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NFT: Hot Stove: Beltran signs with Astors

Stan in LA : 12/3/2016 3:35 pm
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$16 mil  
JayBinQueens : 12/3/2016 3:42 pm : link
is a great grab for him
really hope  
DaddyM89 : 12/3/2016 3:42 pm : link
this opens the door for Encarnacion to yankees. Him and gary would be a great 3-4 punch
Who are the Astors?  
pjcas18 : 12/3/2016 3:48 pm : link
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I'm now guessing Napoli to the Yanks. Can't see them  
yatqb : 12/3/2016 3:48 pm : link
going 5/100 for EE.

Sad to see Beltran get away.
You wont be sad when he hits  
xman : 12/3/2016 3:54 pm : link
like a 40 year old hits.
My guess  
rich in DC : 12/3/2016 3:58 pm : link
I think EE goes back to the Jays.

I think Matt Holliday signs with the Yanks to be their DH/righty 1B.
RE: You wont be sad when he hits  
yatqb : 12/3/2016 4:01 pm : link
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like a 40 year old hits.


Yeah, he was awful last year. If he could just hit like a 26 year old Aaron Hicks he'd be OK, right?
RE: Who are the Astors?  
pganut : 12/3/2016 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13245456 pjcas18 said:
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He picked them over the Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Gettys and Rothschilds. Party over in Little Egg Harbor.
Encarnacion, Napoli, Holiday...?  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/3/2016 4:02 pm : link
This is going to be interesting.
RE: Who are the Astors?  
Jay in Toronto : 12/3/2016 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13245456 pjcas18 said:
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You don't know??

16 mil is pocket change for them.
RE: My guess  
illmatic : 12/3/2016 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13245464 rich in DC said:
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I think EE goes back to the Jays.

I think Matt Holliday signs with the Yanks to be their DH/righty 1B.


Yeah, I'm leaning towards this too. Every time I want to think the Yankees are seriously in on EE, I keep thinking they don't want to give up that first for a guy in his mid 30's. I think they'll go with Holliday or Carter. Holliday would have to be a one year deal though and I don't know if he'll accept that.
RE: RE: You wont be sad when he hits  
section125 : 12/3/2016 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13245465 yatqb said:
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like a 40 year old hits.



Yeah, he was awful last year. If he could just hit like a 26 year old Aaron Hicks he'd be OK, right?


So A-Rod pretty much crushed it 3/4 of the way through 40 y/o. Then the roof caved in. Now ARod had hip surgeries, etc but the end seems to come quickly ay 40...
For Beltran it's just money, and one year.  
yatqb : 12/3/2016 4:11 pm : link
So, if he crashes what did you lose? Money...big deal.

Holliday may well be the guy, and he hasn't been healthy in forever; I'd much prefer Beltran to him although I can see the allure of either him or Napoli, as they give us protection at 1B and also don't cost us a pick.
I'm sure the key for Beltran was the NTC.  
Keith : 12/3/2016 4:16 pm : link
I'm guessing he didn't want to sign w the Yankees if they were just going to flip him at the deadline again.
RE: I'm sure the key for Beltran was the NTC.  
yatqb : 12/3/2016 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13245478 Keith said:
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I'm guessing he didn't want to sign w the Yankees if they were just going to flip him at the deadline again.


Keith, I was thinking the same thing.
On the NTC  
bigbluehoya : 12/3/2016 4:29 pm : link
Any team that's buying in the trade market at the deadline is a contender. If the team I signed with is far enough out of it to be a seller, I'd pretty much be willing to go anywhere for 2-3 months for a shot at a ring.

Of course, the NTC doesn't mean he won't be traded, he just gets to drive the bus now. So I get it: having one is always better than not having one. Just wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I were him in this case.
You can't say that unless you are in his shoes.  
Keith : 12/3/2016 4:30 pm : link
There are other factors involved, such as live by arrangements and family.
RE: RE: Who are the Astors?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2016 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13245467 pganut said:
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He picked them over the Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Gettys and Rothschilds. Party over in Little Egg Harbor.


Hahaha. Good one.
RE: You can't say that unless you are in his shoes.  
bigbluehoya : 12/3/2016 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13245495 Keith said:
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There are other factors involved, such as live by arrangements and family.


Of course you can't. Just like there's no way of knowing that Houston wasn't actually his preferred destination all things being equal.

My personal opinion is that a NTC on a one year deal wouldn't be the difference (to someone who is probably worth about $100M) to accept an offer to play somewhere other than where he really wanted to be. You as correct that the decision was his and not mine. I have no way of proving it.

That's 'Astros'  
Stan in LA : 12/3/2016 5:03 pm : link
I'm glad no one noticed.
Power is still at a premium....  
ZGiants98 : 12/3/2016 5:26 pm : link
Any Mets fans worried about Bruce's worth at 11 Million and Granderson at 15 million need to look no further than this deal.
He did pretty well  
spike : 12/3/2016 5:53 pm : link
for the Astros the last time they are in the playoffs.
Were the Yankees reluctant to give him a NTC?  
jcn56 : 12/3/2016 5:54 pm : link
On a one year contract, seems a bit tough, especially for a guy you're signing back after you just traded him for a decent haul.
RE: Power is still at a premium....  
Jay on the Island : 12/3/2016 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13245539 ZGiants98 said:
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Any Mets fans worried about Bruce's worth at 11 Million and Granderson at 15 million need to look no further than this deal.

If Bruce is dealt I am betting that Mets fans are going to be a little disappointed with the return. I would be shocked if they received a similar package to the one they gave up for Bruce. I think Granderson could get a decent return. Not a top 10 prospect but maybe a couple of prospects in the 10-25 range.
RE: RE: Power is still at a premium....  
PhiPsi125 : 12/3/2016 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13245596 Jay on the Island said:
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Any Mets fans worried about Bruce's worth at 11 Million and Granderson at 15 million need to look no further than this deal.


If Bruce is dealt I am betting that Mets fans are going to be a little disappointed with the return. I would be shocked if they received a similar package to the one they gave up for Bruce. I think Granderson could get a decent return. Not a top 10 prospect but maybe a couple of prospects in the 10-25 range.


Maybe, but I think that Bruce's value is more than you think it is. Trades are a crapshoot most of the time. Unless you are the Braves trading with the Diamondbacks, lol.
watch  
spike : 12/3/2016 11:39 pm : link
Bruce go back to hitting 30+ homers and 100 RBIs in another uniform.
RE: watch  
Eric on Li : 12/3/2016 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13245679 spike said:
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Bruce go back to hitting 30+ homers and 100 RBIs in another uniform.


It's not really going back, he did it last year. We just got him during his worst month (August). His September was pretty normal (6 homers, .250 BA). If he goes to the right situation (Baltimore for example) he may hit 40 HR next year.
I don't think  
JayBinQueens : 12/4/2016 12:17 am : link
Bruce can perform with the spotlight.

In Baltimore or a similar smaller market he'd be great
Bruce as a DH might work for the Yanks  
xman : 12/4/2016 12:19 am : link
power bat from the left sde
He never wanted to be in NY  
PhiPsi125 : 12/4/2016 12:56 am : link
So I'm sure that and the shittyness of being traded contributed to his poor play when he got to the Mets. He's a good player and should have a lot of value for teams looking for power.
i doubt he CAN'T  
SethFromAstoria : 12/4/2016 1:02 am : link
perform here....they have a lineup, he actually fits it, and asde from the slump of a very streaky player, he actually did perform here. The problem is going into it with that bitchy cry baby attitude. You can go to a team capable of winning wih that pitching and no spotlight on you and you still bitch about "going to nyc"? I mean i'll root for him if he stays. Of course. But he's a bitch.
^  
Kyle in NY : 12/4/2016 2:13 am : link
Ok that was weird
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Mike in Long Beach : 12/4/2016 2:48 am : link
RE: ^  
PhiPsi125 : 12/4/2016 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13245750 Kyle in NY said:
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Ok that was weird


LMAO...yeah
How about Mike Saunders (Tor)  
Jeever : 12/4/2016 4:54 pm : link
24 dingers from the left side. He lit us up a couple of times. Good power fro the left side and would come cheap.
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