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Ex-Jet Joe McKnight murdered in suspected road rage incident

DanMetroMan : 12/1/2016 5:27 pm
A shooting in Terrytown Thursday afternoon (Dec. 1) left a man dead after an argument at an intersection, according to the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office.

Family members at the scene identified the victim as Joe McKnight, former NFL player and local high school football standout. McKnight, who went to John Curtis Christian School in River Ridge, played for the New York Jets and the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Terrible. Senseless.  
Anakim : 12/1/2016 5:28 pm : link
He was an insane athlete. I think he was the top HS recruit in the country.
What is wrong with people?  
steve in ky : 12/1/2016 5:31 pm : link
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A witness, who declined to give her name, said she was leaving a store in the area when she saw a man at the intersection yelling at another man, who was trying to apologize. The man who was yelling shot the other man more than once, she said.

She said the shooter shot the man, stood over him and said "I told you don't you f--- with me." Then he fired again, she said.
Seemed like yesterday I was watching him play at USC  
David in LA : 12/1/2016 5:34 pm : link
Jeez...
Supposedly it's an ex Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Officer  
Vin R : 12/1/2016 5:46 pm : link
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Pretty Sad ....  
Bluesbreaker : 12/1/2016 5:48 pm : link
So many drivers drive to damn fast and there are no rules
It was never this way up here in Broome County .
Now since they have been revamping the highway its been death
race 2000 . there have been 3 major accidents in the work zone
with fatalities ... I though Richmond Va was bad its everywhere
any more ...
I'll admit to dealing with road rage  
j_rud : 12/1/2016 6:08 pm : link
I used to spend about 7 hours a day driving around a city for my job. It began to drive me insane to the point where I would absolutely lose it with people. On two occasions I even got out of my car to confront someone I felt was being stupid, never pausing to realize the inherent stupidity in exiting my car for the purpose of engaging in a physical altercation. The it started to bleed into my personal life, times I was driving on off-hours. It was brought to my attention by my wife that I was either going to get arrested for hitting someone or get shot by someone carrying a gun. So I went about making some major changes in myself, and today, though I never thought I'd say it, I'm a defensive driver. If someone is doing something dumb it's not my place to let them know. If you're in a hurry or driving fast and feel the need to cut me off, whatever. You have the freedom to be an ass. It's simply not worth my sanity.

All that said, even at my craziest, I couldn't imagine shooting someone over a road incident. I couldn't imagine shooting someone period, and I've been around guns and a gun owner my entire life. I just can't wrap my head around ending someone's life over a perceived or even real slight while driving. Absolutely crazy.
RE: I'll admit to dealing with road rage  
DaveW2 : 12/1/2016 6:45 pm : link
In comment 13243295 j_rud said:
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I used to spend about 7 hours a day driving around a city for my job. It began to drive me insane to the point where I would absolutely lose it with people. On two occasions I even got out of my car to confront someone I felt was being stupid, never pausing to realize the inherent stupidity in exiting my car for the purpose of engaging in a physical altercation. The it started to bleed into my personal life, times I was driving on off-hours. It was brought to my attention by my wife that I was either going to get arrested for hitting someone or get shot by someone carrying a gun. So I went about making some major changes in myself, and today, though I never thought I'd say it, I'm a defensive driver. If someone is doing something dumb it's not my place to let them know. If you're in a hurry or driving fast and feel the need to cut me off, whatever. You have the freedom to be an ass. It's simply not worth my sanity.

All that said, even at my craziest, I couldn't imagine shooting someone over a road incident. I couldn't imagine shooting someone period, and I've been around guns and a gun owner my entire life. I just can't wrap my head around ending someone's life over a perceived or even real slight while driving. Absolutely crazy.


Good for you j. I road race as a hobby, but on the street I'm a total granny. I always give myself lots of time to get where I have to go, and if someone cuts me off, I know it's not personal. Plus it's way harier on the race track.
Beyond senseless...  
Dunedin81 : 12/1/2016 7:38 pm : link
It is never, ever worth it. Nothing good can come out of getting out of the car. Your adversary could be armed, he could be much bigger or a better fighter than you, and he is likely just as angry as you are. And if you're in the bar with your buddies and get in a fight, they aren't going to let it go too far. On a roadside by yourself, who is going to stop you. You could 'win' the fight and end up doing hard time.
RE: Beyond senseless...  
AcidTest : 12/1/2016 8:26 pm : link
In comment 13243375 Dunedin81 said:
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It is never, ever worth it. Nothing good can come out of getting out of the car. Your adversary could be armed, he could be much bigger or a better fighter than you, and he is likely just as angry as you are. And if you're in the bar with your buddies and get in a fight, they aren't going to let it go too far. On a roadside by yourself, who is going to stop you. You could 'win' the fight and end up doing hard time.


^This. Prayers for Joe and his family and friends. RIP. God bless. Senseless.
Senseless indeed  
Overseer : 12/1/2016 8:35 pm : link
not that it's excusable either, but a fist fight...okay. F'ing murdering someone over a road altercation...?

I drive a lot for work. I have a pretty calm personality and don't anger easily, but given the amount of aggressive drivers, assholes, and morons (sometimes all 3 at once) on the road, I can see how one can get furious. Regularly I'll see those drivers - and we all know them - weaving in & out of highway traffic going 80MPH+. Most often a BMW or Mercedes.

I also despise people who lay on their horns for no reason, especially in neighborhoods and with pedestrians all around. I saw this dude today who was blocking the box - in other words, completely his fuck up - and he's laying on the horn at the stopped traffic in front of him.

In 100 or w/e years, the way we currently transport ourselves will be I'm sure one of the things people look back on and laugh. "Wait...1 million plus people died on roads in 2016? Are you kidding?"

Somewhat of a digression. RIP to McKnight. 28 years old.


_______________  
I am Ninja : 12/1/2016 9:39 pm : link
The guy who shot him had that line prepared and played the scenario out in his head for years. He has been waiting for the day.
Great post J Rud  
Pete in CO : 12/1/2016 9:51 pm : link
Thanks for that. Very healthy perspective on this topic.
Just absolutely ridiculous  
Mason : 12/1/2016 11:38 pm : link
RIP to his family. Met him at a Footlocker promotion a few years ago. Sad to hear.
Pathetic.  
Kulish29 : 12/1/2016 11:57 pm : link
Some ignorant fuck had his ego bruised and decided that was justification to gun down an unarmed man. Fuck you Ronald Gasse. May multiple rapes be ahead of you.

RIP Joe McKnight.
His father said Joe was about to sign with the Vikings too  
DennyInDenville : 12/2/2016 12:12 am : link
So damn sad. People are insane.

Rip Joe. Prayers to the family, so sad.


I used to drive 6-10 hours 6 days a week for work and I know all too well about road rage. I had a gun pointed at me in Miami once via road rage also. It's insane.

Guns  
Johnny5 : 12/2/2016 9:39 am : link
are cool.
WTF am I missing here?  
DanMetroMan : 12/2/2016 10:18 am : link
Ronald Gasser, the man authorities say shot and killed former NFL player Joe McKnight, was released from custody overnight without being charged, Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office authorities said Friday morning.

Gasser, 54, has not been formally charged, said JPSO spokesman Col. John Fortunato. As the investigation into McKnight's death continues, Fortunato asked anyone with information about the shooting to contact department homicide detectives at 504-364-5393.

McKnight, 28, was shot about 3 p.m. Thursday (Dec. 1) at the intersection of Behrman Highway and Holmes Boulevard in Terrytown. A witness, who declined to give her name, said she saw a man at the intersection yelling at McKnight, who was trying to apologize. The man shot McKnight more than once, the witness said. She said he shot McKnight, stood over him and said, "I told you don't you f--- with me." Then the man fired again, she said.

Authorities named the shooter as Ronald Gasser, 54, and said he stayed at the scene and turned his gun in to officers. Gasser was in custody and was being questioned, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand said. The sheriff said McKnight did not have a gun, and deputies did not find a gun outside McKnight's vehicle.
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RE: WTF am I missing here?  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/2/2016 10:46 am : link
In comment 13244221 DanMetroMan said:
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Ronald Gasser, the man authorities say shot and killed former NFL player Joe McKnight, was released from custody overnight without being charged, Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office authorities said Friday morning.

Gasser, 54, has not been formally charged, said JPSO spokesman Col. John Fortunato. As the investigation into McKnight's death continues, Fortunato asked anyone with information about the shooting to contact department homicide detectives at 504-364-5393.

McKnight, 28, was shot about 3 p.m. Thursday (Dec. 1) at the intersection of Behrman Highway and Holmes Boulevard in Terrytown. A witness, who declined to give her name, said she saw a man at the intersection yelling at McKnight, who was trying to apologize. The man shot McKnight more than once, the witness said. She said he shot McKnight, stood over him and said, "I told you don't you f--- with me." Then the man fired again, she said.

Authorities named the shooter as Ronald Gasser, 54, and said he stayed at the scene and turned his gun in to officers. Gasser was in custody and was being questioned, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand said. The sheriff said McKnight did not have a gun, and deputies did not find a gun outside McKnight's vehicle. Link - ( New Window )



this is gonna go over well
you are missing a bunch of facts that  
UConn4523 : 12/2/2016 10:57 am : link
were either not reported or reported wrong. I have no idea what to make of this.
RE: you are missing a bunch of facts that  
DanMetroMan : 12/2/2016 10:59 am : link
In comment 13244284 UConn4523 said:
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were either not reported or reported wrong. I have no idea what to make of this.


Me? I linked an article from The Times-Picayune, if facts are missing/wrong then that's on them. That's on their site.
just a general rule of thumb  
UConn4523 : 12/2/2016 11:15 am : link
that article and reports likely have some wrong information as well as incomplete information.
There is definitely something missing from the story if he isn't  
Patrick77 : 12/2/2016 11:22 am : link
Charged.

Unless the shooter's argument is somehow Mcnight made him fear for his life?
RE: There is definitely something missing from the story if he isn't  
Rflairr : 12/2/2016 11:55 am : link
In comment 13244327 Patrick77 said:
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Charged.

Unless the shooter's argument is somehow Mcnight made him fear for his life?


If it's true he shot him again while he was on the ground. How could that be the case? What about the other witness who claimed McKnight was trying to apologize?
Rflair  
Patrick77 : 12/2/2016 12:10 pm : link
I'm assuming with him not being charged yet there is some information we haven't heard yet or the witnesses have a differing account to someone else or some other evidence:

Makes no sense if he indeed shot him once when he was standing and once on the ground.
RE: WTF am I missing here?  
jestersdead : 12/2/2016 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13244221 DanMetroMan said:
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Ronald Gasser, the man authorities say shot and killed former NFL player Joe McKnight, was released from custody overnight without being charged, Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office authorities said Friday morning.

Gasser, 54, has not been formally charged, said JPSO spokesman Col. John Fortunato. As the investigation into McKnight's death continues, Fortunato asked anyone with information about the shooting to contact department homicide detectives at 504-364-5393.

McKnight, 28, was shot about 3 p.m. Thursday (Dec. 1) at the intersection of Behrman Highway and Holmes Boulevard in Terrytown. A witness, who declined to give her name, said she saw a man at the intersection yelling at McKnight, who was trying to apologize. The man shot McKnight more than once, the witness said. She said he shot McKnight, stood over him and said, "I told you don't you f--- with me." Then the man fired again, she said.

Authorities named the shooter as Ronald Gasser, 54, and said he stayed at the scene and turned his gun in to officers. Gasser was in custody and was being questioned, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand said. The sheriff said McKnight did not have a gun, and deputies did not find a gun outside McKnight's vehicle. Link - ( New Window )


Agree with the WTF. There is a witness to the killing, how do they not hold him over night? Also, "i told you don't f--- with me" sounds like premeditated to me
The shooter is white, the unarmed victim is black  
GeofromNJ : 12/2/2016 12:28 pm : link
This is de facto self-defense in LA.
Lets wait for facts before whining about it  
WideRight : 12/2/2016 12:35 pm : link
Race doesn't mean anything yet. And Gasser's entitled to carry a gun and shoot people for self defense if he wants, so let him be. This isn't some commie liberal gun control world and we just have to accept this stuff times. Our founders put the second amendment in there for a reason.

This would be a non-issue is McKnight wasn't black or famous.
B L DONT M  
well...bye TC : 12/2/2016 12:39 pm : link
unless they are making one handed TDs. Welcome to BBI - Breit Bart Interactive
RE: Lets wait for facts before whining about it  
Johnny5 : 12/2/2016 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13244411 WideRight said:
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Race doesn't mean anything yet. And Gasser's entitled to carry a gun and shoot people for self defense if he wants, so let him be. This isn't some commie liberal gun control world and we just have to accept this stuff times. Our founders put the second amendment in there for a reason.

This would be a non-issue is McKnight wasn't black or famous.

Riiiight. Freaking commies! It's a complete non-issue for people to shoot someone and kill them because they cut them off etc. Hey, don't piss me off in line at Starbucks! Or... Ka BLAM!
RE: B L DONT M  
JonC : 12/2/2016 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13244419 well...bye TC said:
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unless they are making one handed TDs. Welcome to BBI - Breit Bart Interactive


This should go well.
RE: RE: B L DONT M  
Johnny5 : 12/2/2016 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13244437 JonC said:
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In comment 13244419 well...bye TC said:


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unless they are making one handed TDs. Welcome to BBI - Breit Bart Interactive



This should go well.

LOL. Yeah I should not add fuel either.
The founders put the second amendment in for settling traffic disputes  
Heisenberg : 12/2/2016 12:56 pm : link
well regulated road rage being necessary to the smoothness of transportation.
If it's true he stood over the already shot man  
JonC : 12/2/2016 12:57 pm : link
and fired another shot, that's an execution kill shot legally speaking, I'd think.

He stayed at the crime scene  
montanagiant : 12/2/2016 1:03 pm : link
Surrendered his gun
Has no criminal record
Owns his own business
Is claiming self-defense

These were most likely the reasons why he was released. Not saying I agree with it, just pointing out the factors that point to why.

On a side note, Minnesota was looking at signing McKnight
Owning a business is a reason he was released?  
Cam in MO : 12/2/2016 1:22 pm : link
Thank god for Mary Kay or I would've been sent away years ago!
RE: He stayed at the crime scene  
Heisenberg : 12/2/2016 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13244465 montanagiant said:
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Surrendered his gun
Has no criminal record
Owns his own business
Is claiming self-defense

These were most likely the reasons why he was released. Not saying I agree with it, just pointing out the factors that point to why.

On a side note, Minnesota was looking at signing McKnight


That's presumably why but it's a bad look nonetheless.
I'd take what witnesses say to newspapers with a grain of salt  
njm : 12/2/2016 1:29 pm : link
Those statements haven't always proved to be reliable.
RE: I'd take what witnesses say to newspapers with a grain of salt  
Cam in MO : 12/2/2016 1:37 pm : link
In comment 13244507 njm said:
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Those statements haven't always proved to be reliable.


Right. It's what they say to law enforcement that actually counts.

Although the newspaper found one witness that gave that version of events, there could be more that gave law enforcement a completely different account. We don't really know.


The problem is that this witness' statement is out there now  
Heisenberg : 12/2/2016 1:49 pm : link
feeding the perception that black and white don't get equal protection/treatment under the law.
Feeding the perception?  
WideRight : 12/2/2016 1:56 pm : link
LOL
All three shell casings found inside Gassers car  
BlueHurricane : 12/2/2016 2:38 pm : link
So the narrative of him pumping a bullet in McKnight while standing over him is not true......... If the investigators are to be believed.
this press conference is what I'm talking about  
UConn4523 : 12/2/2016 2:49 pm : link
so much of the initial reports have already been proven wrong.
him not standing over him  
UConn4523 : 12/2/2016 2:52 pm : link
and instead firing all shots from inside the car pretty much put to bed a lot of the false outrage being spewed. I'll say there's still a chance of it since I certainly don't have all the facts, but that autopsy report and shell casing location are hard to argue with.
They are saying shoots were fired  
Fred in Atlanta : 12/2/2016 2:57 pm : link
from car. Some early facts are wrong.
Wierd  
Fred in Atlanta : 12/2/2016 2:59 pm : link
Why would a person need to shoot somebody when they are in a car unless that person was shooting at him?
RE: Wierd  
UConn4523 : 12/2/2016 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13244647 Fred in Atlanta said:
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Why would a person need to shoot somebody when they are in a car unless that person was shooting at him?


Apparently they have laws where if you feel your life is being threatened in your vehicle you can take action to defend yourself. I don't think NY has that law, but down there I guess they do.

I have no idea if this guy feared for his life or not, but that law is probably the reason why he wasn't charged yet.
They have "stand your ground"  
Heisenberg : 12/2/2016 3:04 pm : link
laws
RE: Wierd  
Diver_Down : 12/2/2016 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13244647 Fred in Atlanta said:
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Why would a person need to shoot somebody when they are in a car unless that person was shooting at him?


LA also has a car-jacking law that allows for the occupant to use deadly force. All the occupant has to prove is their perception/fear of a car-jacking. Almost as if the car is an extension to the Castle doctrine.
Let's wait for all the information on this case  
Davisian : 12/2/2016 3:28 pm : link
But "Big Brietbart Interactive" is Disney level awesome.

RE: Let's wait for all the information on this case  
Johnny5 : 12/2/2016 3:34 pm : link
In comment 13244688 Davisian said:
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But "Big Brietbart Interactive" is Disney level awesome.

LOL
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