In the article, the Giants believe that the officials missed several pass interference calls against Pittsburgh, including the call early in the game where OBJ was called for offensive pass interference
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I am somewhat critical of OBJ constantly complaining to the refs (I think at this point its all falling on deaf ears & alienating him more), but maybe he's singled out because he's on his own. You often see other HCs talking to refs, sometimes screaming and cussing, after a bad call. Thats just the way it is.
I always hated Jim Harbaugh jumping around like a little boy on the SL. I'm not suggesting McAdoo do that, but you got to work the refs. PC or not, if it helps you win, you do it.
But since most of complaint are about calls on the offensive side of the ball (PI, holding... etc), McAdoo is too busy thinking about the situation, the next play call, I dont think he has much time to talk to the refs, or possibly even clock management, which he had a couple of issues with already.
right now, that is the case with Beckham. He's so good, DB's are interfering with him on nearly every play and it is absolutely mind-boggling that he was called for more PI than he drew yesterday.
Indefensible.
And the tye play was complete horseshit. People will say the offense looked like shit - and it did, but taking away the PI on Beckham in the end zone and not calling the Tye play on the 4th down pretty much took 2 TD's off the board.
right now, that is the case with Beckham. He's so good, DB's are interfering with him on nearly every play and it is absolutely mind-boggling that he was called for more PI than he drew yesterday.
Indefensible.
And the tye play was complete horseshit. People will say the offense looked like shit - and it did, but taking away the PI on Beckham in the end zone and not calling the Tye play on the 4th down pretty much took 2 TD's off the board.
Yeah I'm with you in this - seems like some crews have decided they don't like OBJ and he pays for it through non-calls. Of course, that's on him to a large degree for his antics, but it's a 2 way street
I don't know, Garrett doesn't seem to go apeshit, yet his team gets a lot of calls in their favor. Rex Ryan is an aggressive motherfucker, and the Bills often get screwed.
Not sure I see this as a valid complaint
Nobody is advocating pulling a Jim Harbaugh or a Schwartz on the SL. I dont think screaming and showing up refs on TV helps, but there are ways to work them like you work anybody else you need something from. Push or even just nudge somebody enough, and chances are you get at least something back.
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
I think he has gained the reputation as a knuckle head and a guy who gets into it with DBs. So, when you have that reputation, you can get calls going against you that probably would not do against say a Julio Jones or Antonio Brown. In other words, unintentional bias.
he'll be hardpressed to get out of anytime soon with the officials.
He needs to shut up and get back to the huddle, the more he whines the more he's going to get abused with more no calls.
Too bad the head doesn't match the talent, he could have been one of the best ever.
This. It ain't fair and never will be but his complaining and outbursts make it more and more likely that there will be a massive bias against him. This happens in all sports. Beckham is now the bad guy and other teams fans likely love to see him treated unfairly. For the league it probably works in their favour that Beckham is public enemy #1 - it makes for a good storyline and Beckham plays right into it.
Should be motto of the oppressed everywhere.
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Refs collude against Beckham? What did he do that's so horrid to deserve that treatment? Wouldn't they reserve collusion for guys like Burfict and Suh who've both had infinitely more dirty plays?
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
I think he has gained the reputation as a knuckle head and a guy who gets into it with DBs. So, when you have that reputation, you can get calls going against you that probably would not do against say a Julio Jones or Antonio Brown. In other words, unintentional bias.
That makes sense.
The guy is emotional, everybody knows that, and thats fine. But at times he kind of rubs it in after a big play too. Against the Bears, after the punt return (TD called back), he punter tells him there's a flag, and you can read his lips talking down to the guy saying "you're a punter" or something like that. And after the game in the presser he's asked about the exchange, he says something like (paraphrasing) "I dont care, I ran in for a TD anyways"... then said it was a friendly exchange. But his reaction live, didnt look like it was very friendly.
I dont know... I love the guy, but things happen on the field that we all dont see. Its just odd for a guy like him to be facing so much adversity like that.
Who said he should scream. Repeatedly said I dont think he should, but he can talk.
You act like a player/coach never effected a call, before or after it was made... guess you missed the part in the game yesterday, where the flag for PF for the hit on Tye was picked up after the Steelers players talked to the refs.
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the notion that McAdoo doesn't scream enough is hilarious. Can't make this shit up.
Who said he should scream. Repeatedly said I dont think he should, but he can talk.
You act like a player/coach never effected a call, before or after it was made... guess you missed the part in the game yesterday, where the flag for PF for the hit on Tye was picked up after the Steelers players talked to the refs.
I'm not acting like anything. Im also not the one critiquing what McAdoo does based on what I think I might see on tv.
I agree. No idea how a player can talk his way out of a penalty.
I think McAdoo is fine coach, and respect what he's done with the team so far, but I think calling plays is taking away from his overall responsibilities as HC.
Speaking of dinner menu. It looks like there are 15,000 plays on it yet we only use 6 of them
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In comment 13250929 UConn4523 said:
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the notion that McAdoo doesn't scream enough is hilarious. Can't make this shit up.
Who said he should scream. Repeatedly said I dont think he should, but he can talk.
You act like a player/coach never effected a call, before or after it was made... guess you missed the part in the game yesterday, where the flag for PF for the hit on Tye was picked up after the Steelers players talked to the refs.
I'm not acting like anything. Im also not the one critiquing what McAdoo does based on what I think I might see on tv.
If we cant discuss what we see on TV, & considering that most watch the games on TV, why are we even here? Eric needs to shut this down
I think McAdoo is fine coach, and respect what he's done with the team so far, but I think calling plays is taking away from his overall responsibilities as HC.
Absolutely, was going to say exactly the same thing. The most you get from doing it this way via a request for an explaination is an "I'm sorry but you got screwed and there is nothing we are going to do about it" letter
I guess you failed to read where it was the coach and the team FO that sent the letter in asking for an explaination, not Odell. Reading is fundemental
You're could be right, I just hardly recall him talking to the refs.
Besides... time to move on. Hate Mondays after a loss, specially with so much at stake
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I know thats the process, but if McAdoo moves that "diner menu" away from face and talks to the officials during games, maybe he can get a few calls.
I think McAdoo is fine coach, and respect what he's done with the team so far, but I think calling plays is taking away from his overall responsibilities as HC.
Absolutely, was going to say exactly the same thing. The most you get from doing it this way via a request for an explaination is an "I'm sorry but you got screwed and there is nothing we are going to do about it" letter
"Bummer"... if you know what I mean
There are still people who think Fassel walked off the field with a smile after the bad call in SF, when he had a heated argument with the refs.
People really don't know if Mac yells or not.
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Life Isn't Fair! Go play with your hair.
I guess you failed to read where it was the coach and the team FO that sent the letter in asking for an explaination, not Odell. Reading is fundemental
That was with the picture of Blandino being him saying those things
but please go on.
right now, that is the case with Beckham. He's so good, DB's are interfering with him on nearly every play and it is absolutely mind-boggling that he was called for more PI than he drew yesterday.
Indefensible.
And the tye play was complete horseshit. People will say the offense looked like shit - and it did, but taking away the PI on Beckham in the end zone and not calling the Tye play on the 4th down pretty much took 2 TD's off the board.
You saw this same crap with Strahan in his prime.
People talk about Favre's "gift sack" in 2001? Strahan should've had 40 sacks that year. The holding was obscene.
he'll be hardpressed to get out of anytime soon with the officials.
He needs to shut up and get back to the huddle, the more he whines the more he's going to get abused with more no calls.
Too bad the head doesn't match the talent, he could have been one of the best ever.
He asked for an explanation and was told to get out of the refs face
This. The problem with the NFL, they are focusing on making the game international, Mexico, London, Thursday night, all this focus on spreading the product around but no regard for quality. We need better officiating, period. This league is built on parody, equality. Everybody gets to work under the same salary cap. More games are close. More and more the refs are involved in the outcome of the game. It's getting freaking old.
Fix it Goodell.
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In comment 13250940 shelovesnycsports said:
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Life Isn't Fair! Go play with your hair.
I guess you failed to read where it was the coach and the team FO that sent the letter in asking for an explanation, not Odell. Reading is fundamental
That was with the picture of Blandino being him saying those things
but please go on.
Exactly, if you read the OP and the article it links to instead of assuming what you wrote in that nonsensical post because a pic that does not apply, you might realize you were wrong. So once again Reading is fundamental.
Now tomorrow I think you should go into the world and make contact with a human. Just say hi.
he'll be hardpressed to get out of anytime soon with the officials.
He needs to shut up and get back to the huddle, the more he whines the more he's going to get abused with more no calls.
Too bad the head doesn't match the talent, he could have been one of the best ever.
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players getting favorable treatment. What I expect is that they won't be penalized for their talent.
right now, that is the case with Beckham. He's so good, DB's are interfering with him on nearly every play and it is absolutely mind-boggling that he was called for more PI than he drew yesterday.
Indefensible.
And the tye play was complete horseshit. People will say the offense looked like shit - and it did, but taking away the PI on Beckham in the end zone and not calling the Tye play on the 4th down pretty much took 2 TD's off the board.
Yeah I'm with you in this - seems like some crews have decided they don't like OBJ and he pays for it through non-calls. Of course, that's on him to a large degree for his antics, but it's a 2 way street
In the Panthers game, the shit started before the game and the first play. It kept building because there was never a flag and the Giants couldn't get him the ball. Once they finally fed him the ball, he responded, but it was too late for him and the Giants.
The problem is his reaction that game has now made him persona non grata with officials, even though that was the result of 2 years of this bs and it's getting worse.
But OBJ is such a jerk off on the field that I have no sympathy for him. Even when he has a legitimate beef I move quickly to ignore it. Guy needs to cross paths with real pros like Tim Brown or Marcus Allen to learn what professionalism and unselfishness is about at this level.
Now tomorrow I think you should go into the world and make contact with a human. Just say hi.
Right..now its a joke ..Okie dokie
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In comment 13250912 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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players getting favorable treatment. What I expect is that they won't be penalized for their talent.
right now, that is the case with Beckham. He's so good, DB's are interfering with him on nearly every play and it is absolutely mind-boggling that he was called for more PI than he drew yesterday.
Indefensible.
And the tye play was complete horseshit. People will say the offense looked like shit - and it did, but taking away the PI on Beckham in the end zone and not calling the Tye play on the 4th down pretty much took 2 TD's off the board.
Yeah I'm with you in this - seems like some crews have decided they don't like OBJ and he pays for it through non-calls. Of course, that's on him to a large degree for his antics, but it's a 2 way street
It's not on him for his antics. His antics were born out this same disregard from officials. And, it started well before the Panthers game last year. It began his first year and continued last year. Teams started getting overly physical early in games with OBJ to get in his head. Somebody must have had the book on him. In most of those games, OBJ was on the brink of losing it. The difference is early on he made a big play, which put an end to most of the crap.
In the Panthers game, the shit started before the game and the first play. It kept building because there was never a flag and the Giants couldn't get him the ball. Once they finally fed him the ball, he responded, but it was too late for him and the Giants.
The problem is his reaction that game has now made him persona non grata with officials, even though that was the result of 2 years of this bs and it's getting worse.
Especially this crew since they caught so much shit for the way they handled that game last season
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
bad luck? this was the same crew that worked the Panthers game last year, and this year's Redskins game. There is no way to prove it, but there is definite bias against the Giants in the 3 games officiated by this crew.
I would love to know when they will be working our next game, because I'm going to chalk that one up to an automatic L.
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
bad luck? this was the same crew that worked the Panthers game last year, and this year's Redskins game. There is no way to prove it, but there is definite bias against the Giants in the 3 games officiated by this crew.
I would love to know when they will be working our next game, because I'm going to chalk that one up to an automatic L.
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
bad luck? this was the same crew that worked the Panthers game last year, and this year's Redskins game. There is no way to prove it, but there is definite bias against the Giants in the 3 games officiated by this crew.
I would love to know when they will be working our next game, because I'm going to chalk that one up to an automatic L.
I just don't buy it. It's a string of bad luck coupled with bad officiating, IMO. It will blow over, just like the Norman incident did.
bad luck? this was the same crew that worked the Panthers game last year, and this year's Redskins game. There is no way to prove it, but there is definite bias against the Giants in the 3 games officiated by this crew.
I would love to know when they will be working our next game, because I'm going to chalk that one up to an automatic L.
But OBJ is such a jerk off on the field that I have no sympathy for him. Even when he has a legitimate beef I move quickly to ignore it. Guy needs to cross paths with real pros like Tim Brown or Marcus Allen to learn what professionalism and unselfishness is about at this level.
What has OBJ done that makes him "such a jerk" off the field?
He said he was a "jerkoff" on the field.
Shouldn't he, you know, be prepping for his Sunday NFL game?