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NFT: Knicks Chat: Phil needs to shut up already

DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 9:43 am
Jackson criticized Anthony for being a ball stopper in an interview with CBS Sports Network Tuesday. The timing was curious since the Knicks had won four in a row before last night’s loss to Cleveland, and Anthony had been playing well.


“I don’t even know what was said to be honest with you,” Anthony said. “I just don’t even want to talk about that, what he’s talking about exactly. I want to stay away from that at this point. My focus is my teammates and winning. We’ve been playing great basketball and that’s the only thing I’m focused on.

“Whatever Phil said he said it. I have nothing to say about that.”

When Anthony was first asked about it, he uncharacteristically abruptly ended the interview.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 11:47 am : link
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ball likely never is a major part of his game but wow what a year so far Link - ( New Window )



Dirk's shooting coach in Germany gave him an open offer to work with him over the summer I believe.


He's truly a freak. If he somehow can become even semi decent from 3 he may be a guy we are discussing as the best player in the league (in that mix) no exaggeration. Not sure how much of his development has to do with Jason Kidd but talk about a perfect coach for a multi-talented kid like this.
You guys  
Aspano! : 12/8/2016 11:48 am : link
are going at each other for comments made on BBI? Jesus Christ. Who cares??

Phil gets shit for calling Lebron a diva because he's able to deflect it and make a racial issue. Cool. What was Lebron's excuse at the Cavs victory parade when he decided to mention out of nowhere that J.R. Smith was basically a throw-in in a trade? Like that mattered at all, considering they had just won?

Let's face it - Lebron has always been a media darling, and Phil, who has always used the media to his advantage, is running a team that has perennially been shit on by the media across the nation.

I would have loved it if Phil had responded, "I should be more mindful of what words I use, but that doesn't mean Lebron is any less of a manchild who uses his good-time buddies to bully franchises into meeting his demands."

And Phil had good things to say about Melo, and of course they were taken out of context. And look who's the one instigating that shit in the video - Frank Isola, of course. Ho hum.
I understand the Noah move.  
Keith : 12/8/2016 11:49 am : link
It's not like we were getting Dwight Howard.

Being that Melo is not and will not be going anywhere, Phil had no choice but to try and build the most competitive team that he could. He wanted to change the culture and perception of the NY Knicks, which is very important. We had a hole at Center and a guy who in the recent past, has been a very effective player. The options were limited and we really needed a starting center. This window goes for as long as Melo's current contract goes. I do think Noah will be better than he is now, but I expected him to be a more impactful player based on his past.
RE: Phil has done an amazing job of  
Enzo : 12/8/2016 11:51 am : link
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acquiring assets and not giving up any young assets as throw ins. Unless Enzo still wants to argue that Jerian Grant is some young stud, haha.

Amazing? Were do you people come up with this crap? Do you have any idea how the rest of the league operates or values talent? Besides KP, what are our best young assets? Willy was a nice pick and they signed him to a smart contract. Besides them, what are other teams dying to acquire from this roster? And if you're knocking Jerian - you're knocking Phil's ability to draft.

He turned that dud into  
Keith : 12/8/2016 11:52 am : link
a star PG, so can't complain.
Regarding  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 11:52 am : link
the Noah deal...sometimes players are worth more than just their stats. Noah is a leader and great for the locker room. These type of guys can change the culture around winning. That has to be worth something no? If you want the Knicks to save all their money in hopes that we can get a young free agent or whatever...ok, that's fine. But you need veterans who are leaders on teams if you want to change the culture...you just do. Was Noah the smartest signing ever?? No. But it's not hardly the disaster that some are making it out to be. That money in today's NBA is nothing.
RE: You guys  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 11:52 am : link
In comment 13254914 Aspano! said:
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are going at each other for comments made on BBI? Jesus Christ. Who cares??

Phil gets shit for calling Lebron a diva because he's able to deflect it and make a racial issue. Cool. What was Lebron's excuse at the Cavs victory parade when he decided to mention out of nowhere that J.R. Smith was basically a throw-in in a trade? Like that mattered at all, considering they had just won?

Let's face it - Lebron has always been a media darling, and Phil, who has always used the media to his advantage, is running a team that has perennially been shit on by the media across the nation.

I would have loved it if Phil had responded, "I should be more mindful of what words I use, but that doesn't mean Lebron is any less of a manchild who uses his good-time buddies to bully franchises into meeting his demands."

And Phil had good things to say about Melo, and of course they were taken out of context. And look who's the one instigating that shit in the video - Frank Isola, of course. Ho hum.


Uh, Lebron and JR Smith are teammates, you know of their relationship?
RE: Regarding  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 11:53 am : link
In comment 13254925 ryanmkeane said:
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the Noah deal...sometimes players are worth more than just their stats. Noah is a leader and great for the locker room. These type of guys can change the culture around winning. That has to be worth something no? If you want the Knicks to save all their money in hopes that we can get a young free agent or whatever...ok, that's fine. But you need veterans who are leaders on teams if you want to change the culture...you just do. Was Noah the smartest signing ever?? No. But it's not hardly the disaster that some are making it out to be. That money in today's NBA is nothing.


72 million? no
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Aspano! : 12/8/2016 11:54 am : link
In comment 13254927 DanMetroMan said:
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are going at each other for comments made on BBI? Jesus Christ. Who cares??

Phil gets shit for calling Lebron a diva because he's able to deflect it and make a racial issue. Cool. What was Lebron's excuse at the Cavs victory parade when he decided to mention out of nowhere that J.R. Smith was basically a throw-in in a trade? Like that mattered at all, considering they had just won?

Let's face it - Lebron has always been a media darling, and Phil, who has always used the media to his advantage, is running a team that has perennially been shit on by the media across the nation.

I would have loved it if Phil had responded, "I should be more mindful of what words I use, but that doesn't mean Lebron is any less of a manchild who uses his good-time buddies to bully franchises into meeting his demands."

And Phil had good things to say about Melo, and of course they were taken out of context. And look who's the one instigating that shit in the video - Frank Isola, of course. Ho hum.



Uh, Lebron and JR Smith are teammates, you know of their relationship?


What?
RE: I understand the Noah move.  
giantsfan44ab : 12/8/2016 11:54 am : link
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It's not like we were getting Dwight Howard.

Being that Melo is not and will not be going anywhere, Phil had no choice but to try and build the most competitive team that he could. He wanted to change the culture and perception of the NY Knicks, which is very important. We had a hole at Center and a guy who in the recent past, has been a very effective player. The options were limited and we really needed a starting center. This window goes for as long as Melo's current contract goes. I do think Noah will be better than he is now, but I expected him to be a more impactful player based on his past.


Yeah, I'm not even pointing my finger and yelling at phil for the move. I WANTED Noah when it was clear that phil didn't want to invest a quarter of the cap space on one of the premier centers. My absolute dream scenario was luring Whiteside to NY and having two high energy guys with 7'3" wingspans just annoying the shit out of opponents.

I was just surprised at the money and years. I do expect him to play More like he has the last few nights, but it's clear he's not going to be a "force" like he used to be.
Clearly  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 11:55 am : link
not a shot at JR Smith from Lebron

Speaking to the Cleveland crowd, James said in the microphone, “By the way, the New York Knicks said J.R. was just a throw-in, by the way.”

What is so wrong  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 11:55 am : link
with having a veteran like Noah on the team AS WELL AS improving the roster and getting younger? You can do both.
Dan  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 11:55 am : link
72M over 4 years in the NBA is honestly not that much money for a center. You just don't like Noah, that's fine.
RE: Clearly  
Aspano! : 12/8/2016 11:57 am : link
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not a shot at JR Smith from Lebron

Speaking to the Cleveland crowd, James said in the microphone, “By the way, the New York Knicks said J.R. was just a throw-in, by the way.”


Right. It wasn't a shot at JR - it was a shot at Phil and the Knicks FO out of nowhere.
RE: I understand the Noah move.  
Enzo : 12/8/2016 11:58 am : link
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It's not like we were getting Dwight Howard.

Being that Melo is not and will not be going anywhere, Phil had no choice but to try and build the most competitive team that he could.

Melo's ability to control his destination was a direct result of Phil himself giving him a no-trade.
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He wanted to change the culture and perception of the NY Knicks, which is very important.

Yes, it was very important to get away from their history of paying big money for declining stars. Good thing Phil went in a different direction!
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We had a hole at Center

we have a 7 foot 3 inch star in the making who blocks everything in sight and is among the top 3-4 prospects in the league. Not to mention O'Quinn and Willy. A bench big would have sufficed.

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and a guy who in the recent past, has been a very effective player.

his even more recent past involved a major injury and awful stats.
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The options were limited and we really needed a starting center.

so maybe don't trade the healthy, productive, starting center you already had on the roster on a reasonable contract?
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This window goes for as long as Melo's current contract goes.

Melo can leave after next season. Noah's contract runs two additional seasons. Were you aware of any of that?

The cap  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 11:58 am : link
is increasing to 100M in the next two seasons anyway...so again I just don't think the Noah deal is all that bad.
RE: What is so wrong  
giantsfan44ab : 12/8/2016 11:58 am : link
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with having a veteran like Noah on the team AS WELL AS improving the roster and getting younger? You can do both.


What? How are we getting younger?

$72 million is a lot of money bro, don't know how to break it to you.
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 11:59 am : link
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are going at each other for comments made on BBI? Jesus Christ. Who cares??

Phil gets shit for calling Lebron a diva because he's able to deflect it and make a racial issue. Cool. What was Lebron's excuse at the Cavs victory parade when he decided to mention out of nowhere that J.R. Smith was basically a throw-in in a trade? Like that mattered at all, considering they had just won?

Let's face it - Lebron has always been a media darling, and Phil, who has always used the media to his advantage, is running a team that has perennially been shit on by the media across the nation.

I would have loved it if Phil had responded, "I should be more mindful of what words I use, but that doesn't mean Lebron is any less of a manchild who uses his good-time buddies to bully franchises into meeting his demands."

And Phil had good things to say about Melo, and of course they were taken out of context. And look who's the one instigating that shit in the video - Frank Isola, of course. Ho hum.



Uh, Lebron and JR Smith are teammates, you know of their relationship?



What?


What does Lebron talking about the Cavs adding JR Smith as a throw-in have to do with anything? It's not a shot at Phil Jackson. It's commenting on how they took players the Knicks didn't even want and won a title.
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ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:00 pm : link
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with having a veteran like Noah on the team AS WELL AS improving the roster and getting younger? You can do both.



What? How are we getting younger?

$72 million is a lot of money bro, don't know how to break it to you.

Not in today's NBA it isn't.
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:00 pm : link
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72M over 4 years in the NBA is honestly not that much money for a center. You just don't like Noah, that's fine.


It's absolutely a lot of money (for any position) considering what Noah brings on the court. Not sure where you are getting the idea otherwise.
RE: He turned that dud into  
Enzo : 12/8/2016 12:00 pm : link
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a star PG, so can't complain.

maybe make a better draft pick that you can keep on the roster for a few years at a low cost instead of flipping him for an older, injury prone player who can leave this summer and puts you back at square one? Ever consider that?
Dan, his point is that Lebron took a shot  
Keith : 12/8/2016 12:01 pm : link
at Phil with that comment.
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Keith : 12/8/2016 12:01 pm : link
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a star PG, so can't complain.


maybe make a better draft pick that you can keep on the roster for a few years at a low cost instead of flipping him for an older, injury prone player who can leave this summer and puts you back at square one? Ever consider that?


lol. Says the guy throwing a fit because we threw in that young stud Grant. Cant have it both ways.
Gobert  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:01 pm : link
signed for 4 years/102. Rudy fucking Gobert.
RE: The cap  
giantsfan44ab : 12/8/2016 12:02 pm : link
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is increasing to 100M in the next two seasons anyway...so again I just don't think the Noah deal is all that bad.


I think you're ignoring everyone's issue in it. $18M a year is still like 15-17% of the cap. That's really prohibitive if you're still trying to improve your roster. The Knicks will be capped out if they keep rose and BJ.

Not defending the kings at all but they traded first round picks, swaps, and a young prospect to clear that % of dead money to make a FA signing. It was perhaps the worst trade I've seen in NBA history as they were signing rondo to a 1 year deal but I think that highlights teams desires to improve their roster when they are pushing the cap limits.
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Aspano! : 12/8/2016 12:02 pm : link
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are going at each other for comments made on BBI? Jesus Christ. Who cares??

Phil gets shit for calling Lebron a diva because he's able to deflect it and make a racial issue. Cool. What was Lebron's excuse at the Cavs victory parade when he decided to mention out of nowhere that J.R. Smith was basically a throw-in in a trade? Like that mattered at all, considering they had just won?

Let's face it - Lebron has always been a media darling, and Phil, who has always used the media to his advantage, is running a team that has perennially been shit on by the media across the nation.

I would have loved it if Phil had responded, "I should be more mindful of what words I use, but that doesn't mean Lebron is any less of a manchild who uses his good-time buddies to bully franchises into meeting his demands."

And Phil had good things to say about Melo, and of course they were taken out of context. And look who's the one instigating that shit in the video - Frank Isola, of course. Ho hum.



Uh, Lebron and JR Smith are teammates, you know of their relationship?



What?



What does Lebron talking about the Cavs adding JR Smith as a throw-in have to do with anything? It's not a shot at Phil Jackson. It's commenting on how they took players the Knicks didn't even want and won a title.


ok.
RE: RE: RE: What is so wrong  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:02 pm : link
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with having a veteran like Noah on the team AS WELL AS improving the roster and getting younger? You can do both.



What? How are we getting younger?

$72 million is a lot of money bro, don't know how to break it to you.


Not in today's NBA it isn't.


18 players have more money owed to them than Joakim Noah, 3 are centers. You think Noah has top 20 in the NBA value? I'm guessing otherwise.
RE: Gobert  
giantsfan44ab : 12/8/2016 12:02 pm : link
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signed for 4 years/102. Rudy fucking Gobert.


??????

Gobert is probably one of the top 5 centers in the league. If that was not a joke I think we can all safely say you lost the argument...
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Enzo : 12/8/2016 12:04 pm : link
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a star PG, so can't complain.


maybe make a better draft pick that you can keep on the roster for a few years at a low cost instead of flipping him for an older, injury prone player who can leave this summer and puts you back at square one? Ever consider that?



lol. Says the guy throwing a fit because we threw in that young stud Grant. Cant have it both ways.

where did I call him a young stud? Either respond or go away. Save your bullshit for someone else.
RE: Gobert  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13254969 ryanmkeane said:
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signed for 4 years/102. Rudy fucking Gobert.


?? He's a much better player who is entering his prime. Are you kidding me? Gobert is a dominant defensive force (currently 3rd in the NBA in defensive rating) averaging 11 and 11 with 3 blocks on 64% from the field. He's 24. Every team in the NBA takes Gobert at 96.1 million (BR reference has him at 96.1) vs. Noah at 72. Every single one.
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Aspano! : 12/8/2016 12:05 pm : link
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is increasing to 100M in the next two seasons anyway...so again I just don't think the Noah deal is all that bad.



I think you're ignoring everyone's issue in it. $18M a year is still like 15-17% of the cap. That's really prohibitive if you're still trying to improve your roster. The Knicks will be capped out if they keep rose and BJ.

Not defending the kings at all but they traded first round picks, swaps, and a young prospect to clear that % of dead money to make a FA signing. It was perhaps the worst trade I've seen in NBA history as they were signing rondo to a 1 year deal but I think that highlights teams desires to improve their roster when they are pushing the cap limits.


Not sure I see that as prohibitive, but I guess it's a matter of perspective. And that's also not taking into account that perhaps Phil feels that Hernangomez is the future starting 5 for the team.
Rudy  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:08 pm : link
Gobert has a career 19.3 PER (21.1 this season), great defensive player and is actually showing more of an offensive game recently. Really perplexed why he was even mentioned. If the Knicks had Gobert they would be a substantially better team. The Jazz have the #1 defensive in the league in terms of PPG against... in large part because if the Eiffel Tower. He's really, really good and could be getting better.
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Aspano! : 12/8/2016 12:08 pm : link
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with having a veteran like Noah on the team AS WELL AS improving the roster and getting younger? You can do both.



What? How are we getting younger?

$72 million is a lot of money bro, don't know how to break it to you.


Not in today's NBA it isn't.



18 players have more money owed to them than Joakim Noah, 3 are centers. You think Noah has top 20 in the NBA value? I'm guessing otherwise.


That's unfair, considering Noah's contract was signed the offseason following a ridiculous 30+% increase in the cap. Do you think Mike Conley having the richest contract in the league at around $30.5M/year is more a function of his value to the team, or more a function of the changing financial environment of the league?
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:10 pm : link
Gobert is owed 2.1, 21, 23, 24, 26 for his age 24-28 seasons

Noah
17, 18, 19, 19 for his age 31-34 seasons... I know which one I would choose...
If the Knicks  
giantsfan44ab : 12/8/2016 12:10 pm : link
Had Gobert instead of Noah they might've been the 2 seed.
72  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:11 pm : link
million is a lot of money for the Joakim Noah that has played since the beginning of last season. If you want to argue otherwise I don't know what else to say. Is it franchise crippling? No. But it's a lot of money for a guy who doesn't even look average anymore.
RE: If the Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13255005 giantsfan44ab said:
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Had Gobert instead of Noah they might've been the 2 seed.


He's a fantastic defensive player. Borderline dominant.
RE: Gobert  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13254969 ryanmkeane said:
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signed for 4 years/102. Rudy fucking Gobert.


Ryan if the Knicks were offered Gobert at 102 for Noah at 72 which do you take?
Alright easy now...  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:15 pm : link
it's Rudy Gobert. Let's not pretend he's the next Dwight Howard in his prime
RE: 72  
Aspano! : 12/8/2016 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13255007 DanMetroMan said:
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million is a lot of money for the Joakim Noah that has played since the beginning of last season. If you want to argue otherwise I don't know what else to say. Is it franchise crippling? No. But it's a lot of money for a guy who doesn't even look average anymore.


It's definitely a lot of money for the current form of Noah. But quite frankly, I don't think this is how his play will be for the entirety of the year. Part of it is his rounding into shape after missing some time, part of it is his learning to play with his teammates, and part of it is the team as a whole understanding their defensive tendencies. Do I think he'll be defensive MVP Noah? Absolutely not. But I do believe he'll be solid defensively and be able to compete with the more dangerous centers around the league, that he's still the best passer at his position in the entire league, and that he will absolutely do a great job as a leader for the team and helping to develop Hernangomez.
Gobert dominant??  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:16 pm : link
C'mon man.
He  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:17 pm : link
doesn't have to be Dwight Howard for his contract to be a good one at 96 vs. Noah's at 72.... not that it's the end all be all but CNNSI rated him the 33rd best player in the NBA coming into the season. He lead the league in FG% against at the rim. They noted

" With good health, Gobert should be firmly in the mix for All-Defensive Team and Defensive Player of the Year honors. "
RE: Gobert dominant??  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:17 pm : link
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C'mon man.


WHAT? You are really arguing against my statement that Gobert is a borderline dominant defensive force? Really?
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ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:18 pm : link
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signed for 4 years/102. Rudy fucking Gobert.



Ryan if the Knicks were offered Gobert at 102 for Noah at 72 which do you take?

I'd probably take Gobert but Dan..you can't just think of it like that. You can't just compare every player to every player and say "ok if you had to choose X or X at X price who would you have??" we could be here all day. Gobert is a nice player, he's a very good defensive center. But I'm not jerking off to him watching him play. To say he's dominant is a joke.
Dan  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:19 pm : link
I understand you really love Gobert and you really hate Noah...I'm just saying I'm going by the eye test. Gobert is a very good defensive player. What else do you want me to say?
"you are really  
ryanmkeane : 12/8/2016 12:20 pm : link
arguing against MY statement about Gobert??" yes..I am. Gobert is Rudy fucking Gobert. He's not gonna change the NBA.
Ben Golliver on Gobert-  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:20 pm : link
"Put Rudy Gobert anywhere on God’s green Earth, and he’ll improve the local team’s defensive rating considerably. “Long” doesn’t even begin to describe the 7’1” Gobert, who has ranked in the top five in block percentage and the top six in rebound percentage in each of the last two seasons. At 24, and coming off of an incomplete season, Gobert (9.1 PPG, 11 RPG, 2.2 BPG) is already playing at an elite level and still has room for growth. That’s great news for the Jazz, who are poised to make a serious run up the West standings. While Gobert isn’t quite as nimble as other up-and-coming centers, he’s an absolute keeper: he skies for blocks, he fearlessly challenges plays at the rim regardless of the YouTube consequences, he aggressively contests and actively deters countless shots, and he can foil drives simply by sizing up a ball-handler"

He's a big time defensive player. This is a fact, not an opinion.
Ryan  
DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:21 pm : link
all due respect your statements on Gobert prove to me you are just a Knicks homer. Gobert is a great defensive player by any measure you want to use. You don't want to buy it for some bizarre reason so I give up.
Phil  
TyreeHelmet : 12/8/2016 12:21 pm : link
I think PJax has been mostly positive during his tenure. Wouldn't describe it as superb though. Also can't give him credit for not trading away future picks. Smart teams simply don't do that. His record.

The Good

KP- obviously a home run. One of the best assets in the league and could easily be the best player from that draft.

Courtney Lee- good player on a good contract. Fits very nicely.

Hornacek- Has been very impressive. Looks like a great hire.

The Bad

Noah- I can't see how anyone can argue that this was a good move. He can't play any worse on offense. He can't shoot, passes up open layups or can't finish close and doesn't even set good screens. He's also shooting 28% from the line and teams are starting to "hack" him. Hasn't been strong defensively to make up for his offensive woes. Is it a crippling contract? Probably not. But I would much rather have paid Biyombo (23 years old) that contract or traded for Bogut. And honestly, KP's future is at the 5. Having Noah at 17mill limits how you can improve the team over the next few years. I'm sure he's a good locker room and maybe a good influence on the younger guys, but it's not worth that contract.

Lastly Phil does need to shut up with the media. No need to attack Melo like that. And the Charlie Rosen chronicles are complete bullshit. I believe he even mentioned Shumpert or Jr was having issues with a female in them. Totally unneccessary. And please shut the fuck up about the triangle. How about you focus on bringing in more young players on KP's timeline?
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DanMetroMan : 12/8/2016 12:22 pm : link
never once did I suggest Gobert will "change the NBA". I said he's a great defensive player, a borderline dominant defensive player. He is both. Dems the facts.
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