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UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 10:19 am
anyone pick it up yesterday? I've been mulling it over since I've been dying for an RPG to play but everything about FF15 has been so underwhelming other than the graphics.

Reviews have been better than expected. Between the reviews, feedback from my friend who's playing, and watching a few different streams on Twitch here's what I have gathered:

Pros:
Graphics
Open World
Side Quests
Combat

Cons:
Voice acting is terrible
Character models
Camera angles during combat
Too much open world

I'm split 50/50 on it.
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GP : 11/30/2016 10:30 am : link
I've watched just about all of these, and this is the only one where I feel like Conan has an actual opinion on the game. Of course, it's a comedy bit and not a serious review, so I'm really just posting for the comedy aspect.
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Poor voice acting is a deal breaker for me.  
Brown Recluse : 11/30/2016 10:32 am : link
totally disconnects me from the story and makes everything feel dumb.
This won't tell you much, but....  
GiantFilthy : 11/30/2016 10:34 am : link
So far the reviews from ~six of my fellow FF friends.

Love it (4)
Like it (1)
Fuck this emo boy band shit (1)
Square has fully dissuaded me  
Overseer : 11/30/2016 10:36 am : link
from ever paying $60 for a Final Fantasy game again (VII remake possibly excepted). They've been on such a losing streak with that series. Haven't loved one since 9, although I only got through part of 12 which seemed very good.

I'll wait til it drops to $30 then give it a whirl.
RE: This won't tell you much, but....  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 10:40 am : link
In comment 13241025 GiantFilthy said:
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So far the reviews from ~six of my fellow FF friends.

Love it (4)
Like it (1)
Fuck this emo boy band shit (1)


I have to know the reasons for the 4 that loved it. I don't love many games, for example, so i'm skeptical when someone says they love a game with this many supposed problems.

Totally fine that they like it, just curious what they said about it.
I think the reviews  
Metnut : 11/30/2016 10:44 am : link
are generally really positive but people have various issues with the game. Getting an ~85 on metacritic, with reviews being tougher these days, generally means that the game is pretty damn good, even if there's flaws. A lot of people writing these reviews also likely are biased against JRPGs.

Personally, I'm psyched to get my hands on this huge world that Square put together. I got the game but havn't opened it yet so can't offer any first-hand thoughts.

I think if you've been a fan of Final Fantasy and like JRPGs, then it's a no-brainer to go ahead and take the plunge. Best case, you love the game and get a lot of time out of it. Worst case, you'll probably still get a lot out of it as no one is saying it's a complete bust like FF13.
I'll be picking it up, but honestly  
Jan in DC : 11/30/2016 10:49 am : link
it'll sit on my shelf for a while while I finish up some other games. But I'm always hopeful for FF going into them. FF13 was bad, but I still have fond memories of the series as a whole (well maybe just up to FF10, but still).

I am sort of glad they decided to focus on friendship as a theme and not some hokey romance plot (Though I'm sure there's one roped in there somewhere).
''Hokey romance plot''  
Overseer : 11/30/2016 11:53 am : link
You leave FF8 alone!

Seriously though, that card game is one of the best parts of any FF, ever.
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GiantFilthy : 11/30/2016 12:03 pm : link
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UConn4523 : 10:40 am : link : reply
I have to know the reasons for the 4 that loved it. I don't love many games, for example, so i'm skeptical when someone says they love a game with this many supposed problems.

Two of them play Final Fantasy games and only Final Fantasy games. They shouldn't really count.

The other two are interesting creatures that find silver linings in every plot hole and get way too immersed in the lore. And if the lore they immerse themselves into isn't to their liking they find a way to pseudo-roleplay it to their liking. Cosplay nerds and shit that will connect with a video game character on an emotional level. The kind of people that you sometimes just can't have a proper conversation with.
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Jackson Ellis : 11/30/2016 12:44 pm : link
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UConn4523 : 10:40 am : link : reply
I have to know the reasons for the 4 that loved it. I don't love many games, for example, so i'm skeptical when someone says they love a game with this many supposed problems.


Two of them play Final Fantasy games and only Final Fantasy games. They shouldn't really count.

The other two are interesting creatures that find silver linings in every plot hole and get way too immersed in the lore. And if the lore they immerse themselves into isn't to their liking they find a way to pseudo-roleplay it to their liking. Cosplay nerds and shit that will connect with a video game character on an emotional level. The kind of people that you sometimes just can't have a proper conversation with.


Your latter two friends actually sound pretty cool in that they genuinely try to find enjoyment in things and not take things too critically. I guess it also sounds like they may be socially awkward at times but hey, at least they're happy with their hobbies.
my brother and I scheduled a vacation week this week to play it  
RasputinPrime : 11/30/2016 12:48 pm : link
and with very little sleep since launch have been absolutely loving it. For those who play, I recommend watching the Kingsglaive movie and Brotherhood animated series beforehand. They fill in a lot and provide context.

This game is the first FF game since FFX that I really am enjoying. They took what made the recipe work and reinjected it into a game with a combat mechanic that is difficult to master but a lot of fun to play.
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UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13241174 GiantFilthy said:
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UConn4523 : 10:40 am : link : reply
I have to know the reasons for the 4 that loved it. I don't love many games, for example, so i'm skeptical when someone says they love a game with this many supposed problems.


Two of them play Final Fantasy games and only Final Fantasy games. They shouldn't really count.

The other two are interesting creatures that find silver linings in every plot hole and get way too immersed in the lore. And if the lore they immerse themselves into isn't to their liking they find a way to pseudo-roleplay it to their liking. Cosplay nerds and shit that will connect with a video game character on an emotional level. The kind of people that you sometimes just can't have a proper conversation with.


Haha, great descriptions. My friends are mixed but only 1 right now is playing. I have to reach out to my friend who used to work at Square but he's heavily biased so i'm not sure if that perspective is even worth getting.
RE: my brother and I scheduled a vacation week this week to play it  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13241258 RasputinPrime said:
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and with very little sleep since launch have been absolutely loving it. For those who play, I recommend watching the Kingsglaive movie and Brotherhood animated series beforehand. They fill in a lot and provide context.

This game is the first FF game since FFX that I really am enjoying. They took what made the recipe work and reinjected it into a game with a combat mechanic that is difficult to master but a lot of fun to play.


Good to know. I'm likely going to give it a shot since reviews have been better than I thought they would be. Would love to be wrong about this one, its been forever since I enjoyed a FF game (since 10 for me as well).
RE: my brother and I scheduled a vacation week this week to play it  
Lopes1984 : 11/30/2016 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13241258 RasputinPrime said:
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and with very little sleep since launch have been absolutely loving it. For those who play, I recommend watching the Kingsglaive movie and Brotherhood animated series beforehand. They fill in a lot and provide context.

This game is the first FF game since FFX that I really am enjoying. They took what made the recipe work and reinjected it into a game with a combat mechanic that is difficult to master but a lot of fun to play.


I am very happy to hear this. My copy should be arriving in the mail today, and I am very excited to play it. FFX was the last one that I really loved playing, I actually just recently bought the remastered version to play through it again. If it is similar to X at all then I am sure it will be great.
RE: ''Hokey romance plot''  
Moondawg : 11/30/2016 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13241162 Overseer said:
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You leave FF8 alone!

Seriously though, that card game is one of the best parts of any FF, ever.


Lol.

I wonder why people crap on FF8 (not you, I take you to be sincere); it was a fun, engrossing game. Of course, after 7, everything would pale, but it rarely gets mentioned.
I got Titanfall2 recently  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/30/2016 1:46 pm : link
Liking that game a lot
FF8 was bottom of the barrel  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 1:52 pm : link
for me as far as the franchise goes. The poster above was right, the card game was the best part which is sad. The story and characters were terrible and once you learned how the draw system worked, battle became incredibly easy and pointless.

They had a good idea with the game but it was executed terribly. I think Square was so shocked with how well received FF7 was in the west that they wanted to capitalize on it with 8 by thinking we wanted a game about college kids.
RE: I got Titanfall2 recently  
Moondawg : 11/30/2016 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13241413 OBJ_AllDay said:
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Liking that game a lot


YES
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Overseer : 11/30/2016 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13241396 Moondawg said:
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Lol.

I wonder why people crap on FF8 (not you, I take you to be sincere); it was a fun, engrossing game. Of course, after 7, everything would pale, but it rarely gets mentioned.

Mixed feelings on 8. Disliked it first time through, then many years later I re-played on an emulator and basically focused above all on the sensational card game with game advancement secondary. That entertained me a lot. And the game itself wasn't without sweet moments (Queen assassination attempt, e.g.)

I remember really liking 9. 10 too except I hated Blitzball so have mixed memories of that one.

The franchise overall is IMV just good, not great. Except for the 1 obvious exception (talking Playstation 1 and above...the early games, esp 6, have their own charm) which Square's reputation is largely based on.

Video games have come so ridiculously far since 97 when Square was a primo outfit. Now any number of companies caught up and then some, esp in formerly lagging America (Naughty Dog, Blizz which blew away every other MMORPG, Insomniac) so Final Fantasy doesn't feel "special" anymore. I am still drawn to them though, and will give 15 a shot soon.
Been playing BF1  
KevinBBWC : 11/30/2016 2:17 pm : link
Never thought I like it as much as I do.
FF9 is a masterpiece  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 2:52 pm : link
was one of the harder games in the series and had the best characters along with 6 and 7. Wish they would remake or even remaster it but I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
Yeah that one was good  
Overseer : 11/30/2016 3:29 pm : link
Played it way back when it first came out, so memory is foggy but remember being really into it and loving the characters (esp the little mage).

It's probably on PSN, maybe I'll give it another play through when I have some free time.
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UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13241572 Overseer said:
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Played it way back when it first came out, so memory is foggy but remember being really into it and loving the characters (esp the little mage).

It's probably on PSN, maybe I'll give it another play through when I have some free time.


Its on PSN. Was going to download it on my old PSP over the summer but that thing bit the dust.
RE: FF9 is a masterpiece  
Brown Recluse : 11/30/2016 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13241522 UConn4523 said:
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was one of the harder games in the series and had the best characters along with 6 and 7. Wish they would remake or even remaster it but I don't think that will happen anytime soon.


I liked that one as well.
RE: FF9 is a masterpiece  
Jan in DC : 11/30/2016 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13241522 UConn4523 said:
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was one of the harder games in the series and had the best characters along with 6 and 7. Wish they would remake or even remaster it but I don't think that will happen anytime soon.


I agree with this. FF9 was so good for me. Sweet spot between nostalgia and modern mechanics. I couldn't stand FF8. Draw system was awful and hitting square a billion times you used a summon? Ugh.
the summons...  
RasputinPrime : 11/30/2016 4:49 pm : link
whoa boy. Some epic scale going on here.
Vivi/Steiner  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 5:00 pm : link
was the best combo of character in the series and not just in battle. Their stories and dialogue were top notch. They completely over shadowed the pretty bland main character.
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Overseer : 11/30/2016 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13241683 Jan in DC said:
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I agree with this. FF9 was so good for me. Sweet spot between nostalgia and modern mechanics. I couldn't stand FF8. Draw system was awful and hitting square a billion times you used a summon? Ugh.

haha, the "boost" mechanism. F'ing awful indeed. Carpal tunnel central.

FF8 was flawed for sure. Lots of needless frustration (assembling weapons sucked too). But it had its moments, with a nice soundtrack, and as I said earlier the card game was amazing. The one in 9 (arrows instead of numbers) didn't quite live up.

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Moondawg : 11/30/2016 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13241466 Overseer said:
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Lol.

I wonder why people crap on FF8 (not you, I take you to be sincere); it was a fun, engrossing game. Of course, after 7, everything would pale, but it rarely gets mentioned.


Mixed feelings on 8. Disliked it first time through, then many years later I re-played on an emulator and basically focused above all on the sensational card game with game advancement secondary. That entertained me a lot. And the game itself wasn't without sweet moments (Queen assassination attempt, e.g.)

I remember really liking 9. 10 too except I hated Blitzball so have mixed memories of that one.

The franchise overall is IMV just good, not great. Except for the 1 obvious exception (talking Playstation 1 and above...the early games, esp 6, have their own charm) which Square's reputation is largely based on.

Video games have come so ridiculously far since 97 when Square was a primo outfit. Now any number of companies caught up and then some, esp in formerly lagging America (Naughty Dog, Blizz which blew away every other MMORPG, Insomniac) so Final Fantasy doesn't feel "special" anymore. I am still drawn to them though, and will give 15 a shot soon.


Makes sense, thanks.
Blitz ball could have been good  
UConn4523 : 11/30/2016 7:17 pm : link
but it became so ridiculously easy that it was pointless. FFX in general was far too easy, which is my biggest gripe, but it was excellent in many areas (graphics, battle, sphere grid) to name a few.
All the FF's minus XII  
TurdFurguson : 11/30/2016 11:28 pm : link
Are available on Steam for PC
FF XV shipped 5 million units worldwide  
Jackson Ellis : 12/1/2016 10:28 am : link
Fastest selling title in the series. It was previously FF XIII, but sales eventually tapered off. I believe the best selling in the series overall is FF VII at 11 million.

It's great this game is doing very well. I'm enjoying the first two hours of it and looking to dedicate a big chunk of my weekend for it, plus watching the Kingsglaive movie and Brotherhood anime. I like the combat and I find the banter of the 4 friends to be great/have some funny moments. Cindy's southern accent is extremely annoying, however. I'll get over it haha
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Southern accent?  
Brown Recluse : 12/1/2016 10:31 am : link
Eastern voice acting is bad enough. I can't imagine how much worse a southern accent would be.
With the whole daisy dukes thing  
Jackson Ellis : 12/1/2016 10:37 am : link
she's got going on, they really should have gotten a voice actress that sounds like Megan Fox or something. Ironically, I think she's from the South, but at least she doesn't have that hillbilly accent.
Chapters 7-12  
RasputinPrime : 12/1/2016 3:53 pm : link
are way too streamlined for my liking. Maybe it is that we are pressing hard to get through the story by tomorrow but there are some horrible gaps in the way the story is being told.

Still far too much good along the way but subject to one heckuva prestige, I can see why some of the early reviews have kept this in the 8.2-8.7 range.
RE: Chapters 7-12  
UConn4523 : 12/1/2016 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13243107 RasputinPrime said:
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are way too streamlined for my liking. Maybe it is that we are pressing hard to get through the story by tomorrow but there are some horrible gaps in the way the story is being told.

Still far too much good along the way but subject to one heckuva prestige, I can see why some of the early reviews have kept this in the 8.2-8.7 range.


What's your take on 9? I'm debating dusting off the PS3 or PSP and making a run through 9 before deciding on 15. 7 i've played to death and the only other i'd consider is 10 since its an HD remaster, but the largest gap in time from playing has been 9.
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