Is that the drop in some of his peripherals plus some suspect arm history is a precursor for falling off a cliff with nationals. If him and Strasburg stay healthy all year we are screwed. It really chaps my buns that Mets could have drafted giolito but were too cheap or willing to wait.
offer would have. Seems like we had similar pieces to at least the first 2 rumored parts of the trade. Shaw seems like IF platoon fodder and Pennington sounds like a very talented pitcher who then underwent TJS. Flores + Molina Dan?
Shaw wouldn't have been a bad fit for the Mets to be honest. And athornburg is a perfect fit for the Mets ;(
In Mets terms it's a great deal for the Red Sox. The Brewers are totally blowing it up so 3 young pitches for a reliever is fine but for the Sox they gave up some minor league "depth" for a 2017 potential difference maker who is controlled for the next 3 seasons. It's not a "bad" deal for the Brewers but in terms of the Mets it's a great move for Boston.
they felt like the Panda has slimmed down in a major way (for now). No clue what he did, but he looks like he shed a person from the fat guy who busted his belt swinging the bat.
1) They really liked Thornburg
2) As you stated Panda is in shape... for the time being
3) They have Moncada
4) Likely isn't too hard to find a Shaw type if need be.
J.P. (Springfield, IL): Thanks for chatting, Matt. How far off was Andres Gimenez, and are you reasonably confident he can remain at SS for the forseeable future?
Matt Eddy: We take our prospect rankings to 30 and beyond, as you know. So while Venezuelan SS Andres Gimenez didn't crack the top 10 (yet), he is prominently featured in the Prospect Handbook chapter. One of the top international talents available in 2015, he turned in an outstanding pro debut in the Dominican Summer League in 2016. Gimenez led the circuit in on-base percentage (.469) while ranking second in average (.350) and doubles (20). He can be a plus hitter with above-avg wheels and above-avg ability at shortstop.
Frank (Indianapolis IN): How many of these guys are likely to make the BA 100?
Matt Eddy: Amed Rosario and Dominic Smith are locks. Justin Dunn is probable. Desmond Lindsay is possible. I could construct cases for Brandon Nimmo, Gavin Cecchini, Robert Gsellman and even Thomas Szapucki, but I wouldn't count on them making it.
Sounds like the low ranking for Szapucki relates to risk vs. stuff
Zac (NY): Hi Matt- I saw Szapucki pitch live a few times last season and he looked lights out. It was short season A ball of course, but do you think he has potential to be a top of the rotation guy? Do you have a comp for him/how he needs to develop?
Matt Eddy: From my Word doc to your computer screen: "He just looks like a front-line guy." That's what one pro scout said about LHP Thomas Szapucki based on his look in short-season ball this year. When a teen lefthander has two present plus pitches and a dominating performance, you have to take notice. Szapicki could shoot toward the top of this list next year if he can maintain his stuff and health over 20 starts in full-season ball in 2017. That's not exactly a given, though, because the Mets shut him down early in 2016 with a back issue, and his control needs work, as does his changeup.
Matt Eddy: Without hesitation, I would answer SS/2B Phillip Evans, who won the Eastern League batting title this year. That calls to mind Rangers 2B Odubel Herrera, who won a Double-A bating title in 2014, the year the Phillies Rule 5'd him. Evans has some gap power and a sound hitting approach, but he doesn't really run or draw walks. Lots of contact and positional versatility (he has the arm for SS and 3B) is what a team would be buying. The Mets left Evans off the 40-man because they have similar players already, such as Gavin Cecchini, Matt Reynolds and even T.J. Rivera. Some other Mets who might generate Rule 5 interest would be relievers Nabil Crismatt or Paul Sewald or possibly one-tool standouts like Champ Stuart (speed) or Travis Taijeron (power).
DW (NYC): Matt, Awesome chat. Would you mind naming a few pitchers you like most of the group of arms below St. Lucie? The Gonzalez's, Simon etc? Anyone stand out?
Matt Eddy: Sure, the best arms at Low-A or short-season ball in 2016 (excluding 2016 first-round picks and Top 10 Prospects) were: RHP Merandy Gonzalez, RHP Harrol Gonzalez, RHP Jordan Humphries, LHP Jake Simon and RHP Cameron Planck, the 11th-round Kentucky prep whom they signed for $1 million. Oh, and RHP Adonis Uceta throws really hard and reminds some of Hansel Robles.
Dan Warthen (NYC): Matt, Any thoughts/insight from scouts regarding my ability to somehow coax notably "better" stuff out of SP once they are called up? Does this impact evaluation of Mets pitching prospects?
Matt Eddy: Triple-A pitching coach Frank Viola, pitching coordinator Ron Romanick and other coaches also put a lot into young Mets pitchers. Because while the Mets don't necessarily have *more* pitching prospects than other organizations, they tend to maximize the value of their young pitchers. Additionally, touted Mets rookies are always ready to compete in the majors, with the possible exception of Rafael Montero.
Clayton (Chicago): What is Brandon Nimmo's ceiling and floor? And who is a good comp? Thanks!
Matt Eddy: Possibly a table-setting left fielder, a la David DeJesus, or if Nimmo begins to turn on more early-count fastballs, maybe a David Murphy-type corner outfielder. I'm interested to hear comps from fans, though. Hit me up on Twitter at @MattEddyBA
Get used to it fellas lol
Get used to it fellas lol
Uh oh, Plawecki 2.0? lol
Career ban. Will never pitch for the Mets again.
Crossing the Ts and dotting the i's on the paperwork before they file that lawsuit against MLB lol. Any day now, any day
But passing on giolito is not one I'd lose sleep over.
In Mets terms it's a great deal for the Red Sox. The Brewers are totally blowing it up so 3 young pitches for a reliever is fine but for the Sox they gave up some minor league "depth" for a 2017 potential difference maker who is controlled for the next 3 seasons. It's not a "bad" deal for the Brewers but in terms of the Mets it's a great move for Boston.
For Mets, the returns for Bruce thus far are underwhelming, I hear. And no traction on Granderson talks. Mets really want to keep him.
For Mets, the returns for Bruce thus far are underwhelming, I hear. And no traction on Granderson talks. Mets really want to keep him.
Lol. These reporters are such puppets. Always late to the party.
1) They really liked Thornburg
2) As you stated Panda is in shape... for the time being
3) They have Moncada
4) Likely isn't too hard to find a Shaw type if need be.
Matt Eddy: We take our prospect rankings to 30 and beyond, as you know. So while Venezuelan SS Andres Gimenez didn't crack the top 10 (yet), he is prominently featured in the Prospect Handbook chapter. One of the top international talents available in 2015, he turned in an outstanding pro debut in the Dominican Summer League in 2016. Gimenez led the circuit in on-base percentage (.469) while ranking second in average (.350) and doubles (20). He can be a plus hitter with above-avg wheels and above-avg ability at shortstop.
Frank (Indianapolis IN): How many of these guys are likely to make the BA 100?
Matt Eddy: Amed Rosario and Dominic Smith are locks. Justin Dunn is probable. Desmond Lindsay is possible. I could construct cases for Brandon Nimmo, Gavin Cecchini, Robert Gsellman and even Thomas Szapucki, but I wouldn't count on them making it.
What do they do with him for 2017? Brooklyn? Cut him? Other?
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did not make the top 30..
What do they do with him for 2017? Brooklyn? Cut him? Other?
Milk him for revenue. BK or Columbia
Teams asked the Mets about Robert Gsellman and were told by Sandy Alderson the club has no intention of trading.
Zac (NY): Hi Matt- I saw Szapucki pitch live a few times last season and he looked lights out. It was short season A ball of course, but do you think he has potential to be a top of the rotation guy? Do you have a comp for him/how he needs to develop?
Matt Eddy: From my Word doc to your computer screen: "He just looks like a front-line guy." That's what one pro scout said about LHP Thomas Szapucki based on his look in short-season ball this year. When a teen lefthander has two present plus pitches and a dominating performance, you have to take notice. Szapicki could shoot toward the top of this list next year if he can maintain his stuff and health over 20 starts in full-season ball in 2017. That's not exactly a given, though, because the Mets shut him down early in 2016 with a back issue, and his control needs work, as does his changeup.
I know, still curious to see who it was and what they were considering offering.
Matt Eddy: Without hesitation, I would answer SS/2B Phillip Evans, who won the Eastern League batting title this year. That calls to mind Rangers 2B Odubel Herrera, who won a Double-A bating title in 2014, the year the Phillies Rule 5'd him. Evans has some gap power and a sound hitting approach, but he doesn't really run or draw walks. Lots of contact and positional versatility (he has the arm for SS and 3B) is what a team would be buying. The Mets left Evans off the 40-man because they have similar players already, such as Gavin Cecchini, Matt Reynolds and even T.J. Rivera. Some other Mets who might generate Rule 5 interest would be relievers Nabil Crismatt or Paul Sewald or possibly one-tool standouts like Champ Stuart (speed) or Travis Taijeron (power).
Billy (St. Lucie): In your opinion who would be the closest player comp for Rosario?
Matt Eddy: We have heard everything from Jose Iglesias to Elvis Andrus.
Matt Eddy: Sure, the best arms at Low-A or short-season ball in 2016 (excluding 2016 first-round picks and Top 10 Prospects) were: RHP Merandy Gonzalez, RHP Harrol Gonzalez, RHP Jordan Humphries, LHP Jake Simon and RHP Cameron Planck, the 11th-round Kentucky prep whom they signed for $1 million. Oh, and RHP Adonis Uceta throws really hard and reminds some of Hansel Robles.
Dan Warthen (NYC): Matt, Any thoughts/insight from scouts regarding my ability to somehow coax notably "better" stuff out of SP once they are called up? Does this impact evaluation of Mets pitching prospects?
Matt Eddy: Triple-A pitching coach Frank Viola, pitching coordinator Ron Romanick and other coaches also put a lot into young Mets pitchers. Because while the Mets don't necessarily have *more* pitching prospects than other organizations, they tend to maximize the value of their young pitchers. Additionally, touted Mets rookies are always ready to compete in the majors, with the possible exception of Rafael Montero.
Matt Eddy: Possibly a table-setting left fielder, a la David DeJesus, or if Nimmo begins to turn on more early-count fastballs, maybe a David Murphy-type corner outfielder. I'm interested to hear comps from fans, though. Hit me up on Twitter at @MattEddyBA