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bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 11:27 am
Raanta in.

Haven't seen anything definitive on the lineup. My guesses are Nash/Peumpel/Vesey out, Grabner/Jooris/Jensen in. Heaven knows what lines you make from it. (Decent chance Vesey plays, I suppose, but I'm preparing for the worst).

Kreider Step Zucc
Miller Hayes Grabner
Fast Lindberg Hrivik
Jensen Jooris Pirri

No change to the D, because they're awesome.

Looks like there's a good chance Scheifele misses the game.

Gonna have to play some D, hope for some goaltending, and grind out a couple wins for the next week or two. Let's see if we can get something from even just one of Lindberg, Jensen, Hrivik, Jooris, Pirri

Let's fucking go.
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RE: ....  
NYerInMA : 12/8/2016 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13255214 BrettNYG10 said:
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The NHL isn't going to make every game worth 3 points because the current system creates the illusion that teams are closer than they are. Easier to sell tickets when you're only 6 points back of a WC with 15 games left than if you're 18 back.


Sadly true.
RE: Is Henrik getting his  
BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2016 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13255223 B in ALB said:
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nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies?


First two words of this thread. Just go ahead and tell hoya you think he's irrelevant next time, sissy.
Funny Gomez quote from Gross.  
BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2016 1:56 pm : link
F&I: Priceless Gomez on possibly coaching: "I hated so many coaches, I almost have to coach to see. Who knows if I’ll be that bad, too.”
It really is awful the way the NHL handles a tie.  
Drewcon40 : 12/8/2016 2:00 pm : link
..I have heard commentators actually remark that teams that are tied late in the 3rd are playing to secure the point going into OT. I don't agree with arbitrarily creating an extra point to distribute in games that are tied at the end of regulation.

And the shoot out is such a joke. It would never happen and you would subject guys to injury but run the regular season as you would the playoffs. Run a 5 v 5 OT for 20 minute periods until there is a winner. Winner gets 2 points/loser gets 0. If the team has a game on back to back nights, play some of your extras. Maybe teams will try to secure their games earlier.

The NHL's regular season game is the only game where overtime is handled entirely different than the playoffs.
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BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2016 2:19 pm : link
League wide, % of games that go into OT:

13-14 24.96%
14-15 24.88%
15-16 22.36%
16-17 26.14%

Rangers:

13-14 14.63%
14-15 20.73%
15-16 19.51%
There was good article about the loser point  
NYerInMA : 12/8/2016 2:25 pm : link
From a while back. Basically, the Kings wouldn't have made the playoffs and won the Cup in 2011-12 if the league awarded 3 pts for regulation wins. Otherwise, the effect on the standings has been fairly minimal, though some of the seedings and matchups would've been different. That being said, I still think that 3 pts for a regulation win is the simplest fix to the current system.
A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT EFFECT THE LOSER POINT HAS HAD ON THE NHL STANDINGS - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Is Henrik getting his  
B in ALB : 12/8/2016 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13255299 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 13255223 B in ALB said:


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nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies?



First two words of this thread. Just go ahead and tell hoya you think he's irrelevant next time, sissy.


Hey fat boy. I don't care about what that Georgetown cum dumpster has to say. F him and his bullshit musings.
Correction  
NYerInMA : 12/8/2016 2:27 pm : link
That article removed the loser point entirely, instead of adding extra points for regulation wins. Same idea though.
RE: RE: RE: Is Henrik getting his  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13255356 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13255299 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 13255223 B in ALB said:


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nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies?



First two words of this thread. Just go ahead and tell hoya you think he's irrelevant next time, sissy.



Hey fat boy. I don't care about what that Georgetown cum dumpster has to say. F him and his bullshit musings.


Uncalled for!
Whatever hoya.  
B in ALB : 12/8/2016 2:38 pm : link
I'd talk shit about your terrible basketball team and generally shitty athletic program but I don't have a f'ing leg to stand on right now. Dammit!
I've grown so numb  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 2:45 pm : link
To the basketball program. JT3 just doesn't get it done and there doesn't seem to be any interest in holding him accountable any time soon.

I'll watch the games when it's convenient or when there's a bigger matchup, but I've got little kids and therefore little time, and the program has done nothing to justify me making it a priority to keep up with.

I save my bullets for rangers/giants/yanks and occasionally knicks
RE: ....  
MetsAreBack : 12/8/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13255338 BrettNYG10 said:
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League wide, % of games that go into OT:

13-14 24.96%
14-15 24.88%
15-16 22.36%
16-17 26.14%

Rangers:

13-14 14.63%
14-15 20.73%
15-16 19.51%
16-17 3.7%



Thanks... and fixed this for you. Confirms my suspicions. Never kept us out of playoffs (yet), but the distortion has created a cup champion (Kings) and screwed up seeding a ton. Unfortunate, but as you say above, not changing anytime soon.

Besides... these are the rules so we should adapt. Why are we playing such a risky game late in 3rd periods (to be fair, we've won 2 Carolina games and Edmonton game late this year too... maybe others i cant recall) but it seems - ESPECIALLY last year -- we give up way too many late regulation goals.

My hypothesis is its a mix of style, a bad defense, bad luck... and i hate to keep pounding on who is genuinely my favorite hockey player since the early 90s... but #30 could be a little more Eli less Peyton when it comes to late and clutch.
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BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2016 3:40 pm : link
Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams?

I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.
RE: ....  
Anakim : 12/8/2016 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13255540 BrettNYG10 said:
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Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams?

I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.


I think they only have one loss this year when leading in the third period
RE: RE: ....  
Anakim : 12/8/2016 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13255544 Anakim said:
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In comment 13255540 BrettNYG10 said:


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Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams?

I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.



I think they only have one loss this year when leading in the third period


And an OT loss
RE: ....  
MetsAreBack : 12/8/2016 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13255540 BrettNYG10 said:
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Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams?

I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.


Thats fine but they blow (or win) tie games at a very high rate relative to other teams late in 3rd periods. At least the last two years anyway. I dont recall 3-4 years ago.
Anyway, there's a lot of season left  
MetsAreBack : 12/8/2016 5:09 pm : link
and i'm hopeful we can get that overtime percentage up towards 20% somehow.

But just for reference, dont know why but i just checked the standings and was a surprised the 12-13 devils with two games in hand are only 5 points back of us.

Why? Because somehow they've pushed 13 of their 25 games to OT already (they are 7-6). So basically a team with 5 regulation wins all year to our 17 is within a cunt hair of passing us anyway. That makes sense.

To date the NHL awards 2.52 points per Devils game versus 2.04 points per Rangers game.


Anyway, enough of this but i'm continuously fascinated by it... kind of like hudson with crowd splits i guess. On to the 'Peg.
It's a horrid system, period  
Greg from LI : 12/8/2016 5:13 pm : link
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BrettNYG10 : 12/8/2016 5:27 pm : link
Rangers were 159-1-9 as of November 2015 when leading going into the third. Haven't seen an updated version.

I think the (seeming) increase is because of the deterioration in the defense. I also hate AV's shell.
NY Post - ( New Window )
Vesey confirmed out  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 7:15 pm : link
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With all the injuries the line up looks like a pre season line up.  
Drewcon40 : 12/8/2016 8:14 pm : link
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Very pretty  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 8:21 pm : link
Excellent vision by Zucc
Way to go Kreids!  
Drewcon40 : 12/8/2016 8:21 pm : link
PPG.
Damn  
Kyle in NY : 12/8/2016 8:31 pm : link
Grabner couldn't have hoped for a more wide open net there
Not sure  
Kyle in NY : 12/8/2016 8:34 pm : link
if Winnipeg is pretty poor defensively or we're playing well, but damn these are some good chances we're missing. Grabner makes a huge difference.
Long time coming  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 9:18 pm : link
Getting their shit pushed in for the entire first 10 min of the 2nd.

Wake up.
And this is the easiest game of the next 8 on paper  
MetsAreBack : 12/8/2016 9:23 pm : link
Over next 13 days. Jesus this could get really ugly.

Injuries suck. And this compressed schedule is embarrassing
For all the talk  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 9:33 pm : link
About Pirri's lethal shot, lately he's looked like he's shooting with a rubber stick
We better win this one  
Anakim : 12/8/2016 9:37 pm : link
With all the scoring chances that we've had and with how shitty Leighton is, we should get 2 points. No excuses.
EDM rolls over for Philly  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 9:46 pm : link
After building two separate 2-goal leads
That's 7 wins in a row for PHI  
NYerInMA : 12/8/2016 9:51 pm : link
Isles are 5-0-1 in their last six. Division is getting really tight.
RE: We better win this one  
Anakim : 12/8/2016 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13255987 Anakim said:
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With all the scoring chances that we've had and with how shitty Leighton is, we should get 2 points. No excuses.



Hutchinson. Sorry
Not the smartest move by Grabner  
pganut : 12/8/2016 10:13 pm : link
That was unnecessarily dangerous.
How the hell is that a penalty????  
nyjuggernaut2 : 12/8/2016 10:13 pm : link
Grabner hit his shoulder, and the Jets player completely embellished it.
It was the posture which the stick came in at  
pganut : 12/8/2016 10:22 pm : link
Just the body would've been sufficient. No matter, you killed it.

Now you get the PP here.
So barring a complete  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 10:22 pm : link
Dumpster fire, we should be coming away with at least a point
PURPLEEEE  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 10:24 pm : link
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Classic AV  
Deej : 12/8/2016 10:24 pm : link
hates overtime
Play some fucking D  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 10:24 pm : link
Let's gooooo
HELL YEAH!!!  
nyjuggernaut2 : 12/8/2016 10:24 pm : link
Lucky bounce but I'll take it!!
Big win  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 10:26 pm : link
Not pretty but hard fought.
Big 2 points  
Stufftherun : 12/8/2016 10:31 pm : link
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That's a solid thread start by hoya  
B in ALB : 12/8/2016 10:44 pm : link
Keep it up trashcan.
Hoya with a big day  
redbeard : 12/8/2016 10:52 pm : link
Don't let it go to your head...gotta go throw down with Kaner and the boys in less than 24 hours
RE: That's a solid thread start by hoya  
bigbluehoya : 12/8/2016 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13256129 B in ALB said:
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Keep it up trashcan.


Yyyuge win  
MetsAreBack : 12/8/2016 11:14 pm : link
Yuge.

Back at it tomorrow night. I don't know what it is with this team less than 5 minutes to go in regulation of tie games lol. You know one team is lighting the lamp. Glad it was us tonight.
So long gay BBIoys  
B in ALB : 12/8/2016 11:15 pm : link
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Big win  
Phil in LA : 12/8/2016 11:27 pm : link
Kreider and Hayes came up big.
Kreids looks like he's recovered from being dinged up finally  
Torrag : 12/9/2016 8:15 am : link
Given our current injury woes we need him to play like a man among boys like he started the season.
I think that's the Rangers' first win of the year  
NYerInMA : 12/9/2016 8:56 am : link
when scoring fewer than 3 goals. Papa John finally gets a break!
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