Fat Mike can't make it any more personal with Beckham. Utterly ridiculous at this point. Stirring up the idiot callers. Somehow the whole synopsis of the game is Beckham is a cancer and his issues with the refs. All this despite a horribly officiated game, a game in which Eli manning we were told by the beat writers was "furious" with the refs as well and had to talk to them several times. Of course no mention of that and the fact that they had legitimate gripes. Or that the fact that the Giants sucked yesterday as an O line unit. "Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved". Seriously? That flies in stark contrast to everything we have ever seen or heard from both Beckham and his teammates. How many of us could keep our composure from forearms to the throat after a tackle? So sick of this narrative.
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
Not every player is going to go out there and be an emotionless mute.
Don't get me wrong, OBJ is an attention whore and in different ways, a "me" guy. But he's always seemed like a sincere team player and I truly think he'd be happier with zero catches and a win than 8 catches and a loss.
Mike can't stand him, never could. Alot of people can't. But Mike dislikes him for the wrong reasons, as do alot of people on BBI.
The media makes him the story, then they complain about how he's the story.
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
was he? or was he laughing at a friends celebration?
god forbid players have friends off the field of oppoaing teams..
ewing used to get ripped by the media for having dinner with mourning nights before games..
Lol bingo as soon as I heard that I turned it off.
hanging out the night before is hardly a new thing in sports...
ewing did it all the time with mourning...
This
So if the choice is complaining about Odell (certain to get calls) or Eli throwing a horrendous pick, he's going to choose the guy who DOESN'T do a weekly show with him.
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
Sorry but I couldn't disagree more. I don't think he was pumped or smiling because AB scored. I think it was at his celebration/dance he got a kick out of or even a bit of a nervous energy type of thing. Like ok, you got one now it's my turn.
There's no way I think he was actually happy AB scored.
this is why i have not listened to a second of sports radio today, and will only listen to eli at 505 and then turn it off
It took him a month to get over the fact that he hit himself in the head with a kicking net and looked like a complete fool. The entire love story with the net that followed after was overcompensation for his embarrassment.
I'm glad he got a real kick out of Antonio Brown's TD yesterday. That sure was fun along playing stupid football giving up positive yardage and screaming after every incompletion his way.
When Odell Beckham is out of control, the Giants lose. So far we have Carolina last year (and Minnesota due to the fallout), Washington, Minnesota and Pittsburgh this year.
The guy is a great player, no one can take that away from him, but give me a guy like Larry Fitzgerald any day of the week.
It took him a month to get over the fact that he hit himself in the head with a kicking net and looked like a complete fool. The entire love story with the net that followed after was overcompensation for his embarrassment.
I'm glad he got a real kick out of Antonio Brown's TD yesterday. That sure was fun along playing stupid football giving up positive yardage and screaming after every incompletion his way.
When Odell Beckham is out of control, the Giants lose. So far we have Carolina last year (and Minnesota due to the fallout), Washington, Minnesota and Pittsburgh this year.
The guy is a great player, no one can take that away from him, but give me a guy like Larry Fitzgerald any day of the week.
he was out of control yesterday?
news to me
Why can't Francessa talk about something useful, like the problems with Flowers or the Giants' inability to run the ball?
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
was he? or was he laughing at a friends celebration?
god forbid players have friends off the field of oppoaing teams..
ewing used to get ripped by the media for having dinner with mourning nights before games..
Cool. Was Ewing laughing on the bench when Mourning dunked on Oakley? I bet not....
Bashed the OL
Don't say anything about the golden boy though.
There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!
Why does his reaction have to mean "Awesome! I love that my buddy scored! I don't care about winning or losing.. that was a great catch!"
He's talked about this before. Going against elite WR's. They asked him about going against AJ when we played CIN and his response was basically that whenever he sees one of those guys make a big play, he feels like he has to 1-up them and do one better.
It was pretty obvious to me that he saw AB's catch and his reaction was "wow.. I gotta find a way to out-do THAT"..
No one on this board has ever smiled in disbelief when they've had a "wow" moment before?
Good lord. Every single thing.. the guy breathes wrong and it turns into WWIII.
There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!
if you were on the field and you went to the official and asked for an explanation and the official told you to get out of his face, you would not be pissed off?
if everytime you went up for a pass and you were held with no call you wouldnt be just a little bit annoyed
Bashed the OL
Don't say anything about the golden boy though.
Yes the 2 minute discussion about other things. Wonder how anybody missed that over the other 50 mins of beckham bashing.
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
was he? or was he laughing at a friends celebration?
god forbid players have friends off the field of oppoaing teams..
ewing used to get ripped by the media for having dinner with mourning nights before games..
Cool. Was Ewing laughing on the bench when Mourning dunked on Oakley? I bet not....
give me a fucking break, they play a game! dear lord god forbid he smiles at a friends dance, if you think he was happy he scored then i dont know what to tell you...
they hung out the night before and brown probably told him what he was going to do if he scored, beckham watched and laughed and moved on, big deal
Don't get me wrong, OBJ is an attention whore and in different ways, a "me" guy. But he's always seemed like a sincere team player and I truly think he'd be happier with zero catches and a win than 8 catches and a loss.
Mike can't stand him, never could. Alot of people can't. But Mike dislikes him for the wrong reasons, as do alot of people on BBI.
Sorry guys, Francesa is right. OBJ had 10 for 100 yesterday and seemed oddly okay with a loss. And why? Because his stats were better than Brown's. If they won by 40 and he did nothing he would be mad. Yesterday was the tipping point. He's a cancer and a loser.
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I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!
There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!
if you were on the field and you went to the official and asked for an explanation and the official told you to get out of his face, you would not be pissed off?
if everytime you went up for a pass and you were held with no call you wouldnt be just a little bit annoyed
Nobody knows what Beckham said to the ref. Stop acting like you do.
There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!
was he out of control when he was on the ground and mitchell came in and hit him late and he tried to push him off of him?
oh thats right aikman said beckham is losing it, so of course it is beckhams fault, nevermind the cheap shot
Why does his reaction have to mean "Awesome! I love that my buddy scored! I don't care about winning or losing.. that was a great catch!"
He's talked about this before. Going against elite WR's. They asked him about going against AJ when we played CIN and his response was basically that whenever he sees one of those guys make a big play, he feels like he has to 1-up them and do one better.
It was pretty obvious to me that he saw AB's catch and his reaction was "wow.. I gotta find a way to out-do THAT"..
No one on this board has ever smiled in disbelief when they've had a "wow" moment before?
Good lord. Every single thing.. the guy breathes wrong and it turns into WWIII.
Change the name of this blog to OBJInteractive. All you people do is make excuses for Jeremy Shockey 2.0.
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I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!
There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!
if you were on the field and you went to the official and asked for an explanation and the official told you to get out of his face, you would not be pissed off?
if everytime you went up for a pass and you were held with no call you wouldnt be just a little bit annoyed
Nobody knows what Beckham said to the ref. Stop acting like you do.
i am going by what beckham said and that is all we have to go on...
i do know he wnet to one official for an explanation and he said go talk to someone else, it was clear as day on camer, and buck even said it on the browdcast...
Sorry guys, Francesa is right. OBJ had 10 for 100 yesterday and seemed oddly okay with a loss. And why? Because his stats were better than Brown's. If they won by 40 and he did nothing he would be mad. Yesterday was the tipping point. He's a cancer and a loser.
What on GOD'S green earth are you talking about? How was he "okay" with the loss? What is your proof of this? I watched the post-game interview and I have no clue what you're talking about.
But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.
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Bashed the OL
Don't say anything about the golden boy though.
Yes the 2 minute discussion about other things. Wonder how anybody missed that over the other 50 mins of beckham bashing.
Oh no, defend Beckham, he's the greatest!!!!!
Toughen up people. Take the praise with the bash and everything in between.
Does anyone think Eli wants to be following Beckham around on the sidelines trying to get him to act like an adult, or maybe the QB has more important things he can be doing?
If being Antonio Brown's #1 fanboy DURING a huge road game doesnt bother you, maybe the several examples of dumb football not getting up field and more whining to the refs, that's a great way to start getting calls!
This isnt just about yesterday, although its the latest example of his stupidity. To this point, the Washington game is the biggest letdown of the season and the main reason we will now be in a dogfight down the stretch and he was in full meltdown mode that day.
Time to act like a pro.
But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.
I think Frankie in Flushing is probably one of those callers. I think Mike has planted callers just to further the discussion and I wouldnt be surprised if he had some of his workers on here posting shit too. We do know he gets his news from BBI as one of his sawces
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Anyone that thinks Beckham is the type of "me" guy that would be upset he wasn't involved despite winning by 40, is just lazy and not paying attention.
Don't get me wrong, OBJ is an attention whore and in different ways, a "me" guy. But he's always seemed like a sincere team player and I truly think he'd be happier with zero catches and a win than 8 catches and a loss.
Mike can't stand him, never could. Alot of people can't. But Mike dislikes him for the wrong reasons, as do alot of people on BBI.
Sorry guys, Francesa is right. OBJ had 10 for 100 yesterday and seemed oddly okay with a loss. And why? Because his stats were better than Brown's. If they won by 40 and he did nothing he would be mad. Yesterday was the tipping point. He's a cancer and a loser.
Odell caught 5 passes for 46 yards vs. the Bears when the Giants won their 5th in a row. I don't remember him bitching or sulking after that or complaining to the media. When one of the other receivers catches a TD, he's one of the first over to celebrate. He gets shit for crying on the bench vs. the Redskins because he's competitive and pissed. But he smirks when Brown makes an impressive TD, and now he's a cancer?
I'm crusty as a fan and it's taken me a bit to understand that the modern athlete is not the same as years before. Beckham and Brown hanging out the night before the game. Putting it on instagram. Those damn Millenials.
But Beckham is not the problem on this team. he gets ratings talk about since it's not as exciting to discuss a regression by the offensive line, and Flowers in particular. Or that the defense held up and Collins, who is having a great year, had a mental breakdown on the TD to make it 21-7. Fuck Odell, he was smiling when Brown scored, get him out of here.
funny no mention of that from the people ripping beckham
Does anyone think Eli wants to be following Beckham around on the sidelines trying to get him to act like an adult, or maybe the QB has more important things he can be doing?
If being Antonio Brown's #1 fanboy DURING a huge road game doesnt bother you, maybe the several examples of dumb football not getting up field and more whining to the refs, that's a great way to start getting calls!
This isnt just about yesterday, although its the latest example of his stupidity. To this point, the Washington game is the biggest letdown of the season and the main reason we will now be in a dogfight down the stretch and he was in full meltdown mode that day.
Time to act like a pro.
This is what happens when people go too far in the other direction... they start saying things that are just ridiculous.
- It's Odell's fault Will Tye didn't finish his route when Eli threw the pick versus Washington?
- It's Odell's fault Eli threw the game ending pick?
- It's Odell's fault Eli didn't see him streaking wide open down the side line?
- It's Odell's fault Weston Richburg/Andrew Adams picked up insane personal foul penalties?
Yesterday, the biggest plays in the game are Eli's pick, Flower's safety, and Leon Hall falling asleep in the end zone on Brown's TD. How is ANY of that related to Odell Beckham?
funny no mention of that from the people ripping beckham
The fact that Eli did that, and Eli doesn't make a peep on the field when shit is going on around him in his 13 year career, tells you that Odell was probably right.
funny no mention of that from the people ripping beckham
Yeah lol. - b/c Eli and OBJ have the same personality
Too bad OBJ didn't make that Awesome FG before the Philly game. Only those present saw that clown act
I don't know where you were going by listing everyone's mistakes. They all make them, the difference is very few act out like Beckham does when someone else makes one.
As for Eli complaining about calls, it isnt something I noticed during the game, if it happened, then I'm sure there were legitimate gripes to be had. If so, I'm sure they are better off coming from a seasoned veteran QB with 190+ consecutive games played without the reputation of acting like a punk.
But to say he doesn't ask for negative attention whether it be from media. refs, opponents...is foolish. He doesn't carry himself well on the field or the sideline. Sometimes it helps him, yes. The chip on his shoulder has helped him make plays. But you are blind homer if you say it hasn't hurt his performance as well.
Beckham was getting held all game, yup. Know who else did yesterday? Larry Fitzgerald. Doug Baldwin. Amari Cooper....and thats only the games I've seen so far. They talk to the refs, wave their hands up here and there. But Beckham's is an attention-starving scene.
ODB is not a bad dude my any accounts from what I know. But he is some diva in him. It hurts more than helps in situations like this.
In my humble opinion...and it is just that...ODB is a very "Me" player. I'm not saying trade him or cut him...as a matter of fact I think NYG should lock him up this offseason before he gets stupid expensive. But man...he is very much about himself and he has not yet figured out how to transfer frustration in to game-making ability. Instead it almost seems like it makes him worse. That needs to change.
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Sub-moronic.
But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.
I think Frankie in Flushing is probably one of those callers. I think Mike has planted callers just to further the discussion and I wouldnt be surprised if he had some of his workers on here posting shit too. We do know he gets his news from BBI as one of his sawces
Yes, yes, I secretly work for Francesa because I think OBJ has reached locker room cancer proportions. Jeez. Can't have a negative opinion about a bi-polar receiver with "me" issues.
It never ends.
You think this offense is struggling now? We would probably have the worst offense in football without him.
But hey, at least that "cancer" would be gone.
It never ends.
You think this offense is struggling now? We would probably have the worst offense in football without him.
But hey, at least that "cancer" would be gone.
I'm over it. I'm over it so much I think the Giants should release him. And I'm not the one crying and cursing.
You have zero credibility when you make comments like that because they're completely moronic. No other way to describe it.
The Giants are not releasing Beckham, the Giants will not release Beckham. It's not even within the same universe of anything realistic.
So, if that's your solution here, you should probably figure out that there's a 0% chance of it happening and move on and find another way to deal with watching the most talented WR that has ever worn this uniform.
It never ends.
You think this offense is struggling now? We would probably have the worst offense in football without him.
But hey, at least that "cancer" would be gone.
Nah our offense would be awesome because Stafford is amazing now without Calvin Johnson. Im sure Calvin is looked at as a cancer now for making Stafford force the ball to the best player on the team
You have zero credibility when you make comments like that because they're completely moronic. No other way to describe it.
The Giants are not releasing Beckham, the Giants will not release Beckham. It's not even within the same universe of anything realistic.
So, if that's your solution here, you should probably figure out that there's a 0% chance of it happening and move on and find another way to deal with watching the most talented WR that has ever worn this uniform.
Okay. Then they should trade him and get something for him.
You have zero credibility when you make comments like that because they're completely moronic. No other way to describe it.
The Giants are not releasing Beckham, the Giants will not release Beckham. It's not even within the same universe of anything realistic.
So, if that's your solution here, you should probably figure out that there's a 0% chance of it happening and move on and find another way to deal with watching the most talented WR that has ever worn this uniform.
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Sub-moronic.
But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.
I think Frankie in Flushing is probably one of those callers. I think Mike has planted callers just to further the discussion and I wouldnt be surprised if he had some of his workers on here posting shit too. We do know he gets his news from BBI as one of his sawces
Yes, yes, I secretly work for Francesa because I think OBJ has reached locker room cancer proportions. Jeez. Can't have a negative opinion about a bi-polar receiver with "me" issues.
Nope I put you in with the moronic over the top callers that were brought up. I mean you just said to release him? Thats about as fucking moronic as it gets
Michael Strahan is beloved here and everywhere by Giants, and rightly so. He had an interesting take on the pregame about how Beckham spending the night before a game with Antonio Brown was a little bit over the top. You don't have to go back 30 years to find that point of view.
immediately pans to OBJ who is smiling they will stoop
at nothing to make him look bad .
o I like him doing that no not at all but rather than focus
on the game or the play break it down . Hell no we will
have none of that . We will let Buck the Fuck make his
cynical little comments and at the end of the game .
Put his dirty foot on top of the Giants about there glowing
playoff hope going down the tubes because they are playing
tougher teams .. And chuckles at the prospect of Dallas
coming to town to make a statement ....
Michael Strahan is beloved here and everywhere by Giants, and rightly so. He had an interesting take on the pregame about how Beckham spending the night before a game with Antonio Brown was a little bit over the top. You don't have to go back 30 years to find that point of view.
The Cowboy love on this site is truly bizarre.
yeah i defend beckham, i am also such a diehard fan that when i have player up against the giants i bench him and put someone else in because i dont want to have to root for someone against the giantz...
i dont draft eagles, redskins or cowboys players...
last year in the semifinals i benched cam newton when the panthers played the giants..
dont be calling me a fake fan
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Sub-moronic.
But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.
I think Frankie in Flushing is probably one of those callers. I think Mike has planted callers just to further the discussion and I wouldnt be surprised if he had some of his workers on here posting shit too. We do know he gets his news from BBI as one of his sawces
Yes, yes, I secretly work for Francesa because I think OBJ has reached locker room cancer proportions. Jeez. Can't have a negative opinion about a bi-polar receiver with "me" issues.
Nope I put you in with the moronic over the top callers that were brought up. I mean you just said to release him? Thats about as fucking moronic as it gets
You want to keep him and keep up this Decade of Darkness. Yeah, I'm the moron. He's is a flash in the pan distraction. Get over your crush.
Post of the day.
There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!
Outside of a few stupid penalties he actually is. Go check out what he does off the field too, but hey, don't let facts get in the way.
There is also no way those defending Beckham are sure his childish grin after the AB touchdown was of the "damn, now I have to one up him" variety any more than it was downright happy he scored a TD.
There is also no way those defending Beckham are sure his childish grin after the AB touchdown was of the "damn, now I have to one up him" variety any more than it was downright happy he scored a TD.
Beckham also played catch with Dez during warmups in week 1, what's the difference?
These guys aren't going to war, they are playing a game. The sooner idiot fans realize that the better of places like BBI will be (never).
There is also no way those defending Beckham are sure his childish grin after the AB touchdown was of the "damn, now I have to one up him" variety any more than it was downright happy he scored a TD.
got it i am a fake fan, thanks
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to describe how a Giants fan wouldnt be bothered by his man crush of Antonio Brown last night and following it up with another uneven performance and more childish behavior.
There is also no way those defending Beckham are sure his childish grin after the AB touchdown was of the "damn, now I have to one up him" variety any more than it was downright happy he scored a TD.
Beckham also played catch with Dez during warmups in week 1, what's the difference?
These guys aren't going to war, they are playing a game. The sooner idiot fans realize that the better of places like BBI will be (never).
fans on this site are loke fans of old wwf, that guy cant be friends with thay guy, one guy is a bad guy the other is a good guy, what is going on! they cant be friends, blaspheme..
It's not just me, go back to yesterday's pregame, Strahan pretty much said the same thing.
It's not just me, go back to yesterday's pregame, Strahan pretty much said the same thing.
strahan would laugh and shake hands after the game, win or lose, what is the difference?
what is the differencr between laughijg at an end zone celebration and laughing and smiling after a loss with the other team?
You want to keep him and keep up this Decade of Darkness. Yeah, I'm the moron. He's is a flash in the pan distraction. Get over your crush.
"A flash in the pan distraction", "Decade of Darkness"... now I'm almost certain you're just trolling.
It's not just me, go back to yesterday's pregame, Strahan pretty much said the same thing.
Strahan didn't criticize it, he just said he's wired differently.
It's not just me, go back to yesterday's pregame, Strahan pretty much said the same thing.
Its called an opinion. Strahan has one and I'm sure that worked for him throughout his career. It doesn't mean anything other than that.
If you don't like his relationship with other players in the NFL, that's fine. But don't act like its some rule of the game. These athletes are working in the entertainment industry, not sure if you knew that. They are going to be friends with opposing players.
Do you hate Von Miller for buying AFC West opponents wine? Von Miller is one of the most well liked guys in the league and is probably on friendly terms with many opposing start players.
I really don't know what to tell you.
all players fratenize with opposing players, you just dont know about it because it was not on twitter...
I mean - comparing Ewing/Oakley to this lot? Come on. Even Shockey - he wasn't in the same universe talent-wise compared to Beckham.
And I thought it was pretty evident from the jump that Beckham was being targeted by the officials. And it wasn't subtle. Mitchell is allowed to give a forearm shiver to his throat after the tackle is made and Beckham is on the ground? From that point on I knew he was in for a bad night with the zebras.
However, he just cannot seem to control himself. After EVERY SINGLE PLAY he throws up his hands looking for a flag. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. These old, white curmudgeons wearing black and white stripes are not going to put up with that and will retaliate in their own way.
I'm not excusing it, it gets tiresome, but Beckham is one of many who does this and a lot of them are star players (Brady, Rodgers, Dez, Sherman, the list goes on and on). The only difference is Beckham isn't getting these calls like most of the other star players.
The Giants will finish 9 - 7 and miss the playoffs. But don't worry. Eli will be forced to throw to OBJ 627 times so that he gets to 1,500 yards and can dance more. Yaaaay for dancing.
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I'm not making any comparisons to war.
It's not just me, go back to yesterday's pregame, Strahan pretty much said the same thing.
Strahan didn't criticize it, he just said he's wired differently.
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You want to keep him and keep up this Decade of Darkness. Yeah, I'm the moron. He's is a flash in the pan distraction. Get over your crush.
Please oh please give me ten decades of darkness like the last ten years. With only two championships in the decade to keep me warm.
Idiot statement.
Plus Beckham is in his 3rd year. Not sure how he caused a decade of darkness if there even was one.
guess he doesnt knkw what he is looking at either
I mean - comparing Ewing/Oakley to this lot? Come on. Even Shockey - he wasn't in the same universe talent-wise compared to Beckham.
And I thought it was pretty evident from the jump that Beckham was being targeted by the officials. And it wasn't subtle. Mitchell is allowed to give a forearm shiver to his throat after the tackle is made and Beckham is on the ground? From that point on I knew he was in for a bad night with the zebras.
However, he just cannot seem to control himself. After EVERY SINGLE PLAY he throws up his hands looking for a flag. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. These old, white curmudgeons wearing black and white stripes are not going to put up with that and will retaliate in their own way.
My thoughts exactly, top to bottom. Beckham is not endearing himself to the officials and I'm not sure he ever will. It's in his and the team's best interest to just hustle back to the huddle after the play.
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with Beckham smiling at Brown's celebration. Maybe it was something they talked about the night before. And maybe OBJ had a dance prearranged as well. Maybe they had a little wager between the two of them. Today's athlete is so vastly different from those of 20-30 years ago that I see being brought up.
I mean - comparing Ewing/Oakley to this lot? Come on. Even Shockey - he wasn't in the same universe talent-wise compared to Beckham.
And I thought it was pretty evident from the jump that Beckham was being targeted by the officials. And it wasn't subtle. Mitchell is allowed to give a forearm shiver to his throat after the tackle is made and Beckham is on the ground? From that point on I knew he was in for a bad night with the zebras.
However, he just cannot seem to control himself. After EVERY SINGLE PLAY he throws up his hands looking for a flag. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. These old, white curmudgeons wearing black and white stripes are not going to put up with that and will retaliate in their own way.
My thoughts exactly, top to bottom. Beckham is not endearing himself to the officials and I'm not sure he ever will. It's in his and the team's best interest to just hustle back to the huddle after the play.
This happens all the time. Did you not see the Pittsburgh defense run at the officials after the Tye flag? They were upset and showing it. You never saw a WR looking at an official with open arms?
Plus, officials are supposed to be fair regardless of previous experiences. Part of their job.
And Mike's need to constantly remind the audience he doesn't like Shockey is pathetic.
the only point i disagree with is his take that the over reliance on OBJ goes to his head. frankly he should have been targeted more in the first half and it's a mistake to believe our other weapons can impact the game as much as OBJ. they can't and they don't.
when the opposing good defense can cover our guys, double OBJ, and we still can't run the ball or get it to the TE - we have a problem. and that's exactly what the Steelers did yesterday. dared us to run the ball and we really couldn't save a couple.
He's clearly forcing some type of anti Odell agenda for calls or whatever his crazy reason is.
Do you think that there isn't at least a thought in Cruz and others minds that Beckham's whining and screaming is the reason that nobody else saw the ball in the 2nd half? This is Shockey all over again. How many times do we see Bobby Hart have to drag him away from trouble? Do you see any of this shit from Antonio Brown, aside from his TD dance that Odell so admired? NO.
Beckham had 1 legit gripe in that game: the late hit. Everything else was him acting like a spoiled child.
guess he doesnt knkw what he is looking at either
except.... McAdoo is right! cam did the same thing when beckham scored to tie the game last year.
Do you think that there isn't at least a thought in Cruz and others minds that Beckham's whining and screaming is the reason that nobody else saw the ball in the 2nd half? This is Shockey all over again. How many times do we see Bobby Hart have to drag him away from trouble? Do you see any of this shit from Antonio Brown, aside from his TD dance that Odell so admired? NO.
Beckham had 1 legit gripe in that game: the late hit. Everything else was him acting like a spoiled child.
I don't like the constant complaining either but I think he had at least three more legit gripes.
1) he was being held/grabbed all the way down the sideline but he gets called for OPI when he fights the guys hands off of him. How many times do we ever see OPI called for that? We usually only see it on an obvious push off/arm extending type play.
2) his hand was definitely held on the one pass into the end zone
3) he was also hit early and clearly grabbed around the waist and turned on another pass over the middle.
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complaining after every play. You don't help your team by firing a ball at the opponents bench risking a PF flag. At least McAdoo addressed that.
Do you think that there isn't at least a thought in Cruz and others minds that Beckham's whining and screaming is the reason that nobody else saw the ball in the 2nd half? This is Shockey all over again. How many times do we see Bobby Hart have to drag him away from trouble? Do you see any of this shit from Antonio Brown, aside from his TD dance that Odell so admired? NO.
Beckham had 1 legit gripe in that game: the late hit. Everything else was him acting like a spoiled child.
I don't like the constant complaining either but I think he had at least three more legit gripes.
1) he was being held/grabbed all the way down the sideline but he gets called for OPI when he fights the guys hands off of him. How many times do we ever see OPI called for that? We usually only see it on an obvious push off/arm extending type play.
2) his hand was definitely held on the one pass into the end zone
3) he was also hit early and clearly grabbed around the waist and turned on another pass over the middle.
don't forget the forearm to the throat following being tackled...
Do you think that there isn't at least a thought in Cruz and others minds that Beckham's whining and screaming is the reason that nobody else saw the ball in the 2nd half? This is Shockey all over again. How many times do we see Bobby Hart have to drag him away from trouble? Do you see any of this shit from Antonio Brown, aside from his TD dance that Odell so admired? NO.
Beckham had 1 legit gripe in that game: the late hit. Everything else was him acting like a spoiled child.
This year Antonio Brown has been penalized and fined twice for "sexually suggestive" behavior on the field. So, yeah, I have seen AB do stupid shit.
OBJ is a freak WR, the best the Giants have had in their history and he isn't done yet. He is much smarter than you give him credit for. He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor.
Refs are not going to give him much help after last year which is a shame. The refs have a job to do and that officiate evenly and fairly and they can't seem to get past the Carolina game. This is just another example of how piss poor the officiating is getting in the NFL. Part time, old officials for a professional sport which by design is to make games closer and teams more even by adhering to a salary cap. These games are coming down to one or 2 plays and the refs are having way to much influence on the outcome of these games.
Finally, Fat Mike is a blow hard. I can't stand how smug he is in all of this. He loves to hear himself talk as if he is the all knowing king of sports radio. I hope Eli cancels on him after this interview at 5pm.
OBJ is a freak WR, the best the Giants have had in their history and he isn't done yet. He is much smarter than you give him credit for. He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor.
Refs are not going to give him much help after last year which is a shame. The refs have a job to do and that officiate evenly and fairly and they can't seem to get past the Carolina game. This is just another example of how piss poor the officiating is getting in the NFL. Part time, old officials for a professional sport which by design is to make games closer and teams more even by adhering to a salary cap. These games are coming down to one or 2 plays and the refs are having way to much influence on the outcome of these games.
Finally, Fat Mike is a blow hard. I can't stand how smug he is in all of this. He loves to hear himself talk as if he is the all knowing king of sports radio. I hope Eli cancels on him after this interview at 5pm.
"He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor." Ah yes, the LT comparisons. Makes sense since LT was so cheery when his friends Reggie White and Chris Doleman would sack Phil Simms. I remember the time he smiled after Simms was peeled off the turf after getting sacked by Dexter Manley. When questioned after the game, LT said, "I love watching him play. I love watching him celebrate. I love seeing him just smile, have fun."
LT then whipped and nae nae'd.
Eli threw 39 times for 195 yards..
OBJ was targeted 16 times and produced 100 yards..
rest of the team were targeted 23 times and produced 95 yards between them..
OBJ >> Rest of our receivers combined
that is inspite of the fact that OBJ cannot threaten the teams deep anymore since the OL won't hold up and we have no running game or TE's that scare LBs.. So realistically the only reason we didn't look like a college team playing offense in the NFL was because of him.. Fat Mike and all the haters have no real evidence of anything else .. so they call him immature.. Lets get some real LT, a QB that plays to his past levels, a competent TE or RB in here.. Don't blame the loss on OBJ yesterday..
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My take: for those of you wanting to get rid of OBJ, you are ridiculous. Go be a Cowboys fan please!
OBJ is a freak WR, the best the Giants have had in their history and he isn't done yet. He is much smarter than you give him credit for. He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor.
Refs are not going to give him much help after last year which is a shame. The refs have a job to do and that officiate evenly and fairly and they can't seem to get past the Carolina game. This is just another example of how piss poor the officiating is getting in the NFL. Part time, old officials for a professional sport which by design is to make games closer and teams more even by adhering to a salary cap. These games are coming down to one or 2 plays and the refs are having way to much influence on the outcome of these games.
Finally, Fat Mike is a blow hard. I can't stand how smug he is in all of this. He loves to hear himself talk as if he is the all knowing king of sports radio. I hope Eli cancels on him after this interview at 5pm.
"He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor." Ah yes, the LT comparisons. Makes sense since LT was so cheery when his friends Reggie White and Chris Doleman would sack Phil Simms. I remember the time he smiled after Simms was peeled off the turf after getting sacked by Dexter Manley. When questioned after the game, LT said, "I love watching him play. I love watching him celebrate. I love seeing him just smile, have fun."
LT then whipped and nae nae'd.
Frankie, go be a Dez Bryant loving, Zek Elliott, Dak Prescott Cowgirl Fan. You will fit right in.
Let's just take our best player, easily one of the better players in the league, off our team & everything will come together.
OBJ is a freak WR, the best the Giants have had in their history and he isn't done yet. He is much smarter than you give him credit for. He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor.
Refs are not going to give him much help after last year which is a shame. The refs have a job to do and that officiate evenly and fairly and they can't seem to get past the Carolina game. This is just another example of how piss poor the officiating is getting in the NFL. Part time, old officials for a professional sport which by design is to make games closer and teams more even by adhering to a salary cap. These games are coming down to one or 2 plays and the refs are having way to much influence on the outcome of these games.
Finally, Fat Mike is a blow hard. I can't stand how smug he is in all of this. He loves to hear himself talk as if he is the all knowing king of sports radio. I hope Eli cancels on him after this interview at 5pm.
You scare me
How fucking stupid. There is no argument for that. It's idiotic, and you should all feel bad for posting something so fucking atrociously and bizarrely retarded.
in this case i am not listenkng to anything when it comes to giants, as soon as the host starts talking giants i am turning it off...
all it is going to be is about how the cowboys are going to murder the giants, i actually hope the giants players watch, because they are going to get zero respect going into this game
You don't have to wonder with fucksticks like this:
By the way - the people pissed he was yukking it up over Brown - were they also pissed when he played catch with Dez before the Cowboys game?
Or how does that work? Since we won, it is OK, but Cowboy fans should be pissed at Dez and want him released?
What are the rules regarding complete and moronic overreactions?
You don't have to wonder with fucksticks like this:
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I'm over it. I'm over it so much I think the Giants should release him. And I'm not the one crying and cursing.
By the way - the people pissed he was yukking it up over Brown - were they also pissed when he played catch with Dez before the Cowboys game?
Or how does that work? Since we won, it is OK, but Cowboy fans should be pissed at Dez and want him released?
What are the rules regarding complete and moronic overreactions?
Yes.
Makes it easy to know what kind of idiocy I'll expect to see in the future.
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved
Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
Sorry but I couldn't disagree more. I don't think he was pumped or smiling because AB scored. I think it was at his celebration/dance he got a kick out of or even a bit of a nervous energy type of thing. Like ok, you got one now it's my turn.
There's no way I think he was actually happy AB scored.
You're a complete fucking idiot if you really believe that....
OBJ is a freak WR, the best the Giants have had in their history and he isn't done yet. He is much smarter than you give him credit for. He is a tough SOB who plays with an intensity we have not seen since Lawrence Taylor.
Refs are not going to give him much help after last year which is a shame. The refs have a job to do and that officiate evenly and fairly and they can't seem to get past the Carolina game. This is just another example of how piss poor the officiating is getting in the NFL. Part time, old officials for a professional sport which by design is to make games closer and teams more even by adhering to a salary cap. These games are coming down to one or 2 plays and the refs are having way to much influence on the outcome of these games.
Finally, Fat Mike is a blow hard. I can't stand how smug he is in all of this. He loves to hear himself talk as if he is the all knowing king of sports radio. I hope Eli cancels on him after this interview at 5pm.
I don't remember Lawrence Taylor crying like a bitch on the sidelines.... Or celebrating when the opposing team scores.
Your point?
Your point?
My point is your a fucking idiot if you think there's anything similar between LT and this whiny little cunt... LT went out and single-handedly won games... He took his frustrations out on QB's, he didn't go crying to the refs and the media.
Francesa is 100% right.
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do coke before games, go on lengthy benders and have sex with 16 year olds.
Your point?
My point is your a fucking idiot if you think there's anything similar between LT and this whiny little cunt... LT went out and single-handedly won games... He took his frustrations out on QB's, he didn't go crying to the refs and the media.
Francesa is 100% right.
Com'on people. Some don't even consider him the best WR in the league whereas Taylor was far and away the most disruptive force the league had seen. Nobody knew what to do.
Even though some people can't get past the image of Beckham making a jackass of himself against the Panthers in the blessed Giants uniform, what strikes me is how many Giants fans didn't defend him because he's loud. This young kid had never even had a bad word written about his work ethic nor his effort nor his teammates liking him. Suddenly he was a me first player because a loudmouth who couldn't compete on the field had to find a way to take him off his game. From that point forward you look at it from his perspective and its been a consistent attempt to make him a lazy, selfish, me first "typical" athlete.
Meanwhile all he does is work his ass off, teammates can't answer the question enough times: "is he a problem???" "No we love Odell and he works as hard as anyone". But no the media can't tolerate that. I posted an example the other day and it summed it up. Brown was shut down by our d, had 6 catches for 55 yards and a td where i think he was out of bounds but ok. Odell was triple teamed and interfered with 10 times but had 10 catches on 16 targets and 100 yards.
What did the media focus on? Anyone think he was clapping and smiling because he was laughing at how Brown was shut down but got a TD and he was all over the field but couldn't get a flag, nor a td? Did anyone discuss his more productive day while ELi had no RB rushing 29 times, no TE catching 130 yards worth. People saying he shouldnt complain for flags? Seriously? WHat WR does;t ask for flags? What star WR gets called for offensive PI on one on one coverage when hes being held up the field? This unstoppable pass-catching machine needs to foul a CB instead of just beating him for a ball? This WR who had 10 catches and could have had 15 got how many calls?
The personal agenda shit is a disgrace and it takes away from a WR who has done record breaking things. Because he has a wild haircut and because he is intense on the field? Something really messed up about it all.
And being that this was the same crew that did the Carolina game last year - you can bet there is bias there and they shouldn't be allowed to work another Giants game, plain and simple.
When you hold a player to a higher standard, it is almost always the "star player" standard where they get away with things. Beckham gets away with nothing and actually gets called for things he doesn't do.
It is absolutely absurd.
1 superstar player in my lifetime was held, literally and figuratively, to a higher standard: Lawrence Taylor. Held, mugged on EVERY play. IF they could get their hands on him that is.