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NFT: Bryce Harper wants $400 million.

AcidTest : 12/5/2016 9:50 pm
The Nationals apparently won't pay. Would you?


Bryce Harper Wants $400 Million - ( New Window )
good luck  
spike : 12/5/2016 9:52 pm : link
. I hope it will ruin the clubhouse
Yanks will pay  
Giants2012 : 12/5/2016 9:52 pm : link
or the Dodgers

Doubt the Sox will

A bargain considering he just put up 1.6 WAR last year.  
guitarguybs12 : 12/5/2016 9:56 pm : link
Lock him up! /s
What exactly  
Sy'56 : 12/5/2016 10:03 pm : link
has Harper accomplished other than hype?
RE: What exactly  
Danny Kanell : 12/5/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13251131 Sy'56 said:
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has Harper accomplished other than hype?


He had one of the best seasons for a baseball player in decades, maybe ever, at the age of 22.
RE: What exactly  
Dunedin81 : 12/5/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13251131 Sy'56 said:
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has Harper accomplished other than hype?


Without lineup protection, he had one of the best offensive season, outside of the steroid era, in a long long time. His 2015 OPS+ is better than anything any other active player has posted by six points.
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christian : 12/5/2016 10:10 pm : link
He had a very average year. But his 2015 was anything but hype. That was one of the truly great modern performances in baseball.
RE: What exactly  
Vin R : 12/5/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13251131 Sy'56 said:
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has Harper accomplished other than hype?


A nice beard
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Danny Kanell : 12/5/2016 10:13 pm : link
He's going to be 25 as a free agent. He's already an MVP. I absolutely hope the Yankees sign him. If it's $400M, so be it. I'd rather give Harper $400M at 25 than someone $200M over 30. Baseball contracts are so insane, this will be a bargain in 5 years.
.  
Danny Kanell : 12/5/2016 10:25 pm : link
Yankee 2018 Lineup

SS Torres
3B Machado
RF Harper
C Sanchez
DH Encarnacion
CF Frazier
LF Judge
1B Bird
2B Didi

Talk to me!


Sign him up  
DennyInDenville : 12/5/2016 10:29 pm : link
Yankees RF would net him 40+ Homers every year

CF: Mateo
SS: Didi
LF: Trout
RF: Harper
C : Sanchez
3B: Machado
2B: Torres
1B: Bird
DH: Judge
Forgot Frazier hmm  
DennyInDenville : 12/5/2016 10:29 pm : link
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If anyone pays him that.. good luck.  
arcarsenal : 12/5/2016 11:00 pm : link
Guy better be Barry Bonds in his prime for that price tag.
For what? Which owner does he have as a hostage?  
Jim in Hoboken : 12/5/2016 11:09 pm : link
I'm not forking over a 1st round pick for him, hell no.

All kidding aside, do people still seriously think these mega deals are a good idea? Even for a 25-year-old, no way. I'm assuming he's thinking 10 years and 40M per, personally I don't think he deserves 40M a year.

I'd give Trout 350M for 10 years though, but that's about it.
With ESPN Losing Viewers  
Samiam : 12/5/2016 11:14 pm : link
I wonder if it's the start of normalcy with what the networks will pay for sports and then the size of contracts to players. I widh more people cut the cable cord
RE: .  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/5/2016 11:18 pm : link
In comment 13251139 Danny Kanell said:
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He's going to be 25 as a free agent. He's already an MVP. I absolutely hope the Yankees sign him. If it's $400M, so be it. I'd rather give Harper $400M at 25 than someone $200M over 30. Baseball contracts are so insane, this will be a bargain in 5 years.

That's what they said about ARod 16 years ago. As productive as he was, his contract never became a bargain.

And if baseball viewership continues declining, salaries will eventually as well.
RE: With ESPN Losing Viewers  
Sgrcts : 12/5/2016 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13251184 Samiam said:
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I wonder if it's the start of normalcy with what the networks will pay for sports and then the size of contracts to players. I widh more people cut the cable cord



Why? I never understood people who begrudge what athletes make. It has absolutely no effect on what it is you pay for your product, so either the player will be paid well or the owner will just make that much more money. Why would you care or want the owner to get paid?
Fans begrudge players salaries when they dog it  
xman : 12/6/2016 12:26 am : link
But also if a player isn't producing the team can't go out and bring in another salary because of budget constraints.So these high price FA that become bust really hinder a teams ability to bring in a new stud
The Yankees aren't paying that?  
Matt M. : 12/6/2016 1:14 am : link
Have you not been paying attention to how the Steinbrenner boys run the franchise? I think that demand is obscene to begin with. IT's $100M over obscene.
Who doesn't!?  
old man : 12/6/2016 1:26 am : link
Can find other over hyped head cases much cheaper than that!
If Harper and Satan (Boras) think Harper is...  
bw in dc : 12/6/2016 1:30 am : link
a $400M player, then what is a Trout worth? A billion?

In five years, Harper's war average is < 4. Trout is 9.6.

Harper has some serious swing reconstruction to do. His front side pulls off on almost anything middle and away. It's really tough to watch because I root for the guy. In DC, he's a total rock star.

But until he demonstrates an ability to string back to back season like any of Trout's last five, I say save the money for more resources...
Harper followed a MVP season with  
larryflower37 : 12/6/2016 1:57 am : link
A disappointing season.
.243 ba, 25 hrs, and 84 rbi's
If you are looking for 40 million per that's not the way you get it.
He has 2 seasons to prove his worth.
I'm assuming his next two seasons will be better  
illmatic : 12/6/2016 2:10 am : link
than this past season was. And if that's the case, he'll get 300+ pretty easily. I don't know about 400 but anything is possible. As far as it possibly breaking up the locker room because other players would be mad or jealous, I really doubt that. The more the salaries go up in general, the better off the players are. They'll probably be thrilled if him and Machado get insane contracts.

All I know is that if his 2018 season matches or betters his 2015 season, he's getting 300 million at a bare minimum. Cano got 10 years and 240 million at age 31 I think it was. You don't get chances to sign superstar players in their prime and you'll be surprised what teams will do if they think it'll turn their team around and put butts in the seats.
A-Rod's first contract was not a bargain...  
Dunedin81 : 12/6/2016 7:23 am : link
But it was a solid value, all things considered. He was the best player in the game and was paid like it. His second contract was a disaster.
I'm curious what kind of $  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/6/2016 7:25 am : link
Trout would get if he was on the open market right now. I'd imagine enough to buy a small country.
Right now I am not impressed.  
section125 : 12/6/2016 7:50 am : link
$40 mill per may seem like a bargain 10 years down the road if he was overwhelmingly great, but I just don't see it. He's had one truly great season, the rest pedestrian. If he shows improvement the next two years he probably get it.
RE: .  
GMENGianni : 12/6/2016 7:52 am : link
In comment 13251148 Danny Kanell said:
Quote:
Yankee 2018 Lineup

SS Torres
3B Machado
RF Harper
C Sanchez
DH Encarnacion
CF Frazier
LF Judge
1B Bird
2B Didi

Talk to me!



I can only get so erect! OMG.
RE: .  
section125 : 12/6/2016 8:00 am : link
In comment 13251148 Danny Kanell said:
Quote:
Yankee 2018 Lineup

SS Torres
3B Machado
RF Harper
C Sanchez
DH Encarnacion
CF Frazier
LF Judge
1B Bird
2B Didi

Talk to me!



Encarnacion isn't coming. But a scary lineup just the same. I doubt they get both Machado and Harper.
RE: .  
Giants2012 : 12/6/2016 8:02 am : link
In comment 13251148 Danny Kanell said:
Quote:
Yankee 2018 Lineup

SS Torres
3B Machado
RF Harper
C Sanchez
DH Encarnacion
CF Frazier
LF Judge
1B Bird
2B Didi

Talk to me!



"welcome home" delusional Suzyn Waldman



The way I like to evaluate players looking for huge contracts  
Ira : 12/6/2016 8:45 am : link
is to look at their career numbers. Harper's career numbers aren't close to being worth $400m. When you factor in his personality, it's even worse.
Trout, on the other hand, has been a model of consistency.  
Ira : 12/6/2016 8:50 am : link
But he's already locked up.
RE: Trout, on the other hand, has been a model of consistency.  
guitarguybs12 : 12/6/2016 8:55 am : link
In comment 13251349 Ira said:
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But he's already locked up.


6 years, $144.5M...still can't believe they were able to keep him for that. He's a way better player than Harper too IMO. If anyone deserved a $400m contract it was probably him.
If Encaracion..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/6/2016 9:05 am : link
becomes a Yank, that's when he'll finally get busted for steroids....
RE: If Encaracion..  
Danny Kanell : 12/6/2016 9:06 am : link
In comment 13251373 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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becomes a Yank, that's when he'll finally get busted for steroids....


lol you're right.
RE: A-Rod's first contract was not a bargain...  
LauderdaleMatty : 12/6/2016 10:13 am : link
In comment 13251265 Dunedin81 said:
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But it was a solid value, all things considered. He was the best player in the game and was paid like it. His second contract was a disaster.


This. And as pointed out a million times the Yanks were hiding against themselves. A disaster. Elsberry's deal isn't far behind either IMO. hopefully we are last there deals. Harper isn't getting 40 per year unless he tears it up next year and the team has some end of deal outs
RE: A-Rod's first contract was not a bargain...  
Jim in Fairfax : 12/6/2016 11:13 am : link
In comment 13251265 Dunedin81 said:
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But it was a solid value, all things considered. He was the best player in the game and was paid like it. His second contract was a disaster.

Sure he did. But many argued that it would seem like a bargain 3-4 years later when other lesser players were getting even bigger contracts. But the salary explosion slowed and his contract remained the largest. Fair value, but not a bargain.

If someone actually gives Hatper $400M, it's very unlikely that a few years later it'll seem like a bargain. I don't see that baseball will have the revenue growth for that to happen.
RE: If Encaracion..  
Vin R : 12/6/2016 12:18 pm : link
In comment 13251373 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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becomes a Yank, that's when he'll finally get busted for steroids....


Lol sounds about right
pretty ballsy, even for Boras, for a guy who has had ONE great year  
Victor in CT : 12/6/2016 4:58 pm : link
out of 5. He ain't Mike Trout.
RE: RE: What exactly  
Victor in CT : 12/6/2016 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13251135 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 13251131 Sy'56 said:


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has Harper accomplished other than hype?



He had one of the best seasons for a baseball player in decades, maybe ever, at the age of 22.


and 4 mediocre ones around it. That year was an outlier.
After El Gary  
shelovesnycsports : 12/6/2016 5:16 pm : link
hits over 60 home runs this year,Yanks will thinks different.
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