I still can't believe that is all it took to get a deal done for a very affordable Sale. It appears that Moncada will be a stud but there isn't a single sure thing kicked in to that deal. WS have been hurting for an OFer for a while and I would have thought Bradley or Benintendi would have been the second piece.
Sale isn't a sure thing but no starter is. You do need them to win though and this was a solid move by the R-Sox. I wonder if we will ever get word on the potential deal with the Nationals for Sale.
You need them to win for sure, but you also need sustained success. I had thought that the Red Sox (and Yankees for that matter) had moved beyond the 80's/90's philosophy of draining the systems for guys with names.
The Red Sox have youth/long-term contracts all over the diamond. Betts, JBJ, Benintendi, Bogaerts, E-rod, Swihart (the latter two have some proving to do and JBJ not exactly young at 26/27, but not old).
Still have Devers and Groome + in the minors.
and long-term Price (opt out not withstanding), Porcello, Sale, Kimbrel, Pedroia, Porcello, Hanley, etc.
why not "go for it"?
They added Sale and Thornburg to a 93-win team. Pending other moves this winter they have to be considered WS favorites.
I'm really crying over this deal (not). Loss of Kopeck in particular is painful. Moncada really doesn't have a position if you expect the Panda to play 3B, so he's still an incredibly talented developmental prospect, but not as "ripe" as Benintendi.
Sale, Price, and Porcello looks like a pretty darn good top-three, but you never really know how any of these guys are going to work out. He could win the Cy Young and be the World Series MVP or he could blow out his elbow before the season ever starts. Let's see what happens.
the Red Sox are clearly a juggernaut, but a lot can happen between Spring Training and champagne popping. I assume that this will blow up in Boston's face not because I hate Boston, though I do, but because only Dombrowski could manage to parlay a Top 5 farm system in baseball and a dynamic young team into an October disappointment on an annual basis.
Going
Out
Of
Business.
You were close.
And I still adhere to 'they can't develop pitchers'. And Mgr Farrell, who was a mistake to keep IMHO, really could not get Price corrected last year, while it took Pedroia to figure out ERodwas tipping off his pitchers(when your mgr WAS a pitching coach).
And as someone said, Sale of 15/16 was not the Sale of 12/13. Plus they WILL miss DO, and the crowd getting the team pumped when he came to bat, especially in a clutch situation.
I'm really crying over this deal (not). Loss of Kopeck in particular is painful. Moncada really doesn't have a position if you expect the Panda to play 3B, so he's still an incredibly talented developmental prospect, but not as "ripe" as Benintendi.
Sale, Price, and Porcello looks like a pretty darn good top-three, but you never really know how any of these guys are going to work out. He could win the Cy Young and be the World Series MVP or he could blow out his elbow before the season ever starts. Let's see what happens.
Moncada doesn't have a position because of Panda. That's like a Yankees fan saying Gleyber Torres doesn't have a spot because of Headley. Crazy talk. When these kids are ready, you give the boot to these average, overrated, old players.
I'm really crying over this deal (not). Loss of Kopeck in particular is painful. Moncada really doesn't have a position if you expect the Panda to play 3B, so he's still an incredibly talented developmental prospect, but not as "ripe" as Benintendi.
Sale, Price, and Porcello looks like a pretty darn good top-three, but you never really know how any of these guys are going to work out. He could win the Cy Young and be the World Series MVP or he could blow out his elbow before the season ever starts. Let's see what happens.
Moncada doesn't have a position because of Panda. That's like a Yankees fan saying Gleyber Torres doesn't have a spot because of Headley. Crazy talk. When these kids are ready, you give the boot to these average, overrated, old players.
moncada would not have played next year. He simply isn't ready. And that's what his abysmal failures versus curveballs show... not that he isn't good enough, not that he's flawed, not that you can't trust him going forward....it's that he's young and inexperienced and still has learning to do. But that's okay. It's foolish and a recipe for long-term failure to say that he can't help us come April so let's get rid of him. Same for Espinoza, Margot, Or even Anthony Rizzo. The club goes beyond next year. It's a shame that Dombrowski's vision does not.
I still can't believe that is all it took to get a deal done for a very affordable Sale. It appears that Moncada will be a stud but there isn't a single sure thing kicked in to that deal. WS have been hurting for an OFer for a while and I would have thought Bradley or Benintendi would have been the second piece.
Sale isn't a sure thing but no starter is. You do need them to win though and this was a solid move by the R-Sox. I wonder if we will ever get word on the potential deal with the Nationals for Sale.
You need them to win for sure, but you also need sustained success. I had thought that the Red Sox (and Yankees for that matter) had moved beyond the 80's/90's philosophy of draining the systems for guys with names.
The Red Sox have youth/long-term contracts all over the diamond. Betts, JBJ, Benintendi, Bogaerts, E-rod, Swihart (the latter two have some proving to do and JBJ not exactly young at 26/27, but not old).
Still have Devers and Groome + in the minors.
and long-term Price (opt out not withstanding), Porcello, Sale, Kimbrel, Pedroia, Porcello, Hanley, etc.
why not "go for it"?
They added Sale and Thornburg to a 93-win team. Pending other moves this winter they have to be considered WS favorites.
WS favorites? I don't see how they are appreciably better than the Cubs, Mets with a healthy rotation, or the Rangers. There is a lot of parity in the league and with injuries the magical equalizer, there is no favorite to win next year.
Looked like a deer in the headlights when he was called up. He even got caught napping once on base thinking there were 3 outs when there were only 2. He cannot hit a major league curve ball. He is nowhere near major league ready and the Sandoval excuse as to having no position is BS. Sandoval was out all year and Moncada was given the opportunity to play 3B. He looked very pedestrian defensively. It is possible he will be another Rusney Castillo.
Looked like a deer in the headlights when he was called up. He even got caught napping once on base thinking there were 3 outs when there were only 2. He cannot hit a major league curve ball. He is nowhere near major league ready and the Sandoval excuse as to having no position is BS. Sandoval was out all year and Moncada was given the opportunity to play 3B. He looked very pedestrian defensively. It is possible he will be another Rusney Castillo.
Moncada skipped AAA (for some reason). He remains a supreme talent. Doesn't mean he won't bust, but a bad cup of coffee in the bigs doesn't tell me that will happen.
must mean the Sox can't win next season b/c of last. You can learn a lot from a12 year old when you have the mentality of a six year old.
First off... get your sports right
We are talking MLB not NFL.
Second I am stating a fact the Red Sox with all their hubris last year and Popi's going away season Did Bumpkis!
Shit the bed! Folded like a wet noodle, Screwed the Pooch.
Didn't show up, fucked the dog, etc
Not one Game won in the post season.(ESPN was crushed)
So excuse me if getting Sale (not the Sale of years ago) all of a sudden makes the media want to put this team in the World Series is bullshit! Indians Rangers, Orioles,Royals might have something to say about it. Besides
the National League has the Cubs,Mets,Nats Dodgers and few other teams that are better and don't play in Little league Parks.(That Wall produces a lot of their offense)
So Redsox fans should take the humility and the shit sandwich the Indians gave them and put away the bragging till at-least this years team does something.
There now do you get it or do we need sock puppets?
I think though he might have been the type that was intimidated to play in Boston. Not saying he would fail but I think he stands a better chance of succeeding in Chicago. The Boston media is absolutely brutal on their athletes. As tough as Yankee fans and media can be on them, they don't come close to the scrutiny the Boston media puts them through. And Sox are far from depleting their farm system. Yes, it took a hit.
aimed at anyone in particular but man are people impatient. I saw 2 different people make the claim Buxton is a "bust" (1 called him a bust, 1 gave a trade proposal that was absurdly in the Mets favor).
Buxton will be all of 23 years old this season, 92 games this season 1.7 fWAR, career +7 DRS in CF, 114 wRC+ second half, .344 wOBA. Kid has all of the talent to not just be good, but be an absolute star. He was rushed to the bigs
It was a top 5 system a year ago.. I'd be shocked if it wasn't bottom 20% right now. I think they've lost something no like their top 8 players from a year ago and really only have Devers and groome of consequence right now.
Davis Dumb is not great at acquiring pitching,overpays, and they have been dumping prospects for a few years like it was a true GOOB sale.If they knew how to develop pitching
Did a pretty good job getting Fullmer from the Mets
You have got to be kidding, right? They fucking got Cespedes!
You do that trade 100 out of 100 times.
Thats not the point. This isn't about the Mets. We're talking about Dombrowski. He knew he was out the door in Detroit at the time. And still got max value for a player that could walk at the end of the season. He could have got lesser and not gave a shit.
And folks are ready to give up on him based on his k rates in a cup of coffee. Don't get me wrong, sometimes folks get more leash than they deserve because they are, or were, top prospects, but by and large the problem is impatience.
2 top 10 prospects vs #1 and #30? Then again, I guess we don't know what the Nats really offered.
Would you give Torres and Frzier + for Sale? Most probably would, I'm not so sure.
I wouldn't, Jim. We need impact positional players just as much as pitching, and Torres seems like one in the making, with Frazier a bit more of a question mark -- but I wouldn't bet against him as a middle of the order bat down the line. Now, Judge and Severino as the highlights of a trade I'd go for, since both are a bit hit or miss, despite the potential.
Had no idea who Thornburg was, but he sure has nice stats at
Milwaukee. It just goes to show you how deep their system was. As much as we Yankees fan like to joke how ESPN overhypes the Sox's system, apparently other GM's like their prospects just as much.
Instead of knee-jerk reactions, and I really hope Cash doesn't do anything stupid after the Red Sox = Warriors comment, the Yanks should look at how the Sox built up their minor league system in the past few years and not try to make a splash now.
I see nothing wrong with the Cashman Warriors comment, if you read the whole article it's not that far off, and don't forget it was Larry Lucchino who dubbed the Yankees the "evil empire" after Contreras selected the Yankees over the Red Sox, and the media thought that was cute.
I see nothing wrong with the Cashman Warriors comment, if you read the whole article it's not that far off, and don't forget it was Larry Lucchino who dubbed the Yankees the "evil empire" after Contreras selected the Yankees over the Red Sox, and the media thought that was cute.
I don't know if it's quite the same as the Warriors or Evil Empire. In both those cases, it was a the flexing of financial power. Actually, I'm not sure what drove Durant; it wasn't only money but basketball better allows for a superstar to get a bunch of his superstar friends to get together and form a band. Evil Empire of NY versus Boston was purely who could outspend the other though. In this case, there is the sacrifice of assets to acquire a different asset. Money indirectly (or directly in the case of Moncada) does drive some of it, but there is a strong component of drafting, building and development as well. It's not just purely purchasing someone. I wish it was, though, because then I could support acquiring Sale.
I see nothing wrong with the Cashman Warriors comment, if you read the whole article it's not that far off, and don't forget it was Larry Lucchino who dubbed the Yankees the "evil empire" after Contreras selected the Yankees over the Red Sox, and the media thought that was cute.
I don't know if it's quite the same as the Warriors or Evil Empire. In both those cases, it was a the flexing of financial power. Actually, I'm not sure what drove Durant; it wasn't only money but basketball better allows for a superstar to get a bunch of his superstar friends to get together and form a band. Evil Empire of NY versus Boston was purely who could outspend the other though. In this case, there is the sacrifice of assets to acquire a different asset. Money indirectly (or directly in the case of Moncada) does drive some of it, but there is a strong component of drafting, building and development as well. It's not just purely purchasing someone. I wish it was, though, because then I could support acquiring Sale.
I don't think he meant purely Sale or even money. but the $$ is relevant: Price, Moncada, Hanley, Sandoval, etc. the Red Sox have become everything they railed against.
And it rang hollow to me anyway when the Red Sox complained about the Yankees spending because at the time, 28 other teams had lower payrolls than the Red Sox. It was only the Yankees, 1 team, higher than them.
In either case I don't think it was purely related to Sale and free agents. It was the collection of players and the pressure on the roster to win.
Read the article on ESPN I won't link it because I hate them, but it's there.
Red Sox payroll is over $200M, with arbitration it's projected to be $210M.
will deal "something" for Buchholz. The pitching market is/was awful and he's "only" owed 13.5 and plays for a team that clearly is willing to eat some money. I'm not saying they get some boffo return but 13-15 392 innings 3.28 FIP. The Marlins just gave Volquez 22 million.
He's been really bad in two of the past three seasons
And he only made 18 starts in the other one. Basically, his pattern is he misses half the season if he's pitching well, and if he stays healthy then he sucks. He turns 33 next season.
And he only made 18 starts in the other one. Basically, his pattern is he misses half the season if he's pitching well, and if he stays healthy then he sucks. He turns 33 next season.
Greg,
I'm not suggesting he's good or that he brings back some beast return. Rather, guys like Volquez (jumping the market no less) got 22 million and with so many teams looking for SP, I suspect there will be a team that "takes a shot" on him being solid for 1 year.
???
They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
So, football season is 3/4 of the way over, Dallas has lost one game, and baseball season hasn't even started yet. Boston has won zero. Nice comparison. Way to make a point.
was banished to the bullpen last year for being so bad.
He did regain his starters role in September - really due to the knuckleballers injury - and pitched reasonably well, and he may very well get moved in a salary dump but he's not a reliable starter.
???
They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
So, football season is 3/4 of the way over, Dallas has lost one game, and baseball season hasn't even started yet. Boston has won zero. Nice comparison. Way to make a point.
Give yourself a A skippy for showing up to class,
Looks like the Davis-Soler trade is final, awaiting physicals.
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more pieces to put together a move for cutch.
I still can't believe that is all it took to get a deal done for a very affordable Sale. It appears that Moncada will be a stud but there isn't a single sure thing kicked in to that deal. WS have been hurting for an OFer for a while and I would have thought Bradley or Benintendi would have been the second piece.
Sale isn't a sure thing but no starter is. You do need them to win though and this was a solid move by the R-Sox. I wonder if we will ever get word on the potential deal with the Nationals for Sale.
You need them to win for sure, but you also need sustained success. I had thought that the Red Sox (and Yankees for that matter) had moved beyond the 80's/90's philosophy of draining the systems for guys with names.
The Red Sox have youth/long-term contracts all over the diamond. Betts, JBJ, Benintendi, Bogaerts, E-rod, Swihart (the latter two have some proving to do and JBJ not exactly young at 26/27, but not old).
Still have Devers and Groome + in the minors.
and long-term Price (opt out not withstanding), Porcello, Sale, Kimbrel, Pedroia, Porcello, Hanley, etc.
why not "go for it"?
They added Sale and Thornburg to a 93-win team. Pending other moves this winter they have to be considered WS favorites.
Or..At the very least Win a Post Season Game!
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Me neither he is going to be a superstar. .342/.370/.567 batting line for a rookie is just incredible.
How about Gary .299/.376/.657 Sanchez ain't too shabby either.
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Mets have talked to Royals, but it's hard to see a fit for Wade Davis in prospects and $.
Sale, Price, and Porcello looks like a pretty darn good top-three, but you never really know how any of these guys are going to work out. He could win the Cy Young and be the World Series MVP or he could blow out his elbow before the season ever starts. Let's see what happens.
Don't tell Andy Pettite, Bruce Hurst, Ron Guidry or Jon Lester that
They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Out
Of
Business.
You were close.
And I still adhere to 'they can't develop pitchers'. And Mgr Farrell, who was a mistake to keep IMHO, really could not get Price corrected last year, while it took Pedroia to figure out ERodwas tipping off his pitchers(when your mgr WAS a pitching coach).
And as someone said, Sale of 15/16 was not the Sale of 12/13. Plus they WILL miss DO, and the crowd getting the team pumped when he came to bat, especially in a clutch situation.
They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
Sale, Price, and Porcello looks like a pretty darn good top-three, but you never really know how any of these guys are going to work out. He could win the Cy Young and be the World Series MVP or he could blow out his elbow before the season ever starts. Let's see what happens.
Moncada doesn't have a position because of Panda. That's like a Yankees fan saying Gleyber Torres doesn't have a spot because of Headley. Crazy talk. When these kids are ready, you give the boot to these average, overrated, old players.
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I'm really crying over this deal (not). Loss of Kopeck in particular is painful. Moncada really doesn't have a position if you expect the Panda to play 3B, so he's still an incredibly talented developmental prospect, but not as "ripe" as Benintendi.
Sale, Price, and Porcello looks like a pretty darn good top-three, but you never really know how any of these guys are going to work out. He could win the Cy Young and be the World Series MVP or he could blow out his elbow before the season ever starts. Let's see what happens.
Moncada doesn't have a position because of Panda. That's like a Yankees fan saying Gleyber Torres doesn't have a spot because of Headley. Crazy talk. When these kids are ready, you give the boot to these average, overrated, old players.
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They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
I am sorry what does a football team have to do with a baseball team that folded like the deck chairs of the Titanic in the post season?
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They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
I am sorry what does a football team have to do with a baseball team that folded like the deck chairs of the Titanic in the post season?
You are sorry
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They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
I am sorry what does a football team have to do with a baseball team that folded like the deck chairs of the Titanic in the post season?
You are sorry
Wow fantastic rebuttle. What are about 12?
The Redsox shit the bed last season! face it. They couldn't win ONE game.
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more pieces to put together a move for cutch.
I still can't believe that is all it took to get a deal done for a very affordable Sale. It appears that Moncada will be a stud but there isn't a single sure thing kicked in to that deal. WS have been hurting for an OFer for a while and I would have thought Bradley or Benintendi would have been the second piece.
Sale isn't a sure thing but no starter is. You do need them to win though and this was a solid move by the R-Sox. I wonder if we will ever get word on the potential deal with the Nationals for Sale.
You need them to win for sure, but you also need sustained success. I had thought that the Red Sox (and Yankees for that matter) had moved beyond the 80's/90's philosophy of draining the systems for guys with names.
The Red Sox have youth/long-term contracts all over the diamond. Betts, JBJ, Benintendi, Bogaerts, E-rod, Swihart (the latter two have some proving to do and JBJ not exactly young at 26/27, but not old).
Still have Devers and Groome + in the minors.
and long-term Price (opt out not withstanding), Porcello, Sale, Kimbrel, Pedroia, Porcello, Hanley, etc.
why not "go for it"?
They added Sale and Thornburg to a 93-win team. Pending other moves this winter they have to be considered WS favorites.
WS favorites? I don't see how they are appreciably better than the Cubs, Mets with a healthy rotation, or the Rangers. There is a lot of parity in the league and with injuries the magical equalizer, there is no favorite to win next year.
Moncada skipped AAA (for some reason). He remains a supreme talent. Doesn't mean he won't bust, but a bad cup of coffee in the bigs doesn't tell me that will happen.
First off... get your sports right
We are talking MLB not NFL.
Second I am stating a fact the Red Sox with all their hubris last year and Popi's going away season Did Bumpkis!
Shit the bed! Folded like a wet noodle, Screwed the Pooch.
Didn't show up, fucked the dog, etc
Not one Game won in the post season.(ESPN was crushed)
So excuse me if getting Sale (not the Sale of years ago) all of a sudden makes the media want to put this team in the World Series is bullshit! Indians Rangers, Orioles,Royals might have something to say about it. Besides
the National League has the Cubs,Mets,Nats Dodgers and few other teams that are better and don't play in Little league Parks.(That Wall produces a lot of their offense)
So Redsox fans should take the humility and the shit sandwich the Indians gave them and put away the bragging till at-least this years team does something.
There now do you get it or do we need sock puppets?
Well just a couple special Milk Shakes from the DR and he could play another 10 years in that little league park.
Buxton will be all of 23 years old this season, 92 games this season 1.7 fWAR, career +7 DRS in CF, 114 wRC+ second half, .344 wOBA. Kid has all of the talent to not just be good, but be an absolute star. He was rushed to the bigs
87 games in A+
60 in AA
62 in AAA
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Davis Dumb is not great at acquiring pitching,overpays, and they have been dumping prospects for a few years like it was a true GOOB sale.If they knew how to develop pitching
Did a pretty good job getting Fullmer from the Mets
You have got to be kidding, right? They fucking got Cespedes!
You do that trade 100 out of 100 times.
Thats not the point. This isn't about the Mets. We're talking about Dombrowski. He knew he was out the door in Detroit at the time. And still got max value for a player that could walk at the end of the season. He could have got lesser and not gave a shit.
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They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
I am sorry what does a football team have to do with a baseball team that folded like the deck chairs of the Titanic in the post season?
You are sorry
Wow fantastic rebuttle. What are about 12?
The Redsox shit the bed last season! face it. They couldn't win ONE game.
But at least the Red Sox weren't home playing golf like the Yankees
Would you give Torres and Frzier + for Sale? Most probably would, I'm not so sure.
Would you give Torres and Frzier + for Sale? Most probably would, I'm not so sure.
I wouldn't, Jim. We need impact positional players just as much as pitching, and Torres seems like one in the making, with Frazier a bit more of a question mark -- but I wouldn't bet against him as a middle of the order bat down the line. Now, Judge and Severino as the highlights of a trade I'd go for, since both are a bit hit or miss, despite the potential.
Instead of knee-jerk reactions, and I really hope Cash doesn't do anything stupid after the Red Sox = Warriors comment, the Yanks should look at how the Sox built up their minor league system in the past few years and not try to make a splash now.
Just remember we are looking towards the future.
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wouldn't have parted with Turner.
Me neither he is going to be a superstar. .342/.370/.567 batting line for a rookie is just incredible.
How about Gary .299/.376/.657 Sanchez ain't too shabby either.
I can't argue with you Sanchez was fantastic as well.
I don't know if it's quite the same as the Warriors or Evil Empire. In both those cases, it was a the flexing of financial power. Actually, I'm not sure what drove Durant; it wasn't only money but basketball better allows for a superstar to get a bunch of his superstar friends to get together and form a band. Evil Empire of NY versus Boston was purely who could outspend the other though. In this case, there is the sacrifice of assets to acquire a different asset. Money indirectly (or directly in the case of Moncada) does drive some of it, but there is a strong component of drafting, building and development as well. It's not just purely purchasing someone. I wish it was, though, because then I could support acquiring Sale.
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I see nothing wrong with the Cashman Warriors comment, if you read the whole article it's not that far off, and don't forget it was Larry Lucchino who dubbed the Yankees the "evil empire" after Contreras selected the Yankees over the Red Sox, and the media thought that was cute.
I don't know if it's quite the same as the Warriors or Evil Empire. In both those cases, it was a the flexing of financial power. Actually, I'm not sure what drove Durant; it wasn't only money but basketball better allows for a superstar to get a bunch of his superstar friends to get together and form a band. Evil Empire of NY versus Boston was purely who could outspend the other though. In this case, there is the sacrifice of assets to acquire a different asset. Money indirectly (or directly in the case of Moncada) does drive some of it, but there is a strong component of drafting, building and development as well. It's not just purely purchasing someone. I wish it was, though, because then I could support acquiring Sale.
I don't think he meant purely Sale or even money. but the $$ is relevant: Price, Moncada, Hanley, Sandoval, etc. the Red Sox have become everything they railed against.
And it rang hollow to me anyway when the Red Sox complained about the Yankees spending because at the time, 28 other teams had lower payrolls than the Red Sox. It was only the Yankees, 1 team, higher than them.
In either case I don't think it was purely related to Sale and free agents. It was the collection of players and the pressure on the roster to win.
Read the article on ESPN I won't link it because I hate them, but it's there.
Red Sox payroll is over $200M, with arbitration it's projected to be $210M.
Absolutely no one is trading anything for Clay Buchholz. He's awful, he's always injured, and he's past thirty.
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Odds are they trade Buchholz or Pomerantz for some young talent or picks. May help to lessen some of the mid range losses (not Moncada or Kopech).
Absolutely no one is trading anything for Clay Buchholz. He's awful, he's always injured, and he's past thirty.
and he looks like a meth addict.
2011 - 124 ERA+, 14 starts
2012 - 92 ERA+, 29 starts
2013 - 237 ERA+, 16 starts ..... that fucking fluke Sawx season
2014 - 75 ERA+, 28 starts
2015 - 132 ERA+, 18 starts
2016 - 95 ERA+, 37 starts
2011 - 124 ERA+, 14 starts
2012 - 92 ERA+, 29 starts
2013 - 237 ERA+, 16 starts ..... that fucking fluke Sawx season
2014 - 75 ERA+, 28 starts
2015 - 132 ERA+, 18 starts
2016 - 95 ERA+, 37 starts
Greg,
I'm not suggesting he's good or that he brings back some beast return. Rather, guys like Volquez (jumping the market no less) got 22 million and with so many teams looking for SP, I suspect there will be a team that "takes a shot" on him being solid for 1 year.
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They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
So, football season is 3/4 of the way over, Dallas has lost one game, and baseball season hasn't even started yet. Boston has won zero. Nice comparison. Way to make a point.
He did regain his starters role in September - really due to the knuckleballers injury - and pitched reasonably well, and he may very well get moved in a salary dump but he's not a reliable starter.
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They won as many post season games last year as the Rays.
Must mean the Dallas Cowboys aren't good this year b/c they weren't last year too right? Way to make a point
So, football season is 3/4 of the way over, Dallas has lost one game, and baseball season hasn't even started yet. Boston has won zero. Nice comparison. Way to make a point.
Give yourself a A skippy for showing up to class,