It's Newark and it's really no conversation. Anyone who tells you otherwise is steering you wrong. You don't want to go near LaG and Kennedy is far. Newark is by far the easiest way
transit 1 stop to NY. Air train is clearly signed in the airport. you can also go outside to the cab cue and take it directly to your address for abou t$45 on the expense account. Never ever fly into Laguardia
you do not have to change at Seacucus to go to NY Â
It's just inexcusable how an airport in the most important city in the US (or world), which is sensationally wealthy, is such an irredeemable shithole. The fact that it was never attached to the 7 train is mindblowing.
America's infrastructure is such a disaster.
In a world with competent politicians and a public that's not shockingly myopic and self-interested, we would couple tax reform & entitlement reform (incl public pensions to free up state money) with an enormous infrastructure investment.
it's hard to be too tough on it - it's not as if there's a ton of space nearby for them to expand, or that they're capable of interrupting operations on a large scale in order to get it done.
Having said that, if your choices are landing the plane in the Hudson ala Sully or LGA, bring a swimsuit and a towel.
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Newark is definitely the call. The 200 block of Madison is like 35th st. That's a convenient walk from Penn Station, so you'll get into manhattan easily with the train and then be pretty close to where you're going.
...I'm not sure the transportation links are such a slam-dunk over JFK. If you don't hit the connection right, you can cool your heels for a long time at the EWR train station after the short monorail ride - especially during off-peak hours.
Although the JFK AirTrain/E Line combination is crap by 21st-century standards, it does have the virtue of being highly predictable: From Terminal 8 to your destination will take an hour, give or take a few minutes, at most times of day. Add 2-10 minutes for lower-numbered terminals. By the way, my least favorite option is the JFK AirTrain connection to the A Line, which serves downtown Manhattan. It's the worst of both worlds: an unpredictable wait (because a lot of A trains don't go to Howard Beach) and a long, slow ride when it finally comes.
As others have said, the whole airport transfer situation in New York is an embarrassment.
...I'm not sure the transportation links are such a slam-dunk over JFK. If you don't hit the connection right, you can cool your heels for a long time at the EWR train station after the short monorail ride - especially during off-peak hours.
Although the JFK AirTrain/E Line combination is crap by 21st-century standards, it does have the virtue of being highly predictable: From Terminal 8 to your destination will take an hour, give or take a few minutes, at most times of day. Add 2-10 minutes for lower-numbered terminals. By the way, my least favorite option is the JFK AirTrain connection to the A Line, which serves downtown Manhattan. It's the worst of both worlds: an unpredictable wait (because a lot of A trains don't go to Howard Beach) and a long, slow ride when it finally comes.
As others have said, the whole airport transfer situation in New York is an embarrassment.
It is more expensive than AirTrain to E train, but if you grab first LIRR train it is faster to Penn Station
even though Newark is technically the easiest to go through, I used to have 10:30AM meetings in Manhattan and would get flights into JFK and cab it in and it would take about 30 minutes with traffic being light most mid-mornings.
Gonna weigh in again. LaG is definitely out. It's a dump even without the construction. It's an airport that belongs in a 3rd world country. JFK is not a horrible choice but that can ride to NYC would run you $75-$100 (probably closer to $100) and probably a $8 toll. I think public transportation is bad from JFK. With Newark, there's a quick tram to New Jersey Transit and then a half hour ride to Penn Station - you don't have to change trains; costs about $10. And, as mentioned above, it's a quick walk to Madison Ave - maybe 10-15 minutes. With any of the airports, a traffic issue or train breakdown or any delay will screw things up but all things considered, Neward is your best bet and it's not even close.
the cab cue is fast and you're in NY in 15 minutes and cheaper than JFK.
I worked on Madison ave for 30 years , The only time I woulf fly into JFK were Orient trips otherwise given the choice always Newark
from JFK to mid-Manhattan for me runs $55 + tolls - it is always under $70.
Depending on the time of day, it's less than $55. From the TLC site:
To/From JFK and any location in Manhattan:
Onscreen rate is ‘Rate #02 – JFK Airport.’
This is a flat fare of $52 plus tolls, the 50-cent MTA State Surcharge, the 30-cent Improvement Surcharge, and $4.50 rush hour surcharge (4 PM to 8 PM weekdays, excluding legal holidays).
Passenger is responsible for paying all tolls.
Please tip your driver for safety and good service.
but...I never fly into NY anymore, I only take the Acela train. however i'm coming from Boston not STL.
who wants to get off a plane and then go wait for a train?
most travelers just want to get in a cab and go where there going, unless it's rush hour it's 35 - 45 minutes in a cab to Manhattan from LGA. And the US Air (if it's still called that) terminal was redone in the past 5 years or so and isn't as dumpy as the rest of the airport.
that being said, I was in NYC for UN week and I was in a cab from Penn Station to 650 Madison Ave and after 45 minutes and two block I got out and walked, just saying the traffic in NYC is unpredictable sometimes.
that sounds right. It did seem to be a flat fee. If I went from JFK to my hotel first (I usually stay in LIC), the cab was only about $35, then taking the subway to Manhattan is another $2.
Newark if you are flying United... Delta = Lag but distant second choice... JFK = forget it
Newark: bout a 1/2 hour/40 mins to get into Penn. Pretty easy.
Really not gonna matter much which you choose.
I have. Not bad. Airtran to the train. Change at Seacaucus to Penn.
LGA is a mess, I would opt for Newark if you are on SWA.
It's just inexcusable how an airport in the most important city in the US (or world), which is sensationally wealthy, is such an irredeemable shithole. The fact that it was never attached to the 7 train is mindblowing.
America's infrastructure is such a disaster.
In a world with competent politicians and a public that's not shockingly myopic and self-interested, we would couple tax reform & entitlement reform (incl public pensions to free up state money) with an enormous infrastructure investment.
/rant. I'm flying out of there Friday.
Having said that, if your choices are landing the plane in the Hudson ala Sully or LGA, bring a swimsuit and a towel.
Although the JFK AirTrain/E Line combination is crap by 21st-century standards, it does have the virtue of being highly predictable: From Terminal 8 to your destination will take an hour, give or take a few minutes, at most times of day. Add 2-10 minutes for lower-numbered terminals. By the way, my least favorite option is the JFK AirTrain connection to the A Line, which serves downtown Manhattan. It's the worst of both worlds: an unpredictable wait (because a lot of A trains don't go to Howard Beach) and a long, slow ride when it finally comes.
As others have said, the whole airport transfer situation in New York is an embarrassment.
Although the JFK AirTrain/E Line combination is crap by 21st-century standards, it does have the virtue of being highly predictable: From Terminal 8 to your destination will take an hour, give or take a few minutes, at most times of day. Add 2-10 minutes for lower-numbered terminals. By the way, my least favorite option is the JFK AirTrain connection to the A Line, which serves downtown Manhattan. It's the worst of both worlds: an unpredictable wait (because a lot of A trains don't go to Howard Beach) and a long, slow ride when it finally comes.
As others have said, the whole airport transfer situation in New York is an embarrassment.
It is more expensive than AirTrain to E train, but if you grab first LIRR train it is faster to Penn Station
I am surprised at how divided people are on the subject...
If you need to be in NJ any way, then Newark makes more sense since LGA is on the opposite side of the metro area.
I worked on Madison ave for 30 years , The only time I woulf fly into JFK were Orient trips otherwise given the choice always Newark
To/From JFK and any location in Manhattan:
Onscreen rate is ‘Rate #02 – JFK Airport.’
This is a flat fare of $52 plus tolls, the 50-cent MTA State Surcharge, the 30-cent Improvement Surcharge, and $4.50 rush hour surcharge (4 PM to 8 PM weekdays, excluding legal holidays).
Passenger is responsible for paying all tolls.
Please tip your driver for safety and good service.
who wants to get off a plane and then go wait for a train?
most travelers just want to get in a cab and go where there going, unless it's rush hour it's 35 - 45 minutes in a cab to Manhattan from LGA. And the US Air (if it's still called that) terminal was redone in the past 5 years or so and isn't as dumpy as the rest of the airport.
that being said, I was in NYC for UN week and I was in a cab from Penn Station to 650 Madison Ave and after 45 minutes and two block I got out and walked, just saying the traffic in NYC is unpredictable sometimes.