and hoping it goes in then letting Carmelo take that last shot. Guys better then good but seems like a total dud over the past few years taking the BIG one
He was right there and he let a smaller player take the rebound. I know everyone loves the new shiny toys but right now he has some serious rebounding issues going on there. Every night another opposing PF dominates the boards.
WOOOO Towns just got his ass handed to him twice by KP and Kyle
He was right there and he let a smaller player take the rebound. I know everyone loves the new shiny toys but right now he has some serious rebounding issues going on there. Every night another opposing PF dominates the boards.
He's young and has a lot to learn still. He does seem to try to get by just with his height , and doesn't position himself well for rebounds. It took Ewing years to become a good rebounder
He was right there and he let a smaller player take the rebound. I know everyone loves the new shiny toys but right now he has some serious rebounding issues going on there. Every night another opposing PF dominates the boards.
He's young and has a lot to learn still. He does seem to try to get by just with his height , and doesn't position himself well for rebounds. It took Ewing years to become a good rebounder
This is not the same Porzingis from last year. Last year he was skying for rebounds. I'm not sure what happened or if he is hurt but it is not the same effort on the boards or really on post defense.
Some will just look at his improve scoring but I rather he focus on D and rebounding. But whatever.
Hornacek will have a tough decision to make when Noah is cleared
well it shouldn't be that tough but that contract makes it so. Kudos to KOQ for getting into real shape this off-season. He is like a different post player.
He was right there and he let a smaller player take the rebound. I know everyone loves the new shiny toys but right now he has some serious rebounding issues going on there. Every night another opposing PF dominates the boards.
He's young and has a lot to learn still. He does seem to try to get by just with his height , and doesn't position himself well for rebounds. It took Ewing years to become a good rebounder
This is not the same Porzingis from last year. Last year he was skying for rebounds. I'm not sure what happened or if he is hurt but it is not the same effort on the boards or really on post defense.
Some will just look at his improve scoring but I rather he focus on D and rebounding. But whatever.
I've said it before and I'll stand by it. Young guys, especially bigs, don't become impact defensive players that quickly. Anthony Davis was a once in a generation defensive prospect coming in and he was an average/below average defender up until a year or two ago.
If I'm 4 years nothing's changed then I'll back off that stance. But even now KP is a major net positive on the court (not tonight). But I still don't doubt that he'll become a major help defender. Rebounding we will see.
He just turned 21 years old and was a guy that was considered raw and wouldn't make an impact for 3-5 years. He will be a damn good rebounder and defender. He's like 90 games into his NBA career.
His rebounding rate is ticking down because he's at the arc
He just turned 21 years old and was a guy that was considered raw and wouldn't make an impact for 3-5 years. He will be a damn good rebounder and defender. He's like 90 games into his NBA career.
Great reminder.
All the experts said we wouldn't see, what we're seeing now, until year four. I can't wait to see what he is by year four.
I'm just ecstatic we have the unicorn on our team. Thank you Phil.
Porzingis is now only a "shiny new toy"? Holy crap, some people are just never happy. So a skinny 21 year old that was very raw coming into the league isn't a perfectly finished product yet. Shocking.
catalyst. Played real tough(finally). Rose carried us when we needed it, holiday played very well and we are starting to figure things out. Melo hit some big shots and the bench had its moments. Even vujacic had a few good ones. Above .500 and only 3 games back in the division.
I think it's ok to point out where Porzingis can get better(and he most certainly will), but the dude above was way over the top.
Has a shot at an all rookie team? His stats don't stand out but the rookie crap has overall been awful with like 2 rookies averaging more than 10 Ppg so far. He's shooting 60% and his per 36 numbers are 15 and 11.
I know these teams are meaningless essentially, but would be cool if he got a spot.
Has a shot at an all rookie team? His stats don't stand out but the rookie crap has overall been awful with like 2 rookies averaging more than 10 Ppg so far. He's shooting 60% and his per 36 numbers are 15 and 11.
I know these teams are meaningless essentially, but would be cool if he got a spot.
when noah comes back, if oquinn keeps playing the way he is, he may lose his spot in the rotation...
Since Noah has proven he can't stay healthy and will play less than 40 games this year. Bad signing by Phil
Not because of the money or the talent but because he gave Noah 4 years
And I understand Noah wasn't coming here for any less
Chicago and the Knicks are 7-3 in the the last 10 games. No other Eastern Conference team has done as well.
And yeah, I worry a lot about Noah. What has he had, one really strong game? I think that to prepare for the future, his minutes have to be cut way back, even if he plays well. O'Quinn is a net positive most of the time when he is on the floor, and might even get better with PT. And the need to let Billie progress, which means minutes.
O'Quinn, btw, is a massive surprise after last year. Not the same player.
Chicago and the Knicks are 7-3 in the the last 10 games. No other Eastern Conference team has done as well.
And yeah, I worry a lot about Noah. What has he had, one really strong game? I think that to prepare for the future, his minutes have to be cut way back, even if he plays well. O'Quinn is a net positive most of the time when he is on the floor, and might even get better with PT. And the need to let Billie progress, which means minutes.
O'Quinn, btw, is a massive surprise after last year. Not the same player.
For better or worse I don't think KOQ is any different then last year. He's still producing the same stuff when he gets minutes. Only difference is that he's been forced to start games early in the season unlike last year. Aside from that I don't think there's a difference. He's still the same efficient scorer, great rebounder, high foul rate, decent defender, and subpar rim protecting C as last year. If he gets minutes this is what he will do. I don't think I've learned anything new about him this year. He's a really good player to have on your team.
but I take them with a grain of salt. I don't think per 36 minutes is the end all be all statistic to see how a player would produce as a starter, because you have to consider if the player is a major liability in a certain area. KOQ really isn't except for fouls, which I don't think is a big deal considering how many liabilities there are and have been on defense for this team. Let him foul out. Its better than what just letting guys score at the basket instead of rotating (which I've seen Noah do on a few occasions himself this season). He does so many other things so well.
Since Noah has proven he can't stay healthy and will play less than 40 games this year. Bad signing by Phil
Not because of the money or the talent but because he gave Noah 4 years
And I understand Noah wasn't coming here for any less
Proven? Look I didn't love the Noah signing but nothing's been proven yet. He had the flu and a twisted ankle. He may play in 60 games here on out.
was fisher jerking around the rotation every game, that stupid idea of everyone deserves minutes killed the bench...
oquinn came out in the preseason and he may have played like the best big on the team and then season starts and has a good start to the season and then all of sudden he was benched...
then it was 5 mjnutes here, 5 mjnutes there and i think he got to the point last year where he said screw this...
Evidenced by both his game to game play and his increase in minutes played, injuries or not. The guy just looks better out there. He's become a part of the puzzle here moving forward. At the very least he's an affordable younger big. He's a piece. Another win by Phil Jackson. Thank god he was hired we finally have a future if not a present.
And there was a reason, even if it was a bit unfounded why fisher benched KOQ last year-- he was making mistakes on a nightly basis. The talkies even discussed these errors during and after games. There was no conspiracy to keep KOQ down he just didn't earn the trust of Fisher. You can indict Fisher for failing to teach and nurture KOQ but there's a reason he was benched. Credit to both KOQ and horn for getting things straightened out.
And he was nowhere near as effective around the basket
He's an animal on the boards lately and he missed a lot of those putbacks and midrange jumpers last year. After he was benched he just lost his confidence and became tentative.
And there was a reason, even if it was a bit unfounded why fisher benched KOQ last year-- he was making mistakes on a nightly basis. The talkies even discussed these errors during and after games. There was no conspiracy to keep KOQ down he just didn't earn the trust of Fisher. You can indict Fisher for failing to teach and nurture KOQ but there's a reason he was benched. Credit to both KOQ and horn for getting things straightened out.
I actually think he was basically this good last year, probably a touch worse. KOQ makes bad plays. He just does. The problem we see is that coaches would rather play the guy who makes 1 good play and one bad play than the one who makes 5 good plays and 2 bad plays.
KOQ's stat rates both years in NY are very good, except TOs and PFs. He just doesnt look good doing it.
RE: And he was nowhere near as effective around the basket
He's an animal on the boards lately and he missed a lot of those putbacks and midrange jumpers last year. After he was benched he just lost his confidence and became tentative.
His per minute rebounds and reb% were better last year. He was a good player last year. Just didnt get run.
RE: And he was nowhere near as effective around the basket
He's an animal on the boards lately and he missed a lot of those putbacks and midrange jumpers last year. After he was benched he just lost his confidence and became tentative.
His shooting at the rim is down to 59% from 63% (still a very, very good number). From 3-10 feet is down 13% (but hes getting rid of that part of the game). His mid range is down more than 10%. His long two has shot up by 15%. Hes actually becoming more effective from the perimeter, but everywhere else he's roughly the same or a bit worse (but not bad by any means, just comes as a result of higher minutes presumably).
Don't think he's any better or worse than last year.
I think it's ok to point out where Porzingis can get better(and he most certainly will), but the dude above was way over the top.
It's not hard to see what his motive was. He got all in a huff because people were getting on his boy Melo the other night (deservedly so) so he was chomping at the bit for Melo to have a good game so he could have his "I told you so" moment while doubling up and killing KP (who he knows everyone loves).
Enjoy the blow out
Most importantly: 0 fouls.
He's young and has a lot to learn still. He does seem to try to get by just with his height , and doesn't position himself well for rebounds. It took Ewing years to become a good rebounder
Zinger is not a dominant rebounder yet but has potential
Don't bother engaging, he's just trying to troll. I have no problem criticizing Melo when he plays 1 on 5, but he's played a strong team game tonight
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He was right there and he let a smaller player take the rebound. I know everyone loves the new shiny toys but right now he has some serious rebounding issues going on there. Every night another opposing PF dominates the boards.
He's young and has a lot to learn still. He does seem to try to get by just with his height , and doesn't position himself well for rebounds. It took Ewing years to become a good rebounder
This is not the same Porzingis from last year. Last year he was skying for rebounds. I'm not sure what happened or if he is hurt but it is not the same effort on the boards or really on post defense.
Some will just look at his improve scoring but I rather he focus on D and rebounding. But whatever.
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he's playing harder, shooting better, and giving his all in everything aspect tonight.
Don't bother engaging, he's just trying to troll. I have no problem criticizing Melo when he plays 1 on 5, but he's played a strong team game tonight
What are you talking about?
Oh. Eh, he was on tonight. That's all I care about. He's been off and deserving of some shit talk, so... w/e
Good win tonight. O'Quinn showed a lot.
And yet melo has the most game winning late 4th quarter shots EVER. Or at least since they have been recording that stat. Literally.
Melo has missed a few the last couple of years but your repeated claims are false. Couldn't be more false actually.
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He was right there and he let a smaller player take the rebound. I know everyone loves the new shiny toys but right now he has some serious rebounding issues going on there. Every night another opposing PF dominates the boards.
He's young and has a lot to learn still. He does seem to try to get by just with his height , and doesn't position himself well for rebounds. It took Ewing years to become a good rebounder
This is not the same Porzingis from last year. Last year he was skying for rebounds. I'm not sure what happened or if he is hurt but it is not the same effort on the boards or really on post defense.
Some will just look at his improve scoring but I rather he focus on D and rebounding. But whatever.
I've said it before and I'll stand by it. Young guys, especially bigs, don't become impact defensive players that quickly. Anthony Davis was a once in a generation defensive prospect coming in and he was an average/below average defender up until a year or two ago.
If I'm 4 years nothing's changed then I'll back off that stance. But even now KP is a major net positive on the court (not tonight). But I still don't doubt that he'll become a major help defender. Rebounding we will see.
Last year he was much more midrange.
Great reminder.
All the experts said we wouldn't see, what we're seeing now, until year four. I can't wait to see what he is by year four.
I'm just ecstatic we have the unicorn on our team. Thank you Phil.
I think it's ok to point out where Porzingis can get better(and he most certainly will), but the dude above was way over the top.
Dirks d rebounding %s years 1 and 2: 14.3% and 15.6%, respectively.
Overall rebounding percentage is een a bigger discrepancy in favor of KP.
I think it's safe to say KP had better physical tools than Dirk. It may be shocking but I'm not worried at all.
I know these teams are meaningless essentially, but would be cool if he got a spot.
I know these teams are meaningless essentially, but would be cool if he got a spot.
when noah comes back, if oquinn keeps playing the way he is, he may lose his spot in the rotation...
Not because of the money or the talent but because he gave Noah 4 years
And I understand Noah wasn't coming here for any less
And yeah, I worry a lot about Noah. What has he had, one really strong game? I think that to prepare for the future, his minutes have to be cut way back, even if he plays well. O'Quinn is a net positive most of the time when he is on the floor, and might even get better with PT. And the need to let Billie progress, which means minutes.
O'Quinn, btw, is a massive surprise after last year. Not the same player.
And yeah, I worry a lot about Noah. What has he had, one really strong game? I think that to prepare for the future, his minutes have to be cut way back, even if he plays well. O'Quinn is a net positive most of the time when he is on the floor, and might even get better with PT. And the need to let Billie progress, which means minutes.
O'Quinn, btw, is a massive surprise after last year. Not the same player.
For better or worse I don't think KOQ is any different then last year. He's still producing the same stuff when he gets minutes. Only difference is that he's been forced to start games early in the season unlike last year. Aside from that I don't think there's a difference. He's still the same efficient scorer, great rebounder, high foul rate, decent defender, and subpar rim protecting C as last year. If he gets minutes this is what he will do. I don't think I've learned anything new about him this year. He's a really good player to have on your team.
I don't subscribe to that idea as much as the fact that this was his first game as a Knick in which he received more than 25 minutes in a game.
Not because of the money or the talent but because he gave Noah 4 years
And I understand Noah wasn't coming here for any less
Proven? Look I didn't love the Noah signing but nothing's been proven yet. He had the flu and a twisted ankle. He may play in 60 games here on out.
oquinn came out in the preseason and he may have played like the best big on the team and then season starts and has a good start to the season and then all of sudden he was benched...
then it was 5 mjnutes here, 5 mjnutes there and i think he got to the point last year where he said screw this...
I actually think he was basically this good last year, probably a touch worse. KOQ makes bad plays. He just does. The problem we see is that coaches would rather play the guy who makes 1 good play and one bad play than the one who makes 5 good plays and 2 bad plays.
KOQ's stat rates both years in NY are very good, except TOs and PFs. He just doesnt look good doing it.
His per minute rebounds and reb% were better last year. He was a good player last year. Just didnt get run.
His shooting at the rim is down to 59% from 63% (still a very, very good number). From 3-10 feet is down 13% (but hes getting rid of that part of the game). His mid range is down more than 10%. His long two has shot up by 15%. Hes actually becoming more effective from the perimeter, but everywhere else he's roughly the same or a bit worse (but not bad by any means, just comes as a result of higher minutes presumably).
Don't think he's any better or worse than last year.
I think it's ok to point out where Porzingis can get better(and he most certainly will), but the dude above was way over the top.
It's not hard to see what his motive was. He got all in a huff because people were getting on his boy Melo the other night (deservedly so) so he was chomping at the bit for Melo to have a good game so he could have his "I told you so" moment while doubling up and killing KP (who he knows everyone loves).
That was easy and very predictable.