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Colin Cowherd calls NY Giants total frauds.......

sxdxca : 11/29/2016 11:36 pm
He says they are the worst team in the division. Says Eagles , Washington , and Dallas are all better. Cowherd says they should be 4th in there division. Starts laughing that they beat Dak Prescott in his first game for Dallas...That's how bad they are.

You can watch yourself , I posted the link below. Curious what you guys think of this person?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAP_LnbPk8k
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I happened to hear about 5 minutes  
Giant John : 11/30/2016 6:41 am : link
Of his show yesterday. He was listing his top 10 teams. Giants were not included. His cohosts questioned him on this and he started talked about the Giants do nothing well. Really? Look at defensive stats lately? How about our passing game? The guy has an obvious bias against the Giants. I have no respect for his opinion.
These guys don't even believe what they say  
ZogZerg : 11/30/2016 6:57 am : link
They are just trying to get attention.
It works....
RE: Best way to shut these idiots up  
BigBlueShock : 11/30/2016 7:19 am : link
In comment 13240731 montanagiant said:
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Is go out and beat Pitt

Once they beat Pitt, all we will hear is how they just beat another team without a winning record. Pittsburgh will somehow become a terrible team if the Giants beat them.
We will see what the division looks like  
EricJ : 11/30/2016 7:35 am : link
after week 17 when all of the teams would have had basically the same schedule.

You do realize the Cowherd is saying these things to get clicks right?
RE: RE: Best way to shut these idiots up  
jcn56 : 11/30/2016 7:38 am : link
In comment 13240769 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13240731 montanagiant said:


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Is go out and beat Pitt


Once they beat Pitt, all we will hear is how they just beat another team without a winning record. Pittsburgh will somehow become a terrible team if the Giants beat them.


Well, duh! They would have lost to the Giants!

I don't care about the Rodney Dangerfield aspect, just keep winning.
RE: Can't think of anyone whose opinion carries less weight  
dep026 : 11/30/2016 7:38 am : link
In comment 13240685 Greg from LI said:
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Radars?
I love how that  
St. Jimmy : 11/30/2016 7:40 am : link
opening night loss to the Giants just tears up Cowboy fans. I cannot wait for the game vs. them in two weeks. How great would it be if the Giants beat them again and they have to sit around for the rest of the season dreading playing the Giants in the playoffs?
This is one helluva division  
Big Blue '56 : 11/30/2016 7:51 am : link
if the Giants are only the 4th best..
NY Giants call Colin Cowherd total fraud....  
GiantsUA : 11/30/2016 8:06 am : link
How much does he get paid?
We are like Ravens  
eliapple : 11/30/2016 8:07 am : link
That beat us in SB, great D average O.
Except we have upside on underachieving O
and Eli better than Dilfer.
Actually, radar might be annoying  
Cruzin : 11/30/2016 8:09 am : link

but he knows more about football than most of you.
Just sayin'

Cowherd doesn't have an opinion, he's stated publicly that he takes the controversial side for better ratings. Doesn't say much for the people that still watch/listen to him.
Apparently  
Mike in Philly : 11/30/2016 8:09 am : link
his ratings must be slipping.
I'll share my..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2016 8:11 am : link
Cowherd story again. We were at a sales meeting in Naples, FL working out before the day started and Cowherd comes into the resort gym. Starts preening in front of the mirror and then gets on the treadmill. I'm with 3 co-workers and we are chatting about sports. Cowherd realizes he's not part of the conversation, so he tries to angle in asking if we saw a NBA game the night before. We replied no - we were watching hockey and kept about our business. At this point, we have no clue who he is - and it would have stayed that way except - - -

He starts asking why we were watching hockey and making jabs. Finally, one of the guys I'm with is like, "Cool, dude. Thanks for the input". But Cowherd kept going and eventually pulls out the card - "Do you know who I am?"

None of us did, so he said, "I'm Colin Cowherd. ESPN. The Herd." Same guy in our group was like, "Cool". That's the last thing we said to him. Funny thing is one guy in our group didn't hadn't even heard of him. And another guy was a former NFL kicker and all he said was - you don't see me going around telling people who the hell I am!
Well to his credit  
Jimmy Googs : 11/30/2016 8:12 am : link
he got all the teams in the Division correct...
He's Always Been A Big Eli Guy  
Jeffrey : 11/30/2016 8:13 am : link
While I am certain he was going for shock value, I do not view him as anti-Giants. I know plenty of Giants' fans who are not impressed with the way this team has been playing.The offense has been poor to average all year. The OL is hurt and even when healthy not very good. No TEs. Special teams are a disaster waiting to happen each game. The defense gets pushed around until the red zone and late in games. Yet, they are winning. That is really what matters.

It is encouraging to me that they win while playing poorly. They win with young players who will get better and with a veteran QB who has not played particularly well yet, but goes on streaks when he can be among the best. The OL will get healthy and the RBs will improve with repetition. At this point my only concern is with the coach and the ultra-conservative approach on offense. That is where I see potential disaster lurking.
The Giants really botched up that Skins game  
Giants2012 : 11/30/2016 8:26 am : link
and beat Philly so I'd say it's just Cowherd making noise. Nobody is a bigger fraud than Skip Bayless which is why he's on the map. Cowherd is similar.
Well, if Dallas' offense sputters for one game,  
barens : 11/30/2016 8:28 am : link
does anyone think their defense will carry them to a win? Not likely.
Cowherd knows what he is talking about.  
Boy Cord : 11/30/2016 8:46 am : link
He has made a career out of being a total fraud.
Cowherd's  
ryanmkeane : 11/30/2016 8:55 am : link
opinions on NFL matters are a laughingstock.
RE: Someone should make Cowherd and Bayliss fight to the death  
TheManUpstairs : 11/30/2016 8:58 am : link
In comment 13240687 j_rud said:
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And then shoot the winner in the face


True.
One of Colin's salient points  
Glover : 11/30/2016 8:58 am : link
was the Eagles were going to beat the Packers. How'd that work out?
The Giant's offense is scary, to Giants fans. It does say something that they couldn't put up 300 yards on the Browns. The Giants run game is non-existant, and they do make a lot of mistakes. 9 punts? Wow.
The bright side is that they have won a lot of games they would have lost last season and the season before. They have always played to their competition, so I could see them beating Pittsburgh, or at the very least, losing by less than a FG.
I like it. these clowns love shocking takes, they take a little bit of info and make teams either overrated or phony world beaters. They have done that with Dallas for years. The year Dallas is finally good, they can't give credit to anyone else. They're phonies.
He might be right  
AnnapolisMike : 11/30/2016 9:09 am : link
I hate listening to Cowherd....but he has never had an anti Giants bias. I've been hoping the Giants have been sandbagging on offense a bit. The Pittsburgh game will be a nice yardstick to see if they can turn it up a notch. Win and the playoffs are more of a lock....a loss combined with Minny and Washington wins will mean panic on the streets of BBI.

that's awesome, Fats  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2016 9:20 am : link
Color me unsurprised that a clown like Cowherd would actually pull a "Do you know who I am?"
He says the Giants are a fraud  
blueblood'11 : 11/30/2016 9:44 am : link
What the fuck does that mean anyway. No team is a fraud. It's to convenient to simply say something so opaque. You want to say I don't think they can get to where they want to go because the offense stinks fine. But there are three elements to every team. Were the 2000 Ravens frauds because they hadn't scored an offensive touchdown in their first six games! Shit, the won the Super Bowl for crying out loud. They had a killer defense.

In a sport like pro football to call a team frauds is about as obtuse an opinion one can give. And if it is to attract attention to yourself to make you look like a higher authority then he's the fucking fraud.

RE: These guys don't even believe what they say  
NoPeanutz : 11/30/2016 9:48 am : link
In comment 13240763 ZogZerg said:
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They are just trying to get attention.
It works....


^^ This. It's called a "hot take."
Fraud ?  
PEEJ : 11/30/2016 9:48 am : link
"You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means"
The Giants have to play better  
BurlyMan : 11/30/2016 10:12 am : link
and the Giants know it and that's really the only thing that matters.
RE: Cowherd succeeded in his ultimate goal  
Old Dirty Beckham : 11/30/2016 10:15 am : link
In comment 13240698 mfsd said:
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Getting people to actually talk about him for a day. He'll be irrelevant again as soon as we start ignoring him


Yeah, the guy with a million dollar contract and nationally syndicated radio show broadcast on a major sportsnetwork is irrelevent!
fraud is a ridiculous word to use  
ColHowPepper : 11/30/2016 10:24 am : link
but there are many of us here who are, rightfully, imo, skeptical as to what this Giants team can achieve over the next five weeks...and beyond? AnnapolisMike's signature thread yesterday, which excited some opposing views, Mike in LB, Jeffrey, bceagles, etc., we're not Giants bashers.

The eye test goes a long way, and the offensive struggles are hard to stomach, game after game, until they disappear for a series or two, enough for OBJ to perform some of his magic.

Someone above called our d "great" and compared it to the Ravens' d in our SB against them. Really? Our d has improved a lot, but it still cannot defend the crossing routes and good TEs on seam routes because our LBs, while improved as a unit, are still quite challenged in coverage and our FS position is, once again, up in the air.

Yes, most teams are flawed and not 100% sound in all phases, and we have more than our share of warts. It's not a giant leap to remain skeptical and still want the best outcome.
We will all find out in the next five weeks.  
rocco8112 : 11/30/2016 10:25 am : link
This D looks legit to me. They are scoring, making plays and getting stops to win games and hold leads when the offense is shitting the bed for long stretches.

Granted, the competition level is about to rise, but I do not think this defense will be getting steamrolled anytime soon. Looking forward to Sunday, if you listen to the media you would think the Steelers were some unbeatable juggernaut. Absurd, the Giants can definitely pull this one out on the road. They could lose it to, but I do not think the Giants are going to get exposed as a paper tiger and get blown out of the stadium this Sunday.
You have to give him credit though...  
EricJ : 11/30/2016 10:27 am : link
for basically hanging up on Harbaugh... that shit was funny
..  
Pete in 'Vliet : 11/30/2016 10:31 am : link
I'm just loving this season. The more the experts pile on, the bigger my grin gets.
Stop listening to this asswipe  
rsjem1979 : 11/30/2016 10:34 am : link
He's a troll and a moron, and every time someone mentions his name or one of his stupid takes, you're making him richer than he already is.
I don't feel the Giants are playing like a playoff team...  
silverfox : 11/30/2016 10:50 am : link
...despite their 8-3 record. The only reason imo that they aren't 3-8 is because the defense has to keep bailing them out. The upside is that there is so much room to improve on offense that if the two sides of the ball could ever play a complete game together at a playoff level, they could potentially win it all.
That's what he said about  
chuckydee9 : 11/30/2016 11:05 am : link
The 2007 giants after we beat the 18-0 Pats
..  
djm : 11/30/2016 12:25 pm : link
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Cowherd 2016 NFL predictions - ( New Window )
Another moron who would rather say something  
weeg in the bronx : 11/30/2016 12:48 pm : link
controversial than insightful.
RE: RE: Best way to shut these idiots up  
montanagiant : 11/30/2016 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13240769 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13240731 montanagiant said:


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Is go out and beat Pitt


Once they beat Pitt, all we will hear is how they just beat another team without a winning record. Pittsburgh will somehow become a terrible team if the Giants beat them.

The fact is these last 5 games will define this team. We win 3 of them they have to take us seriously whether they want to or not. Besides, it always makes success so much sweeter when it's least expected by those against you.
Cowherd's predictions  
Jimmy Googs : 11/30/2016 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13241221 djm said:
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.. Cowherd 2016 NFL predictions - ( New Window )


Cowher's Playoff teams...

In AFC, he seems to have predicted correctly on Raiders, Pats, KC and Steelers. Missed on Colts and Jets

In NFC, he has Cowboys, Seattle and I will give him Minn. Missed on GB, Carolina and Arizona.

not too bad...
RE: NNEster  
NINEster : 11/30/2016 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13240757 blueblood'11 said:
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You realize the Giants have the number one or at the very least top three defense in all the league in goal line defense. They were number one for most of the year. I don't think they have dropped off much if any at all. With that said I think that is even more important the their overall ranking.

As for Colin Cowshit, if you listen to the guy he is the most opinionated asshole I have ever heard, no pun intended, on the radio. This is the NFL. Lest he forgets that old axiom on any given Sunday if you you don't come out to play you will get beat.

To compare opinions Francesa's take has really surprised me with regards to the Giants. He sees a team that he believes for all its imperfections is ascending in that it is not satisfied and knows they can improve as they navigate their way to hopefully a playoff spot. So it keeps them from becoming complacent.

I fully expected him to lambaste the Giants for their effort against the Browns. But that wasn't the case. He likes what they are doing apparently, and feels they are having a terrific season and are a team that bares watching.

We all know Mike is cantankerous and opinionated himself but he sees something in the Giants and obviously would not characterize them as frauds. Which is stupid because you have to earn every win in this league. And that's just what the Giants have been doing. So for mister Cowshit, I'll see you in my vegetable garden next spring as I ready it for planting.


If the Giants really have a top goal line defense that is impressive. We saw how a good goal line defense saved the Seahawks from losing to the Cardinals and a few other teams.

I know the Seahawks all too well. They were "scary" in 2013, half of 2014 and maybe even a chunk of 2015.

What hasn't changed is their fight. They are unbreakable spirit wise.

But you can move the ball on their defense these days, even in Seattle. Not move the ball at will with ease, but better than what it used to be when top offenses would get embarrassed regularly in their stadium.

Wilson is ok and can make plays, but won't frighten you if you have a decent defense. Their run game is not as consistent as it used to be.

Saints, Dolphins, Bucs, Rams all made them look ordinary offensively. That's what the Seahawk offense will look like in January much more than what it did recently in New England, against Philly, against Buffalo.

I had never heard of him until he was brought up here  
Post Time : 11/30/2016 1:44 pm : link
And since I never watch or listen to ESPN I still wouldn't know who he was except for reading about him here.
Giants wins are not coming very easily  
Jersey55 : 11/30/2016 4:39 pm : link
but I keep remembering Phil Simms statement when he said that fans don't really understand how hard it is to win a game in the NFL...
The problem I have is that when he gives his top 10 teams,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/30/2016 4:54 pm : link
not only are the Giants missing from that group, they're 2-1 in their 3 games against those top 10 teams. He likes to think he's on a different intelligence level when looking at these things when he's just like everyone else. He's going by a completely arbitrary eye test.
the only thing that matters  
mdc1 : 11/30/2016 6:04 pm : link
and will define the Giants for who they are the remaining opponents on the schedule and if we can beat them.

One of the great things about football, a score and record is kept and as someone use to say, you cannot hide from your record.
I just hope we keep winning  
Pete in 'Vliet : 11/30/2016 6:35 pm : link
by the slimmest of margins and they keep thinking we "just got lucky"

My dream is, following the Dallas game, the experts are calling us the worst 10-3 team in the history of the NFL.
Year after year we fall into the same trap of "style points".  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/30/2016 7:00 pm : link
Don't understand it at all. The last fanbase that should care about the look and feel of wins, or the idea that "style points" can predict future success, are Giants fans.
The Giants didn't hang 300 yards on the browns  
djm : 11/30/2016 7:18 pm : link
And that concerns you?

They didn't have to hang 300 yards on the browns. Doesn't that matter? In my opinion it most definitely does.

The Giants offense was good enough during this 6 game winning streak. That's all that fucking matters. Until the offense loses a game I'm not going to condemn them.
get to the playoffs and we can answer questions there  
chris r : 11/30/2016 7:21 pm : link
you can say that winning a lot of close games involves luck and does not necessarily reflect how good the team is. You can also say that winning a lot of close games prepares a team for the adversity they may face in the playoffs.
I just hope  
JOrthman : 11/30/2016 7:22 pm : link
I just hope we are able to make the BCS title game.
And if the Giants are "frauds"  
djm : 11/30/2016 7:25 pm : link
Then every team not named Dallas, pats and maybe KC and the Raiders are frauds.

This shit is pointless it means nothing but it sucks that there's very little actual worthwhile NFL content on the air. I can get more from the hammer drunk Dallas fan in a bar down the street.
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