NFT: Yanks talk 12-1

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Nats certainly have the pieces. If they fall short, they might have interest in Gardner who gives you some of the same qualities, albeit in (mostly) lesser fashion.

I'm inherently nervous about anyone who's big production has come in Toronto (I'm a cynic who still believes there are PEDs in baseball, and especially north of the border). But EE has been a .900 OPS guy year in and year out and we need a big run producer, and at 33 he should still have some big production years left.

I also think we need a lefty bat (or switch hitter who's strong hitting lefty like Beltran)...it's probably a stretch to expect Greg Bird to be our big run producting lefty bat after a year on the shelf, despite his time in the fall league

Trouble is, Beltran is essentially a pure DH now. At least EE can play some 1B.

Big no to Bautista for me, he just had his worst year in Toronto at age 35, the odds of him being worth a big FA contract are slim IMO

What do you guys think, what hitter(s) will we sign?

Heard John Heyman on WFAN this morning, he said he thinks Yanks wil get their guy in Chapman for the bullpen. He said he thinks Jansen might actually be the better option, but the Yanks prefer not to give up a pick in signing a closer.

Rather have the big bat DH. His numbers went down last year.

In comment 13242719 mdthedream said:

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Rather have the big bat DH. His numbers went down last year.

I would rather have a DH on a one-year deal to allow flexibility. There are plenty of nice bats that could help the lineup- Holiday, Beltran, etc.

I think that the Yanks should shift to a model where they bring in older players who are still productive at the end of a nice career on one-year deals and preserve their flexibility to shift to plan B without much cost. I believe that this was the model they used to bring in Strawberry, Raines and others years ago. Keep a strong young core and just tinker at the edges with vets.

Are not signing Encarnacion, if you even think that way then you simply are not paying attention at all. They will try to sign Beltran to a 1 year deal, if he wants 2 years then enter Holiday, Napoli, and Moss also, whoever they could get on a short term contract, but those are the names the Yanks would be in on.

They are also in on a closer, we all know Chapman and Jansen are the two big names, but they want Chapman, no doubt.

They also want a starter, the names Hammel and hill are the main targets.

Forget Encarnacion, he is not coming here, the Yanks don't want to go more then 2 years, why would he take less? Only if he has to is the answer, if he came down in years then maybe, but I don't see that at all.

Maybe they get Pedro Alvarez on the cheap? Maybe him and Beltran might work, and give us some 1B/3B (i think he can still play a bit there) flexibility.

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like we won't see Otani until 2019 under the new rules. That sucks

In comment 13242961 DanMetroMan said:

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like we won't see Otani until 2019 under the new rules. That sucks

I thought the 25 rule only applied to amateurs(like Cuban players), not pros like Otani. Anyone clear on this?

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In comment 13242961 DanMetroMan said: Quote: like we won't see Otani until 2019 under the new rules. That sucks I thought the 25 rule only applied to amateurs(like Cuban players), not pros like Otani. Anyone clear on this?

JJ Cooper just tweeted out Otani would be capped at 6 million until he were a true FA post 2018 season.

Passan has confirmed Cooper's comments. So unless there is an adjustment no Otani until post 2018.

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noted this in theory would impact big Cuban players but says those guys don't currently exist, island has been bled dry of guys in that age range of top guys.

trading for Greinke? Would a deal involving Jake Lamb and Greinke coming to the Yankees for Gardner, Pineda and Headley work with a few minor tweaks? The salary for 2017 matches up rather well. Arizona would likely have to kick in some money. Would the Yankees need to add a prospect?

but I have no interest in seeing Bautista in an NYY uniform.

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trading for Greinke? Would a deal involving Jake Lamb and Greinke coming to the Yankees for Gardner, Pineda and Headley work with a few minor tweaks? The salary for 2017 matches up rather well. Arizona would likely have to kick in some money. Would the Yankees need to add a prospect?

Arizona refused to kick in money at the deadline, no way they are now not only kicking in money but also including Lamb. He looks like a building block for them.

in that deal.

They do have a lot of starters and we are looking for one. I think Corbin might be a guy the Yanks look at although he's a bit like a lefty Pineda.

no thanks. Wow!

the best I've seen. A lot of it is at least a little different than the initial reports.
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I follow the minors very closely. A year ago the system was very deep but I could give a rundown on just about every prospect of note, down to a vague sense of statistics and repertoire. Now it's easy to forget about guys who have a good shot to be big-league regulars. By far the deepest, best system I've seen from the Yankees.

and if Arizona wants to rid themselves of Greinke they are going to have to eat a ton of money with most teams. My thought is they would likely have to kick in about 20-25 million as the Yankees are in a good position going forward to add a big contract. Sacrificing Lamb to get rid of Greinke might be worth it to them. Greinke is a year older then Mussina when they signed him and he gives the Yankees at least one top of the rotation starter signed for 2018.

most likely is going to have to eventually relent on eating money on Greinke but they aren't going to throw away a 3b who just turned 26 coming off a breakout 29 HR season to do so. They control Lamb through 2020.

consider taking on the majority of the Greike contract is that they can off set some of the salary with Lamb being inexpensive. Lamb gives the Yankees the left handed power they need and he's not a sure thing after sucking the last two months of the season. Arizona has Drury that can play third and a good prospect in Lugo at AA.

The only other team I see that might go after Greike is Houston but I don't know if they have payroll limitations.

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the best I've seen. A lot of it is at least a little different than the initial reports. Link - ( New Window )

That was a waste of time. They COMPLETELY whiffed on the overall impact. This was a BIG win by the players- the only plus the owners get is the cap on IFA spending.

It is VERY clear from the article that the RAB people have NO idea how the luxury tax works. The money the Yanks save via the elimination of the Performance Factor in the revenue sharing system than any luxury tax will impact on them. The Performance Factor alone was probably worth over $20M annually. The luxury tax is a pittance compared to that.

Right now, the Dodgers, Yanks, Cubs, Red Sox and other major spenders are laughing at the small market teams. Not only did they successfully turn off the spigot on a major source of income for those small market teams, but they were also able to reduce the money they lose even after luxury tax.

In other words, we are about to see some big spending by a number of larger market teams during the life of this CBA. It might not be this year, as the current penalties remain for 2017- but in 2018 and going forward, the cost of FA is dramatically reduced and they will SPEND.

The big winner of the CBA- that monster 2018 FA class. Assuming they continue to produce, Harper and Machado were all but assured that they will break through the $400M barrier with those contracts.

I would give up Refsnyder, and if that's not enough, throw in a replaceable middle relief pitcher. It may not be enough, but it's worth a shot. Sure he's 35, but he'll hit 40+ home runs in Yankee Stadium for the next 3 years. Cashman should never have allowed that guy to walk. Thinking that Ellsbury would generate runs equal to Granderson was foolish.

Plus Chapman for 4 please and thank you Mr Cashman

So did I. He's ok but grandy knocks in more runs, more power and came cheaper.

Package Gardner+cash, Mateo, and others for Gray.

who has gotten a bit overshadowed by Torres recently but is also a big time prospect
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Jerry Crasnick �@jcrasnick 1m1 minute ago
Mark Melancon's talks are moving along. #SFGiants and #Nationals still in the mix. He could land a deal in 4-year, $60M range, sources say.

Jon Heyman �@JonHeyman 1m1 minute ago
Belief is now, Encarnacion is looking for 100M deal. Makes sense. Gotta be below cespedes (110).

Yankees PR Dept. ‏@YankeesPR 7m7 minutes ago

Today the @yankees announced that they have non-tendered LHP Jacob Lindgren. The Yankees' 40-man roster now stands at 39.
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What an awful pick that was.

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Yankees PR Dept. ‏@YankeesPR 7m7 minutes ago Today the @yankees announced that they have non-tendered LHP Jacob Lindgren. The Yankees' 40-man roster now stands at 39. 3 replies 20 retweets 18 likes What an awful pick that was.

Didn't he need TJ surgery?

In comment 13244918 rut17 said:

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Yankees PR Dept. ‏@YankeesPR 7m7 minutes ago Today the @yankees announced that they have non-tendered LHP Jacob Lindgren. The Yankees' 40-man roster now stands at 39. 3 replies 20 retweets 18 likes What an awful pick that was.

Actually, the Yanks might be doing what they did with Domingo German a year ago. By removing him from the roster, especially in a season in which he will miss some time, they stop his options clock.

The Yanks can pay him some good money to sign a minor league deal, let him rehab and get his strength back, and if he has a good 2017, they can add him back to the roster then.

By making the pros at all that is average production for that draft slot, maybe better. He got hurt. It happens. It doesn't mean it was a terrible pick, it means he had a tough break.

Bummer, I thought he would be a good fit for some lefty pop at the DH slot.
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The Yanks need 40 man roster spots and there is no way Lindgren will be ready to go after missing all last season. The Yanks need to protect players that will get snapped up in the Rule 5 draft.

In comment 13245316 JerryNYG said:

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Bummer, I thought he would be a good fit for some lefty pop at the DH slot. RAB with the story - ( New Window )

Pretty surprised by that. Makes me think the Yankees are really in on Encarnacion. I don't think if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

if that's a good thing or a bad thing, that should say. Haha. Depends on how many years he gets from whoever signs him.

on a multi-year contract for an aging Encarnacion, Bautista, or the like.

I would rather they sign whatever veteran lefty has some power and is looking for a 1 or 2 year deal at a higher AAV.

I assume that both Bird and Sanchez will cycle through the DH spot during the year to get breaks from the field, anyway.

for protecting players from the rule V draft.

Is reporting Hill back to the Dodgers 3/40. Nice to see the rest of baseball cooperating with our youth movement.

to 1-yr deal.

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The Braves announce they have signed lefty Jacob Lindgren.

Shoulda dfa'd Hicks instead.

Makes me think that the Yanks want to be players in the Rule V draft; otherwise why release Lindgren now?

Mid-90's lefty with a wipeout slider sounded pretty good, but then didn't do anything after a couple of rough outings with the bigs.

It's a shame, though. Remembering the talk at the time he was drafted sounded like we were getting our closer of the future.

They need starters. Severino will end up just like Mariano mark my words. His stuff is better out of the pen.
Severino/Betances will the one two punch to close games in the future.

In comment 13246131 shelovesnycsports said:

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They need starters. Severino will end up just like Mariano mark my words. His stuff is better out of the pen. Severino/Betances will the one two punch to close games in the future.

I agree with you and said that during the season. At worst he is a end of game if not closer BP pitcher.