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Should they tweak the extra point scenario?

Carson53 : 11/30/2016 9:22 am
I thought about this after the Saints/Broncos game.

If a team is kicking an extra POINT, why should the team
who blocks the attempt, get TWO points by running it back?
Now, I can see if an attempt at a two point conversion is
intercepted and run back the other way. They should get two points, it was a two point conversion.
Initially, I thought they were reinventing the wheel so to speak by moving the extra point back, but it has grown on me.
I would like to see the Competition Committee tweak it slightly though, how about you?
Why not get rid of the XP altogether?  
DC Gmen Fan : 11/30/2016 9:27 am : link
Team can choose 1 pt conversion from the 2 yd line or 2 pt conversion from the 7 (or whatever yard line)
I like what they are doing now.  
AnnapolisMike : 11/30/2016 9:33 am : link
It adds some excitement to the game.
Just Get Rid Of The 1 Pt Extra Pt Kick Completely  
Trainmaster : 11/30/2016 9:51 am : link
and have every team try for 2 pts after every touchdown.

Adds several exciting potential scoring plays every game and eliminates a still near automatic play.

Overall scoring would stay about the same (2 pt conversion is about 45% to 50% overall success rate).

You'd also get fewer tie games, less overtime.


I hate how a game or season  
DC Gmen Fan : 11/30/2016 10:22 am : link
can come down to the foot of a kicker whom a team may have just picked up the day before.
RE: I hate how a game or season  
Giants2012 : 11/30/2016 10:29 am : link
In comment 13240996 DC Gmen Fan said:
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can come down to the foot of a kicker whom a team may have just picked up the day before.


I think it's a significant problem. They're putting more emphasis on the extra point so, like you said, the game/season, etc comes down to a person who really isn't a football player. Field goals are a huge part of the game yet I'm not a fan of tweaking this extra point.

It's not apples to apples but imagine a tight soccer game tweaking their rules and decided by somebody throwing the ball. Doesn't seem right.
I like  
jtfuoco : 11/30/2016 10:34 am : link
the new rule it has made the XP a lot more interesting as it seems like there are more blocks now days as well as other incidents that are change late game strategy. I have no problem with the defense getting 2 points if they can return it the other way it gives the Defense a incentive to go all out on the play and God knows the game already favors the offense in so many ways.

The only thing I think would be interesting if you moved the XP back to it original spot and had the person who scored the TD have attempt the XP instead of the professional kicker I could support that then it would be a true attempt for a extra point by a player
Before they kick the XP  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 11/30/2016 10:41 am : link
The kicking team should have to do an interpretive dance routine relating to how much they need the points. If the average score of five celebrity judges is over 7.5 on a ten point scale, the ensuing try is worth two points instead of one.
Can a team drop kick from the 2?  
Eli Wilson : 11/30/2016 11:17 am : link
ala Doug Flutie.

RE: Before they kick the XP  
Giants2012 : 11/30/2016 11:26 am : link
In comment 13241038 Gary from The East End said:
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The kicking team should have to do an interpretive dance routine relating to how much they need the points. If the average score of five celebrity judges is over 7.5 on a ten point scale, the ensuing try is worth two points instead of one.


For ratings, I'd have a separate day at the combine for dancing, evaluated by Judges, etc. Only makes sense the better dancers get drafted earlier.
RE: RE: Before they kick the XP  
jsuds : 11/30/2016 11:38 am : link
In comment 13241116 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 13241038 Gary from The East End said:


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The kicking team should have to do an interpretive dance routine relating to how much they need the points. If the average score of five celebrity judges is over 7.5 on a ten point scale, the ensuing try is worth two points instead of one.



For ratings, I'd have a separate day at the combine for dancing, evaluated by Judges, etc. Only makes sense the better dancers get drafted earlier.



In this scenario the refs should be able to overrule the judges in case the dancers take it to the point of being offensive by current NFL standards. Also watch for helmets being removed.
RE: Can a team drop kick from the 2?  
Carson53 : 11/30/2016 11:43 am : link
In comment 13241100 Eli Wilson said:
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ala Doug Flutie.
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He can also dunk a basketball, saw it with my own eyes.
A buddy of mine went to BC back in the day. After he
was done matriculating, they allowed (back then)
the grads to play hoops at their gym/arena.
I got to play some hoops with Flutie, great athlete.
Also, I played some Junior College hoops back in the day.
Carson53  
Milton : 11/30/2016 11:48 am : link
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If a team is kicking an extra POINT, why should the team
who blocks the attempt, get TWO points by running it back?
Because if it's a bad snap and the holder is forced to scramble for the endzone, it would count as two points for the kicking team.
RE: Carson53  
Carson53 : 11/30/2016 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13241156 Milton said:
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If a team is kicking an extra POINT, why should the team
who blocks the attempt, get TWO points by running it back?

Because if it's a bad snap and the holder is forced to scramble for the endzone, it would count as two points for the kicking team.
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True, but if the kick is blocked, not a fan of the other
team getting two points by running it back.
If the kick goes thru the uprights, it's one point.
I feel that's the part that should be tweaked.
The game I mentioned on this thread, pretty crappy way
to lose a game right?
You don't have to kick it  
tomjgiant : 11/30/2016 4:34 pm : link
You can always go for two.
I like it this way.
RE: Before they kick the XP  
Deej : 11/30/2016 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13241038 Gary from The East End said:
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The kicking team should have to do an interpretive dance routine relating to how much they need the points. If the average score of five celebrity judges is over 7.5 on a ten point scale, the ensuing try is worth two points instead of one.


This is really silly. You need to drop the high and low scores because there is always at least one crooked judge.
Of coarse  
tomjgiant : 11/30/2016 4:37 pm : link
Pittsburgh would have beaten Dallas if they just kicked the extra points instead of going for two all day.
RE: Why not get rid of the XP altogether?  
widmerseyebrow : 11/30/2016 5:14 pm : link
In comment 13240905 DC Gmen Fan said:
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Team can choose 1 pt conversion from the 2 yd line or 2 pt conversion from the 7 (or whatever yard line)


I like this the best. Use historical 4th down data to find where the 2 point los should be.
RE: RE: Why not get rid of the XP altogether?  
MetsAreBack : 11/30/2016 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13241719 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 13240905 DC Gmen Fan said:


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Team can choose 1 pt conversion from the 2 yd line or 2 pt conversion from the 7 (or whatever yard line)



I like this the best. Use historical 4th down data to find where the 2 point los should be.



Might as well get rid of kickers and FGs entirely under this approach.

The soccer analogy above is really poor - yes let's emulate a sport that decides world cup playoff matches via skills competitions (e.g., penalty shots).

Not to mention who says kickers arent "real" football players? Kicking is a part of the game. You could say "team picked him up day before" about any player on the field. Didnt Pittsburgh's practice squad RB join the team in the playoffs last year and fumble the game away against Denver?
I vote for...  
EricJ : 11/30/2016 6:06 pm : link
moving everything to the 10 yard line.
1. Kick it from the 10 for 1 pt
2. Score from the 10 for 3 pts
Kickers  
Simms : 11/30/2016 6:10 pm : link
Doubt the union is going to allow kickers to be erased without a fight. Especially if your a team has a great one.
And more so if he is cap friendly.

Anyone have a master list of kickers salaries?
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