Jackson criticized Anthony for being a ball stopper in an interview with CBS Sports Network Tuesday. The timing was curious since the Knicks had won four in a row before last night’s loss to Cleveland, and Anthony had been playing well.
“I don’t even know what was said to be honest with you,” Anthony said. “I just don’t even want to talk about that, what he’s talking about exactly. I want to stay away from that at this point. My focus is my teammates and winning. We’ve been playing great basketball and that’s the only thing I’m focused on.
“Whatever Phil said he said it. I have nothing to say about that.”
When Anthony was first asked about it, he uncharacteristically abruptly ended the interview.
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and this is the last time I bother with this... it's a pattern with Phil Jackson. It wasn't one random "slip up". He likes to talk, a whole lot.
but we knew this when he was hired, did anyone really think it would change?
This should be Jeff Hornacek's team. The message, image etc should be coming from him. When things get tough (if they do) he should be the focus, he should be the leader not Phil Jackson occasionally deciding he's not getting enough attention.
what other team president or executive does something like "The Phil Jackson Chronicles"? This has nothing to do with reporters or him being famous - it's him purposely putting out into the media what should be private thoughts and criticisms on ACTIVE players via his personal hand picked media buddy. It's absurd.
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is high profile like Jackson and has reporters constantly in their face?
and why would you keep locked up in his offense, you have one of the greatest coaching minds in the game, why would you not use it if hornacek is ok with it?
Cideas that Phil Jackson has implemented (For the record, I do agree Phil is one of the greatest coaches in sports history) but no, I don't think Phil talking about holding the ball too long is something you need to be a genius coach to know.
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the East is awful. The Jazz are 14-9 despite Hayward missing 6 games and they are the 7 seed in the West, they would be the 3 seed in the East
They've also been missing Favors for half of their games and the ones he's played he's been on minutes restriction.
Feel bad for the clips. If they were in the east I'd have to think they could've cracked the finals one or twice over the last 6 years.
If the Jazz had any chance of reeling in FA's they would be really dangerous. I don't think they could beat the Warriors but I also don't think the Warriors would love seeing the Jazz in a series.
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is high profile like Jackson and has reporters constantly in their face?
what other team president or executive does something like "The Phil Jackson Chronicles"? This has nothing to do with reporters or him being famous - it's him purposely putting out into the media what should be private thoughts and criticisms on ACTIVE players via his personal hand picked media buddy. It's absurd.
again this is nothing new with phil jackson, why do people think it would be any different as team president
It's bad for Phil to say what 90% of the Knicks fan base says on a daily basis?
Let's assume that Phil wants Melo to lessen the ball stopping stuff just a bit. Let's also assume Phil and the coaching have asked Melo to stop this for some time now. Why is it wrong of Phil to go public?
Who cares? Is this going to make Melo into a shittier player? Doubtful.
As long as the replacement doesn't fuck up what the Knicks have built here. BE careful what you wish for. Phil might not be likable but the team finally has some kind of talent base to work with.
Why does it bother some of you so much when someone talks to the media? I just don't get it. Never will.
It's bad for Phil to say what 90% of the Knicks fan base says on a daily basis?
Let's assume that Phil wants Melo to lessen the ball stopping stuff just a bit. Let's also assume Phil and the coaching have asked Melo to stop this for some time now. Why is it wrong of Phil to go public?
Who cares? Is this going to make Melo into a shittier player? Doubtful.
Carmelo Anthony has heard this his ENTIRE career. Phil Jackson saying it to a media outlet will have ZERO impact on Melo changing his game. Zero point zero.
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is high profile like Jackson and has reporters constantly in their face?
what other team president or executive does something like "The Phil Jackson Chronicles"? This has nothing to do with reporters or him being famous - it's him purposely putting out into the media what should be private thoughts and criticisms on ACTIVE players via his personal hand picked media buddy. It's absurd.
again this is nothing new with phil jackson, why do people think it would be any different as team president
if he had the equivalent of his own personal blog while he was a coach I'm not aware of it. Speaking candidly in interviews when questioned is one thing. He's volunteering this information for no particular reason.
yes, we sure don't want another guy to come in and stop signing injury prone vets on the wrong side of 30 to 4 year deals! Can't have that!
BBI, OTOH, is something else. A week ago, all the Knicks game threads consisted of 75% complaints about Carmelo Anthony. I can't even read Knickerblogger anymore because it's "Melo Complaint Percentage" is bordering 90%. I read a newspaper article about how fans at the Garden were "groaning" when Melo went one on one. Phil says the exact same shit a lot of Knicks fans (not me, BTW) say incessantly, but now he needs to shut up?
Glad I am not alone. Some of you are truly hilarious. You monday morning QB every single comment that comes out of Phil's mouth and get all worked up about it.
But he's the GM and shouldn't be talking to the media at all...i get it...whatever. Means nothing other than poor poor Melo got his feelings hurt again. maybe melo isn't listening to the coaching? What if that's the case?
When is it ok for the GM to talk shit about a player? Ever? Never? Then why the hell is he even holding a PC with the media in the first place? 99% of these conferences are filled with dead air and lip service boring bullshit. The guy says something that carries weight and you guys flip out.
Admit it guys...you WANT to hate Phil Jackson. You always have and always will. The second this guy came aboard some of you were sharpening your knives and klling him before his first PC.
that's not fair. Many of us waiting until he starting making dumb moves before killing him.
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he's not good enough at this point in his career that I give a shit if he's pissed about something Phil Jackson said. I simply don't care.
BBI, OTOH, is something else. A week ago, all the Knicks game threads consisted of 75% complaints about Carmelo Anthony. I can't even read Knickerblogger anymore because it's "Melo Complaint Percentage" is bordering 90%. I read a newspaper article about how fans at the Garden were "groaning" when Melo went one on one. Phil says the exact same shit a lot of Knicks fans (not me, BTW) say incessantly, but now he needs to shut up?
Glad I am not alone. Some of you are truly hilarious. You monday morning QB every single comment that comes out of Phil's mouth and get all worked up about it.
But he's the GM and shouldn't be talking to the media at all...i get it...whatever. Means nothing other than poor poor Melo got his feelings hurt again. maybe melo isn't listening to the coaching? What if that's the case?
When is it ok for the GM to talk shit about a player? Ever? Never? Then why the hell is he even holding a PC with the media in the first place? 99% of these conferences are filled with dead air and lip service boring bullshit. The guy says something that carries weight and you guys flip out.
Admit it guys...you WANT to hate Phil Jackson. You always have and always will. The second this guy came aboard some of you were sharpening your knives and klling him before his first PC.
Really dumb
Wasn't aware Denver drafted him. Wow that's a whiff.
Lebron is a child in a grown man's body. His behavior after the cavs won the title was comical at best and closer to pathetic. Carry yourself like the NBA ambassador you're supposed to be and maybe GMs like Phil JAckson won't admonish you in a PC.
Forgot, we're not allowed to talk shit about anyone anymore in public. But if you tweet awful shit and follow through with the obligatory apology all is forgiven? That seems just fine.
Lebron acts like a child. Phil could have shit that was much worse.
So what? If someone has a problem with it they can take it to Phil. He's speaking his mind.
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actually fuck it, I want to be that guy...
It's bad for Phil to say what 90% of the Knicks fan base says on a daily basis?
Let's assume that Phil wants Melo to lessen the ball stopping stuff just a bit. Let's also assume Phil and the coaching have asked Melo to stop this for some time now. Why is it wrong of Phil to go public?
Who cares? Is this going to make Melo into a shittier player? Doubtful.
Carmelo Anthony has heard this his ENTIRE career. Phil Jackson saying it to a media outlet will have ZERO impact on Melo changing his game. Zero point zero.
You don't know that. And even if it's true what harm does this bring? Maybe he's trying to get Melo to waive his NTC..lol.
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-Did not like the Rose trade but didn't think it was a "bad" move
-HATED the Noah signing
- Was fine with the Lee signing (we needed a 2 and the market wasn't very good)
-Liked the Hornacek hire
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As long as the replacement doesn't fuck up what the Knicks have built here.
yes, we sure don't want another guy to come in and stop signing injury prone vets on the wrong side of 30 to 4 year deals! Can't have that!
Right...because he hasn't made about 3-4-5 moves that we all love right now and even Noah played very well two nights ago and might round into form yet. You're act is old. You ignore the facts and hang on your cranky miserable take. Enjoy.
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Admit it guys...you WANT to hate Phil Jackson. You always have and always will. The second this guy came aboard some of you were sharpening your knives and klling him before his first PC.
that's not fair. Many of us waiting until he starting making dumb moves before killing him.
How many dumb moves? Maybe two? Let's allow for Noah since you seem convinced he's hot garbage and always will be never mind that his influence on KP and KOQ seems clear as day...fine...he's shite...and the fisher move? Fine...
What else? The Knicks are light years better today than they were 3 years ago. LIGHT YEARS. And they have space and picks ahead. Thanks. Say no more.
1000% false but nice try. I loved the KP pick, liked the Fisher hire, and have liked roughly 70% of Phil's moves You defended the Knicks having Kurt Rambis coach this team this season, that's all you need to know.
When they win 44 games and position themselves for an even better 2018 campaign we can discuss the progress then. It's a big year for this franchise. IF they crumble...it's on Phil.
that said, he is completely right about Melo. And it is not selfishness, it's just Melo's game. He is a one-on-one iso guy
That being said...he's not the HC.
It's bad for Phil to say what 90% of the Knicks fan base says on a daily basis?
Probably over 50% of the posts on any BBI Knicks game thread are posts criticizing Melo for holding the ball too long, and the crowd at the Garden has been letting him know about it recently, too. Phil is right about it.
Whether he should say it publicly is another matter. Agree with those who say it's the coach's job - and that should be in private as well.
Yea that's really not my point at all Dan. I honestly don't give two fucks about what he did or didn't say. I said IT COULD impact things...didn't say it would. Likely won't...don't care.
I didn't love the move either but it's not going to be a death knell type move like some of you insist. it's 4 not 6 and it's not even max and the guy is a serviceable player. And he's a good locker room guy. I didn't love it...might like to take it back if I could...but it's not terrible and until the Knicks are sinking because of it I won't kill the move.
He looked pretty damn good two nights ago. He needs to play and stay healthy. Kind of a lost first month due to the bug he had and the ankle.
I think I can speak for everybody that if asked to do the phil hire again we all would, whatever warts people think he has. He has implemented a culture changed and saved on draft picks. I don't think any sensible Knicks fan would complain about the direction he has set for this franchise.
Does that mean he's perfect and we have to defend every move he make? No. The most important aspect of the Noah signing is that it locked the roster Phil wants to compete with. This is the team if they stick with rose and Jennings as the backcourt over the next few years (which may be the smart move depending on how the season plays out). But getting blown out on home court by the defending champs shows how far away this roster is from being in the conversation.
The Knicks are light years ahead of where they were 3 years ago but they are light years ahead from being where they want to be. Don't think there's any harm in admitting that. This team will go as far as KP takes it. The onus is on a 21 year old to essentially carry this team since there are few ways to improve this roster in the short term.
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is a close to 0% chance Noah is going to be worth 4 years 72 million barring a body swap. Thomas has played better, Lee has too. Noah is a shell of his former self. He could play better but the contract was a bad move.
I think I can speak for everybody that if asked to do the phil hire again we all would, whatever warts people think he has. He has implemented a culture changed and saved on draft picks. I don't think any sensible Knicks fan would complain about the direction he has set for this franchise.
Does that mean he's perfect and we have to defend every move he make? No. The most important aspect of the Noah signing is that it locked the roster Phil wants to compete with. This is the team if they stick with rose and Jennings as the backcourt over the next few years (which may be the smart move depending on how the season plays out). But getting blown out on home court by the defending champs shows how far away this roster is from being in the conversation.
The Knicks are light years ahead of where they were 3 years ago but they are light years ahead from being where they want to be. Don't think there's any harm in admitting that. This team will go as far as KP takes it. The onus is on a 21 year old to essentially carry this team since there are few ways to improve this roster in the short term.
Great post. My thoughts almost exactly.
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is a close to 0% chance Noah is going to be worth 4 years 72 million barring a body swap. Thomas has played better, Lee has too. Noah is a shell of his former self. He could play better but the contract was a bad move.
I think I can speak for everybody that if asked to do the phil hire again we all would, whatever warts people think he has. He has implemented a culture changed and saved on draft picks. I don't think any sensible Knicks fan would complain about the direction he has set for this franchise.
Does that mean he's perfect and we have to defend every move he make? No. The most important aspect of the Noah signing is that it locked the roster Phil wants to compete with. This is the team if they stick with rose and Jennings as the backcourt over the next few years (which may be the smart move depending on how the season plays out). But getting blown out on home court by the defending champs shows how far away this roster is from being in the conversation.
The Knicks are light years ahead of where they were 3 years ago but they are light years ahead from being where they want to be. Don't think there's any harm in admitting that. This team will go as far as KP takes it. The onus is on a 21 year old to essentially carry this team since there are few ways to improve this roster in the short term.
Phil has done a solid overall job. I'm not arguing otherwise. I just think he should shut up sometimes. Still think the Noah move was a real stinker (and I was a big Noah fan in his prime).
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Well djm claims I hate everything Phil Jackson does and I'm simply going through each move. Yes, I hated the Noah signing but I also liked other moves. I'm not even one of the big time Rose haters (though I'd let him walk), I love KOQ and loved that move (even when he stunk last year) and I love Jennings. This idea I just knock every move Phil Jackson makes is patently false.
Dirk's shooting coach in Germany gave him an open offer to work with him over the summer I believe.
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Admit it guys...you WANT to hate Phil Jackson. You always have and always will. The second this guy came aboard some of you were sharpening your knives and klling him before his first PC.
that's not fair. Many of us waiting until he starting making dumb moves before killing him.
How many dumb moves? Maybe two? Let's allow for Noah since you seem convinced he's hot garbage and always will be never mind that his influence on KP and KOQ seems clear as day...fine...he's shite...and the fisher move? Fine...
What else? The Knicks are light years better today than they were 3 years ago. LIGHT YEARS. And they have space and picks ahead. Thanks. Say no more.
space and picks? Is Phil responsible for the new tv contract causing the cap to spike? bahahaha. Are you really THAT impressed with him not needlessly trading future first rounders? Are you aware that's what normal teams do and it's really nothing special?
a fully guaranteed contract for an ineffective, declining player in a league with a salary cap is a big issue. Saying otherwise is stupid.
Read my above post. I'm a vacuum the Noah signing isn't bad comparing it to Mozgov and Mahinimi. But that's pointless. Comparing 1 bad deal to 2 presumably worse deals isn't the way to build a team.
It's simple. From a personnel standpoint the easiest way to improve this roster is through the Center position. Unless Noah comes close to his old self his contract is really prohibiting the ways to upgrade the roster.