NFT: NYR @ Winnipeg, 8pm on MSG

and of course this happens in an absurd, WTF kind of schedule is this... 8 games in 13 days period.

like Churchill gave consideration to putting vermouth in his martinis.

is on par with all the elite young talent I've seen, maybe a shade less than McDavid, but I'd rather have him than Matthews.

He's legit, best Fin since Selanne IMO, so fitting he's a Jet.

with his size and skill he's got a good future.

To go 11F/7D, if there ever was one.

In comment 13254872 pjcas18 said:

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is on par with all the elite young talent I've seen, maybe a shade less than McDavid, but I'd rather have him than Matthews. He's legit, best Fin since Selanne IMO, so fitting he's a Jet. with his size and skill he's got a good future.

I think I agree with you, and he already has one of the best wristers I've ever seen. He shoots angry. Habs gonna make any moves with Galy and Desharnais out 6-8 weeks?

I think you put Pirri on the 2nd or 3rd line wing and challenge him to step up. The talent is 100% there.

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In comment 13254872 pjcas18 said: Quote: is on par with all the elite young talent I've seen, maybe a shade less than McDavid, but I'd rather have him than Matthews. He's legit, best Fin since Selanne IMO, so fitting he's a Jet. with his size and skill he's got a good future. I think I agree with you, and he already has one of the best wristers I've ever seen. He shoots angry. Habs gonna make any moves with Galy and Desharnais out 6-8 weeks?

Yes first to worst. Chucky was probably most improved player in the NHL through two months. After Price, he is probably the player they could least afford to lose.

I can't stand Desharnais, but losing another center compounds the problem.

Only name I've heard is Martin Hanzal. I hope they don't trade for him.

In comment 13254916 pganut said:

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In comment 13254872 pjcas18 said: Quote: is on par with all the elite young talent I've seen, maybe a shade less than McDavid, but I'd rather have him than Matthews. He's legit, best Fin since Selanne IMO, so fitting he's a Jet. with his size and skill he's got a good future. I think I agree with you, and he already has one of the best wristers I've ever seen. He shoots angry. Habs gonna make any moves with Galy and Desharnais out 6-8 weeks?

Nobody asked for your opinion, scumbag.

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Nobody asked for your opinion, scumbag.

That's MR. Scumbag, plebe.

catch the 1-1 draw the other day? Uninspired. Back line is shit. That's going to be a real problem going forward.

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catch the 1-1 draw the other day? Uninspired. Back line is shit. That's going to be a real problem going forward.

Yup. As is Kun being out for 4. Looking for Iheanacho to light up some of these weaker teams coming up, but between the back line as you note and not being sold on Bravo's clutchness yet, a bit of handwringing.

It's like dealing with a 4 year old - you can tell them the rules over and over until you're blue in the face, and you might as well be speaking Uighur.

In comment 13254977 Greg from LI said:

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It's like dealing with a 4 year old - you can tell them the rules over and over until you're blue in the face, and you might as well be speaking Uighur.

Attica! Attica!

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but looking at our record (17-9-1) it really is remarkable that has us only 5 points ahead of 9th place. The rate at which these games go to overtime league wide while we seem to always lose close games in regulation is frustrating. But it will never change, NHL must love how no team is out of it.

We're tied with the Penguins; Blue Jackets are one point behind; Flyers are surging; Capitals are reestablishing themselves; Devils are playing well and the Fish Nuggets are finally coming along.

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We're tied with the Penguins; Blue Jackets are one point behind; Flyers are surging; Capitals are reestablishing themselves; Devils are playing well and the Fish Nuggets are finally coming along.

Well there is a talent issue now given all the injuries. Realistically you look at the next 8 games in next 13 days, almost all of them except tonight against likely playoff teams... given how banged up we are i'd be thrilled with 8 points in these 8 games.

Kyle - I almost give up at this point with getting that third point. It's been 3 or 4 straight years now - something about AV's style of play, I cannot put my finger on, that is driving an insane % of games decided in regulation, for better or worse.

The Buffalo game still really pisses me off - up a goal with 7 and change left... that should never ever become a regulation loss in this era of lower scoring hockey games. We take far too many risks late in games, i guess.

Last year's Edmonton and NYI (home game in march i think it was) were also ridiculous - come back to tie with 2 minutes left to go in regulation... lose in regulation anyway. WTF.

We had 9 OTLs last year. 10 teams had more, though 6 of those were 10-11. Year before we had 7 which was on the low side, but 13 teams had 8 or fewer OTLs. Year before that we had 6 which was the fewest in the NHL, and only 4 teams had 7. That's the AV era.

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We had 9 OTLs last year. 10 teams had more, though 6 of those were 10-11. Year before we had 7 which was on the low side, but 13 teams had 8 or fewer OTLs. Year before that we had 6 which was the fewest in the NHL, and only 4 teams had 7. That's the AV era.

Do you happen to know what the numbers look like if you include all OT games and not just losses? Maybe it's just some negativity bias, but it feels like the rangers have gone to OT a lot less than others and been pretty bad when they've gotten there (particularly in the shootout)

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In comment 13255055 Deej said: Quote: We had 9 OTLs last year. 10 teams had more, though 6 of those were 10-11. Year before we had 7 which was on the low side, but 13 teams had 8 or fewer OTLs. Year before that we had 6 which was the fewest in the NHL, and only 4 teams had 7. That's the AV era. Do you happen to know what the numbers look like if you include all OT games and not just losses? Maybe it's just some negativity bias, but it feels like the rangers have gone to OT a lot less than others and been pretty bad when they've gotten there (particularly in the shootout)

No,I just did a quick peek at the standings.

Day off w the kids today and my 5 month old is giving me a real scrum about her naptime.

The NHL isn't going to make every game worth 3 points because the current system creates the illusion that teams are closer than they are. Easier to sell tickets when you're only 6 points back of a WC with 15 games left than if you're 18 back.

nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies?

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The NHL isn't going to make every game worth 3 points because the current system creates the illusion that teams are closer than they are. Easier to sell tickets when you're only 6 points back of a WC with 15 games left than if you're 18 back.

Sadly true.

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nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies?

First two words of this thread. Just go ahead and tell hoya you think he's irrelevant next time, sissy.

F&I: Priceless Gomez on possibly coaching: "I hated so many coaches, I almost have to coach to see. Who knows if I’ll be that bad, too.”

..I have heard commentators actually remark that teams that are tied late in the 3rd are playing to secure the point going into OT. I don't agree with arbitrarily creating an extra point to distribute in games that are tied at the end of regulation.

And the shoot out is such a joke. It would never happen and you would subject guys to injury but run the regular season as you would the playoffs. Run a 5 v 5 OT for 20 minute periods until there is a winner. Winner gets 2 points/loser gets 0. If the team has a game on back to back nights, play some of your extras. Maybe teams will try to secure their games earlier.

The NHL's regular season game is the only game where overtime is handled entirely different than the playoffs.

League wide, % of games that go into OT:

13-14 24.96%
14-15 24.88%
15-16 22.36%
16-17 26.14%

Rangers:

13-14 14.63%
14-15 20.73%
15-16 19.51%

From a while back. Basically, the Kings wouldn't have made the playoffs and won the Cup in 2011-12 if the league awarded 3 pts for regulation wins. Otherwise, the effect on the standings has been fairly minimal, though some of the seedings and matchups would've been different. That being said, I still think that 3 pts for a regulation win is the simplest fix to the current system.
A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT EFFECT THE LOSER POINT HAS HAD ON THE NHL STANDINGS - ( New Window )

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In comment 13255223 B in ALB said: Quote: nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies? First two words of this thread. Just go ahead and tell hoya you think he's irrelevant next time, sissy.

Hey fat boy. I don't care about what that Georgetown cum dumpster has to say. F him and his bullshit musings.

That article removed the loser point entirely, instead of adding extra points for regulation wins. Same idea though.

In comment 13255356 B in ALB said:

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In comment 13255299 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: In comment 13255223 B in ALB said: Quote: nap time tonight? Or is he still in line to let in some cheapies? First two words of this thread. Just go ahead and tell hoya you think he's irrelevant next time, sissy. Hey fat boy. I don't care about what that Georgetown cum dumpster has to say. F him and his bullshit musings.

Uncalled for!

I'd talk shit about your terrible basketball team and generally shitty athletic program but I don't have a f'ing leg to stand on right now. Dammit!

To the basketball program. JT3 just doesn't get it done and there doesn't seem to be any interest in holding him accountable any time soon.

I'll watch the games when it's convenient or when there's a bigger matchup, but I've got little kids and therefore little time, and the program has done nothing to justify me making it a priority to keep up with.

I save my bullets for rangers/giants/yanks and occasionally knicks

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League wide, % of games that go into OT: 13-14 24.96% 14-15 24.88% 15-16 22.36% 16-17 26.14% Rangers: 13-14 14.63% 14-15 20.73% 15-16 19.51% 16-17 3.7%

Thanks... and fixed this for you. Confirms my suspicions. Never kept us out of playoffs (yet), but the distortion has created a cup champion (Kings) and screwed up seeding a ton. Unfortunate, but as you say above, not changing anytime soon.

Besides... these are the rules so we should adapt. Why are we playing such a risky game late in 3rd periods (to be fair, we've won 2 Carolina games and Edmonton game late this year too... maybe others i cant recall) but it seems - ESPECIALLY last year -- we give up way too many late regulation goals.

My hypothesis is its a mix of style, a bad defense, bad luck... and i hate to keep pounding on who is genuinely my favorite hockey player since the early 90s... but #30 could be a little more Eli less Peyton when it comes to late and clutch.

Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams?

I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.

In comment 13255540 BrettNYG10 said:

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Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams? I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.

I think they only have one loss this year when leading in the third period

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In comment 13255540 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams? I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything. I think they only have one loss this year when leading in the third period

And an OT loss

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Don't the Rangers blow leads at a below average rate relative to other teams? I think a lot of it has to do with the Rangers just winning games in regulation more than anything.

Thats fine but they blow (or win) tie games at a very high rate relative to other teams late in 3rd periods. At least the last two years anyway. I dont recall 3-4 years ago.

and i'm hopeful we can get that overtime percentage up towards 20% somehow.

But just for reference, dont know why but i just checked the standings and was a surprised the 12-13 devils with two games in hand are only 5 points back of us.

Why? Because somehow they've pushed 13 of their 25 games to OT already (they are 7-6). So basically a team with 5 regulation wins all year to our 17 is within a cunt hair of passing us anyway. That makes sense.

To date the NHL awards 2.52 points per Devils game versus 2.04 points per Rangers game.


Anyway, enough of this but i'm continuously fascinated by it... kind of like hudson with crowd splits i guess. On to the 'Peg.

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Rangers were 159-1-9 as of November 2015 when leading going into the third. Haven't seen an updated version.

I think the (seeming) increase is because of the deterioration in the defense. I also hate AV's shell.
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Excellent vision by Zucc

PPG.

Grabner couldn't have hoped for a more wide open net there

if Winnipeg is pretty poor defensively or we're playing well, but damn these are some good chances we're missing. Grabner makes a huge difference.

Getting their shit pushed in for the entire first 10 min of the 2nd.

Wake up.

Over next 13 days. Jesus this could get really ugly.

Injuries suck. And this compressed schedule is embarrassing

About Pirri's lethal shot, lately he's looked like he's shooting with a rubber stick

With all the scoring chances that we've had and with how shitty Leighton is, we should get 2 points. No excuses.

After building two separate 2-goal leads

Isles are 5-0-1 in their last six. Division is getting really tight.

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With all the scoring chances that we've had and with how shitty Leighton is, we should get 2 points. No excuses.

Hutchinson. Sorry

That was unnecessarily dangerous.

Grabner hit his shoulder, and the Jets player completely embellished it.

Just the body would've been sufficient. No matter, you killed it.

Now you get the PP here.

Dumpster fire, we should be coming away with at least a point

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hates overtime

Let's gooooo

Lucky bounce but I'll take it!!

Not pretty but hard fought.

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Keep it up trashcan.

Don't let it go to your head...gotta go throw down with Kaner and the boys in less than 24 hours

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Keep it up trashcan.

Yuge.

Back at it tomorrow night. I don't know what it is with this team less than 5 minutes to go in regulation of tie games lol. You know one team is lighting the lamp. Glad it was us tonight.

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Kreider and Hayes came up big.

Given our current injury woes we need him to play like a man among boys like he started the season.

when scoring fewer than 3 goals. Papa John finally gets a break!