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Anyone worried about Giants at Eagles

blueblood'11 : 12/21/2016 6:59 am
I really don't know what to think. All I know is the Eagles offense is nothing like the last two teams the Giants for the most part just stoned. So why would anyone think this Eagles offense would present a problem.

This is the NFL and they say on any given Sunday or Thusrday. You know the Eagles would love nothing more then to put a crimp in the Giants push for the playoffs. I'm not so much worried about the defense. They will not and have not let games get away from them all year long and I don't see that as being the case.

The Eagles are going to go after the Giants offense with a vengeance and for once I am hoping the Giants score early and often and let the defense do their thing. I keep telling myself they gave up a total of 13 points not in one game but two combined against very potent offenses. And have not allowed a touchdown on something 19 or 20 consecutive opposing offenses drives. So what am I worried about.

I guess it's because it is a division game and no matter what the records say you know it will be a dogfight. So, how worried is anyone out there about this tilt on Thursday. The Giants have so much momentum I can't imagine the Eagles getting much done against a team that is flying so high especially on defense.
That place  
Joey in VA : 12/21/2016 7:04 am : link
Has been a house of horrors for us lately, I'm never confident when we play those bastards especially in that hell hole.
Honestly, I have no idea what you are worried about ...  
Boy Cord : 12/21/2016 7:05 am : link
... other than Giants turnovers. Spags is going to confuse the hell out of Wentz. They don't have any deep threats. The Giants are great against the run.
We must run the ball well and not turn it over  
SGMen : 12/21/2016 7:05 am : link
Our defense will control but that doesn't mean they will shut out the Eagles. And you can't expect to get turnovers every week either. As long as we run well, efficiently, and Eli doesn't turn it over and stays on target, we should have enough to win.

It will be a dogfight. I am thinking 23-20 or 20-17, Giants by just enough. We win this game and go to Washington well rested.

I think Detroit will knock off Dallas. And then Philly ends with Dallas and they will be well rested. Have to hope Dallas goes 0-2 and we go 2-0 for division title and #1 seed.
Not sure "worried" is right word. Always concerned the Giants  
Jimmy Googs : 12/21/2016 7:10 am : link
could lay an egg versus Eagles though.

Division game, away from home, against a team that Giants don't typically play well against in the trenches. All ripe for concern.

However, the Giants beat them less than 2 months ago (barely) so maybe that removes some of the historical stigma against this rival.

Bottom line - play well in the trenches and the Giants will do just fine.

oh, and lets try and cover the Tight Ends this time...
Very tough game  
micky : 12/21/2016 7:12 am : link
Always is. They are going to be amped to spoil giants getting in this week.
Also, the dynamics change as regards who's playing well  
Big Blue '56 : 12/21/2016 7:14 am : link
and who isn't when you're forced to play with only 3 days rest, especially away. I have zero feel for this game and it has nothing to do with the Eagles' dominance of us recently, imo..

I wish we could have gotten this Thursday night game much earlier in the season..
No..  
KingBlue : 12/21/2016 7:21 am : link
Fear? Why? This years version of the Eagles are not feared, nor should they be. They have a rookie QB, lousy receivers, crappy secondary. I guess if you are one that subscribes to the notion that a franchises past performances (with different rosters) is indicative of what will happen. This 5-9 Eagle team is not feared.
I think we are going to have our way with the Eagles in game 17  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/21/2016 7:27 am : link
it's Washington that I worry about
It's funny  
blueblood'11 : 12/21/2016 7:28 am : link
The Eagles really have nothing to play for other then pride itself. So if the Giants lean on them early and often it may break their spirit. You see it all the time in end of season games just like this one.

Then again I remember Amani Toomer catching a touchdwon pass in the back of the endzone against a 13-0 Denver Bronco team from the immortal Kent Graham to end their run at an undefeated season.

I think the best thing that could happen is if the Gaints can jump on top early and then let the defense go to work.
RE: I think we are going to have our way with the Eagles in game 17  
Boy Cord : 12/21/2016 7:32 am : link
In comment 13279219 gidiefor said:
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it's Washington that I worry about


Washington? They will get physically pushed around by the Bears this weekend and will flat out pack it in by week 17. Their defense is horrendous.
I never understand this type of quesrion  
joeinpa : 12/21/2016 7:34 am : link
Anyone who watches the NFL or in particular the Giants has no reason to expect anything except a tough game.

What has this Giants team shown this year that would lead a fan to think it won t be a tough game,
RE: I never understand this type of quesrion  
KingBlue : 12/21/2016 7:40 am : link
In comment 13279225 joeinpa said:
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Anyone who watches the NFL or in particular the Giants has no reason to expect anything except a tough game.

What has this Giants team shown this year that would lead a fan to think it won t be a tough game,


So, then put you down as worried? Division games are mostly always tough... that doesn't mean that the Eagles are feared.
Giants hardly ever make it easy... they will probably give Philly life  
GloryDayz : 12/21/2016 7:44 am : link
It would be great if the Giants can put the game away in the 3rd quarter, but playing Philly, in Philly, for a playoff berth, on a very short week, it will probably be a game till late in the 4th quarter.

Fortunately Giants have been able to win those type of games, Eagles havent, but still, a big play by either team in these type of games can change the outcome.

So yes I think you have to be concerned.
RE: Giants hardly ever make it easy... they will probably give Philly life  
KingBlue : 12/21/2016 7:47 am : link
In comment 13279235 GloryDayz said:
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It would be great if the Giants can put the game away in the 3rd quarter, but playing Philly, in Philly, for a playoff berth, on a very short week, it will probably be a game till late in the 4th quarter.

Fortunately Giants have been able to win those type of games, Eagles havent, but still, a big play by either team in these type of games can change the outcome.

I have come to trust our defense late in games... this has not always been the case. I am not concerned.

So yes I think you have to be concerned.
I'm only worried because  
MBavaro : 12/21/2016 7:47 am : link
they are playing on Thursday, after three day's rest, after 14 previous games. I really think this game is going to suck, for both teams
I'm always worried about games.  
Marianne at PSU : 12/21/2016 7:48 am : link
The Eagles could have the same record as the Browns and I'd be concerned.

It's a short week. We're playing in Philly. It's late in the season, and for all the injuries we know about, I am sure there are ones we don't know about. You know there are guys playing who are gutting it out. I thought Eli was injured the other week just with the way he was holding his wrist/hand after a few plays.

That said, we better beat Philly.
RE: RE: Giants hardly ever make it easy... they will probably give Philly life  
KingBlue : 12/21/2016 7:49 am : link
In comment 13279238 KingBlue said:
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In comment 13279235 GloryDayz said:


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It would be great if the Giants can put the game away in the 3rd quarter, but playing Philly, in Philly, for a playoff berth, on a very short week, it will probably be a game till late in the 4th quarter.

Fortunately Giants have been able to win those type of games, Eagles havent, but still, a big play by either team in these type of games can change the outcome.

I have come to trust our defense late in games... this has not always been the case. I am not concerned.

So yes I think you have to be concerned.


I placed the reply prior to your last sentence... didn't know that was possible... Just to be clear...

I have come to trust our defense late in games... this has not always been the case. I am not concerned.


Always concerned going in there  
Kyle in NY : 12/21/2016 7:55 am : link
That place has a way of making our offense look completely impotent. It will be a tough game

That's why Washington losing Monday was such a big result for us. We're nearly locked into that 5 seed win or lose
The game was never going to be easy.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/21/2016 8:03 am : link
Short week in primetime against a team with some talent that will have zero motivation problems is likely to be a tough game.
Not The Least Bit Worried  
Jim in Tampa : 12/21/2016 8:10 am : link
First of all, if the Giants can't beat either a bad Eagles team that is already out of the playoffs or a Redskins team that is on life support, then they probably weren't going to do anything in the playoffs anyway.

Also (as I understand it) even if the Giants lose out they still get in the playoffs unless ALL of the following happen:

- Bucs win out
- Packers win out
- Detroit beats Dallas in Dallas

The Eagles have lost 5 straight. The Giants will punch them in the mouth early and the Eagles will lose their will to play a competitive game.

Relax.
RE: The game was never going to be easy.  
Jim in Tampa : 12/21/2016 8:13 am : link
In comment 13279260 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Short week in primetime against a team with some talent that will have zero motivation problems is likely to be a tough game.


Why would you assume that a team that is out of the playoffs, has lost 5 straight and is playing on a short week would have "ZERO motivation problems"?
RE: RE: The game was never going to be easy.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/21/2016 8:25 am : link
In comment 13279268 Jim in Tampa said:
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Why would you assume that a team that is out of the playoffs, has lost 5 straight and is playing on a short week would have "ZERO motivation problems"?


Aside from the Bengals game, they haven't given any hint of not playing hard (unlike the Jets, for example). They haven't always played well, but they've played hard. Last week, they had no reason whatsoever to battle as much as they did. They got a bit lucky to keep the game as close as it was, but they battled in an environment that's difficult to win in.

In addition, division rivals tend not to role over and die. Just last week, 3 road favorites were in life and death battles against sub-par opponents.
Although rational thinking favors us,  
CT Charlie : 12/21/2016 8:28 am : link
it's not easy to be confident.

Our defense should hold them to something like a TD and 3 field goals -- 10 to 17 points. But if we give up some short-field turnovers, or a bonus pick-6, I could see our offense struggling to score enough to win. Which means, of course, that we rely again on the D or special teams for some scoring.
In Philly  
mrvax : 12/21/2016 8:40 am : link
I'm thinking, "payback is a bitch". I'm tired of watching the Eagles front 4 rip our Oline to shreds. Our Oline has play like frightened teenagers against them.

Tables are turned and it's payback time in the city of brotherly violence.

I'm going to really enjoy this one.
Define worried.  
an_idol_mind : 12/21/2016 8:42 am : link
I'm certain the Giants' chance of losing the game is higher than people here think. I don't think that counts as worried, though - just realistic.
RE: I think we are going to have our way with the Eagles in game 17  
Giants2012 : 12/21/2016 8:49 am : link
In comment 13279219 gidiefor said:
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it's Washington that I worry about


That Washington game might not mean anything to the Giants (besides maybe 5th place vs 6th). Then again, watch GB be the 6th seed and the Giants at 5th host the Championship.
I hate playing in Philly  
Matt in SGS : 12/21/2016 8:57 am : link
always have. But this is a different team this year. They owe these bastards a beating there. I think this will be a close game, but the Giants will find a way to separate from them in the 4th quarter. I don't think the Eagles have the horses right now to keep up.
There is this:  
Doomster : 12/21/2016 9:01 am : link
Anyone worried about Giants at Eagles

blueblood'11 : 6:59 am
I really don't know what to think. All I know is the Eagles offense is nothing like the last two teams the Giants for the most part just stoned. So why would anyone think this Eagles offense would present a problem.


Only if they score more than 14 points.....which is what our offense has been averaging lately....
Given past performances in Philly  
Mike in Philly : 12/21/2016 9:13 am : link
and being a lifelong Giants fan, I should be worried. But with the way the D has been performing, let's say I'm cautiously optimistic.
I was worried when we played the Browns...  
Drewcon40 : 12/21/2016 9:17 am : link
....so I yes. I want to hitch to everyone's comments. Every win we have had, regardless of the final score, seem to be very close with 5 minutes to go in the 4th. I expect nothing less tomorrow. I just want to get the W.
In the words of Steve Weatherford  
bradshaw44 : 12/21/2016 9:18 am : link
Let's get the W and get out of there.
We should be...  
BillKo : 12/21/2016 9:18 am : link
division games are usually grudge games.........the lesser team always hangs in there and has a fighting chance. Esp on a very short week.


King blue  
joeinpa : 12/21/2016 9:28 am : link
Yep I m worried. But I seem to see the negative too much. I can even see if the Giants lose the next two, the other games playing out so they miss the play offs.

But I do think fans thinking Philly shouldn't be tough is flawed hinking
NFC East game, on the road in late December,  
Beezer : 12/21/2016 9:29 am : link
playoff berth looming ...

Worried?

Anxious.
It's the Giants and Egirls.  
Giant John : 12/21/2016 9:41 am : link
Always a tough game. I expect nothing less.
One the road in the NFCE is also a tough game  
PatersonPlank : 12/21/2016 10:20 am : link
Add National TV, and the fact this is the Eagles Super Bowl, and yes I am worried. I would not be surprised at all if we lose, in fact I'd be more surprised if we blow them out.
Very confident  
Glover : 12/21/2016 10:21 am : link
They have won their past 2 games, great defensive games, at home, and their last loss was on the road, by 10 points, against one of the best offenses in the league and they spotted them 5 points. I think the Giants are focused and will win out. They would have stumbled already if they were the usual Giants.
Be patient on offense  
BurlyMan : 12/21/2016 10:35 am : link
and aggressive on defense and the Giants will win.
Its always a difficult place to get a win.  
Brown Recluse : 12/21/2016 10:37 am : link
Will be even more difficult if Jenkins isn't playing.
Every division game concerns me,  
Section331 : 12/21/2016 10:39 am : link
especially on the road. It's a game the Giants should win though, stop the run and get pressure on Wentz, and I think we'll be fine.
We have looked a bit better the last two games on offense  
Bluesbreaker : 12/21/2016 10:46 am : link
If thats our peak performance then were gonna walk out of
there shaking our heads . Detroit is not the best at
stopping the run and we were successful in being able
to again win the TOP and keep Detroit from ignoring the
run and allowed Eli to settle in and throw the ball
accurately . This defensive line is a mis-match you have
two big run stuffing DT decent edge rushers and fast
good tackling LB's . So there is plenty of reason to be
concerned .Philly also got Lane Johnson and Darren Sproles
back they are determined to finish strong I think they like
playing for Pederson so there gonna come out like gang
busters . If we don't turn the ball over and don't allow
big plays on specials I think we can wear them down and
finish them off . Like to see a repeat performance of
the last game where we got quick turnovers and converted
them to TD's .OBJ has been talking about having a break
out kind of game . I think he does and if that happens
I think we can win this in a decisive manner .
Offensive line has to control the line of scrimmage
the defense should force a lot of three and outs and
wear there defense out .
What concerns me most  
Simms11 : 12/21/2016 10:56 am : link
is the Giants play on the road this year. Defense really needs to help us set the tone and the offense needs to be efficient and limit mistakes.
When your team only scores 17ish points per game  
Old Dirty Beckham : 12/21/2016 11:11 am : link
you're going to be in tight games.
how quickly the tables turn  
fkap : 12/21/2016 11:14 am : link
it's been forever since the D has been the unit to carry the day, and all the O has to do is not lose the game.

The sad part is that we have an O which should be able to do more than just not lose the game.

It's a razor thin line we're walking. Of course there's reason to worry.
It's pretty simple. The two big worries about this game are  
Mark C : 12/21/2016 11:15 am : link
1) It's in Philly. The Giants left steaming piles of dogshit on that field for almost the entire Coughlin regime.
2) It's Thursday night. You simply don't know how the team will come out and play on short rest. Thursday night football is almost always a shitshow.

That said, this team is looking like it can overcome stuff like that. I like our chances.
hopefully,  
fkap : 12/21/2016 11:25 am : link
they're getting that magic feeling that anything is possible. After so many years of lackluster, this should be a refreshing breath of fresh air that they can build on. It's hard to tell from the TV screen, but I think the D definitely has the confidence building.
We all should be  
TMS : 12/21/2016 11:27 am : link
when you look at how many times they have rained on our parade in the past. They have a good defense and our offense has not been very good. We rarely beat them twice in the season, So this game will tell us a lot if this team is for real. Especially in Philly.
Of course I'm worried.  
Klaatu : 12/21/2016 11:37 am : link
On the road in Philly in a short week? Scared to death would be more like it.
RE: Of course I'm worried.  
Big Blue '56 : 12/21/2016 11:39 am : link
In comment 13279737 Klaatu said:
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On the road in Philly in a short week? Scared to death would be more like it.


1-You're not supposed to worry

2-Death is NOT allowed in the equation
I was worried about the Browns  
DaveFromNewMexico : 12/21/2016 11:40 am : link
So of course I will be worried about the Eagles, this is their Superbowl
Very confident about this game  
LCtheINTMachine : 12/21/2016 11:41 am : link
The Giants just held down Dak and Stafford and now get a second shot at Wentz. We did better the second time around against Dak so I'd expect the same. Also I anticipate our preparation as better than theirs due to Pederson.

I know it's the Eagles but I don't fear this coach or QB.
Oh  
Big Blue '56 : 12/21/2016 11:43 am : link
and what Giants fan doesn't concern themselves with an NFC East? Not to many I'd bet
NFC East game? Not too many, I'd bet  
Big Blue '56 : 12/21/2016 11:44 am : link
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What worries me the most now  
LCtheINTMachine : 12/21/2016 11:44 am : link
are injuries. We know we are going to the playoffs and we know we can't get the No. 1 seed so it's really all about winning on wild-card weekend at this point.

I won't moan and groan about the Eagles and Skins since we have bigger fish to fry.
Worried? Giant fans are CONDITIONED to worry...  
x meadowlander : 12/21/2016 11:44 am : link
...like Pavlov's dog - every November and December brings absolute horrors, so most of us will hold our breath with every friggin' snap Thursday night.


But you know... to me, the BIGGEST change this season, has been CONSISTENCY. By and large, this team has been VERY consistent.

You can kind of bet on it.

I'll give the Eagles the first TD against the Giants in a couple of weeks. Giant Defense holds them under 20.

Giants 23, Eagles 13.

Eli Manning: 22/33, 210 yds, 2 TD, 1 Int.

:D
Of course.  
St. Jimmy : 12/21/2016 11:54 am : link
When is the last time the Giants played well against the Eagles? It was probably Andy Reid's last game.

In the first game this year, the defense was leaving guys wide open enough to stop, jump, and catch balls that Wentz was throwing. The pass coverage was awful after the first two drives. They cover like they did last time and people will be measuring Wentz for his yellow jacket after the game.

Plus you always get stuff like the last interception of the game in an Eagles game. They did the same thing vs. Baltimore where John Harbaugh said it was the worst call in history. He and Pete Carroll can debate that, but of course it was to the Eagles' benefit.
Worried  
Carson53 : 12/21/2016 2:16 pm : link
isn't the word for this particular weekend, very interested
observer, well indeed!
I'm more worried about injuries at this point  
BlackLight : 12/21/2016 2:24 pm : link
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I always worry about the Eagles.  
giantsfaninphilly : 12/21/2016 2:55 pm : link
We're the team that's the bulk of their highlights for bizarre plays and epic comebacks. They're the Boogieman.
Lane Johnson is back this thursday  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/21/2016 2:57 pm : link
Giants 24- Eagles 10
Not with this defense.  
arcarsenal : 12/21/2016 3:23 pm : link
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Eagles had Coughlin's number  
Vanzetti : 12/21/2016 4:19 pm : link
They do not have a history of success against other Giant coaches. Buddy Ryan beat Parcells a couple of times but he had a great defense--so no surprise there.

It was just Coughlin for some reason who could not beat them--and even that only developed later in his tenure. Early on, if I recall, he did fine against them.
I worry about every game. I feel a little better going into this game  
GeorgeFox : 12/21/2016 4:38 pm : link
The Giants defense held two good offenses to 10 and 6 points and made those scores stand up. The shegals have always had the green mung shit factor on the Giants, if they can overcome that they should win. I think 20 points may be enough.
I would be very surprised  
Jay on the Island : 12/21/2016 4:39 pm : link
if this game isn't close. I just hope the offensive line shows up tomorrow because Barwin usually plays his best versus the Giants.
I am more worried about the Redskins game  
Jay on the Island : 12/21/2016 4:42 pm : link
they have nothing to play for and I fear Norman and co. will be taking cheap shots at Beckham. If the Giants clinch a playoff spot before that game and can't secure home-field advantage then I would seriously consider benching Beckham or limiting his snaps. Snacks, Vernon, and Jenkins also should receive limited playing time.
yeah worried  
mdc1 : 12/21/2016 6:39 pm : link
we could lose this road game and then it comes down to that Skins game to decide our fate. Pretty important that we stomp out the Eagles lights tomorrow night with the old school helmets.
Again for me, under normal circumstances,  
Big Blue '56 : 12/21/2016 7:42 pm : link
we're riding that confidence crest perhaps similar to our previous two runs and I'd be extemely comfortable playing them..But, with only 3 days rest and on the road, who the hell knows?
RE: Again for me, under normal circumstances,  
micky : 12/21/2016 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13280388 Big Blue '56 said:
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we're riding that confidence crest perhaps similar to our previous two runs and I'd be extemely comfortable playing them..But, with only 3 days rest and on the road, who the hell knows?


short week, as Eric had stated, divisional game this late in season..is absurd. That's a tall order in itself esp having a divisional opponent to play..on road (I know its only in philly..but still). Hopefully just get in and out of there with a W pretty or not.
Not worried  
Coach Mason : 12/21/2016 10:58 pm : link
The endgame is a Super bowl championship this game will likely have little impact on that. Of course a win would be nice but a loss wouldnt be earth shattering.
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