playing 26 minutes? He was an abomination late in the 4th quarter.
That's like Brook Lopez-esque. Pathetic
https://youtu.be/XLoX6CErQoA
Yes I know those are highlights which only show the plays Westbrook made but this fits the "eye test" from what I see from Rose on the defensive end. If the goal is to make noise in the playoffs Rose will have to matchup against the likes of Kyrie, Thomas, Kemba and Lowry.
The fact that no one on the court understands rotations doesn't help, but rose is pretty horrendous in his own right on defense.
But I suppose people will continue to believe what they want to believe.
Someone should have nailed him going to the hoop, not dirty not cheap, just a hard body foul. He had no problem putting his shoulder into Knick players.
crowder and brooklyns 1st is a deal i would do in a second...
melo right now just doesnt seem to want to take a step back and play off the ball..
last night rose was hot and melo continued to take the ball up the court..
crowder and brooklyns 1st is a deal i would do in a second...
melo right now just doesnt seem to want to take a step back and play off the ball..
last night rose was hot and melo continued to take the ball up the court..
I would 100% not do that if I were Boston.
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but i wish he would go to boston, they are desperate for a name superstar...
crowder and brooklyns 1st is a deal i would do in a second...
melo right now just doesnt seem to want to take a step back and play off the ball..
last night rose was hot and melo continued to take the ball up the court..
I would 100% not do that if I were Boston.
it was rumored that that was the package boston offered but it never went anywhere because melo said no ..
and ainge is desperate he is going to make a stupid trade soon
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Those who are not running the teams offense and are stinking up the joint need to sit.
Seems like he was afraid to take Melo out on Saturday and Melo was clearly tired and way off, and last night when the ball movement and momentum died with Melo he should have been shown the bench.
Two set's of rules never work.