Is standing in the hallway talking to a female colleague while you put on your belt and tuck in your shirt an example of male privilege? I didn't think much of it at all, until someone got triggered this morning. I haven't even had my coffee yet.
of when people at my office are called a different name in email, some get furious. Happens to me all the time and I couldn't care less.
If I had a dollar for every time my last name is misspelled in correspondence after a phone conversation I'd be giving Gates and Buffett a run for their money. Just shrug it off like you did.
what's this called?
My buddy took that pic yesterday, commuting home on a train in Israel. "The dark side of putting outlets on public transportation."
It was on a tech podcast. The woman's explanation for what it was horrified me.
Basically to avoid micro-aggressions - never assume anything about anyone ever and never say anything ever to anyone you don't know already know everything about. Speak only in vague terms and only to people you know.
but less benign than you think. Certainly uncouth. What about zipping your fly (that actually goes both ways, since an unzipped fly is aggressive). What about opening your pants to tuck? What about slightly lowering them?
I dont re-tuck even in front of male colleagues. I wait until I have a little privacy.
RE: I actually finally heard the word(s) - micro-aggression
It was on a tech podcast. The woman's explanation for what it was horrified me.
Basically to avoid micro-aggressions - never assume anything about anyone ever and never say anything ever to anyone you don't know already know everything about. Speak only in vague terms and only to people you know.
Also: spend no time with oversensitive people who wouldn't hesitate to destroy you for hurting their feelings. In short, avoid crybullies.
puts on their belt and tucks their shirt in at work while in a hallway speaking to a female? Anything out of the ordinary is subject to a heightened awareness. If a woman was adjusting her bra in a hallway in front of men I'm sure somebody would do a double take b/c the action isn't ordinary.
Then again, I've seen some colleagues snort a line in clear view of many and nobody blinked.
puts on their belt and tucks their shirt in at work while in a hallway speaking to a female? Anything out of the ordinary is subject to a heightened awareness. If a woman was adjusting her bra in a hallway in front of men I'm sure somebody would do a double take b/c the action isn't ordinary.
Then again, I've seen some colleagues snort a line in clear view of many and nobody blinked.
You should not be grooming yourself in public, in general. You are putting people in your personal space and they may not want to be there.
is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
I know. It's incredible. Granted it's a no class, stupid thing to do, but was it that bad to cause any sane person to turn redder than her shirt with bulging eyeballs anger?
I would routinely unbutton my pants at my desk. I was project manager for 10 developers so there was no worry. We all know that women can't code so there was no one to offend.
I think you can make judgments about both parties here
yeah, it's probably odd to put on the belt and tucking in the short. Although, I've seen tons of guys tightening their shirts a bit in public (I am sure I've done it myself). Using someone's above example, I've seen many ladies adjusting their bra straps in public and pulling out wedgies as well. Heck, I used to work in a place where people cam in early to punch the clock and then take a half hour to put on their make-up from scratch at their desk. Now that was weird because they all looked like shit when they came and then (some anyway) turned to hot a little while later.
But you see these things, and you make a note about the person in your head and normal people move on and keep quiet. To make a public scene about it in response is way worse IMO. You've got to be a special kind of disturbed.
That you can't finish getting dressed at home ? Or in the bathroom at work ? You sound like an inappropriate douchebag who should get kicked in your male privileges with one of my heels.
Wait... You locked your office with her inside with you and then with your undone shirt took of your unzipped pants and belt and retucked your shirt?
I can see her point...
Now if you mean you locked your office from the hallway and adjusted yourself in the hallway that's just moderately rude more than anything. Assuming your dick wasn't out of course.
I was leaving my office to see another jeweler and locked up
I was outside in the hallway and tucked my shirt in. I didn't unzip my pants, just loosened the belt enough to tuck the shirt back in, and redid the belt. It's not like a I dropped trousers. I was in a rush and thought nothing of it.
not male privilege. A woman fixing a wardrobe issue might be in bad taste or immodest but unless it is couple with something more I doubt most men are triggered, and unless you're regularly sexually harassing women, if you're generally demure and respectful, I would imagine most would decline to find it offensive.
RE: I was leaving my office to see another jeweler and locked up I was outside in the hallway and tucked my shirt in. I didn't unzip my pants, just loosened the belt enough to tuck the shirt back in, and redid the belt. It's not like a I dropped trousers. I was in a rush and thought nothing of it.
This certainly changes the calculus. Was it a pick, or a scratch...? Were there any sounds resembling primal grunts...?
microaggressions, and the general culture of aggrievance will continue going forward or will fade away? Because if it's going to continue on its present trajectory, I don't want to be around to see where it leads. What a miserable world we'd live in.
BTW, pants tucking was kind of dumb under the circumstances described. I wouldn't handle it that way. A little more discretion was called for, but if somebody reacted it in a pissed manner spouting "male privilege" I'd be inclined to tell her to fuck off.
Just graduated college in May. Modern day Feminism is absolute garbage. I've never heard more nonsense, make believe, straw man bullshit in my life. You even get to learn about make-believe shit on college campuses such as #RapeCulture. Something how we as a society allow and like rape?
Just graduated college in May. Modern day Feminism is absolute garbage. I've never heard more nonsense, make believe, straw man bullshit in my life. You even get to learn about make-believe shit on college campuses such as #RapeCulture. Something how we as a society allow and like rape?
What a bunch of silly bullshit.
Insensitive Much?
Walk a mile in the other persons shoes..as the saying goes.
Also, Feminists arguments glamour from a view of perpetual victimhood. They just say these things because they mean nothing and want "the patriarchy" on their toes because they want you (the patriarchy) to feel like they're "the ones being ambushed. Fuck that hot garbage.
It's been done before "she", AT MY SCHOOL. literally, they had men in at Stockton University walking around in fucking heels. The people said they gladly declined, because what on earth does that accomplish? Even women around thought the idea was stupid.
They should have had you walk though a prison with male inmates who haven't had sex for years. Then you might have had an idea what is really out there. I don't think you would feel comfortable.
They should have had you walk though a prison with male inmates who haven't had sex for years. Then you might have had an idea what is really out there. I don't think you would feel comfortable.
They should have had you walk though a prison with male inmates who haven't had sex for years. Then you might have had an idea what is really out there. I don't think you would feel comfortable.
Also, Feminists arguments glamour from a view of perpetual victimhood. They just say these things because they mean nothing and want "the patriarchy" on their toes because they want you (the patriarchy) to feel like they're "the ones being ambushed. Fuck that hot garbage.
Never knew this stuff mattered, and wouldn't think twice about it. If someone got offended by me putting on a belt and tucking in my shirt I'd apologize and be done with it.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with any of it either way.
I would routinely unbutton my pants at my desk. I was project manager for 10 developers so there was no worry. We all know that women can't code so there was no one to offend.
but I don't think this even falls under inappropriate. I went to catholic school. If you didn't have the shirt tucked in tight you would hear about and you'd correct it right there and then. Between every class, you'd have a couple dozen kids making sure they look appropriate according to the dress code. So when my shirt comes loose, I re-tuck it. 99% of the time it's in my cube, but I wouldn't think twice of doing it in some hallway and probably have before. I've never had to undo my belt to do so, but unless you unbuttoned or unzipped your pants, I don't see anything remotely wrong. Hell, I've seen women many times re-adjust their button down shirts too. It's crazy to me that this would be an issue
Also, Feminists arguments glamour from a view of perpetual victimhood. They just say these things because they mean nothing and want "the patriarchy" on their toes because they want you (the patriarchy) to feel like they're "the ones being ambushed. Fuck that hot garbage.
9, it's something of a cult in much of the humanities. Jonathan Haidt (NYU) has done work on this that is instructive.
These academic feminists have hijacked a noble and important movement and turned it into something pretty much useless and divorced from the world of actual people.
How many people shaking their heads about microaggressions and claims of ___ privilege have disapproved of breast feeding in public/workplaces?
It's a male-dominated board. What would you expect?
I think that many of us can say that what David did was maybe thoughtless without bringing in the theology of microagggressions.
By the same standard, some things women may do would be thoughtless. (And I wouldn't include breastfeeding at all in this category)
Well that's my point. This thread is a bunch of guys sitting around bemoaning the fact that non-guys dont necessarily see things the same way we do, and declaring it their problem.
is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
lol, me too. I just laugh at them and tell them to fuck off as I and nobody cares. Remove their platform and they go away. The latest election was sort of a big middle finger to these types beyond the other stuff. As I tell my daughter, keep complaining about "the man" that is privileged and in charge. Eventually you will get your chance in the big seat and then you will come to understand they won't be satisfied with you either.
Problem with this stuff is that if you enable it..it then provides opportunity for political operators to hijack and use that opportunity to do something that more dramatically affects our lives and in most cases, an invisible hand in your pocket to fleece citizens. That is one big issue I had with the last POTUS, intentional division and race stoking, then using it as an opportunity to advance government agendas. As we saw over the last 8 years he has systematically destroyed the democratic party to an ash heap that requires rebuild. Now we have the cry babies looking at the ash heap wondering what happened because folks can't just solve the problems between themselves without help from Mum.
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You just micro agressed her you fucking monster by assuming she likes men and assuming it's normal to be with a man if you are a woman. If you replace husband with partner you still did a smaller micro aggression by asssuning she is with someone or should be with someone you ignorant pig dog.
Welcome to the modern world. Just don't speak to anyone ever and you might be okay lol.
I recall one of my first jobs in lower manhattan in the 80's. Grew up in VA, different cultural background for those that understand. So in my first few years there I would open doors for females when presented the opportunity, it was a default manners thing taught growing up. Imagine my surprise when I was greeted one day rudely and cursed at by another female. "You fucking chauvinist I can open my own door". So I adjust my behavior to just do nothing.... then one a different day and situation...from another female ...in this case not opening or holding the door..."What a fucking gentleman your are..."
Now it is like "leave me alone" unless it is my wife, daughter and women whom I know and understand or can get a good read on.
Again, its the social engineering platform weasels that enable this shit and outrage, otherwise I doubt anyone would make a big deal out of just random actions of individuals that actually have different viewpoints and ideals. Think about that for a moment. Do they want us all to follow a script with no identity as individuals? Seems like it to me. resist.
are following the French Enlightenment model; a model that suggests to 'change the nature of mankind'. Which led to all sorts of evils, the reign of terror, anarchism, communism and fascism and millions of deaths by murder.
Whereas we founded America on the Scottish Enlightenment model, which states that the 'proper study for man IS man'.
That is, to study how all people really are, universally, (the god given rights included) and build simpler, less intrusive and less numerous rules for people to live by. Rather that talk about 'types of people.'
Once on realizes that, just as the world is a mess of injustices in every conceivable direction, not according to any singular or simple narrative, but chaotic, it is far easier to let go of the never ending identity politics, never ending blame game and never ending specific narratives that have always been used to justify rackets of one kind or another.
here, there is just as much, if not more, room for freedom of your identity within our model, I am not any kind of hater.
Its just that screaming in the streets about how other people talk is an indicator of lack of tolerance for narratives that don't fit [any] model. And such lack of tolerance for outlying narratives has more in common with fascism than with freedom.
is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
This generation sucks. So much better were the generations when blacks, Hispanics, women, Jews etc. were second class citizens subject to violence, discrimination and verbal abuse just because white men were (obviously) better.
is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
lol, me too. I just laugh at them and tell them to fuck off as I and nobody cares. Remove their platform and they go away. The latest election was sort of a big middle finger to these types beyond the other stuff. As I tell my daughter, keep complaining about "the man" that is privileged and in charge. Eventually you will get your chance in the big seat and then you will come to understand they won't be satisfied with you either.
Problem with this stuff is that if you enable it..it then provides opportunity for political operators to hijack and use that opportunity to do something that more dramatically affects our lives and in most cases, an invisible hand in your pocket to fleece citizens. That is one big issue I had with the last POTUS, intentional division and race stoking, then using it as an opportunity to advance government agendas. As we saw over the last 8 years he has systematically destroyed the democratic party to an ash heap that requires rebuild. Now we have the cry babies looking at the ash heap wondering what happened because folks can't just solve the problems between themselves without help from Mum.
is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
This generation sucks. So much better were the generations when blacks, Hispanics, women, Jews etc. were second class citizens subject to violence, discrimination and verbal abuse just because white men were (obviously) better.
Heh.
In my humble and not very educated opinion, the idea of "safe spaces", "micro-agressions" and the like come from a very good, very noble place: That everyone deserves to be respected for who they are, regardless of differences- and that as a decent person you should do your best not to offend.
Unfortunately, on the extremes it has been warped into this idea of "meritless equality"- which instead of acknowledging differences (which include differing ability) and being ok with them, differences are dismissed and there is a demand to treat them equal...if that makes sense- I'm not always very good at articulating my point.
The simplest example is that of the gender wage gap, which exists for all sorts of reasons EXCEPT the one that is being fought against: that you don't have to pay a female the same amount as a male for the same amount of work. Equal pay for equal work is overwhelmingly the norm. Unfortunately there are those that believe that the differences between the genders that account for the wage gap (different types of careers chosen, less hours worked on average) shouldn't matter and that women should be payed the same regardless of those differences.
It leads to incorrect assumptions and perceptions that just aren't based in reality.
Now sure, there are folks on the fringes like you suggest that do have the "scared white man" mentality, but they're the fringe- just like the folks offended by someone assuming their gender is the fringe.
Deej, I don't think that everyone who finds the idea....
of safe spaces and microaggressions out of control wishes for a return to a world where equality didn't exist for the classes you mentioned. People can both be happy that their is greater equality in society and still recognize the foolishness that is out of control on college campuses and elsewhere. We've discussed here at length the danger inherent in stifling the free exchange of ideas that is becoming endangered in academia due to the concept of microaggressions and trigger warnings.
Like I've seen before on here, modern day college campuses are a joke. I've never heard some of these terms before going to school and wish I never did. Thank God for iPads and shit because I needed something to distract me when these terms were being presented as facts. What a waste of money.
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You just micro agressed her you fucking monster by assuming she likes men and assuming it's normal to be with a man if you are a woman. If you replace husband with partner you still did a smaller micro aggression by asssuning she is with someone or should be with someone you ignorant pig dog.
Welcome to the modern world. Just don't speak to anyone ever and you might be okay lol.
That's a terrible example. Coworkers normally know if someone is single or married.
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You just micro agressed her you fucking monster by assuming she likes men and assuming it's normal to be with a man if you are a woman. If you replace husband with partner you still did a smaller micro aggression by asssuning she is with someone or should be with someone you ignorant pig dog.
Welcome to the modern world. Just don't speak to anyone ever and you might be okay lol.
That's a terrible example. Coworkers normally know if someone is single or married.
And who assumes a woman has a husband?
Well someone has to take care of them once they move out of their parents' house.
How would they pay their bills?
People know all their coworkers on a personal level?
I do find it interesting to see your stance on this.
I do find it interesting to see your stance on this.
Right?
If I had a dollar for every time my last name is misspelled in correspondence after a phone conversation I'd be giving Gates and Buffett a run for their money. Just shrug it off like you did.
Broads have privileges.
This
My buddy took that pic yesterday, commuting home on a train in Israel. "The dark side of putting outlets on public transportation."
(more inappopriate than offensive really)
Basically to avoid micro-aggressions - never assume anything about anyone ever and never say anything ever to anyone you don't know already know everything about. Speak only in vague terms and only to people you know.
I dont re-tuck even in front of male colleagues. I wait until I have a little privacy.
Basically to avoid micro-aggressions - never assume anything about anyone ever and never say anything ever to anyone you don't know already know everything about. Speak only in vague terms and only to people you know.
Also: spend no time with oversensitive people who wouldn't hesitate to destroy you for hurting their feelings. In short, avoid crybullies.
Then again, I've seen some colleagues snort a line in clear view of many and nobody blinked.
Then again, I've seen some colleagues snort a line in clear view of many and nobody blinked.
You should not be grooming yourself in public, in general. You are putting people in your personal space and they may not want to be there.
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So if, on a windy day, I comb my hair after walking into a building it's a microaggression?
Is the young woman overreacting? Definitely
Then again, I've seen some colleagues snort a line in clear view of many and nobody blinked. [/quote]
Where the fuck do you work and are they hiring?
I know. It's incredible. Granted it's a no class, stupid thing to do, but was it that bad to cause any sane person to turn redder than her shirt with bulging eyeballs anger?
But you see these things, and you make a note about the person in your head and normal people move on and keep quiet. To make a public scene about it in response is way worse IMO. You've got to be a special kind of disturbed.
Wait... You locked your office with her inside with you and then with your undone shirt took of your unzipped pants and belt and retucked your shirt?
I can see her point...
Now if you mean you locked your office from the hallway and adjusted yourself in the hallway that's just moderately rude more than anything. Assuming your dick wasn't out of course.
Agreed. And for some reason I keep thinking of the Niemoller quote in the context of the PC police: "And then they came for me"
This certainly changes the calculus. Was it a pick, or a scratch...? Were there any sounds resembling primal grunts...?
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mostly because I've always considered David to be more the triggeree type than the triggerer. But, it's the internet...
Agreed. And for some reason I keep thinking of the Niemoller quote in the context of the PC police: "And then they came for me"
+1 I suspect it goes to needing to validate that he wasn't the bad guy in this situation. He went to the place where he knew he'd get some support.
BTW, pants tucking was kind of dumb under the circumstances described. I wouldn't handle it that way. A little more discretion was called for, but if somebody reacted it in a pissed manner spouting "male privilege" I'd be inclined to tell her to fuck off.
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mostly because I've always considered David to be more the triggeree type than the triggerer. But, it's the internet...
Agreed. And for some reason I keep thinking of the Niemoller quote in the context of the PC police: "And then they came for me"
+1 I suspect it goes to needing to validate that he wasn't the bad guy in this situation. He went to the place where he knew he'd get some support.
Appreciate the armchair psychoanalysis, but I only asked because I frankly had no idea this was a clear example of male privilege.
Is it a privilege or is it how other people want to be treated? If the former, then the implication is that others who are fine, just not privileged.
I just love all these new terms so people can place themselves into an advantageous position and that is all that it is - gaining an advantage.
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mostly because I've always considered David to be more the triggeree type than the triggerer. But, it's the internet...
Agreed. And for some reason I keep thinking of the Niemoller quote in the context of the PC police: "And then they came for me"
I dont think the situations are all that analogous.
+1 I suspect it goes to needing to validate that he wasn't the bad guy in this situation. He went to the place where he knew he'd get some support.
Appreciate the armchair psychoanalysis, but I only asked because I frankly had no idea this was a clear example of male privilege.
For as sanctimonious as you are in some of these threads, you have to realize this thread comes across as peculiar.
What a bunch of silly bullshit.
What a bunch of silly bullshit.
Insensitive Much?
Walk a mile in the other persons shoes..as the saying goes.
Also, Feminists arguments glamour from a view of perpetual victimhood. They just say these things because they mean nothing and want "the patriarchy" on their toes because they want you (the patriarchy) to feel like they're "the ones being ambushed. Fuck that hot garbage.
You calling me ugly?
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They should have had you walk though a prison with male inmates who haven't had sex for years. Then you might have had an idea what is really out there. I don't think you would feel comfortable.
You calling me ugly?
if that floats your boat then fine.
good luck
Also, Feminists arguments glamour from a view of perpetual victimhood. They just say these things because they mean nothing and want "the patriarchy" on their toes because they want you (the patriarchy) to feel like they're "the ones being ambushed. Fuck that hot garbage.
You must have learned a lot at college.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with any of it either way.
Haha!
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You should not be grooming yourself in public, in general. You are putting people in your personal space and they may not want to be there.
So if, on a windy day, I comb my hair after walking into a building it's a microaggression?
Depends on whether or not you lick the comb.
Also, Feminists arguments glamour from a view of perpetual victimhood. They just say these things because they mean nothing and want "the patriarchy" on their toes because they want you (the patriarchy) to feel like they're "the ones being ambushed. Fuck that hot garbage.
9, it's something of a cult in much of the humanities. Jonathan Haidt (NYU) has done work on this that is instructive.
These academic feminists have hijacked a noble and important movement and turned it into something pretty much useless and divorced from the world of actual people.
How many people shaking their heads about microaggressions and claims of ___ privilege have disapproved of breast feeding in public/workplaces?
How many people shaking their heads about microaggressions and claims of ___ privilege have disapproved of breast feeding in public/workplaces?
It's a male-dominated board. What would you expect?
I think that many of us can say that what David did was maybe thoughtless without bringing in the theology of microagggressions.
By the same standard, some things women may do would be thoughtless. (And I wouldn't include breastfeeding at all in this category)
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this is obviously a male dominated thread.
How many people shaking their heads about microaggressions and claims of ___ privilege have disapproved of breast feeding in public/workplaces?
It's a male-dominated board. What would you expect?
I think that many of us can say that what David did was maybe thoughtless without bringing in the theology of microagggressions.
By the same standard, some things women may do would be thoughtless. (And I wouldn't include breastfeeding at all in this category)
Well that's my point. This thread is a bunch of guys sitting around bemoaning the fact that non-guys dont necessarily see things the same way we do, and declaring it their problem.
First World Problems.
Asking or Saying something what someone sees as harmless as racist or whatever.
Like politely asking a person "you don't speak Spanish?" Because the person thinks they speak that based on what people or whatever
I think
lol, me too. I just laugh at them and tell them to fuck off as I and nobody cares. Remove their platform and they go away. The latest election was sort of a big middle finger to these types beyond the other stuff. As I tell my daughter, keep complaining about "the man" that is privileged and in charge. Eventually you will get your chance in the big seat and then you will come to understand they won't be satisfied with you either.
Problem with this stuff is that if you enable it..it then provides opportunity for political operators to hijack and use that opportunity to do something that more dramatically affects our lives and in most cases, an invisible hand in your pocket to fleece citizens. That is one big issue I had with the last POTUS, intentional division and race stoking, then using it as an opportunity to advance government agendas. As we saw over the last 8 years he has systematically destroyed the democratic party to an ash heap that requires rebuild. Now we have the cry babies looking at the ash heap wondering what happened because folks can't just solve the problems between themselves without help from Mum.
Prepare to have your mind blown.
Here is an example I heard:
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You just micro agressed her you fucking monster by assuming she likes men and assuming it's normal to be with a man if you are a woman. If you replace husband with partner you still did a smaller micro aggression by asssuning she is with someone or should be with someone you ignorant pig dog.
Welcome to the modern world. Just don't speak to anyone ever and you might be okay lol.
Now it is like "leave me alone" unless it is my wife, daughter and women whom I know and understand or can get a good read on.
Again, its the social engineering platform weasels that enable this shit and outrage, otherwise I doubt anyone would make a big deal out of just random actions of individuals that actually have different viewpoints and ideals. Think about that for a moment. Do they want us all to follow a script with no identity as individuals? Seems like it to me. resist.
Whereas we founded America on the Scottish Enlightenment model, which states that the 'proper study for man IS man'.
That is, to study how all people really are, universally, (the god given rights included) and build simpler, less intrusive and less numerous rules for people to live by. Rather that talk about 'types of people.'
Once on realizes that, just as the world is a mess of injustices in every conceivable direction, not according to any singular or simple narrative, but chaotic, it is far easier to let go of the never ending identity politics, never ending blame game and never ending specific narratives that have always been used to justify rackets of one kind or another.
Its just that screaming in the streets about how other people talk is an indicator of lack of tolerance for narratives that don't fit [any] model. And such lack of tolerance for outlying narratives has more in common with fascism than with freedom.
This generation sucks. So much better were the generations when blacks, Hispanics, women, Jews etc. were second class citizens subject to violence, discrimination and verbal abuse just because white men were (obviously) better.
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is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
lol, me too. I just laugh at them and tell them to fuck off as I and nobody cares. Remove their platform and they go away. The latest election was sort of a big middle finger to these types beyond the other stuff. As I tell my daughter, keep complaining about "the man" that is privileged and in charge. Eventually you will get your chance in the big seat and then you will come to understand they won't be satisfied with you either.
Problem with this stuff is that if you enable it..it then provides opportunity for political operators to hijack and use that opportunity to do something that more dramatically affects our lives and in most cases, an invisible hand in your pocket to fleece citizens. That is one big issue I had with the last POTUS, intentional division and race stoking, then using it as an opportunity to advance government agendas. As we saw over the last 8 years he has systematically destroyed the democratic party to an ash heap that requires rebuild. Now we have the cry babies looking at the ash heap wondering what happened because folks can't just solve the problems between themselves without help from Mum.
And here I thought the dinosaurs were extinct.
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is how easy it is get someone so ass-hurt and straight up mad over little to nothing. I have a great time with it in my day to day life.
This generation sucks. So much better were the generations when blacks, Hispanics, women, Jews etc. were second class citizens subject to violence, discrimination and verbal abuse just because white men were (obviously) better.
Heh.
In my humble and not very educated opinion, the idea of "safe spaces", "micro-agressions" and the like come from a very good, very noble place: That everyone deserves to be respected for who they are, regardless of differences- and that as a decent person you should do your best not to offend.
Unfortunately, on the extremes it has been warped into this idea of "meritless equality"- which instead of acknowledging differences (which include differing ability) and being ok with them, differences are dismissed and there is a demand to treat them equal...if that makes sense- I'm not always very good at articulating my point.
The simplest example is that of the gender wage gap, which exists for all sorts of reasons EXCEPT the one that is being fought against: that you don't have to pay a female the same amount as a male for the same amount of work. Equal pay for equal work is overwhelmingly the norm. Unfortunately there are those that believe that the differences between the genders that account for the wage gap (different types of careers chosen, less hours worked on average) shouldn't matter and that women should be payed the same regardless of those differences.
It leads to incorrect assumptions and perceptions that just aren't based in reality.
Now sure, there are folks on the fringes like you suggest that do have the "scared white man" mentality, but they're the fringe- just like the folks offended by someone assuming their gender is the fringe.
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Is that like a mad little person?
Prepare to have your mind blown.
Here is an example I heard:
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You just micro agressed her you fucking monster by assuming she likes men and assuming it's normal to be with a man if you are a woman. If you replace husband with partner you still did a smaller micro aggression by asssuning she is with someone or should be with someone you ignorant pig dog.
Welcome to the modern world. Just don't speak to anyone ever and you might be okay lol.
That's a terrible example. Coworkers normally know if someone is single or married.
And who assumes a woman has a husband?
It ain't my world or my view.
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In comment 13244422 WideRight said:
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Is that like a mad little person?
Prepare to have your mind blown.
Here is an example I heard:
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You just micro agressed her you fucking monster by assuming she likes men and assuming it's normal to be with a man if you are a woman. If you replace husband with partner you still did a smaller micro aggression by asssuning she is with someone or should be with someone you ignorant pig dog.
Welcome to the modern world. Just don't speak to anyone ever and you might be okay lol.
That's a terrible example. Coworkers normally know if someone is single or married.
And who assumes a woman has a husband?
Well someone has to take care of them once they move out of their parents' house.
How would they pay their bills?
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Seems to leave you as someone who assumes all women have husbands, and decides to verbalize it.
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Does everyone here work at an office of 10 people?
Seems to leave you as someone who assumes all women have husbands, and decides to verbalize it.
Keep reaching. Reading obviously isn't your strong suit and that's no assumption.
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In comment 13245442 Patrick77 said:
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Does everyone here work at an office of 10 people?
Seems to leave you as someone who assumes all women have husbands, and decides to verbalize it.
Keep reaching. Reading obviously isn't your strong suit and that's no assumption.
This was your example:
You are talking to a female coworker and say: " will your husband be coming to the Christmas party?"
You have a female coworker you don't know, you're assuming they're married, and asking a question based on the assumption.
I agree this is idiotic, but probably not for the same reasons you do.