according to bleacher report, They are close to a deal.
If this is true look at their rotation: Scherzer, Sale, Strasburg, Roark, Gonzalez, and they might still have Giolito.
And the Yanks have Tanaka....that's it...Everyone else is unproven and young..Could they be something?? Maybe...They are talking about Severino being better suited for the bull pen and who knows what Kap will do this coming season. Cessa and Green may be a back end solid pitchers for us, but I have zero faith in Pineda.
I know that we are in a youth movement but until these prospects step on the mound and prove that they are solid pitchers we are far from solid rotation. I still say stay the course but its hard to see us struggle so bad at SP.
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Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports that the Yankees are focused on Aroldis Chapman.
Heyman notes that Kenley Jansen is also being talked to, but Chapman is the team's first choice. And that makes sense, as they know Chapman well and he isn't tied to draft pick compensation. The hard-throwing left-hander told Marly Rivera of ESPN on Monday that he wants a six-year contract. Heyman writes that the Yankees won't do that, but that five years looks like a good bet
Because after the big two pieces the White Sox are looking to get back, Dan mentioned that they were still looking for 3 "other" NATS prospects back. If we were engaged in similar talk do you think the Nats would looking at some of our top prospects as well or do you think they would be looking to acquire the rights to our hot dog vendors??
Yeah I seriously doubt that but thanks. Nimmo is 100% in that next tier of "interesting" after top guys like Rosario in terms of the Mets and his name was brought up at last years deadline in the Lucroy and Bruce deals. If anything, Nimmo's national ranking status is hurt by Vegas at the moment (was still cracking top 100 lists mid-2015) and he'd be a nice upside play IMO. Your effort in trying to bash the Mets system is pretty transparent though. Always nice to have Greg the dick come out and play. :)
Which is why I mentioned somebody like Syndergaard as the second top piece(I guess maybe Matz too although he is frail but likely still has some value depending on the team) and never mentioned Nimmo as a "top piece".
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line on Mets/Sale if the White Sox really do get a deal headlined by Giolito/Robles the Mets simply couldn't match that without hurting the big club (ie Matz). That's not even a knock on the Mets system, just that the Nats have 2 "a-list" prospects at positions people covet, the Mets have 1 (Rosario).
Which is why I mentioned somebody like Syndergaard as the second top piece(I guess maybe Matz too although he is frail but likely still has some value depending on the team) and never mentioned Nimmo as a "top piece".
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying the Mets don't have 2 minor leaguers as appealing as the Nationals top 2. For all we know a year from now Robles looks like a turd and someone like Szapucki looks like a stud but timing is everything. "Every" team asks about Rosario, the other guys are different levels of good/solid prospects for right now.
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line on Mets/Sale if the White Sox really do get a deal headlined by Giolito/Robles the Mets simply couldn't match that without hurting the big club (ie Matz). That's not even a knock on the Mets system, just that the Nats have 2 "a-list" prospects at positions people covet, the Mets have 1 (Rosario).
Which is why I mentioned somebody like Syndergaard as the second top piece(I guess maybe Matz too although he is frail but likely still has some value depending on the team) and never mentioned Nimmo as a "top piece".
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying the Mets don't have 2 minor leaguers as appealing as the Nationals top 2. For all we know a year from now Robles looks like a turd and someone like Szapucki looks like a stud but timing is everything. "Every" team asks about Rosario, the other guys are different levels of good/solid prospects for right now.
Didn't I say a pre-2016 Syndergaard and Rosario would be comparable though? I dont really get this discussion much. Seems like we were saying the same thing.
What would Davis cost? Could Nimmo/Lugo something of that nature get it done?
Part of the issue was when I said "I dont want to argue about it" I wasn't speaking to you, but generally (PJ, Greg, and others were also chiming in). Anyways, moving on. lol
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reportedly making "everybody" available at the right price. Their farm system blows so they could use an influx of talent.
What would Davis cost? Could Nimmo/Lugo something of that nature get it done?
The feeling is the Royals are going to get at least one "big" piece with the money Chapman/Jansen are rumored to be getting. I don't think that Mets package would be enough.
From the town I live in MA. Was all over the news everyday until the PED's.
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reportedly making "everybody" available at the right price. Their farm system blows so they could use an influx of talent.
What would Davis cost? Could Nimmo/Lugo something of that nature get it done?
The feeling is the Royals are going to get at least one "big" piece with the money Chapman/Jansen are rumored to be getting. I don't think that Mets package would be enough.
I think he's only under contract for one more year, right? I'd still be interested even if it cost a little more than that. Davis/Reed/Familia would be an excellent back end.
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has elected FA. Was a nice story, then popped for PED's, horrendous 2016... which is always suspicious. I'm sure someone picks him up for AAA/AAAA depth.
From the town I live in MA. Was all over the news everyday until the PED's.
Swore up and down he didn't do anything wrong. Might be total BS but there were even rumors there were "tears" in his teammates eyes when he told them. Was absolutely awful in 2016 which doesn't really help his case. Someone will sign him as a starter in AAA but yeah, went from a feel good story to "hes a cheater".
Davis 1.86 FIP
Chapman 1.46 FIP
Jansen 1.80
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Sadly, I don't believe the Cubs window is short. Absolutely loaded with young regulars with "unlimited" money.
We'll see. Lester is older and has a health history. Lackey is very old. Arrieta took a step back from his CY-like 2015, No closer. No good position for Schwarber.
See how prospects pan out (besides the ones in the majors already).
I would not be shocked if they miss the playoffs in 2017.
1 SP has made more starts over the last 9 seasons (James Shields). He's arguably the "least" injury prone SP in baseball with Buehrle gone and Arroyo basically done.
Rizzo, Bryant, Russell, Baez, Hendricks
I'm not even including unproven talent like Contreras, Soler, Almora or uber prospect Eloy Jimenez. I'd be beyond blown away if the Cubs are not perennial contenders for the next half decade minimum.
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1 SP has made more starts over the last 9 seasons (James Shields). He's arguably the "least" injury prone SP in baseball with Buehrle gone and Arroyo basically done.
He had cancer. It's not like that's a lifetime cure. Just saying he's 33 and been through cancer. No idea when his career will come to an end (not saying it's different than other pitchers, they can all break, but I have to think a cancer history makes him more susceptible for the end coming sooner).
the Mets swept that exact same Cubs team pretty much in 2015 sans Chapman and with a fully healthy Schwarber, a lights out Arrieta and Starlin Castro (for better or worse). Yes Hendricks had a good year in 2016, but kind of came out of nowhere and I'd need to see more before feeling like he's a stud.
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They are also in discussion with Mitch Moreland.
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Sources: #RedSox remain strongly in mix for #WhiteSoxs Sale, along with #Nationals.
Nationals, looking at RP options after losing Melancon, could pursue David Robertson as well as Sale in a big deal with White Sox.
According to fan graphs Thornburg had a significant uptick in velocity last year. Maybe he is just responding well to his relief role after years of struggling as a starter.
Moncada and Benintendi?
I'd love to see them give up those two and Kopech.
Moncada and Benintendi?
I'd love to see them give up those two and Kopech.
Neither Moncada or Benintendi are being discussed at the moment. Boston apparently flat "no" on both and the White Sox didn't walk away (who knows how true it is?).
According to fan graphs Thornburg had a significant uptick in velocity last year. Maybe he is just responding well to his relief role after years of struggling as a starter.
f-ing Red Sox. They'll get Sale (which is better than the Nats getting him IMO) and not give up a top 10 prospect.
While the Nats offer included two top 15 prospects.
JBJ shouldn't be a centerpiece in this trade.
His 2016 2nd half is more what he is than his 2016 1st half IMO.
Trade high I guess like the did with Iglesias.
Moncada and Benintendi?
I'd love to see them give up those two and Kopech.
No way they don't give up people who can contribute well and more broadly. Sale is very good but he is a shiny thing. Dombrowski likes shiny things though. In that way, he brings the personality and competence of a kitten to his job.
So in other words you are regurgitating what we've all said. Thanks.
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make that is competitive with the Nats?
Moncada and Benintendi?
I'd love to see them give up those two and Kopech.
If the Red Sox get Sale I will publicly cry.
No way they don't give up people who can contribute well and more broadly. Sale is very good but he is a shiny thing. Dombrowski likes shiny things though. In that way, he brings the personality and competence of a kitten to his job.
If the Red Sox can get Sale for JBJ and Devers you should drive them both to the airport and pay the tolls yourself.
JBJ is expendable and Devers is a prospect.
If that's the actual offer and it's being considered by the White Sox my guess is the Nats did NOT actually offer Giolito and Robles. Doesn't make sense IMO.