I just saw that. They might as well just shut the dude down. So frustrating.
Was just about to say that. I have no idea why they are playing him other than being 6-5 and maaaaybe making the playoffs. I guess the Bills are banking on the AFC being pretty weak this year since they are only a game out of the hunt (same record as the Steelers).
Based on your answer above, you are still wondering why a professional sports team (in a playoff hunt no less) would want its best player on the field this season? It's not like if he re-aggrevates it he's at risk of his career ending. No brainer they need to keep trying and hold off on IR as long as possible.
Frustrating as a fantasy owner to say the least
I was being facetious in part. I realize why which I explained, but long term it makes no sense. I actually disagree on the injury. I'm not a doctor but if he requires another surgery that just weakens his foot even more and could have long term implications (one could argue those implications are already happening).
As far as fantasy goes, most Watkins owners got him for nothing as a FA so I can't really sympathize with you guys, no offense. I sympathize more with those who drafted him high and got burned. He's a player I will always avoid in fantasy just like I do with Jamaal Charles.
Sometimes there's a good option to a position problem. This week, it's going to have to be a 'less bad' option for a TE... Gronk and Cam Newton have really put a damper on my FF team this year.
Cam owner here too and he's been the only QB on my roster for most of the season. Just picked up Kaepernick though and I'm almost considering starting him against the Bears. Its hysterical since I loathe him but with money on the line I need to use my brain.
Lots of people dumped him when he got hurt and Gates started going off, but he got more targets than Gates last week and I think that he may be back on the upswing. Bucs D is kind of porous, so might be worth a thought.
not sure what you're saying... I drafted him in the 3rd round, hadnt heard the foot was bothering him in preseason (plus the guy in front of me nabbed Evans who i'd earmarked the prior 10 picks and I was flustered/panicked on the shot clock a bit).
and trying to NOT over-react based upon last week. I have been good about not letting one week's performance sway my plan or make me pick up a marginal guy because he "went off"
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
and trying to NOT over-react based upon last week. I have been good about not letting one week's performance sway my plan or make me pick up a marginal guy because he "went off"
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
Sometimes there's a good option to a position problem. This week, it's going to have to be a 'less bad' option for a TE... Gronk and Cam Newton have really put a damper on my FF team this year.
Cam owner here too and he's been the only QB on my roster for most of the season. Just picked up Kaepernick though and I'm almost considering starting him against the Bears. Its hysterical since I loathe him but with money on the line I need to use my brain.
not sure what you're saying... I drafted him in the 3rd round, hadnt heard the foot was bothering him in preseason (plus the guy in front of me nabbed Evans who i'd earmarked the prior 10 picks and I was flustered/panicked on the shot clock a bit).
So you held him this whole time taking up a bench spot or did you use an IR spot? if he held you hostage all year that definitely sucks, I just assumed you picked him up the last week or two.
not sure what you're saying... I drafted him in the 3rd round, hadnt heard the foot was bothering him in preseason (plus the guy in front of me nabbed Evans who i'd earmarked the prior 10 picks and I was flustered/panicked on the shot clock a bit).
So you held him this whole time taking up a bench spot or did you use an IR spot? if he held you hostage all year that definitely sucks, I just assumed you picked him up the last week or two.
We have 4 IR slots. I never understood leagues that forced you to cut badly injured players.
and trying to NOT over-react based upon last week. I have been good about not letting one week's performance sway my plan or make me pick up a marginal guy because he "went off"
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
The Ebron bullshit came out of nowhere last week (had him too). I have to think he bounces back in a shootout in New Orleans sunday.
and trying to NOT over-react based upon last week. I have been good about not letting one week's performance sway my plan or make me pick up a marginal guy because he "went off"
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
I kind of like Thomas or Fiedorowicz there
I'd go Ertz. Thomas is likely to miss this week's game and Fiedorowicz has a shoulder injury as well that might limit him.
Brees is my QB. My main decision is M. Thomas over Dez as well as if Luck is playing to start TY or not.
or Maybe M. Thomas over Booker as flex.
Ok. My turn to screw you!
Id go
Brees
Ajayi, McCoy
Thomas, Hilton
ARob
Booker gets the bellcow of reps, however he hasnt really produced. I think rhodes shadows Dez and limits him. And the Jags offense is so bad, that they will force the ball to ARob, despite Talib following him.
they always force the ball to A-rob in JAX. and he drops it or it's a bad pass. Bortles (and to a similar extent A-rob) has to be among the leagues biggest disappointments this year.
for fantasy this year, but I nailed the Bortles one. He was a very poor QB last year, but garbage time TDs led to respectable lines and good for fantasy. What you are seeing this year is a better defense keeping games close, not giving Bortles as many garbage time TDs (of course I went up against him when he did damage down 30 to the titans on a TNF).
Have to disagree there. Arob can't produce against bad defenses... now he faces Denver's pass D in a low scoring game.
MT has been on fire and will be part of a 41-38 game.
No brianer IMO. (of course i have Snead... who will have 4 catches for 40 yards again as a distant #4 in their passing game.. mayeb he'll throw for one again at least to give me decent scoring)
Have to disagree there. Arob can't produce against bad defenses... now he faces Denver's pass D in a low scoring game.
MT has been on fire and will be part of a 41-38 game.
No brianer IMO. (of course i have Snead... who will have 4 catches for 40 yards again as a distant #4 in their passing game.. mayeb he'll throw for one again at least to give me decent scoring)
That's my only hesitation. New Orleans scored 49 points last week and Cooks had 0 catches on 0 targets.
Can easily be Thomas this week with the options that offense has.
I think Thomas emerging as a Brees go-to-guy, but who knows there.
for fantasy this year, but I nailed the Bortles one. He was a very poor QB last year, but garbage time TDs led to respectable lines and good for fantasy. What you are seeing this year is a better defense keeping games close, not giving Bortles as many garbage time TDs (of course I went up against him when he did damage down 30 to the titans on a TNF).
I agreed on this one when prepping for the draft, just didn't see how a QB that bad would duplicate his production. His play is mind boggling.
it obviously helps Bennett but is Dion Lewis in play now? Gronk was averaging 20 yards a catch (holy shit). Not sure what his average depth of target was but I'd have to assume there's gonna be a lot more underneath stuff. Bennett isn't exactly a burner downfield anymore and neither is edelman.
You and I have not shared great advice with each other lately(I recommended dropping Kelley, you recommended Tenn defense over Pitt). That being said, opinions are like aholes, we all got em and yours stinks more than mine....
Snead and Forte.
I really do like Rawls a lot, but I have to go Forte(same decision on my team). Until Rawls has that breakout game, I gotta give the edge to Forte who is playing a bad run defense.
NO vs Det has to be a high scoring affair. It just has to be.
I'd go forte. First choice is harder for sure, philly has terrible corners but that D line against cincy's o line is gonna be a brutal beat down. It's a toss up IMO.
Would you go Lewis vs LA over Crabtree vs Buffalo now that gronk is out?
Agree. We drafted early and when I drafted him Romo was still the QB. Prescott threw 18 passes last night.
Even with Bryant who had 33% of his targets, it was just 6 targets.
I have had Dez on my fantasy team but will usually opt for another option while drafting IF there was a comparable player available. Simply because my perception is that Dez gets hurt too often.
Now, seeing how much the Cowboys run vs throw that has to be factored into your decision making next year.
historically will end up not working a lot more times than it does work.
The problem with Dez is targets. He doesnt get as many as the top 5-7 in the league.
While that's true, he still is probably the best red zone threat in the entire league and scores TDs in more than half his games throughout his career. Also he averages a lot of yards per catch. Sure, he's probably not a top 3 fantasy WR he is with romo but I still find it hard to pick 10 WRs I'd rather have right now in fantasy, maybe even 5.
Deandre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, Fitzgerald and sanders are all top 10 in targets right now and I'd say that hasn't really worked all that well for them the way youd assume.
Agree. We drafted early and when I drafted him Romo was still the QB. Prescott threw 18 passes last night.
Even with Bryant who had 33% of his targets, it was just 6 targets.
I have had Dez on my fantasy team but will usually opt for another option while drafting IF there was a comparable player available. Simply because my perception is that Dez gets hurt too often.
Now, seeing how much the Cowboys run vs throw that has to be factored into your decision making next year.
I agree with this. I steered clear of him when drafting. But after his hairline fracture I bought him low with Russel Wilson, sims and Tyrelle williams.
I actually probably got ripped off with that one considering Tyrelle has been very solid but heading into the playoffs I feel pretty good about that trade.
RE: arc, we have similar teams so we have similar decisions....
You and I have not shared great advice with each other lately(I recommended dropping Kelley, you recommended Tenn defense over Pitt). That being said, opinions are like aholes, we all got em and yours stinks more than mine....
Snead and Forte.
I really do like Rawls a lot, but I have to go Forte(same decision on my team). Until Rawls has that breakout game, I gotta give the edge to Forte who is playing a bad run defense.
NO vs Det has to be a high scoring affair. It just has to be.
LOL, indeed... we've led each other astray a bit but it's all good.
I actually have it the way you said so I think I'm going to leave it be. I like Rawls a lot too but I think I need to see him have a bigger game before I get him back in there.
I'd go forte. First choice is harder for sure, philly has terrible corners but that D line against cincy's o line is gonna be a brutal beat down. It's a toss up IMO.
Would you go Lewis vs LA over Crabtree vs Buffalo now that gronk is out?
I'd probably give a slight edge to Crabtree.. it's a tough call though.
5.9 yards per touch. I think they'll start using him more and more.
not sure if this is his breakout week or not though.
The thing is I don't know if I should be worried about Carr's pinkie. Buffalo's defense isn't too shabby either although I don't really know how the pass defense is.
It's only been 2 weeks but I feel like Lewis has a higher floor than Crabtree for some reason. But I'm probably wrong.
I actually have it the way you said so I think I'm going to leave it be. I like Rawls a lot too but I think I need to see him have a bigger game before I get him back in there.
I'd go Forte and Marvin Jones above. Snead sucks, totally touchdown dependent and 4th option in the passing attack.
RE: RE: RE: arc, we have similar teams so we have similar decisions....
I actually have it the way you said so I think I'm going to leave it be. I like Rawls a lot too but I think I need to see him have a bigger game before I get him back in there.
I'd go Forte and Marvin Jones above. Snead sucks, totally touchdown dependent and 4th option in the passing attack.
I do think Marvin is going to see an uptick in production in December.. he saw 11 targets on Thanksgiving but he's still sort of hard to trust. He's had a lot of very crappy games since his blazing start.
Snead is no great shakes but he has a pretty high floor in that offense. Even without being a primary option he usually sees 7-8 targets a week and is good for about 5 catches.
I just worry about playing Marvin and getting a total egg. He's been really underwhelming in like 5 of their last 6 games.
Man, right when I was ready to concede the Marvin vs Tate
to pick someone to fill my flex spot in a 0.5 PPR league. Would you guys recommend starting Dion Lewis, Darren Sproles, Michael Floyd or Cameron Meredith?
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I just saw that. They might as well just shut the dude down. So frustrating.
Was just about to say that. I have no idea why they are playing him other than being 6-5 and maaaaybe making the playoffs. I guess the Bills are banking on the AFC being pretty weak this year since they are only a game out of the hunt (same record as the Steelers).
Based on your answer above, you are still wondering why a professional sports team (in a playoff hunt no less) would want its best player on the field this season? It's not like if he re-aggrevates it he's at risk of his career ending. No brainer they need to keep trying and hold off on IR as long as possible.
Frustrating as a fantasy owner to say the least
I was being facetious in part. I realize why which I explained, but long term it makes no sense. I actually disagree on the injury. I'm not a doctor but if he requires another surgery that just weakens his foot even more and could have long term implications (one could argue those implications are already happening).
As far as fantasy goes, most Watkins owners got him for nothing as a FA so I can't really sympathize with you guys, no offense. I sympathize more with those who drafted him high and got burned. He's a player I will always avoid in fantasy just like I do with Jamaal Charles.
Cam owner here too and he's been the only QB on my roster for most of the season. Just picked up Kaepernick though and I'm almost considering starting him against the Bears. Its hysterical since I loathe him but with money on the line I need to use my brain.
Arc, the only potential switch is moving Rawls into your flex spot instead.
8 team league?
Ajayi at Baltimore
Howard vs. San Fran
Miller at GB
Now pick 2.
J. Matthews at Cincy
Watkins at Oakland
GB vs. Houston
Landry at Baltimore
Right now my team looks like:
Brees
Howard, Ajayi
OBJ, Adams, Watkins
Forte
Haushka
Bengals
Ajayi, Howard and Miller
the #2 choice option confuse me with the defense mixed in
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
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Sometimes there's a good option to a position problem. This week, it's going to have to be a 'less bad' option for a TE... Gronk and Cam Newton have really put a damper on my FF team this year.
Cam owner here too and he's been the only QB on my roster for most of the season. Just picked up Kaepernick though and I'm almost considering starting him against the Bears. Its hysterical since I loathe him but with money on the line I need to use my brain.
Money talks!
So you held him this whole time taking up a bench spot or did you use an IR spot? if he held you hostage all year that definitely sucks, I just assumed you picked him up the last week or two.
4 point passing TDs
4 point passing TDs
Maybe wait and see what the weather looks like. I would lean towards Carr IF his hand was healthy. You need to wait on that too.
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not sure what you're saying... I drafted him in the 3rd round, hadnt heard the foot was bothering him in preseason (plus the guy in front of me nabbed Evans who i'd earmarked the prior 10 picks and I was flustered/panicked on the shot clock a bit).
So you held him this whole time taking up a bench spot or did you use an IR spot? if he held you hostage all year that definitely sucks, I just assumed you picked him up the last week or two.
We have 4 IR slots. I never understood leagues that forced you to cut badly injured players.
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
The Ebron bullshit came out of nowhere last week (had him too). I have to think he bounces back in a shootout in New Orleans sunday.
* is who I have in now:
WR
Dez @MIN*
TY @NYJ*
A-Rob vs DEN
M. Jones @NO
M. Thomas vs DET
RB
Ajayi @BAL*
McCoy @OAK*
Booker @JAX* (flex)
D. Murray bye
Brees is my QB. My main decision is M. Thomas over Dez as well as if Luck is playing to start TY or not.
or Maybe M. Thomas over Booker as flex.
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and trying to NOT over-react based upon last week. I have been good about not letting one week's performance sway my plan or make me pick up a marginal guy because he "went off"
IN a full point PPR league I have Gates and Ebron. Both put up a ZERO last week so it did not matter who I played.
Available on waivers is...
Ertz
Fiedorwicz (or however u spell the fuckers'name)
Tye
Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry
What do you think about dropping one of my TEs to go with one of these other scrubs?
I kind of like Thomas or Fiedorowicz there
I'd go Ertz. Thomas is likely to miss this week's game and Fiedorowicz has a shoulder injury as well that might limit him.
* is who I have in now:
WR
Dez @MIN*
TY @NYJ*
A-Rob vs DEN
M. Jones @NO
M. Thomas vs DET
RB
Ajayi @BAL*
McCoy @OAK*
Booker @JAX* (flex)
D. Murray bye
Brees is my QB. My main decision is M. Thomas over Dez as well as if Luck is playing to start TY or not.
or Maybe M. Thomas over Booker as flex.
Ok. My turn to screw you!
Id go
Brees
Ajayi, McCoy
Thomas, Hilton
ARob
Booker gets the bellcow of reps, however he hasnt really produced. I think rhodes shadows Dez and limits him. And the Jags offense is so bad, that they will force the ball to ARob, despite Talib following him.
they always force the ball to A-rob in JAX. and he drops it or it's a bad pass. Bortles (and to a similar extent A-rob) has to be among the leagues biggest disappointments this year.
MT has been on fire and will be part of a 41-38 game.
No brianer IMO. (of course i have Snead... who will have 4 catches for 40 yards again as a distant #4 in their passing game.. mayeb he'll throw for one again at least to give me decent scoring)
MT has been on fire and will be part of a 41-38 game.
No brianer IMO. (of course i have Snead... who will have 4 catches for 40 yards again as a distant #4 in their passing game.. mayeb he'll throw for one again at least to give me decent scoring)
That's my only hesitation. New Orleans scored 49 points last week and Cooks had 0 catches on 0 targets.
Can easily be Thomas this week with the options that offense has.
I think Thomas emerging as a Brees go-to-guy, but who knows there.
I agreed on this one when prepping for the draft, just didn't see how a QB that bad would duplicate his production. His play is mind boggling.
Dez @MIN
M. Thomas vs DET
Booker @JAX
which two do you pick?
Right now I have Dez and Booker, but I could start any of the three. M. Thomas is becoming a must-start.
I hate having options. And this is not even considering Allen Robinson who I'm done with I think.
Dez @MIN
M. Thomas vs DET
Booker @JAX
which two do you pick?
Right now I have Dez and Booker, but I could start any of the three. M. Thomas is becoming a must-start.
I hate having options. And this is not even considering Allen Robinson who I'm done with I think.
Yes of course Dez but then if Thomas is at home then go with him. Booker has been underwhelming.
Jarvis Landry @ Bal
-or-
Michael Thomas vs Detroit
Actually it looked great until that cheap TD.
Actually it looked great until that cheap TD.
I was starting Dez anyway. Did you suggest to not start him?
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my master plan to screw pjcas worked!
Actually it looked great until that cheap TD.
I was starting Dez anyway. Did you suggest to not start him?
yes :(
Its been a bad fantasy year for me.
Snead vs DET
Boyd vs PHI
Marvin Jones @ NO
and
Forte vs IND
or
Rawls vs. CAR
Snead and Forte.
I really do like Rawls a lot, but I have to go Forte(same decision on my team). Until Rawls has that breakout game, I gotta give the edge to Forte who is playing a bad run defense.
NO vs Det has to be a high scoring affair. It just has to be.
Snead vs DET
Boyd vs PHI
Marvin Jones @ NO
and
Forte vs IND
or
Rawls vs. CAR
I'd go forte. First choice is harder for sure, philly has terrible corners but that D line against cincy's o line is gonna be a brutal beat down. It's a toss up IMO.
Would you go Lewis vs LA over Crabtree vs Buffalo now that gronk is out?
The problem with Dez is targets. He doesnt get as many as the top 5-7 in the league.
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historically will end up not working a lot more times than it does work.
The problem with Dez is targets. He doesnt get as many as the top 5-7 in the league.
Agree. We drafted early and when I drafted him Romo was still the QB. Prescott threw 18 passes last night.
Even with Bryant who had 33% of his targets, it was just 6 targets.
Agree. We drafted early and when I drafted him Romo was still the QB. Prescott threw 18 passes last night.
Even with Bryant who had 33% of his targets, it was just 6 targets.
I have had Dez on my fantasy team but will usually opt for another option while drafting IF there was a comparable player available. Simply because my perception is that Dez gets hurt too often.
Now, seeing how much the Cowboys run vs throw that has to be factored into your decision making next year.
Watkins @ Oak (assuming he is active)
Crowder @ AZ
Shephard @ Pitt
One spot is a flex so I also could play Marty B or P Perkins
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historically will end up not working a lot more times than it does work.
The problem with Dez is targets. He doesnt get as many as the top 5-7 in the league.
While that's true, he still is probably the best red zone threat in the entire league and scores TDs in more than half his games throughout his career. Also he averages a lot of yards per catch. Sure, he's probably not a top 3 fantasy WR he is with romo but I still find it hard to pick 10 WRs I'd rather have right now in fantasy, maybe even 5.
Deandre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, Fitzgerald and sanders are all top 10 in targets right now and I'd say that hasn't really worked all that well for them the way youd assume.
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Agree. We drafted early and when I drafted him Romo was still the QB. Prescott threw 18 passes last night.
Even with Bryant who had 33% of his targets, it was just 6 targets.
I have had Dez on my fantasy team but will usually opt for another option while drafting IF there was a comparable player available. Simply because my perception is that Dez gets hurt too often.
Now, seeing how much the Cowboys run vs throw that has to be factored into your decision making next year.
I agree with this. I steered clear of him when drafting. But after his hairline fracture I bought him low with Russel Wilson, sims and Tyrelle williams.
I actually probably got ripped off with that one considering Tyrelle has been very solid but heading into the playoffs I feel pretty good about that trade.
Snead and Forte.
I really do like Rawls a lot, but I have to go Forte(same decision on my team). Until Rawls has that breakout game, I gotta give the edge to Forte who is playing a bad run defense.
NO vs Det has to be a high scoring affair. It just has to be.
LOL, indeed... we've led each other astray a bit but it's all good.
I actually have it the way you said so I think I'm going to leave it be. I like Rawls a lot too but I think I need to see him have a bigger game before I get him back in there.
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Snead vs DET
Boyd vs PHI
Marvin Jones @ NO
and
Forte vs IND
or
Rawls vs. CAR
I'd go forte. First choice is harder for sure, philly has terrible corners but that D line against cincy's o line is gonna be a brutal beat down. It's a toss up IMO.
Would you go Lewis vs LA over Crabtree vs Buffalo now that gronk is out?
I'd probably give a slight edge to Crabtree.. it's a tough call though.
not sure if this is his breakout week or not though.
not sure if this is his breakout week or not though.
The thing is I don't know if I should be worried about Carr's pinkie. Buffalo's defense isn't too shabby either although I don't really know how the pass defense is.
It's only been 2 weeks but I feel like Lewis has a higher floor than Crabtree for some reason. But I'm probably wrong.
Can have 2:
Tyreek Hill or Jordan Matthews or Tim Hightower or Taylor Gabriel
and I'm between:
Chiefs D or Bengals D
I actually have it the way you said so I think I'm going to leave it be. I like Rawls a lot too but I think I need to see him have a bigger game before I get him back in there.
I'd go Forte and Marvin Jones above. Snead sucks, totally touchdown dependent and 4th option in the passing attack.
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I actually have it the way you said so I think I'm going to leave it be. I like Rawls a lot too but I think I need to see him have a bigger game before I get him back in there.
I'd go Forte and Marvin Jones above. Snead sucks, totally touchdown dependent and 4th option in the passing attack.
I do think Marvin is going to see an uptick in production in December.. he saw 11 targets on Thanksgiving but he's still sort of hard to trust. He's had a lot of very crappy games since his blazing start.
Snead is no great shakes but he has a pretty high floor in that offense. Even without being a primary option he usually sees 7-8 targets a week and is good for about 5 catches.
I just worry about playing Marvin and getting a total egg. He's been really underwhelming in like 5 of their last 6 games.