doesn't mean he will have it, but it means its bad enough to get another opinion. I'm usually optimistic on injuries since we don't have all the details, but i'm bracing for him being shut down for the season. I don't think we can get to the post season without him.
doesn't mean he will have it, but it means its bad enough to get another opinion. I'm usually optimistic on injuries since we don't have all the details, but i'm bracing for him being shut down for the season. I don't think we can get to the post season without him.
i am usually optimistic to, so my optimistic view is he is going to see this doctor to see if he cant pit off surgery and somehow still play
doesn't mean he will have it, but it means its bad enough to get another opinion. I'm usually optimistic on injuries since we don't have all the details, but i'm bracing for him being shut down for the season. I don't think we can get to the post season without him.
i am usually optimistic to, so my optimistic view is he is going to see this doctor to see if he cant pit off surgery and somehow still play
He's definitely the type of guy that would play through it if he could. But he'll be almost useless if its a really bad strain, atleast in the short term. He's also got his contract to think about and I think he's done enough this year to get close to top dollar. Not saying that's his sole driver or anything, but its a factor worth noting.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz
Confirming @MikeGarafolo report, JPP is in Philly to see sports hernia specialist. Belief is injury can be rehabbed and treated w/o surgery.
He's definitely the type of guy that would play through it if he could. But he'll be almost useless if its a really bad strain, atleast in the short term. He's also got his contract to think about and I think he's done enough this year to get close to top dollar. Not saying that's his sole driver or anything, but its a factor worth noting.
The flip side is that a dominant playoff performance (see Von Miller/Malik Jackson) could boost the contract value. Von Miller was certainly getting top dollar before the postseason, but he took it to another level. I don't think Jackson was a $14M/season player before the playoffs.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz
Confirming @MikeGarafolo report, JPP is in Philly to see sports hernia specialist. Belief is injury can be rehabbed and treated w/o surgery.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 36m36 minutes ago
Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul is in Philly today to see noted surgeon William Meyers regarding his groin injury, sources say.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo
Pierre-Paul's visit to Meyers doesn't necessarily mean surgery. Meyers is known for his work with what many call sports hernias.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz
Confirming @MikeGarafolo report, JPP is in Philly to see sports hernia specialist. Belief is injury can be rehabbed and treated w/o surgery.
Wait, now it's a hernia?
Ffs, can we have a correct diagnosis.
the doctor is known as a hernia specialist but they dont know what the injury is
Hope for the best that he is back for be playoff push
deal with many injuries in that area. A hernia is a protrusion of the intestine through the stomach wall which usually takes place in the groin area. This isn't uncommon for people with bad strains to do.
People go to back surgeons all the time for an opinion on back pain, doesn't mean everyone is ready to get or needs back surgery. These athletes have instant access to every type of doctor their is, why wouldn't they get multiple opinions?
In sum, wait for more info, can be anything.
well, that sucks. Next man up candidates aren't very promising.
Hope that its not a full tear or that he feels he can play
but wants to be sure what the risk is .
If he id done then we won't make the run we liked to see
your not gonna replace what he does for the defense .
Odi has done nothing and is banged up Okwara looks like
a guy that will develop but in no way will he even
come close to what JPP is right now .
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As @MikeGarafolo reported, JPP seeing Dr. William Meyers in Philly. Preliminary diagnosis is he did not suffer sports hernia. More to come.
But he was already a part of the subpackages which is why he played more.
Wynn is the backup to JPP at LDE and he'll be in the starting line-up Sunday night, although I do agree we'll see everybody on the edge on passing downs
It's Kerry Wynn. Neither "O" can beat out Wynn - that says it all.
What the hell are you talking about? Wynn has gotten the fewest snaps of the 3 all season, even with Owa missing last game and leaving the prior game early due to injury:
Okwara: 181 snaps
Owa: 121 snaps
Wynn: 87 snaps
And before his injury, Owa had played <10-15 fewer snaps than Okwara.
Even looking at this past week's game:
Okwara: 32 snaps
Wynn: 25 snaps
JPP: 32 snaps before injury
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 36m36 minutes ago
Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul is in Philly today to see noted surgeon William Meyers regarding his groin injury, sources say.
take into account OO and Okwara playing DT in the subpackages too. Wynn is the pure backup at LDE to JPP.
anyone care to make a wager on who replaces him in the base package Sunday night? I'd be happy to take someone's $$$. You can pay me over the smart phone. Anybody?
AP went to the same surgeon. He had surgery AFTER the season he won his MVP. I know he's a freak, but if he can be the NFL MVP then this whole groin thing seems a little overblown.
that after being shown to be a fraud numerous times, you'd learn.
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take into account OO and Okwara playing DT in the subpackages too. Wynn is the pure backup at LDE to JPP.
anyone care to make a wager on who replaces him in the base package Sunday night? I'd be happy to take someone's $$$. You can pay me over the smart phone. Anybody?
But it is like you double, triple and quadruple down on acting like an insider.
We know this story and it ends up with you looking like a horse's ass. My condolences to the horse, of course.
The team obviously have their doctors, trainers, specialists, and probably many agreements with different medical establishments.
But when a player seeks additional advise, outside the teams circle, does he pay for it.
This may not be the case with JPP, the doctor he's seeing may be part of the Giants/league network. But for some odd reason, the question popped into my mind.
For all we know, the groin surgeon is a friend of JPPs and
I've had the sports hernia surgery from Dr. Myers before. He does like 10 of them a day and has worked with many professional athletes (at $30k a pop - at least thats what it cost 10 years ago). Heath Miller, D. McNabb amoung others.
If he does get this surgery, its not the end of his season necessarily, but probably the end of the regular season for him. Also, its not a hernia. It just happens to have a lot of the same symptoms. Its more like a tear in your lower ab. He told me he wishes there was a better name for it.
I would guess Area Junc is right about the base package.
The team obviously have their doctors, trainers, specialists, and probably many agreements with different medical establishments.
But when a player seeks additional advise, outside the teams circle, does he pay for it.
This may not be the case with JPP, the doctor he's seeing may be part of the Giants/league network. But for some odd reason, the question popped into my mind.
is like the inventor of the "sports hernia." I talked to some people about going to him, he seemed like a cut first kind of guy, but I am not going to get the same level of attention as JPP. FWIW, I think he did more than one surgery on John Abraham.
Had to be JPP anyways you can put whoever in but there
are very few if any DE playing the way JPP is now .
Really a big blow Vs Dallas I doubt we see him for at least
three weeks ...damn it ..
When the Giant training staff starts saying "the injury is day to day" what usually comes next is the announcement that surgery is needed and the players season is over. The post was my poor attempt at being facetious.
i am usually optimistic to, so my optimistic view is he is going to see this doctor to see if he cant pit off surgery and somehow still play
Him not returning was a pretty good indication he's dealing with a pull or worse.
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doesn't mean he will have it, but it means its bad enough to get another opinion. I'm usually optimistic on injuries since we don't have all the details, but i'm bracing for him being shut down for the season. I don't think we can get to the post season without him.
i am usually optimistic to, so my optimistic view is he is going to see this doctor to see if he cant pit off surgery and somehow still play
He's definitely the type of guy that would play through it if he could. But he'll be almost useless if its a really bad strain, atleast in the short term. He's also got his contract to think about and I think he's done enough this year to get close to top dollar. Not saying that's his sole driver or anything, but its a factor worth noting.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz
Confirming @MikeGarafolo report, JPP is in Philly to see sports hernia specialist. Belief is injury can be rehabbed and treated w/o surgery.
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He's definitely the type of guy that would play through it if he could. But he'll be almost useless if its a really bad strain, atleast in the short term. He's also got his contract to think about and I think he's done enough this year to get close to top dollar. Not saying that's his sole driver or anything, but its a factor worth noting.
The flip side is that a dominant playoff performance (see Von Miller/Malik Jackson) could boost the contract value. Von Miller was certainly getting top dollar before the postseason, but he took it to another level. I don't think Jackson was a $14M/season player before the playoffs.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz
Confirming @MikeGarafolo report, JPP is in Philly to see sports hernia specialist. Belief is injury can be rehabbed and treated w/o surgery.
Wait, now it's a hernia?
Ffs, can we have a correct diagnosis.
Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul is in Philly today to see noted surgeon William Meyers regarding his groin injury, sources say.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo
Pierre-Paul's visit to Meyers doesn't necessarily mean surgery. Meyers is known for his work with what many call sports hernias.
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Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz
Confirming @MikeGarafolo report, JPP is in Philly to see sports hernia specialist. Belief is injury can be rehabbed and treated w/o surgery.
Wait, now it's a hernia?
Ffs, can we have a correct diagnosis.
the doctor is known as a hernia specialist but they dont know what the injury is
People go to back surgeons all the time for an opinion on back pain, doesn't mean everyone is ready to get or needs back surgery. These athletes have instant access to every type of doctor their is, why wouldn't they get multiple opinions?
In sum, wait for more info, can be anything.
but wants to be sure what the risk is .
If he id done then we won't make the run we liked to see
your not gonna replace what he does for the defense .
Odi has done nothing and is banged up Okwara looks like
a guy that will develop but in no way will he even
come close to what JPP is right now .
@Edwerderespn
As @MikeGarafolo reported, JPP seeing Dr. William Meyers in Philly. Preliminary diagnosis is he did not suffer sports hernia. More to come.
I thought Okarwa played well sunday. At least he didn't stand out as being a liability
two but was ok ... Hope for the best ...
Okwara got more snaps then Wynn
Romeo Okwara and Kerry Wynn played 32 and 25 snaps respectively, and both players recorded a pair of tackles.
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Wynn is the backup to JPP at LDE and he'll be in the starting line-up Sunday night, although I do agree we'll see everybody on the edge on passing downs
What the hell are you talking about? Wynn has gotten the fewest snaps of the 3 all season, even with Owa missing last game and leaving the prior game early due to injury:
Okwara: 181 snaps
Owa: 121 snaps
Wynn: 87 snaps
And before his injury, Owa had played <10-15 fewer snaps than Okwara.
Even looking at this past week's game:
Okwara: 32 snaps
Wynn: 25 snaps
JPP: 32 snaps before injury
of bed and get more pressure than our current backups ..
Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul is in Philly today to see noted surgeon William Meyers regarding his groin injury, sources say.
In....Philly?
I think he will do very well with the increase reps.
anyone care to make a wager on who replaces him in the base package Sunday night? I'd be happy to take someone's $$$. You can pay me over the smart phone. Anybody?
area junc : 1:17 pm : link : reply
take into account OO and Okwara playing DT in the subpackages too. Wynn is the pure backup at LDE to JPP.
anyone care to make a wager on who replaces him in the base package Sunday night? I'd be happy to take someone's $$$. You can pay me over the smart phone. Anybody?
But it is like you double, triple and quadruple down on acting like an insider.
We know this story and it ends up with you looking like a horse's ass. My condolences to the horse, of course.
Or do you want to tell us who is in base packages and not some more?
The team obviously have their doctors, trainers, specialists, and probably many agreements with different medical establishments.
But when a player seeks additional advise, outside the teams circle, does he pay for it.
This may not be the case with JPP, the doctor he's seeing may be part of the Giants/league network. But for some odd reason, the question popped into my mind.
Let's hope JPP heals and this whole discussion becomes moot.
If he does get this surgery, its not the end of his season necessarily, but probably the end of the regular season for him. Also, its not a hernia. It just happens to have a lot of the same symptoms. Its more like a tear in your lower ab. He told me he wishes there was a better name for it.
Let's hope JPP heals and this whole discussion becomes moot.
I'd 100% sign up for day to day, not sure what you mean.
Check it out, informative. I have been hearing this for a
couple years or so now, didn't think there was a difference.
What circumstance would a player suffer an on field/in game injury where the cost would not be borne by the team in seeking another opinion
Not picking on you. Just seems so random a question. NYG is like a gazillion dollar biz. Not like Mara is gonna worry if this guy is in network
In comment 13251883 GloryDayz said:
The team obviously have their doctors, trainers, specialists, and probably many agreements with different medical establishments.
But when a player seeks additional advise, outside the teams circle, does he pay for it.
This may not be the case with JPP, the doctor he's seeing may be part of the Giants/league network. But for some odd reason, the question popped into my mind.
are very few if any DE playing the way JPP is now .
Really a big blow Vs Dallas I doubt we see him for at least
three weeks ...damn it ..