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NFT: FF - 12/8

dep026 : 12/8/2016 11:34 am
Need a defense decision:

KC vs. Oakland
Cincy @ Cleveland

Cincy seems like the obvious choice, however RGIII is returning (dont see mhim being a turnover machine). While Oakland is traveling to KC where its tough to play.
I think Cincy  
MetsAreBack : 12/8/2016 11:43 am : link
though i'm sure i'll be wrong as KC seems to score a DTD every week lately.

Of course last week i had them and for some reason i didnt get credit for the punt fake rushing TD (I guess that's just a rushing TD!?!) nor the 2 point conversion return. I guess we never updated extra point scoring since this first year defenses can actually score on them.
I like Cincy(I also picked them up).  
Keith : 12/8/2016 11:44 am : link
RGMe is terrible and hasn't played in a long time. He can't pass the ball at all. He will get sacked and probably lose a fumble or two.
Picked up Cinci for this week.  
arcarsenal : 12/8/2016 11:45 am : link
I'm rolling with them.
Cincy  
giants#1 : 12/8/2016 11:46 am : link
RGIII sucks. KC will get some sacks, but hard to count on a defensive score. And Oak can put up some points.
I picked up Detroit  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2016 11:46 am : link
who's home Vs Chicago and have been really good their last few games.

RG3 is starting this week so he's either going to light it up or shit the bed against Cincy.
Cincy is tempting  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2016 11:56 am : link
I just wish they were at home
Two Position Feedbacks Needed  
NYG27 : 12/8/2016 11:56 am : link
First which one of these three would you start....

Steve Smith @ NE
Devontae Booker @ TEN
Ryan Mathews vs WAS

Second which defense would you play....

Giants vs Cowboys
Bills vs Steelers

I think with Booker struggling and Mathews returning from injury, Smith might be the safe start. If JPP didn't get injured, I would have started the Giants but without him, not sure how effective they will be against a Cowboys team who does not turn over the ball too often.

Thought?
For a while this year I was streaming defense...  
TheEvilLurker : 12/8/2016 11:58 am : link
anyone playing Cleveland.

Seems like a good play.
RE: I picked up Detroit  
giants#1 : 12/8/2016 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13254905 UConn4523 said:
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who's home Vs Chicago and have been really good their last few games.

RG3 is starting this week so he's either going to light it up or shit the bed against Cincy.


When was the last time he lit someone up? 2013?
Also need Defense Team Help  
djz9176 : 12/8/2016 12:28 pm : link
Who would you pick between the following: My defensive scoring is very strange. You don't get any points for any Special Teams TD's. Also after giving up 30 pts you get 1 negative pt for each point scored against.

KC vs Oakland
Det vs Chicago
RE: RE: I picked up Detroit  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2016 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13254967 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13254905 UConn4523 said:


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who's home Vs Chicago and have been really good their last few games.

RG3 is starting this week so he's either going to light it up or shit the bed against Cincy.



When was the last time he lit someone up? 2013?


Probably. But he's now playing for his career and has a couple guys to throw to. I've been going back and forth on what to do and maybe I'll change my mind and go Cincy, but I like Detroit at home against Barkley as well.
Is starting 3 players on the same team idiotic?  
Miami_JintsFan : 12/8/2016 1:51 pm : link
Winston, Evans and Martin?
RE: Is starting 3 players on the same team idiotic?  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2016 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13255290 Miami_JintsFan said:
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Winston, Evans and Martin?


Martin sucks so i'd probably look at another option. I scooped up Jacquizz yesterday and may actually start him. I think his YPC is almost 1.5 yards greater than Martins who I think the Bucs are pretty much at the end of their rope with. I know he just signed a longterm deal but everything points to them hating him.
It's risky, but the payoff is beautiful if you have a good team  
David in LA : 12/8/2016 2:00 pm : link
I killed my ppr league with Brady, Moss, and Welker.
Isn't Sims coming back?  
arcarsenal : 12/8/2016 2:20 pm : link
That's probably going to put a pretty big dent in Rodgers' value
Spencer Ware vs OAK or Rawls @ GB?  
Heisenberg : 12/8/2016 2:25 pm : link
I can't decide. Ware finally had a good game and that matchup is pretty enticing. But Rawls looked impressive.
Defense Team Help- Any thoughts  
djz9176 : 12/8/2016 2:47 pm : link
KC vs Oakland
Det vs Chicago
RE: Isn't Sims coming back?  
UConn4523 : 12/8/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13255339 arcarsenal said:
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That's probably going to put a pretty big dent in Rodgers' value


Yes, but I think it hurts Martin more. Both RB's are playing better than Martin.
Anyone besides me looking into ways to make it to the playoffs?  
TheEvilLurker : 12/8/2016 3:51 pm : link
I need to win, one loss from another team, then get a higher # of points.

Lucky, 2 teams that are in the running are playing each other. Good chance one of them will be out.

Basically, there is a 2 team tie for 2nd, and a 3 team tie for 4th (I'm one of the 3 teams).
for everyone who has the bengals  
dep026 : 12/8/2016 7:09 pm : link
Thank me now. I started the chiefs tonight over cincy. Guarantee big week for cincy.

21 degrees at KC for a west coast team can be trouble.
I am in polar opposite situations..  
arcarsenal : 12/8/2016 7:21 pm : link
I am in two leagues.. my main league and a side league I do with a bunch of friends. In 1st in my main with 1 regular season week to go before playoffs.. 1st place gets a $500 bonus and I don't have it locked up.. I'm only 12 points ahead of the guy in 2nd, we have the same record.

So I'm playing for 1st there and then hopefully the championship once playoffs start.

And then in my other league, we have a relegation rule.. bottom two teams get the boot because we have other guys who want in. Had a miserable year in there because of Charles, Woodhead, and just a lot of bad luck overall. So I am playing for my place in the league this week. I have to win otherwise I'm out. Stressful.
Dep go with Cincy...  
EricJ : 12/8/2016 7:54 pm : link
especially since RG3 is returning. That guy sucks and he has not played in a while.
In a standard league this weekend, I have a tough choice...  
EricJ : 12/8/2016 7:57 pm : link
Mark Ingram
Frank Gore
Sammy Watkins

I need consistent points, not a boom or bust. Due to that, I am leaning Gore

What do you think?
RE: In a standard league this weekend, I have a tough choice...  
allstarjim : 12/9/2016 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13255871 EricJ said:
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Mark Ingram
Frank Gore
Sammy Watkins

I need consistent points, not a boom or bust. Due to that, I am leaning Gore

What do you think?


I think your guy is Ingram. Monitor the toe, I think he will play, but the Saints run really well outdoors on grass. In those environs, they rush for 135 yards/game, and they tend to run the ball more than the do when they are playing indoors. Tampa has been a little tougher of late to runners, but I think Ingram will be a good play not just as a runner, but also as a receiver this week.

I do not like Gore, I just think there is so little upside there if he doesn't score a TD, and I know he's had a really good year overall, but I just can't. I think Ingram is about 110 yards rushing and receiving this week and a score, and he'd be my play.

Gore is playing at home against a pathetic Houston offense, and so game script-wise he's a decent play, but if he doesn't score, there's a pretty decent chance you are looking at a 4-7 point fantasy day from him. I think Ingram offers a safer floor of about 8 points (60 rushing, 20 receiving, 0 TDs) and much better upside.
Well I started KC  
dep026 : 12/9/2016 1:08 pm : link
and in my league you get 10 points for a punt/kick return for a TD - so 15 points from them was nice. So even if the Bengals score more, its ok. That was a big score for me.

Now I have the same dilemmas every week. And I come to BBI to steer me wrong! haha

RB: choose 3
Miller @ Colts
Ajayi vs. Arizona
Forte @ SF
Howard @ Detroit

WR: Choose 2
Matthews vs. Washington
Watkins vs. Pittsburgh
Adams vs. Seattle
Landry vs. Arizona

Right now I have:
Ajayi, Howard, Forte, Watkins, Matthews
RE: Well I started KC  
UConn4523 : 12/9/2016 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13256807 dep026 said:
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and in my league you get 10 points for a punt/kick return for a TD - so 15 points from them was nice. So even if the Bengals score more, its ok. That was a big score for me.

Now I have the same dilemmas every week. And I come to BBI to steer me wrong! haha

RB: choose 3
Miller @ Colts
Ajayi vs. Arizona
Forte @ SF
Howard @ Detroit

WR: Choose 2
Matthews vs. Washington
Watkins vs. Pittsburgh
Adams vs. Seattle
Landry vs. Arizona

Right now I have:
Ajayi, Howard, Forte, Watkins, Matthews


Colts will be missing 4 starters on D including their NT, Miller has to be hard to sit this week.
what RB would you sit?  
dep026 : 12/9/2016 1:28 pm : link
Forte OLine and team stink
Ajayi going up against the best run defense
Howard is at detroit and their offense isnt the greatest.

4 pretty good players in shitty situations. Id probably sit forte for miller then.
I'll try to help.  
allstarjim : 12/9/2016 1:39 pm : link
Unless it's 'Zeke, or Le'Veon Bell, I am not playing any RB against Arizona's defense if I can help it. Just not going to happen. There are defenses you want to avoid against RB's, and Arizona is just one of them. I know Ajayi has had a nice year, but no, I'm not trusting him vs that team.

So for your RB spot I'd go Miller, Howard and Forte, and I would feel pretty good about that.

At receiver, I like the potential game script of Pittsburgh at Buffalo, and I know he's a risky play, but I think Watkins has a pretty good game and I'd play him. And I'd go Davante Adams vs the Seahawks. It's not a great matchup, but they lost Earl Thomas, and you'd think Jordy is going to draw Sherman for the most part. They do move Jordy around but he plays to the right side of the formation most of the time, and that's Sherman's main side (left side of the defensive formation) as well, and I like Adams, who has had some big games recently, as well as a stinker last week, to have a nice game here against the Seahawks.

I do not like Matthews at all, because he has been a huge fantasy disappointment, and isn't 100% coming back from an ankle injury. And really, you can't trust any Dolphins, not even Landry, against that Arizona defense, so just bench them.

I agree  
UConn4523 : 12/9/2016 1:46 pm : link
Ajayi is good, but that matchup just sucks.
i'm still mulling ober  
UConn4523 : 12/9/2016 1:47 pm : link
Detroit at home against the Bears or Cincy @ Cleveland. I can make a case either way but i'm struggling to make a decision.
Don't overthink it and play the matchup  
allstarjim : 12/9/2016 2:04 pm : link
Cleveland is the best weekly matchup there is. And RGIII starting makes no difference.
RE: I'll try to help.  
dep026 : 12/9/2016 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13256872 allstarjim said:
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Unless it's 'Zeke, or Le'Veon Bell, I am not playing any RB against Arizona's defense if I can help it. Just not going to happen. There are defenses you want to avoid against RB's, and Arizona is just one of them. I know Ajayi has had a nice year, but no, I'm not trusting him vs that team.

So for your RB spot I'd go Miller, Howard and Forte, and I would feel pretty good about that.

At receiver, I like the potential game script of Pittsburgh at Buffalo, and I know he's a risky play, but I think Watkins has a pretty good game and I'd play him. And I'd go Davante Adams vs the Seahawks. It's not a great matchup, but they lost Earl Thomas, and you'd think Jordy is going to draw Sherman for the most part. They do move Jordy around but he plays to the right side of the formation most of the time, and that's Sherman's main side (left side of the defensive formation) as well, and I like Adams, who has had some big games recently, as well as a stinker last week, to have a nice game here against the Seahawks.

I do not like Matthews at all, because he has been a huge fantasy disappointment, and isn't 100% coming back from an ankle injury. And really, you can't trust any Dolphins, not even Landry, against that Arizona defense, so just bench them.


Thank you. You make excellent points. I know what you're saying about Matthews but he is still their number 1 and has given me some good weeks. I think there will be more offense in that game. The problem with GB is that they have Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Cook, etc.... Matthews tends to be a little more consistent while Adams has bigger games.
RE: Don't overthink it and play the matchup  
dep026 : 12/9/2016 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13256918 allstarjim said:
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Cleveland is the best weekly matchup there is. And RGIII starting makes no difference.


I was with you all week on this but changed to KC last night because of weather. The cold obviously affecting the raiders. Wish I got a few more sacks and didnt have a few tips go to the ground.... but with RGIII - there might be a ton of running and he does have some decent options. I dont know I can see a low scoring 10-17 from the browns but not enough to have a huge week.
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