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OBJ_AllDay : 12/5/2016 1:53 pm
Fat Mike can't make it any more personal with Beckham. Utterly ridiculous at this point. Stirring up the idiot callers. Somehow the whole synopsis of the game is Beckham is a cancer and his issues with the refs. All this despite a horribly officiated game, a game in which Eli manning we were told by the beat writers was "furious" with the refs as well and had to talk to them several times. Of course no mention of that and the fact that they had legitimate gripes. Or that the fact that the Giants sucked yesterday as an O line unit. "Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved". Seriously? That flies in stark contrast to everything we have ever seen or heard from both Beckham and his teammates. How many of us could keep our composure from forearms to the throat after a tackle? So sick of this narrative.
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this is (especially) ridiculous  
giants#1 : 12/5/2016 1:55 pm : link
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved


Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)
the guy can't relate  
UConn4523 : 12/5/2016 1:56 pm : link
to 20 year old rich guys who grew up this past decade. I love Francesa because he's absolutely hilarious, but I learned to not take him seriously when it comes to certain topics, this being one of them.

Not every player is going to go out there and be an emotionless mute.
Stirring up idiots  
JonC : 12/5/2016 1:57 pm : link
is how he earns a living, that's what sports talk is all about.
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Danny Kanell : 12/5/2016 1:59 pm : link
Anyone that thinks Beckham is the type of "me" guy that would be upset he wasn't involved despite winning by 40, is just lazy and not paying attention.

Don't get me wrong, OBJ is an attention whore and in different ways, a "me" guy. But he's always seemed like a sincere team player and I truly think he'd be happier with zero catches and a win than 8 catches and a loss.

Mike can't stand him, never could. Alot of people can't. But Mike dislikes him for the wrong reasons, as do alot of people on BBI.
I turned on SportsNite, the SNY clips show, last night  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2016 2:00 pm : link
and the first thing they talked about with a panel after the game highlights was Odell Beckham. Some bald guy went on a rant about how he's sick of Beckham. I started thinking, "Shouldn't he be pissed off at the producer of the show?" because there's no way on earth that the first topic about this game should be Odell Beckham. But I guess 5 minutes about Ereck Flowers wouldn't be sexy TV.

The media makes him the story, then they complain about how he's the story.
This will be a great week for Mike  
NoPeanutz : 12/5/2016 2:05 pm : link
his greatest pleasure is teasing front-runner Cowboy callers.
OBJ was wrong with what he did last year  
montanagiant : 12/5/2016 2:09 pm : link
What has occurred since then aginst him has bordered on the absurd level. The ownership, GM, coach should all be working the media at this point to get it to stop
Seriously  
Eman11 : 12/5/2016 2:11 pm : link
Mike actually thinking OBJ was smiling because he was happy AB scored a TD and making a big deal of it is all I needed to hear to make me turn it off.
RE: this is (especially) ridiculous  
Sy'56 : 12/5/2016 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13250306 giants#1 said:
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved



Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)


He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.
Beckham  
KWhite2250 : 12/5/2016 2:15 pm : link
Clearly refused to go on Mikes show so it becomes personal for Fattie. Im sure that nobody ever smiled on the opposing sideline at a celebration before. The problem is Fox and the rest of the media are forcing Beckham down our throats during the game. The 2 idiots in the morning and mike have a problem with Beckham hanging out the night before. If afox doesnt show it, then Mike never even knows about it. Only the fans who follow people on instagram know and thats what they want to see anyway
RE: RE: this is (especially) ridiculous  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13250352 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 13250306 giants#1 said:


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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved



Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)



He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.


was he? or was he laughing at a friends celebration?

god forbid players have friends off the field of oppoaing teams..

ewing used to get ripped by the media for having dinner with mourning nights before games..
RE: Seriously  
terz22 : 12/5/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13250345 Eman11 said:
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Mike actually thinking OBJ was smiling because he was happy AB scored a TD and making a big deal of it is all I needed to hear to make me turn it off.


Lol bingo as soon as I heard that I turned it off.
RE: Beckham  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13250354 KWhite2250 said:
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Clearly refused to go on Mikes show so it becomes personal for Fattie. Im sure that nobody ever smiled on the opposing sideline at a celebration before. The problem is Fox and the rest of the media are forcing Beckham down our throats during the game. The 2 idiots in the morning and mike have a problem with Beckham hanging out the night before. If afox doesnt show it, then Mike never even knows about it. Only the fans who follow people on instagram know and thats what they want to see anyway


hanging out the night before is hardly a new thing in sports...

ewing did it all the time with mourning...

RE: Stirring up idiots  
David in LA : 12/5/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13250315 JonC said:
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is how he earns a living, that's what sports talk is all about.


This
Mike is transparent.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2016 2:18 pm : link
He's not going to get several hours worth of calls if the discussion is how shitty Ereck Flowers has been.

So if the choice is complaining about Odell (certain to get calls) or Eli throwing a horrendous pick, he's going to choose the guy who DOESN'T do a weekly show with him.
RE: RE: this is (especially) ridiculous  
Eman11 : 12/5/2016 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13250352 Sy'56 said:
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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved



Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)



He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.


Sorry but I couldn't disagree more. I don't think he was pumped or smiling because AB scored. I think it was at his celebration/dance he got a kick out of or even a bit of a nervous energy type of thing. Like ok, you got one now it's my turn.

There's no way I think he was actually happy AB scored.
and people wonder why players dont want to play in new york  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:22 pm : link
the alan hahn show all 4 guys including chris canty ripped beckham and said he wont make it in new york to his second contract
I love Mike  
ryanmkeane : 12/5/2016 2:22 pm : link
think he's hilarious but the anti Beckham stuff is quite annoying.
everyone had to know this was going to happen  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:26 pm : link
everyone couldnt wait to rip beckham and the giants, you knew as soon as they lost we were going to get i told you so's from the media and how the giants are a mediocre team and beckham is a nut job



this is why i have not listened to a second of sports radio today, and will only listen to eli at 505 and then turn it off
but hey  
ryanmkeane : 12/5/2016 2:27 pm : link
Dez Bryant is a warrior and competitor right??
Beckham is an emotional little child...  
Chris684 : 12/5/2016 2:28 pm : link
His act is a tired one.

It took him a month to get over the fact that he hit himself in the head with a kicking net and looked like a complete fool. The entire love story with the net that followed after was overcompensation for his embarrassment.

I'm glad he got a real kick out of Antonio Brown's TD yesterday. That sure was fun along playing stupid football giving up positive yardage and screaming after every incompletion his way.

When Odell Beckham is out of control, the Giants lose. So far we have Carolina last year (and Minnesota due to the fallout), Washington, Minnesota and Pittsburgh this year.

The guy is a great player, no one can take that away from him, but give me a guy like Larry Fitzgerald any day of the week.
You mean they weren't talking Mets bullpen and farm system on WFAN?  
lawguy9801 : 12/5/2016 2:28 pm : link
I don't buy it.
RE: Beckham is an emotional little child...  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13250391 Chris684 said:
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His act is a tired one.

It took him a month to get over the fact that he hit himself in the head with a kicking net and looked like a complete fool. The entire love story with the net that followed after was overcompensation for his embarrassment.

I'm glad he got a real kick out of Antonio Brown's TD yesterday. That sure was fun along playing stupid football giving up positive yardage and screaming after every incompletion his way.

When Odell Beckham is out of control, the Giants lose. So far we have Carolina last year (and Minnesota due to the fallout), Washington, Minnesota and Pittsburgh this year.

The guy is a great player, no one can take that away from him, but give me a guy like Larry Fitzgerald any day of the week.


he was out of control yesterday?

news to me
OBJ  
RobCarpenter : 12/5/2016 2:31 pm : link
Is the least of the Giants' current worries. Without him this team has maybe four wins.

Why can't Francessa talk about something useful, like the problems with Flowers or the Giants' inability to run the ball?
Beckham  
PaulN : 12/5/2016 2:32 pm : link
Is a problem with the refs, but his biggest problem is being as big fucking baby, and the babying has got to end, it has not worked, if that leads him to leave the team, fuck him. I don't think it would though and it might make him the player he so desperately wants to be, this entire bullshit was started by Tom Coughlin, Mr. Discipline. He blew it with Beckham, and it continues, yes it has got a little better, but it simply is not good enough, it needs to end. I love the fact that he is competitive, but his antics need to stop and be controlled.
RE: RE: RE: this is (especially) ridiculous  
Sy'56 : 12/5/2016 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13250358 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13250352 Sy'56 said:


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In comment 13250306 giants#1 said:


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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved



Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)



He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.



was he? or was he laughing at a friends celebration?

god forbid players have friends off the field of oppoaing teams..

ewing used to get ripped by the media for having dinner with mourning nights before games..


Cool. Was Ewing laughing on the bench when Mourning dunked on Oakley? I bet not....
Selective listening yet again  
Giants2012 : 12/5/2016 2:34 pm : link
Bashed Flowers
Bashed the OL

Don't say anything about the golden boy though.
Yea he was...  
Chris684 : 12/5/2016 2:35 pm : link
I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!

There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!

People take everything this guy does and spin it into something.  
arcarsenal : 12/5/2016 2:36 pm : link
It's ridiculous.

Why does his reaction have to mean "Awesome! I love that my buddy scored! I don't care about winning or losing.. that was a great catch!"

He's talked about this before. Going against elite WR's. They asked him about going against AJ when we played CIN and his response was basically that whenever he sees one of those guys make a big play, he feels like he has to 1-up them and do one better.

It was pretty obvious to me that he saw AB's catch and his reaction was "wow.. I gotta find a way to out-do THAT"..

No one on this board has ever smiled in disbelief when they've had a "wow" moment before?

Good lord. Every single thing.. the guy breathes wrong and it turns into WWIII.
RE: Yea he was...  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:37 pm : link
In comment 13250402 Chris684 said:
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I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!

There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!


if you were on the field and you went to the official and asked for an explanation and the official told you to get out of his face, you would not be pissed off?

if everytime you went up for a pass and you were held with no call you wouldnt be just a little bit annoyed
RE: Selective listening yet again  
KWhite2250 : 12/5/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13250401 Giants2012 said:
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Bashed Flowers
Bashed the OL

Don't say anything about the golden boy though.


Yes the 2 minute discussion about other things. Wonder how anybody missed that over the other 50 mins of beckham bashing.
RE: RE: RE: RE: this is (especially) ridiculous  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13250400 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 13250358 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 13250352 Sy'56 said:


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In comment 13250306 giants#1 said:


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Beckham would be mad if the Giants scored 40 and he wasn't involved



Since Beckham has actually been fined this year for celebrating his teammates accomplishments too much (e.g. Cruz's first TD back)



He was also pretty pumped about Antonio Brown's TD yesterday.



was he? or was he laughing at a friends celebration?

god forbid players have friends off the field of oppoaing teams..

ewing used to get ripped by the media for having dinner with mourning nights before games..



Cool. Was Ewing laughing on the bench when Mourning dunked on Oakley? I bet not....


give me a fucking break, they play a game! dear lord god forbid he smiles at a friends dance, if you think he was happy he scored then i dont know what to tell you...

they hung out the night before and brown probably told him what he was going to do if he scored, beckham watched and laughed and moved on, big deal
RE: .  
Frankie in Flushing : 12/5/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13250323 Danny Kanell said:
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Anyone that thinks Beckham is the type of "me" guy that would be upset he wasn't involved despite winning by 40, is just lazy and not paying attention.

Don't get me wrong, OBJ is an attention whore and in different ways, a "me" guy. But he's always seemed like a sincere team player and I truly think he'd be happier with zero catches and a win than 8 catches and a loss.

Mike can't stand him, never could. Alot of people can't. But Mike dislikes him for the wrong reasons, as do alot of people on BBI.


Sorry guys, Francesa is right. OBJ had 10 for 100 yesterday and seemed oddly okay with a loss. And why? Because his stats were better than Brown's. If they won by 40 and he did nothing he would be mad. Yesterday was the tipping point. He's a cancer and a loser.
RE: RE: Yea he was...  
Sy'56 : 12/5/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13250405 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13250402 Chris684 said:


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I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!

There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!




if you were on the field and you went to the official and asked for an explanation and the official told you to get out of his face, you would not be pissed off?

if everytime you went up for a pass and you were held with no call you wouldnt be just a little bit annoyed


Nobody knows what Beckham said to the ref. Stop acting like you do.
RE: Yea he was...  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13250402 Chris684 said:
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I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!

There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!


was he out of control when he was on the ground and mitchell came in and hit him late and he tried to push him off of him?

oh thats right aikman said beckham is losing it, so of course it is beckhams fault, nevermind the cheap shot
RE: People take everything this guy does and spin it into something.  
Frankie in Flushing : 12/5/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13250404 arcarsenal said:
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It's ridiculous.

Why does his reaction have to mean "Awesome! I love that my buddy scored! I don't care about winning or losing.. that was a great catch!"

He's talked about this before. Going against elite WR's. They asked him about going against AJ when we played CIN and his response was basically that whenever he sees one of those guys make a big play, he feels like he has to 1-up them and do one better.

It was pretty obvious to me that he saw AB's catch and his reaction was "wow.. I gotta find a way to out-do THAT"..

No one on this board has ever smiled in disbelief when they've had a "wow" moment before?

Good lord. Every single thing.. the guy breathes wrong and it turns into WWIII.


Change the name of this blog to OBJInteractive. All you people do is make excuses for Jeremy Shockey 2.0.
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nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13250415 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 13250405 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 13250402 Chris684 said:


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I guess Troy Aikman and Mike Francesa don't know what the hell they're talking about!

There's nothing to see with this guy Beckham! He's a model of class, self control and professionalism!




if you were on the field and you went to the official and asked for an explanation and the official told you to get out of his face, you would not be pissed off?

if everytime you went up for a pass and you were held with no call you wouldnt be just a little bit annoyed



Nobody knows what Beckham said to the ref. Stop acting like you do.


i am going by what beckham said and that is all we have to go on...

i do know he wnet to one official for an explanation and he said go talk to someone else, it was clear as day on camer, and buck even said it on the browdcast...
RE: RE: .  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2016 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13250413 Frankie in Flushing said:
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Sorry guys, Francesa is right. OBJ had 10 for 100 yesterday and seemed oddly okay with a loss. And why? Because his stats were better than Brown's. If they won by 40 and he did nothing he would be mad. Yesterday was the tipping point. He's a cancer and a loser.


What on GOD'S green earth are you talking about? How was he "okay" with the loss? What is your proof of this? I watched the post-game interview and I have no clue what you're talking about.
Some of those callers were beyond moronic  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/5/2016 2:43 pm : link
Sub-moronic.

But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.
RE: RE: Selective listening yet again  
Giants2012 : 12/5/2016 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13250411 KWhite2250 said:
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In comment 13250401 Giants2012 said:


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Bashed Flowers
Bashed the OL

Don't say anything about the golden boy though.



Yes the 2 minute discussion about other things. Wonder how anybody missed that over the other 50 mins of beckham bashing.


Oh no, defend Beckham, he's the greatest!!!!!

Toughen up people. Take the praise with the bash and everything in between.
I don't know how any Giants fan can sit here  
Chris684 : 12/5/2016 2:45 pm : link
with a straight face and say that Odell Beckham hasnt become a distraction over the last year and a half for 2 different head coaches, and his QB.

Does anyone think Eli wants to be following Beckham around on the sidelines trying to get him to act like an adult, or maybe the QB has more important things he can be doing?

If being Antonio Brown's #1 fanboy DURING a huge road game doesnt bother you, maybe the several examples of dumb football not getting up field and more whining to the refs, that's a great way to start getting calls!

This isnt just about yesterday, although its the latest example of his stupidity. To this point, the Washington game is the biggest letdown of the season and the main reason we will now be in a dogfight down the stretch and he was in full meltdown mode that day.

Time to act like a pro.
RE: Some of those callers were beyond moronic  
KWhite2250 : 12/5/2016 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13250425 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Sub-moronic.

But Mike creates his hills to die on, and there's always one Giants player for him to do that: Strahan, Shockey and now Beckham.


I think Frankie in Flushing is probably one of those callers. I think Mike has planted callers just to further the discussion and I wouldnt be surprised if he had some of his workers on here posting shit too. We do know he gets his news from BBI as one of his sawces
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Matt in SGS : 12/5/2016 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13250413 Frankie in Flushing said:
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In comment 13250323 Danny Kanell said:


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Anyone that thinks Beckham is the type of "me" guy that would be upset he wasn't involved despite winning by 40, is just lazy and not paying attention.

Don't get me wrong, OBJ is an attention whore and in different ways, a "me" guy. But he's always seemed like a sincere team player and I truly think he'd be happier with zero catches and a win than 8 catches and a loss.

Mike can't stand him, never could. Alot of people can't. But Mike dislikes him for the wrong reasons, as do alot of people on BBI.



Sorry guys, Francesa is right. OBJ had 10 for 100 yesterday and seemed oddly okay with a loss. And why? Because his stats were better than Brown's. If they won by 40 and he did nothing he would be mad. Yesterday was the tipping point. He's a cancer and a loser.


Odell caught 5 passes for 46 yards vs. the Bears when the Giants won their 5th in a row. I don't remember him bitching or sulking after that or complaining to the media. When one of the other receivers catches a TD, he's one of the first over to celebrate. He gets shit for crying on the bench vs. the Redskins because he's competitive and pissed. But he smirks when Brown makes an impressive TD, and now he's a cancer?

I'm crusty as a fan and it's taken me a bit to understand that the modern athlete is not the same as years before. Beckham and Brown hanging out the night before the game. Putting it on instagram. Those damn Millenials.

But Beckham is not the problem on this team. he gets ratings talk about since it's not as exciting to discuss a regression by the offensive line, and Flowers in particular. Or that the defense held up and Collins, who is having a great year, had a mental breakdown on the TD to make it 21-7. Fuck Odell, he was smiling when Brown scored, get him out of here.
the same ripping beckham for talking to the officials  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:50 pm : link
why dont you rip eli? papa and banks both said how furious eli was with the officiating and said multiple times how he was pleading his case to the official..

funny no mention of that from the people ripping beckham
RE: I don't know how any Giants fan can sit here  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/5/2016 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13250428 Chris684 said:
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with a straight face and say that Odell Beckham hasnt become a distraction over the last year and a half for 2 different head coaches, and his QB.

Does anyone think Eli wants to be following Beckham around on the sidelines trying to get him to act like an adult, or maybe the QB has more important things he can be doing?

If being Antonio Brown's #1 fanboy DURING a huge road game doesnt bother you, maybe the several examples of dumb football not getting up field and more whining to the refs, that's a great way to start getting calls!

This isnt just about yesterday, although its the latest example of his stupidity. To this point, the Washington game is the biggest letdown of the season and the main reason we will now be in a dogfight down the stretch and he was in full meltdown mode that day.

Time to act like a pro.


This is what happens when people go too far in the other direction... they start saying things that are just ridiculous.

- It's Odell's fault Will Tye didn't finish his route when Eli threw the pick versus Washington?
- It's Odell's fault Eli threw the game ending pick?
- It's Odell's fault Eli didn't see him streaking wide open down the side line?
- It's Odell's fault Weston Richburg/Andrew Adams picked up insane personal foul penalties?


Yesterday, the biggest plays in the game are Eli's pick, Flower's safety, and Leon Hall falling asleep in the end zone on Brown's TD. How is ANY of that related to Odell Beckham?
So much stupid on this thread  
RobCarpenter : 12/5/2016 2:52 pm : link
I mean - comparing him to Shockey?
RE: the same ripping beckham for talking to the officials  
Matt in SGS : 12/5/2016 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13250445 nygiants16 said:
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why dont you rip eli? papa and banks both said how furious eli was with the officiating and said multiple times how he was pleading his case to the official..

funny no mention of that from the people ripping beckham


The fact that Eli did that, and Eli doesn't make a peep on the field when shit is going on around him in his 13 year career, tells you that Odell was probably right.
shockey, because he smiled when ab danced  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2016 2:53 pm : link
god forbid anybody smile when the team is losing, it means they do not care
Odell  
Les in TO : 12/5/2016 2:56 pm : link
is not some Soviet red army automanon who plays the game like a robot. He is a hard working, passionate player who doesn't try and hide his emotions. if every Giant was as dedicated as #13 to winning we would be undefeated.

RE: the same ripping beckham for talking to the officials  
Giants2012 : 12/5/2016 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13250445 nygiants16 said:
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why dont you rip eli? papa and banks both said how furious eli was with the officiating and said multiple times how he was pleading his case to the official..

funny no mention of that from the people ripping beckham


Yeah lol. - b/c Eli and OBJ have the same personality

Too bad OBJ didn't make that Awesome FG before the Philly game. Only those present saw that clown act
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