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NCAAF Conference Championship Weekend

odunde : 12/2/2016 6:26 pm
I figured I'd get things started, since my Huskies are just a few hours from kickoff.... Seems likely that we win and we're in the playoff, but I'm worried about Colorado's dual threat qb and secondary managing an upset...

Then again, if UW doesn't beat them, they don't deserve to make it....
Go Hokies!!!  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/2/2016 6:47 pm : link
Many people are rooting for them to knock out Clemson.
Clemson has a Hillaryesque dislike about them  
gtt350 : 12/2/2016 7:48 pm : link
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AAC Conference Championship game between Navy and Temple  
RC02XX : 12/2/2016 7:53 pm : link
Will be tomorrow in Annapolis. If Navy wins and beats Army next weekend, they may have a chance for the Cotton Bowl, which will probably annoy the shit out of bowl officials.

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College bowl officials, weve been told, are rooting against Navy this weekend. If the Midshipmen beat Temple in Saturdays American Athletic Conference title game, theyd preserve the possibility of a New Years Six bowl berth pending the result of the Army-Navy game and thus delay a host of other pressing announcements. For that reason, it would be easier for the sport if the Mids lose on Saturday. Invitations must be mailed.

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RE: Clemson has a Hillaryesque dislike about them  
Tuckrule : 12/2/2016 8:07 pm : link
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Interesting to shove that into this discussion
RE: Clemson has a Hillaryesque dislike about them  
Docscuzz : 12/2/2016 8:25 pm : link
Yea and The Donald...Just the perfect flag bearer...
RE: Clemson has a Hillaryesque dislike about them  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/2/2016 8:27 pm : link
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WTF?
What do you have against Clemson?  
Crispino : 12/2/2016 8:53 pm : link
Swinney is kind of goofy, but a good guy. Deshaun is Watson is a really good kid and a solid citizen. They're not a traditional superpower who beats everyone all the time, like 'Bama. Not sure why they'd be disliked unless you root for an ACC rival or South Carolina.
RE: AAC Conference Championship game between Navy and Temple  
speedywheels : 12/2/2016 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13244911 RC02XX said:
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Will be tomorrow in Annapolis. If Navy wins and beats Army next weekend, they may have a chance for the Cotton Bowl, which will probably annoy the shit out of bowl officials.



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College bowl officials, weve been told, are rooting against Navy this weekend. If the Midshipmen beat Temple in Saturdays American Athletic Conference title game, theyd preserve the possibility of a New Years Six bowl berth pending the result of the Army-Navy game and thus delay a host of other pressing announcements. For that reason, it would be easier for the sport if the Mids lose on Saturday. Invitations must be mailed.

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Well, that settles it - I was rooting for Navy already, but if it pisses off
the NCAA, then I'm REALLY roooting for them now...
this effort shouldn't get washington  
dep026 : 12/2/2016 10:24 pm : link
In the final 4. Beating a team with its backup qb isn't impressive especially with a tied game in the 2nd.

RE: this effort shouldn't get washington  
odunde : 12/2/2016 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13245010 dep026 said:
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In the final 4. Beating a team with its backup qb isn't impressive especially with a tied game in the 2nd.


They're not looking great but that argument only holds water in a vaccuum.
Wooooooo  
odunde : 12/3/2016 12:39 am : link
We 👏want 👏bama
Cotton Bowl door still open for Mids  
Maryland Giant : 12/3/2016 5:04 am : link
With Western Michigan's close win over Ohio, Navy remains in the hunt for a Cotton Bowl bid. Beating Temple is not going to be easy. Temple has the number 3 defense in the FBS so this will be a big test for Navy's option.

Looking forward to a sunny, cool day in Annapolis. Tailgate set for 9:00...ready to roll!

I think this games shapes up more like the Notre Dame game in terms of the pace and the score. 3rd/4th down coversions and turnovers will be the difference.

Navy 31 Temple 28
RE: this effort shouldn't get washington  
jeff57 : 12/3/2016 6:54 am : link
In comment 13245010 dep026 said:
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In the final 4. Beating a team with its backup qb isn't impressive especially with a tied game in the 2nd.

They won convincingly enough. They're in, or should be in.
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Jay in Toronto : 12/3/2016 7:30 am : link
In comment 13245023 odunde said:
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In the final 4. Beating a team with its backup qb isn't impressive especially with a tied game in the 2nd.




They're not looking great but that argument only holds water in a vaccuum.


Not so sure. The word repeatedly is we want the best 4 teams, especially those playing that way now.
Nothing against Wash but  
joeinpa : 12/3/2016 7:46 am : link
If they had loss that game it would have really exposed the selection committee s defeiciencies in hacking by to decide between Mich or the winner of the Big Ten.
Odunde, believe me, 'Bama wants you too.  
Crispino : 12/3/2016 8:17 am : link
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H-O-K-I-E-S!!!  
Gmen703 : 12/3/2016 8:20 am : link
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Hokies?  
BigBlueShock : 12/3/2016 9:21 am : link
The same Hokies that lost to Syracuse?

Clemson will destroy them.
RE: What do you have against Clemson?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/3/2016 10:48 am : link
In comment 13244965 Crispino said:
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Swinney is kind of goofy, but a good guy. Deshaun is Watson is a really good kid and a solid citizen. They're not a traditional superpower who beats everyone all the time, like 'Bama. Not sure why they'd be disliked unless you root for an ACC rival or South Carolina.


Swinney is the biggest tool in the ACC. He's a complete asshole. You must have forgot him ripping into his kicker for an entire quarter.
RE: Hokies?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/3/2016 10:50 am : link
In comment 13245105 BigBlueShock said:
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The same Hokies that lost to Syracuse?

Clemson will destroy them.


If their offense shows up they will be in the game. There offense studdered against Cuse.
RE: RE: What do you have against Clemson?  
BigBlueShock : 12/3/2016 10:58 am : link
In comment 13245157 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Swinney is kind of goofy, but a good guy. Deshaun is Watson is a really good kid and a solid citizen. They're not a traditional superpower who beats everyone all the time, like 'Bama. Not sure why they'd be disliked unless you root for an ACC rival or South Carolina.



Swinney is the biggest tool in the ACC. He's a complete asshole. You must have forgot him ripping into his kicker for an entire quarter.

I'm not a Clemson fan by any stretch, but I just don't understand where this narrative about Swinney being a tool or an asshole comes from. I don't know him, obviously, but I've seen many articles and snippets on various shows that show him as a very giving and likeable guy. Sure he just LOOKS like you want to punch him in the face, but I think the rap he's gotten is a bit off from what I've seen.
I do remember him ripping his kicker.  
Crispino : 12/3/2016 11:17 am : link
Agree that wasn't great, but that was pretty out of character for him. He's a been good guy from all I've seen and heard.
RE: Odunde, believe me, 'Bama wants you too.  
odunde : 12/3/2016 12:26 pm : link
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Ha! I'm not sure they care who they play.
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odunde : 12/3/2016 12:27 pm : link
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In the final 4. Beating a team with its backup qb isn't impressive especially with a tied game in the 2nd.




They're not looking great but that argument only holds water in a vaccuum.



Not so sure. The word repeatedly is we want the best 4 teams, especially those playing that way now.


What team is playing so much better?
Ugh...  
RC02XX : 12/3/2016 1:18 pm : link
Navy losing its starting QB and slot back isn't going to make a comeback attempt any easier. And Temple is looking great.
has the ball washing  
B in ALB : 12/3/2016 2:53 pm : link
of Navy run its course on bbi?
Western Michigan will get the minor conference Group of 6 berth  
dpinzow : 12/3/2016 3:21 pm : link
probably the Cotton Bowl (where they will most likely get smoked)
Oklahoma wins, Florida takes a 7-0 lead  
jeff57 : 12/3/2016 4:23 pm : link
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Good opening drive  
JayBinQueens : 12/3/2016 4:25 pm : link
by Florida.

If Alabama loses and Clemson wins, are they at risk of getting knocked out of the playoffs?
Not a chance. Alabama can lose...  
Crispino : 12/3/2016 4:32 pm : link
and they would still be a lock.
Alabama could lose 77 to 0  
Patrick77 : 12/3/2016 4:34 pm : link
And still be in the playoff. They might not be first but they would still be in.

They aren't losing to Florida either.
wow  
JayBinQueens : 12/3/2016 4:52 pm : link
their D/ST is dominating now
Alabama is official crushing Florida right now  
adamg : 12/3/2016 4:52 pm : link
this is turning into an ugly game
Holy shit  
adamg : 12/3/2016 4:53 pm : link
returned the extra point to stop the bleeding... down a TD now... game back on
RE: Holy shit  
JayBinQueens : 12/3/2016 4:55 pm : link
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returned the extra point to stop the bleeding... down a TD now... game back on

crazy sequence of events
This game is bonkers.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2016 4:56 pm : link
I'm at a bar where pretty much everyone is rooting for the Tide.
The refs are horrible  
adamg : 12/3/2016 5:29 pm : link
there were about three illegal blocks on that play
Dear Jerry Reese  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/3/2016 6:34 pm : link
Please draft Jarrad Davis. Thanks.
Ryan Ramczyk for first round  
Anakim : 12/3/2016 8:24 pm : link
Please
Franklin  
RobCarpenter : 12/3/2016 8:47 pm : link
With his best Brady Hoke impression after the last TD.

Penn State is getting crushed.
And now Penn State is back  
RobCarpenter : 12/3/2016 8:55 pm : link
Could be an interesting game after all.
Refs in the ACC championship  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/3/2016 9:15 pm : link
Are terrible.
Alexander from VT  
JohnVB : 12/3/2016 10:32 pm : link
Is a dogshit corner. Please God don't let Reese draft him.
Wisconsin getting absolutely bullied  
B in ALB : 12/3/2016 10:45 pm : link
At the line of scrimmage.
Gesicki could be an interesting TE prospect  
dpinzow : 12/3/2016 10:46 pm : link
Giants should keep an eye out for him
Wisconsin led 28-7  
Bramton1 : 12/3/2016 10:46 pm : link
Penn State just tied it up at 28.
RE: Alexander from VT  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/3/2016 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13245653 JohnVB said:
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Is a dogshit corner. Please God don't let Reese draft him.


He is only a sophomore. Still has time to develope. Two really shitty calls on him though.
RE: RE: Alexander from VT  
JohnVB : 12/3/2016 11:02 pm : link
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Is a dogshit corner. Please God don't let Reese draft him.



He is only a sophomore. Still has time to develope. Two really shitty calls on him though.


He looks like Jayron Hosley with size and athleticism.

How about Dabo the doofus dropping 11 into coverage on 3rd down? He must be trying to help a friend out w money on VT.
Both games  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/3/2016 11:14 pm : link
Right now are extremely good.
will  
MookGiants : 12/3/2016 11:39 pm : link
Wisconsin ever recruit a QB that doesn't fucking suck?

Great comeback by Penn State, even bigger choke job by Wisconsin.
ugh fucking Penn State...here we go.  
guitarguybs12 : 12/3/2016 11:40 pm : link
watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.
Nice job Wisconsin  
B in ALB : 12/3/2016 11:40 pm : link
Lose to Pedo State.
Chryst  
MookGiants : 12/3/2016 11:40 pm : link
called a timeout so he could run the ball.

Effectiveluy ending the game if he didn't get it.

Makes no sense, everyone knew what the play call would be, get up to the line and run it
the third place big 10 game  
dep026 : 12/3/2016 11:41 pm : link
Turned out to be exciting at least.

Wisconsin outscored 31-3 to end game. Choke job.
RE: ugh fucking Penn State...here we go.  
dep026 : 12/3/2016 11:41 pm : link
In comment 13245680 guitarguybs12 said:
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watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.


Still won't pass michigan.
RE: RE: ugh fucking Penn State...here we go.  
MookGiants : 12/3/2016 11:43 pm : link
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watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.



Still won't pass michigan.


Zero chance they don't pass Michigan if Clemson loses
RE: RE: ugh fucking Penn State...here we go.  
guitarguybs12 : 12/3/2016 11:43 pm : link
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watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.



Still won't pass michigan.


oops. yea, not VT, i meant Penn State in the playoff
RE: RE: RE: ugh fucking Penn State...here we go.  
dep026 : 12/3/2016 11:44 pm : link
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watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.



Still won't pass michigan.



Zero chance they don't pass Michigan if Clemson loses


You think jump michigan? Word was the distance between 5 and 6/7 was quite large. 40 point loss hangs large now.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ugh fucking Penn State...here we go.  
MookGiants : 12/3/2016 11:46 pm : link
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watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.



Still won't pass michigan.



Zero chance they don't pass Michigan if Clemson loses



You think jump michigan? Word was the distance between 5 and 6/7 was quite large. 40 point loss hangs large now.


They are not putting a 2 loss Michigan in over a 2 loss Penn State when one didn't even make the conference title game never mind win it, they might as well get rid of the championship gmaes if they do that.

Ohio State they can do it with, only lost 1 game and it was on the road.
irrelevant now  
dep026 : 12/3/2016 11:46 pm : link
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dep026 : 12/3/2016 11:49 pm : link
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watch, VT will beat clemson and then we'll have to deal with them being in the playoff.



Still won't pass michigan.



Zero chance they don't pass Michigan if Clemson loses



You think jump michigan? Word was the distance between 5 and 6/7 was quite large. 40 point loss hangs large now.



They are not putting a 2 loss Michigan in over a 2 loss Penn State when one didn't even make the conference title game never mind win it, they might as well get rid of the championship gmaes if they do that.

Ohio State they can do it with, only lost 1 game and it was on the road.


Then the committee should not have put michigan 5 then. Big 10 setup is a joke anyways. If it led to changes then that's a good thing. Wisconsin makes the title gsme despite not beating penn state, michigan, or Ohio st? When you have a conference title game, where teams don't play 4 conference opponent, how legitimate is the conference?
How about PITT  
B in ALB : 12/3/2016 11:50 pm : link
Beating both Clemson and Pedo State?
Penn State  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/3/2016 11:54 pm : link
Will jump Michigan. I hope they put Penn state in (I hate Penn state), but teams change over the season. Ohio State has been playing shitty the past few weeks, lost to Penn State. Penn State lost to Pitt the first week of the season and then to a good Michigan team. Pitt is a descent team too.
RE: How about PITT  
JohnVB : 12/3/2016 11:55 pm : link
In comment 13245696 B in ALB said:
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Beating both Clemson and Pedo State?


What about it? They lost 4 games.
and of course  
dep026 : 12/3/2016 11:58 pm : link
The obligatory....

Fuck wilton speight. Only reason why michigan is out.
Penn State QB  
Jay in Toronto : 12/4/2016 12:00 am : link
was lights out.

They deserve to be in the playoffs over Washington.
why do they deserve  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:03 am : link
to be in over Washington?
Best win  
jamesmichaelworm : 12/4/2016 12:05 am : link
By any team in college football, winner of best division in college football. Won't be in college playoffs
SVP  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:06 am : link
just summed it up well.

Washington's OOC schedule is what people are going to point to, but as he said, their OOC didn't get any worse this week, those games happened weeks ago, and plenty of weeks of rankings since then
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B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:07 am : link
In comment 13245698 JohnVB said:
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Beating both Clemson and Pedo State?



What about it? They lost 4 games.


oh a smart ass. They could possibly be the only team to beat two of the playoff 4.
RE: Best win  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:08 am : link
In comment 13245703 jamesmichaelworm said:
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By any team in college football, winner of best division in college football. Won't be in college playoffs


Ohio State is the best win by any team this year? Huh? At home? And they won on a fluke blocked kick scoop and score.

Ohio State destroying Oklahoma in Norman was a more impressive win, on the road.
RE: SVP  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:08 am : link
In comment 13245704 MookGiants said:
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just summed it up well.

Washington's OOC schedule is what people are going to point to, but as he said, their OOC didn't get any worse this week, those games happened weeks ago, and plenty of weeks of rankings since then


Plus Washington beating a top 10 decisively is going to boost them.

Penn state is going to the rose bowl against USC. Michigan is going to the orange bowl against FSU. Wisconsin is going to whogivesaratass bowl.
and Michigan  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:09 am : link
beating Penn State by 700 could be argued as the best win of any team
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jamesmichaelworm : 12/4/2016 12:09 am : link
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By any team in college football, winner of best division in college football. Won't be in college playoffs



Ohio State is the best win by any team this year? Huh? At home? And they won on a fluke blocked kick scoop and score.

Ohio State destroying Oklahoma in Norman was a more impressive win, on the road.
ummmm Ohio st is number 2 right now??? Who has that on their resume????
Clemson will jump Ohio State  
B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:09 am : link
And that's it.
the rankings  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:10 am : link
are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week
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dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:11 am : link
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By any team in college football, winner of best division in college football. Won't be in college playoffs



Ohio State is the best win by any team this year? Huh? At home? And they won on a fluke blocked kick scoop and score.

Ohio State destroying Oklahoma in Norman was a more impressive win, on the road.

ummmm Ohio st is number 2 right now??? Who has that on their resume????


Then does penn state have one of the worst losses too? Losing by 40 and they were fortunate enough it was only that?
I think Ohio State needs to be out  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
How can you be a national champion without winning your conference. Yes I know Bama has done it, but it's one of the major reasons they moved to a Playoff. Penn State beat them and they a way hitter team right now. Ohio State is on the downside.
You  
jamesmichaelworm : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb
so a win against the #2 team  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
at home is a better win than an absolute beatdown of the #5 (assuming that's where PSU winds up) team?

If all you're saying is they beat the highest ranked team of all of them, fine, but i wouldn't call it the best or most impressive win. What Michigan did to PSU was more impressive no matter what way you look at it
Mook is 100% correct  
B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:12 am : link
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RE: the rankings  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:13 am : link
In comment 13245713 MookGiants said:
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are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week


Washingtons has 2 signature wins 1 against Colorado and 1 against a multiple loss USC team. That's why.
Also before people start bitching about  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:15 am : link
Out of conference scheduling The SEC out of conference scheduling is a complete joke year after year and yet they usually have multiple top 10 teams.
RE: You  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:16 am : link
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Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb


Michigan was missing 3 key starters against penn state as well.
Ohio State  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:16 am : link
simply has a better resume than Penn State. I'd rather PSU in it than OSU, but OSU has a better resume. They lost 1 game, on the road, on a fluke play. They still finished 11-1, won in Madison.

I don't agree with PSU being the "way hotter" team right now. Indiana pissed that game in Bloomington away, the scoreboard shows a 15+ point or whatever it was win, but it was a 4 point game with 3 minutes to go and Indiana had the ball, and that was despite Indiana turning it over 4 times, and I believe 2 of them inside their own 20 yard line.

I hate both teams with a passion, so I don't have a bias towards one or the other, but OSU's resume is just better imo. 1 less loss is a much bigger deal than you're making it out to be.
if michigan hadn't loss to iowa  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:17 am : link
Washington would be out. But you can't keep a 1 loss team conference winner out over a 2 loss conference champ who more than likely is still the 3rd best team in their conference.
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MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:18 am : link
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are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week



Washingtons has 2 signature wins 1 against Colorado and 1 against a multiple loss USC team. That's why.


Washington lost to USC.

USC is very, very good right now. Darnold changed that team. I'd favor USC to beat any of the playoff teams on a neutral field right now besides Bama. But they aren't getting there because they were awful to start when Max Browne started
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dep026 : 12/4/2016 12:19 am : link
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are meaningless all year if they take Washington out of the top 4 after this week.

Destroyed a good Colorado team, won their conference. Penn State did not do anything this week more impressive than what Washington did this week, and Washington has 1 less loss and was 3 spots ahead of them going into this week



Washingtons has 2 signature wins 1 against Colorado and 1 against a multiple loss USC team. That's why.



Washington lost to USC.

USC is very, very good right now. Darnold changed that team. I'd favor USC to beat any of the playoff teams on a neutral field right now besides Bama. But they aren't getting there because they were awful to start when Max Browne started


USC will be at least 10 point favorite over penn state.
B, at what point do you stop lumping in this group of players ...  
Crispino : 12/4/2016 12:19 am : link
with the people who perpetrated crimes? These kids had nothing to do with it. They were little kids when the shit happened that discredited the program. I get that the administration completely fucked up, and JoePa should burn in Hell, but I don't think it's fair to paint everyone with such a broad brush. The kids that played their hearts out tonight aren't pedophiles. They're just kids who play football.
and  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:26 am : link
while I think all of Wisconsin's QB's suck shit, they did play against the backup tonight.
They are. Pedo State. Now and forever.  
B in ALB : 12/4/2016 12:26 am : link
As long as those children and their families have to live with having their lives ripped to shreds.
RE: B, at what point do you stop lumping in this group of players ...  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2016 12:32 am : link
In comment 13245729 Crispino said:
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with the people who perpetrated crimes? These kids had nothing to do with it. They were little kids when the shit happened that discredited the program. I get that the administration completely fucked up, and JoePa should burn in Hell, but I don't think it's fair to paint everyone with such a broad brush. The kids that played their hearts out tonight aren't pedophiles. They're just kids who play football.


They should have shut the program down. Not the kids fault, but should have let them transfer. Many people there still don't get it and some of them even frequent BBi.

I never liked them before the abuse came out, but they still love and are a better team then OSU.
Well, ok.  
Crispino : 12/4/2016 12:38 am : link
The answer is never. Everyone who goes to that school is, in perpetuity, iinextricably guilty of being a pedophile by extension.

That's an awful position to take. You need to rethink that.
a good portion  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 12:45 am : link
of the fans and alumni deserve to be ridiculed forever how they defended Paterno, but there was a group of fans/alumni/students that didn't defend him. They were certainly in the minority.

Think Washington belongs over PSU  
dpinzow : 12/4/2016 12:50 am : link
and the playoff will be Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and Washington. Had Clemson lost another game, PSU would get in
I'm a PSU alum  
giantsfaninphilly : 12/4/2016 1:49 am : link
I was devastated when that happened. I'll never forgive Paterno for turning his head to what happened. And I have no respect for the koolaid drinkers in central Pennsylvania who think he could do no wrong. I didn't take any joy from them winning tonight.
RE: Think Washington belongs over PSU  
jeff57 : 12/4/2016 6:06 am : link
In comment 13245738 dpinzow said:
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and the playoff will be Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and Washington. Had Clemson lost another game, PSU would get in

Agree on the 4. But they probably would have taken Michigan had either Clemson or Washington lost.
Well this  
ctc in ftmyers : 12/4/2016 7:18 am : link
confirms going to a playoff system ended all controversy of who got in.
RE: I'm a PSU alum  
pganut : 12/4/2016 7:52 am : link
In comment 13245747 giantsfaninphilly said:
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I was devastated when that happened. I'll never forgive Paterno for turning his head to what happened. And I have no respect for the koolaid drinkers in central Pennsylvania who think he could do no wrong. I didn't take any joy from them winning tonight.
This. Also an alum here, and it's something that will always rightfully cast a dark shadow. I think non PSU grads here overestimate the number of fans who absolve Paterno (as a lacrosse player who roomed with football players in the late 80s/early 90s, I can even tell you stories of how players disliked him and in the 89-90 season almost staged a player mutiny demanding playcalling changes, a story for another time). Yes, there is a small, vocal group of cultists who are the ones you should fire into the sun, but I personally know no one in my alumni network that doesn't think Paterno was asleep at the wheel and deserved culpability. That said, I also do not believe PSU has any place in the playoff. Outside the OSU win, their resume does not deserve it.
RE: RE: You  
Bramton1 : 12/4/2016 8:56 am : link
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Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb



Michigan was missing 3 key starters against penn state as well.


Yeah, Penn State was missing 3 key starters as well... among their linebackers. They run a 4-3.
RE: Ohio State  
Bramton1 : 12/4/2016 8:58 am : link
In comment 13245723 MookGiants said:
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simply has a better resume than Penn State. I'd rather PSU in it than OSU, but OSU has a better resume. They lost 1 game, on the road, on a fluke play. They still finished 11-1, won in Madison.

I don't agree with PSU being the "way hotter" team right now. Indiana pissed that game in Bloomington away, the scoreboard shows a 15+ point or whatever it was win, but it was a 4 point game with 3 minutes to go and Indiana had the ball, and that was despite Indiana turning it over 4 times, and I believe 2 of them inside their own 20 yard line.

I hate both teams with a passion, so I don't have a bias towards one or the other, but OSU's resume is just better imo. 1 less loss is a much bigger deal than you're making it out to be.


Why is the field goal block a fluke play? Ohio State didn't execute, Penn State did.
RE: RE: RE: You  
dep026 : 12/4/2016 9:04 am : link
In comment 13245801 Bramton1 said:
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Do realize penn state was missing a ton of players on defense and offense for that game. And yes committee looks at that too via Colorado losing their qb



Michigan was missing 3 key starters against penn state as well.



Yeah, Penn State was missing 3 key starters as well... among their linebackers. They run a 4-3.


So at full strength it would have been a 40 or 50 point loss?
Great job Wisconsin.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 9:31 am : link
Lololololol

Trash.
RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 10:32 am : link
In comment 13245831 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Lololololol

Trash.


Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.
Lololol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 11:24 am : link
Run out of excuses yet? I'm done with my laps. Ran circles around you. Finish your laps. Lololol
Lololol  
Patrick77 : 12/4/2016 11:29 am : link
Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?
RE: Lololol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 11:30 am : link
In comment 13245970 Patrick77 said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?


No im laughing so hard it hurts.
RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
Mike in NY : 12/4/2016 11:30 am : link
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Lololololol

Trash.



Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.


It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.
RE: RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 11:33 am : link
In comment 13245974 Mike in NY said:
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Lololololol

Trash.



Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.



It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.


Exactly. Wisconsin fuckboys running amuck.
RE: RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
MookGiants : 12/4/2016 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13245974 Mike in NY said:
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Lololololol

Trash.



Down year for Wisconsin with 2 trash QBs and injuries all over the defense yet we were big ten west champs will be a top 10 team and play in a good bowl. Yes it hurts to not beat the pedos but life goes on. Great schedule next year, not really losing anything. Should be easy preseason top 10.

Michigan was a senior laden team, but lost to their rival (again) didn't win their division (again) and will be worse next year.

Go take a lap you fucking pussy.



It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.


You do realize that Michigan lost to Iowa, right? Using that one against Wisconsin didn't exactly help
RE: Lololol  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13245970 Patrick77 said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?


He tries to get under my skin but fails. It's really sad. Dude is a father and acts like a 12 year old.
RE: RE: RE: Great job Wisconsin.  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13245974 Mike in NY said:
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It helps when the 3 best teams in the division are in the other half. 0-3 against Ohio State, Michigan and State Pen. Barely beat an Iowa team that LOST at home to an FCS team. But hey you beat Akron by 44.


Lost to OSU in OT, Michigan in Ann Arbor by one score and Penn State by one score.

All 3 were coin flip games. Not saying that Wisconsin should have won any or all, but it's weird that you mention a close win at Iowa but won't bring up the scores of the ones they lost.
RE: RE: Lololol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13246258 Jon in NYC said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?



He tries to get under my skin but fails. It's really sad. Dude is a father and acts like a 12 year old.


Come on, Son. I only dish out what I get back from you. You can't stand the heat, then back up from mommy and get out of the kitchen.
RE: RE: RE: Lololol  
Jon in NYC : 12/4/2016 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13246269 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Are you actually laughing out loud to the power of 3?

Or just trying to get under someone's skin?



He tries to get under my skin but fails. It's really sad. Dude is a father and acts like a 12 year old.



Come on, Son. I only dish out what I get back from you. You can't stand the heat, then back up from mommy and get out of the kitchen.


Like I said, it doesn't faze me. Keep doing you.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lololol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 4:00 pm : link
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Like I said, it doesn't faze me. Keep doing you.


I don't intend to have it faze you. But in all honesty. Keep at it though. You're doing great.
This LT56 clown  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 6:06 pm : link
lol. - what a joke
RE: This LT56 clown  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 6:11 pm : link
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lol. - what a joke


You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?
RE: RE: This LT56 clown  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13247289 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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lol. - what a joke



You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?


You done with the crap guesswork and calling others out prick? Apparently not. I'm not Flounder while yet another thread proves you're an ass
RE: RE: RE: This LT56 clown  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 6:51 pm : link
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lol. - what a joke



You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?



You done with the crap guesswork and calling others out prick? Apparently not. I'm not Flounder while yet another thread proves you're an ass


Pretty sure you call me out every chance on these college threads. Either you're a Jon dupe or just stalk me. And at least own your history.. Jesus.
RE: RE: RE: RE: This LT56 clown  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 6:58 pm : link
In comment 13247757 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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lol. - what a joke



You done crying on your Youtube channel yet?



You done with the crap guesswork and calling others out prick? Apparently not. I'm not Flounder while yet another thread proves you're an ass



Pretty sure you call me out every chance on these college threads. Either you're a Jon dupe or just stalk me. And at least own your history.. Jesus.


Wrong again ahole. Never called you out. Never even heard of you until this Flounder crap appeared with you name attached. Great job in yet another thread making enemies.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This LT56 clown  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 7:01 pm : link
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Wrong again ahole. Never called you out. Never even heard of you until this Flounder crap appeared with you name attached. Great job in yet another thread making enemies.


I confused you with Giants in 07.. I know you were a poster and he was. My bad. You took it to heart. And you follow me around on these threads were Jon and I give each other shit because of Mich/Wisc. You get your little potshots in here and there. If you want to take a potshot, fine. But expect it back. Don't act like a little bitch when I give it back.
Just ban youself  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 7:05 pm : link
Sweetheart

You instigate and then take the cowardly high road. Get lost troll
RE: Just ban youself  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/4/2016 7:07 pm : link
In comment 13247950 Giants2012 said:
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Sweetheart

You instigate and then take the cowardly high road. Get lost troll


Funny. I feel that you do exactly that. And I didn't know taking the high road was considered cowardly. Today I learned.
RE: RE: Just ban youself  
Giants2012 : 12/4/2016 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13247963 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Sweetheart

You instigate and then take the cowardly high road. Get lost troll



Funny. I feel that you do exactly that. And I didn't know taking the high road was considered cowardly. Today I learned.


You're literally too stupid to insult. You accuse me of somebody i'm not, then a mod corrects you. Now you accuse me of being another stalker and i'm in the wrong lol. Nice job psycho. Keep up the delusions others are at fault.
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