relief pitcher idea have legs? If so who moves to the 5th spot?
Gsellman or Lugo ?
Does Montero have value anymore?
Sounds like Wheeler to the pen is more of a backup plan if they strike out on relievers vs. a real consideration. Sounds like Gsellman will be the #5 or they will open with 6. Lugo likely heads to AAA to start vs. sticking him in the pen as they don't have SP's depth in AAA should MLB arms get hurt. Montero is likely an ex-Met come opening day. His 40 man spot is tenuous.
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Mets don't have traction on a trade of an outfielder at the moment. In their perfect world, would get bullpen help in return.
I'd imagine the Mets conversations will start kicking in. Don't expect them to make any big flashy moves and usually those are the first dominoes to fall.
to nitpick but Reyes on the bench is almost like double dipping as the expectation is he's basically going to be the starting 3b more days than not and Wright will have many days where he not only won't be starting, he will be unavailable to play.
crazy how much can be quantified these days. Would be really interesting if the data were available to go back and see if someone like Pudge was really as good defensively as we thought.
how good Posey is. #1 pitch framer in the game to go with a career .307 hitter. Future HOFer. Both TDA and Plawecki graded well with pitch framing but it's been said TDA sometimes is TOO focused on it tot he detriment of his other defense. Sherlock likely will be focused on this.
His Defense is way better than advertised and I really think he's going to be an excellent hitter. I know we seemingly have a glut of Corner Outfielders but this is not the one to trade unless we really get equal value to what this kid could be, not the very slightly damaged goods he might be right now based on his regression last season.
they want 2 late inning guys and are listening to anything except Rosario. I don't want to trade Conforto either but there could be a scenario where it makes sense if a potential MVP caliber player is on the table (not sure McCutchen is still in that category, but it's worth them investigating the price).
disagree with stance of not going more than 1 for ANY reliever. Any reliever settling for 1 year likely has a major reason why. 2 years shouldn't cause you to walk away. I get not wanting to commit 3-4 years to a reliever.
disagree with stance of not going more than 1 for ANY reliever. Any reliever settling for 1 year likely has a major reason why. 2 years shouldn't cause you to walk away. I get not wanting to commit 3-4 years to a reliever.
Totally agree with that, but my guess is they'd cave on that for Blevins on a reasonable deal the same way they did with Bastardo last year. I think 2 years for Holland could be worth a roll of the dice but I understand not wanting to take that risk (not sure this would be his preferred situation anyway).
1. Amed Rosario, ss
2. Dominic Smith, 1b
3. Justin Dunn, rhp
4. Desmond Lindsay, of
5. Brandon Nimmo, of
6. Gavin Cecchini, 2b/ss
7. Robert Gsellman, rhp
8. Thomas Szapucki, lhp
9. Gabriel Ynoa, rhp
10. Tomas Nido, c
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According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, the "perception of outside executives" is that the Astros and Nationals are trying hardest on a Chris Sale trade.
Those execs place the Braves as the next-likeliest suitor. Getting the White Sox to trade Sale is going to take a bevy of young talent, but all three of these organizations are rich in that department. Sale, 27, posted a 3.34 ERA, 1.037 WHIP, and 233/45 K/BB ratio across 226 2/3 innings this past season for the Southsiders. He's on a team-friendly contract that carries options through 2019.
Source: Joel Sherman on TwitterDec 5 - 10:13 AM
Got me think about Trea Turner and what could have been...
Ironic the desire by some for a Young OF to move quickly through the system is what kept Turner from being a Met. So many massive holes a Turner type player would fill for this roster.
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Also heard the Mets could use their second level of prospects - such as Nimmo and Cecchini - to pursue bullpen help.
the Mets have done very little the past couple off-seasons that they said they were going to do.
wishful thinking?
I'd open the vault for Chapman and trade Bruce for bench bat/speed. Mets need speed.
And head into the season with a couple competitive spots, but otherwise pray for health.
Disagree in regard to the pen. They have said for years they don't believe in spending big on the pen and don't. Sandy came out and said they won't be giving years to MR's. That's a team philosophy not some bluff move.
the Mets have done very little the past couple off-seasons that they said they were going to do.
wishful thinking?
I'd open the vault for Chapman and trade Bruce for bench bat/speed. Mets need speed.
And head into the season with a couple competitive spots, but otherwise pray for health.
Disagree in regard to the pen. They have said for years they don't believe in spending big on the pen and don't. Sandy came out and said they won't be giving years to MR's. That's a team philosophy not some bluff move.
Well they haven't really needed to. Once they were legit contenders they had Mejia backed up by Familia.
When Mejia was suspended they had Familia and acquired Clippard, Reed, etc.
Last year they entered the season with Familia and Reed.
This year ??? on Familia, but still have Reed.
Probably thinnest back of the BP they have had since they could be considered legit contenders.
Just my opinion.
I consider Sandy a game player who uses the media. Not saying he's doing it here, just hoping he is, since IMO bullpen is potentially the biggest need.
Sandy came out and said they won't be doing it and agents Rubin has spoken to have said the Mets are looking at "lower tier" options. They didn't even speak to the top 3 closers and are not expected to bid on Greg Holland. They won't even get a Ziegler type on a 1 year deal. 1 year relievers are garbage or damaged goods. It's buy lows on guys like reduced velocity Drew Storen. COULD a guy like that work out? Sure. But odds are not in your favor.
Publicly, the team has been very upfront. Trying to trade Bruce, might have to trade Grandy or even Conforto if that's where the value is.
Publicly made it very clear they want to add BP arms. Prefer a lefty. Know it will have to be in a trade. And FA market will provide depth. It's all out there for everyone to see every single thing has been kept EXTREMELY quiet, but design. But it is very rare for Sandy to say something publicly, and it's meant as a bluff. Very rare.
"One agent who has a fairly prominent reliever on the market says the Mets are "bottom feeding" with respect to bullpen help -- meaning looking for low-cost arms on one-year deals. That's fairly consistent with what Sandy Alderson said on Sunday night."
for Blevins and Torres. Mejia was penciled in as closer and Familia was the setup guy, then Mejia got suspended, and ultimately they acquired Clippard (and Reed).
I think Sandy actually believes in BP, he just thinks it's the most unstable performance wise year to year and the easiest thing to acquire at the deadline. So he doesn't give out long term deals to FA. I think that's a fair position to take but the reality is if you want to do better than Fernando Salas you are going to have to spend more resources either via prospects or $. Chapman and Miller were critical to getting their teams to the WS this past year and look at what those 2 moves cost their teams. The time to find a back end reliever is now and I think Sandy knows that, he'd just prefer to find that guy via trade than FA.
in mind, odds are likely less than 50% Blevins returns and probably closer to 20% that whomever replaces him is as good as he was. I'm not saying losing Blevins is the end of the world but the pen needed help even before "losing" Blevins. They need quality arms, this isn't a loaded pen that just needs depth.
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Joaquin Benoits one-year deal with the Phillies will pay him $7.5 million, according to a source. That is what he made in 2016, too.
arms are fungible, but that's mostly middle relievers and long-men in the pen IMO.
back of the bullpen not so fungible IMO and my preference (which means nothing to Sandy) is for gas, and gas that can miss bats, not Bobby Parnell gas.
Maybe the Mets are confident that Familia will not be suspended. Though the scrutiny domestic violence gets (and should get) and the early reports of the Familia incident I'd be shocked if that's the case.
I just hate having to dig out of an April hole and the WC sucks, Mets should be building a team to compete for the division.
arms are fungible, but that's mostly middle relievers and long-men in the pen IMO.
back of the bullpen not so fungible IMO and my preference (which means nothing to Sandy) is for gas, and gas that can miss bats, not Bobby Parnell gas.
Maybe the Mets are confident that Familia will not be suspended. Though the scrutiny domestic violence gets (and should get) and the early reports of the Familia incident I'd be shocked if that's the case.
I just hate having to dig out of an April hole and the WC sucks, Mets should be building a team to compete for the division.
Familia almost 1000% is going to be suspended. His wife had visible marks on her face. The question is for how long.
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The Mets expect David Wright to begin baseball activities this month. He has no medical hurdles to clear before being eligible for that.
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arms are fungible, but that's mostly middle relievers and long-men in the pen IMO.
back of the bullpen not so fungible IMO and my preference (which means nothing to Sandy) is for gas, and gas that can miss bats, not Bobby Parnell gas.
Maybe the Mets are confident that Familia will not be suspended. Though the scrutiny domestic violence gets (and should get) and the early reports of the Familia incident I'd be shocked if that's the case.
I just hate having to dig out of an April hole and the WC sucks, Mets should be building a team to compete for the division.
Familia almost 1000% is going to be suspended. His wife had visible marks on her face. The question is for how long.
I believe that to be true too that was my point, so why wouldn't the Mets need significant back of the bullpen help?
Reed is the closer? Check out his track record as closer in AZ? Peripherals not nearly as good as in his 8th inning role. And if he does close who is the 8th inning guy? Robles? Smoker?
Familia has been used a ton the past few years, 20M per year for Chapman on a 4 year deal seems like a great investment. In the playoffs, if you have a fresh Reed to Familia to Chapman (or swap the last two if you want) it shortens the game to 6 innings.
with 4 of 5 starters coming off injury makes a lot of sense to protect the staff IMO.
is most certainly the closer while Familia is out. They pretty clearly also don't trust Robles despite his stuff (2 straight years basically relegated to a very minor role down the stretch). That's really my point. Suspension for Familia, lose Blevins (if they do), the pen just isn't very good on paper. Yeah it's possible someone steps up and impresses but I'd rather not be reliant on Zack Wheeler and Josh Smoker to be key pieces of the 2017 Mets bullpen.
If he makes the team he will backup at 2b/3b and maybe some OF/1b. He and Flores will likely serve similar roles.
All-time leader in BA in the minors. Not a good fielder which holds him back but he can hit. Reminds me a bit of ex-Met Jeff Keppinger
Gsellman or Lugo ?
Does Montero have value anymore?
Gsellman or Lugo ?
Does Montero have value anymore?
Sounds like Wheeler to the pen is more of a backup plan if they strike out on relievers vs. a real consideration. Sounds like Gsellman will be the #5 or they will open with 6. Lugo likely heads to AAA to start vs. sticking him in the pen as they don't have SP's depth in AAA should MLB arms get hurt. Montero is likely an ex-Met come opening day. His 40 man spot is tenuous.
Mets don't have traction on a trade of an outfielder at the moment. In their perfect world, would get bullpen help in return.
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Totally agree with that, but my guess is they'd cave on that for Blevins on a reasonable deal the same way they did with Bastardo last year. I think 2 years for Holland could be worth a roll of the dice but I understand not wanting to take that risk (not sure this would be his preferred situation anyway).
2. Dominic Smith, 1b
3. Justin Dunn, rhp
4. Desmond Lindsay, of
5. Brandon Nimmo, of
6. Gavin Cecchini, 2b/ss
7. Robert Gsellman, rhp
8. Thomas Szapucki, lhp
9. Gabriel Ynoa, rhp
10. Tomas Nido, c
Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/new-york-mets-top-10-prospects-2017/#TiIjKFfZrQSDi27O.99
Source confirms: Pearce to #BlueJays, two years, $12.5M. First reported: @Buster_ESPN.
Those execs place the Braves as the next-likeliest suitor. Getting the White Sox to trade Sale is going to take a bevy of young talent, but all three of these organizations are rich in that department. Sale, 27, posted a 3.34 ERA, 1.037 WHIP, and 233/45 K/BB ratio across 226 2/3 innings this past season for the Southsiders. He's on a team-friendly contract that carries options through 2019.
Source: Joel Sherman on TwitterDec 5 - 10:13 AM
Ironic the desire by some for a Young OF to move quickly through the system is what kept Turner from being a Met. So many massive holes a Turner type player would fill for this roster.
Mets finding more interest in granderson than Bruce. Mets seek relief in exchange. @AdamRubinESPN on it
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Also heard the Mets could use their second level of prospects - such as Nimmo and Cecchini - to pursue bullpen help.
Why does this surprise you? Sandy has always let it be known he doesn't believe in spending big, nor years, on RP.
Yet he has two very highly paid back end guys. Hmmmpppfff
wishful thinking?
I'd open the vault for Chapman and trade Bruce for bench bat/speed. Mets need speed.
And head into the season with a couple competitive spots, but otherwise pray for health.
wishful thinking?
I'd open the vault for Chapman and trade Bruce for bench bat/speed. Mets need speed.
And head into the season with a couple competitive spots, but otherwise pray for health.
Disagree in regard to the pen. They have said for years they don't believe in spending big on the pen and don't. Sandy came out and said they won't be giving years to MR's. That's a team philosophy not some bluff move.
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the Mets have done very little the past couple off-seasons that they said they were going to do.
wishful thinking?
I'd open the vault for Chapman and trade Bruce for bench bat/speed. Mets need speed.
And head into the season with a couple competitive spots, but otherwise pray for health.
Disagree in regard to the pen. They have said for years they don't believe in spending big on the pen and don't. Sandy came out and said they won't be giving years to MR's. That's a team philosophy not some bluff move.
Well they haven't really needed to. Once they were legit contenders they had Mejia backed up by Familia.
When Mejia was suspended they had Familia and acquired Clippard, Reed, etc.
Last year they entered the season with Familia and Reed.
This year ??? on Familia, but still have Reed.
Probably thinnest back of the BP they have had since they could be considered legit contenders.
Just my opinion.
I consider Sandy a game player who uses the media. Not saying he's doing it here, just hoping he is, since IMO bullpen is potentially the biggest need.
Publicly made it very clear they want to add BP arms. Prefer a lefty. Know it will have to be in a trade. And FA market will provide depth. It's all out there for everyone to see every single thing has been kept EXTREMELY quiet, but design. But it is very rare for Sandy to say something publicly, and it's meant as a bluff. Very rare.
I think Sandy actually believes in BP, he just thinks it's the most unstable performance wise year to year and the easiest thing to acquire at the deadline. So he doesn't give out long term deals to FA. I think that's a fair position to take but the reality is if you want to do better than Fernando Salas you are going to have to spend more resources either via prospects or $. Chapman and Miller were critical to getting their teams to the WS this past year and look at what those 2 moves cost their teams. The time to find a back end reliever is now and I think Sandy knows that, he'd just prefer to find that guy via trade than FA.
Joaquin Benoits one-year deal with the Phillies will pay him $7.5 million, according to a source. That is what he made in 2016, too.
back of the bullpen not so fungible IMO and my preference (which means nothing to Sandy) is for gas, and gas that can miss bats, not Bobby Parnell gas.
Maybe the Mets are confident that Familia will not be suspended. Though the scrutiny domestic violence gets (and should get) and the early reports of the Familia incident I'd be shocked if that's the case.
I just hate having to dig out of an April hole and the WC sucks, Mets should be building a team to compete for the division.
back of the bullpen not so fungible IMO and my preference (which means nothing to Sandy) is for gas, and gas that can miss bats, not Bobby Parnell gas.
Maybe the Mets are confident that Familia will not be suspended. Though the scrutiny domestic violence gets (and should get) and the early reports of the Familia incident I'd be shocked if that's the case.
I just hate having to dig out of an April hole and the WC sucks, Mets should be building a team to compete for the division.
Familia almost 1000% is going to be suspended. His wife had visible marks on her face. The question is for how long.
The Mets expect David Wright to begin baseball activities this month. He has no medical hurdles to clear before being eligible for that.
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arms are fungible, but that's mostly middle relievers and long-men in the pen IMO.
back of the bullpen not so fungible IMO and my preference (which means nothing to Sandy) is for gas, and gas that can miss bats, not Bobby Parnell gas.
Maybe the Mets are confident that Familia will not be suspended. Though the scrutiny domestic violence gets (and should get) and the early reports of the Familia incident I'd be shocked if that's the case.
I just hate having to dig out of an April hole and the WC sucks, Mets should be building a team to compete for the division.
Familia almost 1000% is going to be suspended. His wife had visible marks on her face. The question is for how long.
I believe that to be true too that was my point, so why wouldn't the Mets need significant back of the bullpen help?
Reed is the closer? Check out his track record as closer in AZ? Peripherals not nearly as good as in his 8th inning role. And if he does close who is the 8th inning guy? Robles? Smoker?
Familia has been used a ton the past few years, 20M per year for Chapman on a 4 year deal seems like a great investment. In the playoffs, if you have a fresh Reed to Familia to Chapman (or swap the last two if you want) it shortens the game to 6 innings.
with 4 of 5 starters coming off injury makes a lot of sense to protect the staff IMO.