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NCAAF Conference Championship Weekend

odunde : 12/2/2016 6:26 pm
I figured I'd get things started, since my Huskies are just a few hours from kickoff.... Seems likely that we win and we're in the playoff, but I'm worried about Colorado's dual threat qb and secondary managing an upset...

Then again, if UW doesn't beat them, they don't deserve to make it....
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Clemson will jump Ohio State  
B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:09 am : link
And that's it.
the rankings  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:10 am : link
are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week
RE: RE: RE: Best win  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:11 am : link
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By any team in college football, winner of best division in college football. Won't be in college playoffs



Ohio State is the best win by any team this year? Huh? At home? And they won on a fluke blocked kick scoop and score.

Ohio State destroying Oklahoma in Norman was a more impressive win, on the road.

ummmm Ohio st is number 2 right now??? Who has that on their resume????


Then does penn state have one of the worst losses too? Losing by 40 and they were fortunate enough it was only that?
I think Ohio State needs to be out  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
How can you be a national champion without winning your conference. Yes I know Bama has done it, but it's one of the major reasons they moved to a Playoff. Penn State beat them and they a way hitter team right now. Ohio State is on the downside.
You  
jamesmichaelworm : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb
so a win against the #2 team  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
at home is a better win than an absolute beatdown of the #5 (assuming that's where PSU winds up) team?

If all you're saying is they beat the highest ranked team of all of them, fine, but i wouldn't call it the best or most impressive win. What Michigan did to PSU was more impressive no matter what way you look at it
Mook is 100% correct  
B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
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RE: the rankings  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:13 am : link
In comment 13245713 MookGiants said:
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are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week


Washingtons has 2 signature wins 1 against Colorado and 1 against a multiple loss USC team. That's why.
Also before people start bitching about  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:15 am : link
Out of conference scheduling The SEC out of conference scheduling is a complete joke year after year and yet they usually have multiple top 10 teams.
RE: You  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:16 am : link
In comment 13245716 jamesmichaelworm said:
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Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb


Michigan was missing 3 key starters against penn state as well.
Ohio State  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:16 am : link
simply has a better resume than Penn State. I'd rather PSU in it than OSU, but OSU has a better resume. They lost 1 game, on the road, on a fluke play. They still finished 11-1, won in Madison.

I don't agree with PSU being the "way hotter" team right now. Indiana pissed that game in Bloomington away, the scoreboard shows a 15+ point or whatever it was win, but it was a 4 point game with 3 minutes to go and Indiana had the ball, and that was despite Indiana turning it over 4 times, and I believe 2 of them inside their own 20 yard line.

I hate both teams with a passion, so I don't have a bias towards one or the other, but OSU's resume is just better imo. 1 less loss is a much bigger deal than you're making it out to be.
if michigan hadn't loss to iowa  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:17 am : link
Washington would be out. But you can't keep a 1 loss team conference winner out over a 2 loss conference champ who more than likely is still the 3rd best team in their conference.
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MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:18 am : link
In comment 13245719 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week



Washingtons has 2 signature wins 1 against Colorado and 1 against a multiple loss USC team. That's why.


Washington lost to USC.

USC is very, very good right now. Darnold changed that team. I'd favor USC to beat any of the playoff teams on a neutral field right now besides Bama. But they aren't getting there because they were awful to start when Max Browne started
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dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:19 am : link
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are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week



Washingtons has 2 signature wins 1 against Colorado and 1 against a multiple loss USC team. That's why.



Washington lost to USC.

USC is very, very good right now. Darnold changed that team. I'd favor USC to beat any of the playoff teams on a neutral field right now besides Bama. But they aren't getting there because they were awful to start when Max Browne started


USC will be at least 10 point favorite over penn state.
B, at what point do you stop lumping in this group of players ...  
Crispino : 12/4/2016 12:19 am : link
with the people who perpetrated crimes? These kids had nothing to do with it. They were little kids when the shit happened that discredited the program. I get that the administration completely fucked up, and JoePa should burn in Hell, but I don't think it's fair to paint everyone with such a broad brush. The kids that played their hearts out tonight aren't pedophiles. They're just kids who play football.
and  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:26 am : link
while I think all of Wisconsin's QB's suck shit, they did play against the backup tonight.
They are. Pedo State. Now and forever.  
B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:26 am : link
As long as those children and their families have to live with having their lives ripped to shreds.
RE: B, at what point do you stop lumping in this group of players ...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:32 am : link
In comment 13245729 Crispino said:
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with the people who perpetrated crimes? These kids had nothing to do with it. They were little kids when the shit happened that discredited the program. I get that the administration completely fucked up, and JoePa should burn in Hell, but I don't think it's fair to paint everyone with such a broad brush. The kids that played their hearts out tonight aren't pedophiles. They're just kids who play football.


They should have shut the program down. Not the kids fault, but should have let them transfer. Many people there still don't get it and some of them even frequent BBi.

I never liked them before the abuse came out, but they still love and are a better team then OSU.
Well, ok.  
Crispino : 12/4/2016 12:38 am : link
The answer is never. Everyone who goes to that school is, in perpetuity, iinextricably guilty of being a pedophile by extension.

That's an awful position to take. You need to rethink that.
a good portion  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:45 am : link
of the fans and alumni deserve to be ridiculed forever how they defended Paterno, but there was a group of fans/alumni/students that didn't defend him. They were certainly in the minority.

Think Washington belongs over PSU  
dpinzow : 12/4/2016 12:50 am : link
and the playoff will be Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and Washington. Had Clemson lost another game, PSU would get in
I'm a PSU alum  
giantsfaninphilly : 12/4/2016 1:49 am : link
I was devastated when that happened. I'll never forgive Paterno for turning his head to what happened. And I have no respect for the koolaid drinkers in central Pennsylvania who think he could do no wrong. I didn't take any joy from them winning tonight.
RE: Think Washington belongs over PSU  
jeff57 : 12/4/2016 6:06 am : link
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and the playoff will be Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and Washington. Had Clemson lost another game, PSU would get in

Agree on the 4. But they probably would have taken Michigan had either Clemson or Washington lost.
Well this  
ctc in ftmyers : 12/4/2016 7:18 am : link
confirms going to a playoff system ended all controversy of who got in.
RE: I'm a PSU alum  
pganut : 12/4/2016 7:52 am : link
In comment 13245747 giantsfaninphilly said:
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I was devastated when that happened. I'll never forgive Paterno for turning his head to what happened. And I have no respect for the koolaid drinkers in central Pennsylvania who think he could do no wrong. I didn't take any joy from them winning tonight.
This. Also an alum here, and it's something that will always rightfully cast a dark shadow. I think non PSU grads here overestimate the number of fans who absolve Paterno (as a lacrosse player who roomed with football players in the late 80s/early 90s, I can even tell you stories of how players disliked him and in the 89-90 season almost staged a player mutiny demanding playcalling changes, a story for another time). Yes, there is a small, vocal group of cultists who are the ones you should fire into the sun, but I personally know no one in my alumni network that doesn't think Paterno was asleep at the wheel and deserved culpability. That said, I also do not believe PSU has any place in the playoff. Outside the OSU win, their resume does not deserve it.
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Bramton1 : 12/4/2016 8:56 am : link
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Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb



Michigan was missing 3 key starters against penn state as well.


Yeah, Penn State was missing 3 key starters as well... among their linebackers. They run a 4-3.
RE: Ohio State  
Bramton1 : 12/4/2016 8:58 am : link
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simply has a better resume than Penn State. I'd rather PSU in it than OSU, but OSU has a better resume. They lost 1 game, on the road, on a fluke play. They still finished 11-1, won in Madison.

I don't agree with PSU being the "way hotter" team right now. Indiana pissed that game in Bloomington away, the scoreboard shows a 15+ point or whatever it was win, but it was a 4 point game with 3 minutes to go and Indiana had the ball, and that was despite Indiana turning it over 4 times, and I believe 2 of them inside their own 20 yard line.

I hate both teams with a passion, so I don't have a bias towards one or the other, but OSU's resume is just better imo. 1 less loss is a much bigger deal than you're making it out to be.


Why is the field goal block a fluke play? Ohio State didn't execute, Penn State did.
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dep026 : 12/4/2016 9:04 am : link
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Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb



Michigan was missing 3 key starters against penn state as well.



Yeah, Penn State was missing 3 key starters as well... among their linebackers. They run a 4-3.


So at full strength it would have been a 40 or 50 point loss?
Great job Wisconsin.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 9:31 am : link
Lololololol

Trash.
RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 10:32 am : link
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Lololololol

Trash.


Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.
Lololol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 11:24 am : link
Run out of excuses yet? I'm done with my laps. Ran circles around you. Finish your laps. Lololol
Lololol  
Patrick77 : 12/4/2016 11:29 am : link
Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?
RE: Lololol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 11:30 am : link
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?


No im laughing so hard it hurts.
RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
Mike in NY : 12/4/2016 11:30 am : link
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Lololololol

Trash.



Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.


It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.
RE: RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 11:33 am : link
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Lololololol

Trash.



Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.



It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.


Exactly. Wisconsin fuckboys running amuck.
RE: RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 3:23 pm : link
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Lololololol

Trash.



Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.



It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.


You do realize that Michigan lost to Iowa, right? Using that one against Wisconsin didn't exactly help
RE: Lololol  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13245970 Patrick77 said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?


He tries to get under my skin but fails. It's really sad. Dude is a father and acts like a 12 year old.
RE: RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 3:50 pm : link
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It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.


Lost to OSU in OT, Michigan in Ann Arbor by one score and Penn State by one score.

All 3 were coin flip games. Not saying that Wisconsin should have won any or all, but it's weird that you mention a close win at Iowa but won't bring up the scores of the ones they lost.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13246258 Jon in NYC said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?



He tries to get under my skin but fails. It's really sad. Dude is a father and acts like a 12 year old.


Come on, Son. I only dish out what I get back from you. You can't stand the heat, then back up from mommy and get out of the kitchen.
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Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13246269 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?



He tries to get under my skin but fails. It's really sad. Dude is a father and acts like a 12 year old.



Come on, Son. I only dish out what I get back from you. You can't stand the heat, then back up from mommy and get out of the kitchen.


Like I said, it doesn't faze me. Keep doing you.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 4:00 pm : link
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Like I said, it doesn't faze me. Keep doing you.


I don't intend to have it faze you. But in all honesty. Keep at it though. You're doing great.
This LT56 clown  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 6:06 pm : link
lol. - what a joke
RE: This LT56 clown  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 6:11 pm : link
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lol. - what a joke


You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?
RE: RE: This LT56 clown  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 6:27 pm : link
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lol. - what a joke



You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?


You done with the crap guesswork and calling others out prick? Apparently not. I'm not Flounder while yet another thread proves you're an ass
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 6:51 pm : link
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lol. - what a joke



You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?



You done with the crap guesswork and calling others out prick? Apparently not. I'm not Flounder while yet another thread proves you're an ass


Pretty sure you call me out every chance on these college threads. Either you're a Jon dupe or just stalk me. And at least own your history.. Jesus.
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Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 6:58 pm : link
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lol. - what a joke



You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?



You done with the crap guesswork and calling others out prick? Apparently not. I'm not Flounder while yet another thread proves you're an ass



Pretty sure you call me out every chance on these college threads. Either you're a Jon dupe or just stalk me. And at least own your history.. Jesus.


Wrong again ahole. Never called you out. Never even heard of you until this Flounder crap appeared with you name attached. Great job in yet another thread making enemies.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 7:01 pm : link
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Wrong again ahole. Never called you out. Never even heard of you until this Flounder crap appeared with you name attached. Great job in yet another thread making enemies.


I confused you with Giants in 07.. I know you were a poster and he was. My bad. You took it to heart. And you follow me around on these threads were Jon and I give each other shit because of Mich/Wisc. You get your little potshots in here and there. If you want to take a potshot, fine. But expect it back. Don't act like a little bitch when I give it back.
Just ban youself  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 7:05 pm : link
Sweetheart

You instigate and then take the cowardly high road. Get lost troll
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 7:07 pm : link
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Sweetheart

You instigate and then take the cowardly high road. Get lost troll


Funny. I feel that you do exactly that. And I didn't know taking the high road was considered cowardly. Today I learned.
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Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 7:14 pm : link
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Sweetheart

You instigate and then take the cowardly high road. Get lost troll



Funny. I feel that you do exactly that. And I didn't know taking the high road was considered cowardly. Today I learned.


You're literally too stupid to insult. You accuse me of somebody i'm not, then a mod corrects you. Now you accuse me of being another stalker and i'm in the wrong lol. Nice job psycho. Keep up the delusions others are at fault.
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