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NGT: Philly is done as far as we are concerned

bignygfan : 11/29/2016 10:42 am
We are up three games on them with 5 left. They probably can't catch us and if they do, it'll be because we had a complete collapse. They maybe could still get a wild-card spot but not ours.

One thing I'll say is having all three division home games in the final four weeks did not help them at all. Silly not to have played one before December.
jinx  
Jimmy Googs : 11/29/2016 10:49 am : link
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They could still spoil our season  
Geomon : 11/29/2016 11:04 am : link
As far as I'm concerned, we need to win every game.
listening to the fan in philly this am  
mattlawson : 11/29/2016 11:05 am : link
has been fun
We've had....  
HoustonGiant : 11/29/2016 11:09 am : link
those collapses before.
I want them buried by the time we play them.  
Bramton1 : 11/29/2016 11:12 am : link
I don't want them giving a shit at that point!
Not done  
BurlyMan : 11/29/2016 11:14 am : link
Five weeks is an eternity.
They have their Super Bowl coming up......  
WideRight : 11/29/2016 11:24 am : link
Thursday December 22nd. 8:30pm

That's all that matters to them. After that they are done.
Philly may have limited playoff prospects...  
Dunedin81 : 11/29/2016 11:28 am : link
but they can still play spoiler for us. Don't count them out.
Aint over til its over  
Giantology : 11/29/2016 11:29 am : link
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I personally need the Eagles to show up against the Skins ...  
Boy Cord : 11/29/2016 11:48 am : link
... and then fold up against the Giants. It's all part of my master plan to get the Giants in the playoffs and keep the Skins and Eagles at home.

Sheehan and Cooley on DC radio think the Skins get in the playoffs at 9-6-1. They also think it's highly likely the Giants finish at 9-7. Not on my watch. They can take the Skins schedule lightly, but that would be foolish. There is nothing more dangerous than a team with its back against the wall:

@AZ - AZ has one breath left and it's at home. Back to the wall.

@Philly - If Philly beats Cincy, they have life as well. Back to the wall.

Caro - Caro can still score and the Skins defense is average. Hopefully Caro gets LK back on defense.

@Chi - I've got nothing. As far as I am concerned, the Skins are guaranteed at least seven wins.

Giants - Toughest game on their schedule. Offense meet defense.
I would think a Giants fan would know better than to write them off  
Greg from LI : 11/29/2016 11:50 am : link
God knows those sonsofbitches have ruined things for us enough in the past.
Boy Cord  
Greg from LI : 11/29/2016 11:51 am : link
Listening to the Redskins fans, they're the first 6-4-1 juggernaut in the history of the league.
they are certainly in position to screw up the Giants season  
Victor in CT : 11/29/2016 12:01 pm : link
on December 22. History is on their side in that regard.

I'll repeat: no game is a gimme, no team is a pushover for the Giants. They must fight and scrape on every play.
Stick a fork in them  
bigfish703 : 11/29/2016 12:31 pm : link
The Philly steaks are done.They will have nothing to play for by the time they meet the Giants, and that is good for us.
Sinking fast  
5BowlsSoon : 11/29/2016 12:45 pm : link
And to think so many people believed their offense would march up and down the field like Washington did. Hello people, Wentz ain't no Cousins. Ertz ain't no Reed; jMathhews ain't no DJaxkson; smallwood ain't no Kelley.

I know they have some injuries too, but the players out there yesterday were pathetic.
The  
mdthedream : 11/29/2016 12:47 pm : link
Eagles just don't look the same. The QB is struggling to get the ball down field and there running game is a mess. The defense is not the same as well. They have been figured out and its not working anymore.
Giants' next two games are at Pitt and home  
mikeinbloomfield : 11/29/2016 12:48 pm : link
against Dallas. Next two games for Philly are Bengals away and Redskins at home. They could lose both of those, but I wouldn't argue they have the tougher schedule. They could be a game behind with two to play (and one against the Giants) real quick.

We'll know a lot come Sunday. Given how tough the rest of the schedule is, Pitt might be the most winnable game. Everything changes if the Giants win the next two. The eagles will be out of it by the time the Giants play them, and Washington might be as well.
I wonder if there was a Redskins thread  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/29/2016 1:16 pm : link
this time last year.
They were 5-6  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/29/2016 1:17 pm : link
Same as Philly is now.
RE: Boy Cord  
Boy Cord : 11/29/2016 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13239579 Greg from LI said:
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Listening to the Redskins fans, they're the first 6-4-1 juggernaut in the history of the league.


That's how that fan base rolls. They would be pissing their pants right now if the Panthers and Cardinals were close to what they were last season.

The good news is, there is always some controversy in DC. Cousins contract is getting a lot of air time. Cousins has McCloughan and the organization by the balls. He clearly feels disrespected from the Griffin saga and the contract ordeal.

No home team discount here. It's Luck money and not a penny less or franchise him two more years ($58 million total) or let him walk. Under the tag, he will definitely walk after 2018.

Cousins would have been happy with $20 million per long-term last offseason, but McCloughan offered $16 million. Not sure where Snyder stands on this. Would be great if Snyder feels McCloughan blew this one and chases him out of there. BTW, McCloughan looks like hell.

There is one other scenario where the Skins franchise and trade. Teams looking for a QB are the Browns, Bears, Jets, 49ers, maybe Buffalo, and maybe Denver. I could see that happening.

I don't think McCloughan has the stomach for a $25 million/per year QB. He saw first hand what the 49ers were able to do with Kaepernick and the Seahawks with Wilson. It enabled both teams to stack the roster with talent. However, the closest thing the Skins have had to a franchise QB since Sammy Baugh was Theismann. Can they afford to give up Cousins for uncertainty yet again?

The first step is keeping the Skins out of the playoffs. The poo will hit the fan in DC and it will be awesome.
RE: I wonder if there was a Redskins thread  
Britt in VA : 11/29/2016 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13239787 Mike in Long Beach said:
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this time last year.


That's what I was just thinking.
Well, since Philly hosts Dallas in Week 17...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/29/2016 1:39 pm : link
...we might be better off if they are only mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do: hope Sproles returns a couple of punts for TDs.

But mostly dead, they still have something to play for: like maybe, they're a half-game behind the Redskins, who will obligingly lose to the Giants and open the door for Philly to grab the sixth seed by knocking off the Cowboys.

So, here's a plausible best-case scenario going into Week 17:
DAL 12-3
NYG 11-4
DET 9-6
WAS 8-6-1
PHI 8-7
MIN 8-7
TAM 8-7
GNB 8-7

Even Chris in Philly would ring in the New Year as an Eagles fan... for three hours.
RE: I want them buried by the time we play them.  
GloryDayz : 11/29/2016 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13239490 Bramton1 said:
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I don't want them giving a shit at that point!


Beating the Giants would be a good consolation prize even if they we're 0-15 when they play. And if they get to knock the Giants out of a playoff berth, cherry on the pie.

Regardless of the record, they'll give Giants all they have & then some.
They've been dead to me  
section125 : 11/29/2016 1:56 pm : link
for years, years, I tell ya'.
RE: RE: Boy Cord  
GloryDayz : 11/29/2016 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13239791 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 13239579 Greg from LI said:


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Listening to the Redskins fans, they're the first 6-4-1 juggernaut in the history of the league.



That's how that fan base rolls. They would be pissing their pants right now if the Panthers and Cardinals were close to what they were last season.

The good news is, there is always some controversy in DC. Cousins contract is getting a lot of air time. Cousins has McCloughan and the organization by the balls. He clearly feels disrespected from the Griffin saga and the contract ordeal.

No home team discount here. It's Luck money and not a penny less or franchise him two more years ($58 million total) or let him walk. Under the tag, he will definitely walk after 2018.

Cousins would have been happy with $20 million per long-term last offseason, but McCloughan offered $16 million. Not sure where Snyder stands on this. Would be great if Snyder feels McCloughan blew this one and chases him out of there. BTW, McCloughan looks like hell.

There is one other scenario where the Skins franchise and trade. Teams looking for a QB are the Browns, Bears, Jets, 49ers, maybe Buffalo, and maybe Denver. I could see that happening.

I don't think McCloughan has the stomach for a $25 million/per year QB. He saw first hand what the 49ers were able to do with Kaepernick and the Seahawks with Wilson. It enabled both teams to stack the roster with talent. However, the closest thing the Skins have had to a franchise QB since Sammy Baugh was Theismann. Can they afford to give up Cousins for uncertainty yet again?

The first step is keeping the Skins out of the playoffs. The poo will hit the fan in DC and it will be awesome.


Skins wont have a top 10-15 pick to draft a high caliber prospect QB & let Cousins walk. Even then, its not sure thing in the draft. Cousins, Prescott, Wilson, & Brady are the exception to the rule (finding a franchise QB in later rounds), not the norm.

Unless Cousins asks for a ridiculous contract ($25m is high but not ridiculous), they have no choice but to sign him IMO. They can tag him again of course, but they'd face the same dilemma in 2018.

They're like $45m under the cap (not including Cousins) next year. They should be able to sign him and still have room to be active in FA.
Maybe I should have included SEA in that Week 17 logjam.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/29/2016 2:14 pm : link
Big Blue Blogger said:
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So, here's a plausible best-case scenario going into Week 17:
DAL 12-3
NYG 11-4
DET 9-6
WAS 8-6-1
PHI 8-7
MIN 8-7
TAM 8-7
GNB 8-7

I conceded the West to Seattle weeks ago, and their finale in San Francisco will probably be the Trevone Boykin Bowl. But it's still possible for Arizona make a run.
PHI at 8-7  
TDexperiment : 11/29/2016 3:59 pm : link
what makes you think that?
RE: PHI at 8-7  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/29/2016 4:34 pm : link
TDexperiment said:
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what makes you think that?

It wasn't a prediction, just a possibility. The path to 8-7 (in this best-case scenario) would be wins over CIN, WAS and BAL, followed of course by a soul-crushing loss to the Giants. Meanwhile, WAS would beat CHI, lose to PHI and split vs. ARI and CAR to reach 8-6-1. NYG beats DAL, PHI and either PIT or DET. DAL loses to NYG plus one of MIN, TB and DET.

Heck, you want an implausible best-case scenario? NYG win the next four, while DAL loses two additional games. Giants clinch the East and the #1 seed at 12-3, and Ryan Nassib plays all but the first offensive series against Washington.
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GP : 11/29/2016 4:39 pm : link
In what way is this a 'Non-Giants Thread'? I cringe whenever someone uses that manual, unnecessary tag ... it's even worse when it's used and it is a Giants related topic.

Okay, I don't actually cringe. But I still don't understand the need to include the tag. Is it a BBI legacy thing prior to 2005 (when I began lurking)?
RE: I would think a Giants fan would know better than to write them off  
micky : 11/29/2016 6:34 pm : link
In comment 13239577 Greg from LI said:
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God knows those sonsofbitches have ruined things for us enough in the past.



This^^^^^^^
One thing I have learned after living down here in the Philly suburbs  
Wuphat : 11/29/2016 6:53 pm : link
for the past 15 years is that you never count on the Eagles not fucking up the Giants shit until it is mathematically impossible.

And even then, they will still find a way
RE: I wonder if there was a Redskins thread  
bignygfan : 11/30/2016 1:53 am : link
In comment 13239787 Mike in Long Beach said:
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this time last year.


Skins actually dropped to 5-7, then won four straight. The difference is they didn't trail a team by three games. The Eagles trail us by three games with 5 left.
The Redskins' title run in 2012 was even more surprising.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/30/2016 2:41 am : link
The last time the Giants took the field against Pittsburgh, they led Washington by 3.5 games. The Giants were 6-2, and the Redskins had just dropped to 3-6 with a loss to Carolina.

While New York wilted in November and December, Washington reeled off seven straight wins. The sixth eliminated the Giants in the East. It took Washington just six games to not only overcome the 3.5-game deficit, but render the Giants-Eagles finale moot. (The Redskins still had to beat Dallas in Week 17 to clinch the division.)

This year, the Eagles don't look like a team primed for any kind of run. But stranger things have happened.
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