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Not his best game, but he threw for three touchdowns, no interceptions, was picture perfect on a number of throws, and had a 115 QB rating.

Some of those throws were downright awful, some were just perfect. My guess is that part of the plan was to go deep often enough to back the safeties out, maybe Eli was just playing it safe on some of those but the throws to Roger Lewis were head scratchingly bad.

this year. I'd love to see a RB for this team gain 100 yards so it would open things up a little more for him. Wish he had the time to throw like other QB's in the league.

Don't get why they went deep to Lewis three times but none really to OBJ or Shepard.

The pass early on that missed to Beckham was not a first read so I don't include that. It was behind him but it was also a catch Haden was right in his grill and wasn't looking back at the ball. No flag, though.

Manning missed Beckham on the first drive deep...it should have been a 50+ yard TD.

on the same page .. I think getting Pugh back this week should
help . They also went back to the 11 offense formation I
am not sure why but beside the end around the offense was
about as predictable as it could be ..
I hope somehow the Playbook opens up for the stretch run the
offense on Sunday is not going to get it done especially
this week .

as bob papa says stats are for losers. I don't care what his QB rating was he did not throw the ball well. No zip on the ball. I love him as a player and believe he should make the Hall of Fame when he retires but right now he is starting to look old. No one is tougher or runs their team any better but watching Eli throughout his career, he did not throw the ball as well as I'm use to. Especially outside the numbers. I'm not looking to replace him but the clock is clicking and we should try to take advantage of him now. We are going to miss him big time when he is gone. the long ball use to be his strength now because of the limited time he has to throw or father time he is not throwing it nearly as well.

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Guys, relax and let it happen!

The Vikings wrote the book on how to play us (2 deep safeties, take away the quick slant game), and every team we've played since is playing the same way.

They're all daring us to run the ball, and we can't do it consistently. On several plays, defenses really only have 6 guys right in the box against us, and we can't make them pay for it.

Eli is taking a lot of low percentage deep shots on the outside bc that's where he's finding one on one matchups our WRs have a chance to win.

I do agree that Eli doesn't trust the OL to give him enough time consistently, so is rushing some of his throws.

The one play where he did show patience was OBJ's first TD - they had the slant to OBJ covered early, but the line gave Eli time to wait until he got open over the middle, then Eli hit him right in stride so he could turn on the jets and take it to the house.

But overall, doing some damage in the running game is really what would allow Eli and the offense to open up the high percentage part of the passing game.

Where the defender batted it away, eli was hit as he threw it. The other 2 to Lewis were bad throws and of course thr miss to OBJ.

In comment 13238981 Alan in Toledo said:

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of BBIers striving to be relevant. Guys, relax and let it happen!

Ahhh yes! BBI relevance... the pinnacle !

has he had in the last 7 years that would make you think it's just his arm that is shaky? SF playoff game of 2011?
35 year old QB thats often a 1/2 step from being planted and about .3 of a second before WRs can complete their routes.
Sure, some is his arm, judgement, but right now its just survival.
You can thank JR for ignoring an aging OL for 5 years then trying to do it with 'projects'like Brewer, then undersized , 'technique' guys or a 'good feet' LT that cant get out of his stance fast enough to do more than feel the breeze of a DE that blows by him(and I love EF, as a RT or G).

that throw to Cruz was a thing of beauty

but Eli will look sloppy again and do just enough to beat the Steelers.

is throwing to Lewis in the first place....

I think he was targeted 5X's, caught one....the one he caught, he was open in a zone defense.....the other four, in man coverage, he had no separation.....and yet, SS gets no targets....

Lewis is a one trick pony.....his breaks are rounded off, not sharp......

He needs to work on his grip strength

he has been up/down all season and during games....You look at the two throws to Harris and Cruz, on the money.....and then you look at the first two throws to OBj and those two consecutive one's to Lewis and you shake your head...

Part of it is the conservative play calling.....

The Browns make it a 7 point game in the fourth, and then all of a sudden, the offense flips a switch and drives downfield....

As for that td pass to OBj, where he cuts underneath across the field, that is a play that has been killing our defense all season....guess they figured if it works against us, why not use it....

he had a few rocky performances early in the year, but during the 6 game win strak, he has accounted for 83% of our TDs and has made clutch throw after clutch throw.

stats are for losers and then ramble incoherently about not having "zip" on the ball and looking "terrible".

How did the throws to Cruz and Harris look?

I can't for the life of me figure out who looks up at the giants at 8-3 and thinks to themselves, "Hmm. Seems like a good day to start a thread with a shitty title and rip the QB".

throws a bunch of big passes perfectly, a duck here and there and, of course, the occasional brain-fart like the one into the sun that almost got picked off on our 10 yard line.

That's Eli Manning...

watching the stark contrast in Rodgers running this offense vs. Eli running it.

Rodgers just does everything so quickly and smooth. Constantly running for 1st downs like a true WCO QB. Every fly pattern is right on the money.

But at the end of the day, Eli is a winner and manages to somehow win these games despite only making a handful of throws and generally being inaccurate with the football.

As Matt Millen pointed out, the Giants are probably the strangest 7-3 (now 8-3) team you'll ever see. After the last few years I'm just glad we're winning again, but I do believe Eli is hurt, or is losing arm strength. That's the 1st thing to "go" is the deep ball and the ability to really drive it.

In comment 13239228 area junc said:

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watching the stark contrast in Rodgers running this offense vs. Eli running it. Rodgers just does everything so quickly and smooth. Constantly running for 1st downs like a true WCO QB. Every fly pattern is right on the money. But at the end of the day, Eli is a winner and manages to somehow win these games despite only making a handful of throws and generally being inaccurate with the football. As Matt Millen pointed out, the Giants are probably the strangest 7-3 (now 8-3) team you'll ever see. After the last few years I'm just glad we're winning again, but I do believe Eli is hurt, or is losing arm strength. That's the 1st thing to "go" is the deep ball and the ability to really drive it.

The biggest problem with Rodgers this year is that he isn't acting quickly. Have you not watched him sit in the pocket for 5-7 seconds on multiple plays before finally pulling the trigger? That's one of the main reasons they've been struggling this year - there are throws there and Rodgers is too gun shy to take them.

and it's the type of uneven performance we've seen often from Eli this season. On the whole, he's been very good. At times, it does look like there are signs to be seen if you choose to recognize them, imv.

In comment 13239222 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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stats are for losers and then ramble incoherently about not having "zip" on the ball and looking "terrible". How did the throws to Cruz and Harris look? I can't for the life of me figure out who looks up at the giants at 8-3 and thinks to themselves, "Hmm. Seems like a good day to start a thread with a shitty title and rip the QB".

Here's a stat for all the losers. 8-3. You are what your record says you are.

In comment 13239237 JonC said:

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and it's the type of uneven performance we've seen often from Eli this season. On the whole, he's been very good. At times, it does look like there are signs to be seen if you choose to recognize them, imv.

right now, the Giants lack an intermediate passing game due to the coverages that they are seeing. Not many corner, digs, or even post routes in the middle of the field. So right now you get a lot of quick slants, stops, or fade patterns. And outside of OBJ, we have been inconsistent on deep patterns whether its getting separation, drops, or a misfire.

The miss to OBJ in the first quarter was a really bad throw. However, the other 2 guys we throw deep too are an undrafted free agent and a slow WR who hasnt played in 2 years. Not exactly dream options. This offense could use a tight end in the worst way to occupy the middle of the field.

Eli could use intermediate targets to help diversify the route options, and at times his mechanics break down when he's feeling pass rush pressure.