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PFF declares Andrew Adams as the next potential Pro Bowler

mavric : 12/22/2016 10:37 am
Feel good story (for Giants' fans anyway) from FanSided:

"The New York Giants defense has done a total 180 from 2015. After being the worst defense in the NFL last season, the Giants are now one of the best defensive units in the NFL in 2016. The big money spent in the offseason is a big reason for that.

The Giants spent a ton to help improve the talent on defense. Olivier Vernon, Damon Harrison, and Janoris Jenkins cost almost $200 million combined. But free agents are not the only ingredient needed to build a strong defense; you need to find some hidden gems during the draft as well.

The Giants look to have hit on Landon Collins with their second round pick in 2015. He has morphed into a difference maker in the secondary in his sophomore campaign. Finding a partner at safety has not been so easy for the Giants.

They have hoped one of their young players would step up and perform next to Collins. Nat Berhe, Cooper Taylor, and Mykelle Thompson were thought to help last season, but all suffered injuries. This year the Giants selected Darian Thompson in the third round hoping he would be the Robin to Collins’ Batman.

Like the youngsters the Giants were going to rely on last season, D. Thompson was beset by injuries. That is how the Giants have come across a true gem in undrafted free agent Andrew Adams.

Adams has about as bad an introduction you could have. Against the Washington Redskins, Adams committed a bad personal foul penalty on a punt in which the Giants blocked. They would have been set up well field position wise but it was undone by Adams’ penalty.

It was the kind of play that an undrafted player could lose their roster spot over. But, the Giants were suffering from a ton of injuries and held onto Adams. They are lucky they did as Adams has turned into an extremely useful player for the Giants.

Adams has taken over as the starting safety next to Collins and has outperformed any expectations set. He has 44 tackles this season to go along with one interception and five passes defended. His outlook is bright as he has helped turn the Giants defense around.

So bright that Pro Football Focus believes he can be a Pro Bowl player down the road. They compiled a list of players they believe can be future Pro Bowlers, choosing one player per team; Adams was their selection from the Giants.

Here is what they had to say about Adams.

'Third-round pick Darian Thompson was supposed to solve the Giants’ issue at free safety, but his injury opened the door for Adams, an undrafted rookie free agent who has been excellent over his 676 snaps. He is PFF’s 15th-ranked coverage safety, with a grade of 82.7. With Landon Collins so much better in the box, this secondary could be special.'

It doesn’t get much better than that. Having an undrafted rookie who was lucky to make the roster end up as the 15th ranked coverage safety in the NFL is exactly what the Giants needed. Collins excels near the line of scrimmage, so finding a player that is capable of dropping back into coverage has been a godsend.

With Collins able to play to his strengths the Giants defense has taken a major step forward. Adams has provided him that opportunity and now the Giants have plenty of building blocks on their defensive backfield.

Adams, D. Thompson and 2016 first round pick Eli Apple could be patrolling the Giants secondary for many seasons to come along with Collins. This grouping has a chance to make things happen with veterans Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Janoris Jenkins also in the fold."
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RE: You can set your clock by how wrong some posters are  
David in LA : 12/22/2016 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13281217 jcn56 said:
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They're that predictable.

Adams is a solid backup. He's not the second coming of Ed Reed or Ronnie Lott, he's a bottom of the roster guy doing admirably in starting time. For a UDFA, that's more than you could hope for.

The people who wanted him cut on the basis off one boneheaded play against Washington were wrong. That kind of impatience has no place on a football team, where injuries can very likely thrust an inexperienced bottom of the roster player into the spotlight faster than anyone cares to admit.


You raise a very great point. One of the biggest differences between this year and last year is the bottom of the roster type of players. Would I rather see Craig Dahl or Meriweather types, or would I rather have Adams out there? It's a no brainer.
RE: RE: there's my stalker  
adamg : 12/22/2016 12:22 pm : link
In comment 13281210 T-Bone said:
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In comment 13281188 area junc said:


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"Brandon Walsh". Bullshit on a shingle bud.

Sure, he wasn't "benched". He was just replaced by Hall for the rest of the game in the 1st quarter. LOL.

And, here's another bombshell for you: sometimes the coaches lie to the media. That was Adams' man, and that's why Merritt told Hall "that's not your play to make" (speaking about the fake pitch into the flat) before he went into the game.

But sure, he wasn't benched. How gullible can you be?



Not to get in the middle of you guys' 'thing' with each other, but this is from Eric's review of the game (I'm assuming that you were referring to the first Dallas game area.. correct me if I'm wrong):



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Leon Hall (17 snaps) saw limited action.



If Hall replaced him after the 1st quarter, as you say, then the defense was on the field for an EXTREMELY limited amount of snaps after the first quarter. Funny thing is, Eric doesn't even mention Andrews in that review.


He's totally wrong about that. Adams saw 57 D snaps in that game (78%). This past week he saw 45 snaps (73%) Adams consistently plays the fourth most snaps in the secondary, behind Collins, Jenkins, and Apple. He often plays around 75% of snaps. That is more than what DRC averaged last year.
I don't pretend to know how good Adams is or isn't going to be,  
Ira : 12/22/2016 12:24 pm : link
but with the other injuries at safety, I'm so glad that he stepped up. He has a place in this league and, at this point, I feel it's foolish to argue about what that place will be. But he's established himself as an nfl player and that is every rookie free agent's dream.
Adams does his job  
ChicagoMarty : 12/22/2016 12:28 pm : link
there is a lot to like about that fact

How often did Antrell Rolle try to do MORE than his job and got burned for it?

If everyone on D just does his job we are golden.

Not often does the mantra "Do your job" come up this season on D

Thats a good thing
I wouldn't say potential Pro Bowler  
Matt M. : 12/22/2016 12:30 pm : link
just yet, but he has certainly progressed nicely. Early in the season he lost his job briefly. Now, he should likely be the starting FS to begin next season.
This is why you can't take PFF individual ratings  
aimrocky : 12/22/2016 12:34 pm : link
seriously. It's a team sport and you're a product of what is around you. The CB's staying with their man and increased pass rush makes Adams look really good right now. If we had last years squad, I doubt Adams is grading out 10th.
PFF's  
mavric : 12/22/2016 12:38 pm : link
Meaningless, but nice to see the Giants with a player on the list even though it's subjective (although PFF would say completely objective based on analytics and metrics across the board).

Regardless, here's their list of Top 10 Rookies for 2016:

1. Ezekiel Elliot, RB, Dallas Cowboys
2. Dak Prescott, QB, Dallas Cowboys
3. Carson Wentz, QB, Philadelphia Eagles
4. Jack Conklin, RT, Tennessee Titans
5. Joey Bosa, DE, San Diego Chargers
6. Chris Jones, DT, Kansas City Chiefs
7. Keanu Neal, S, Atlanta Falcons
8. Tavon Young, CB, Baltimore Ravens
9. Andrew Adams, S, Giants
10. Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans Saints
Guys play faster their second year  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/22/2016 12:43 pm : link
the idea that he can only be a backup is silly. How much "faster" is Collins this year? A lot. Its part of getting better and understanding the scheme. Reaction time is much more important than flat out timed 40 speed.

We are lucky to have this kid. If he continues to improve he might really be something. Time will tell.
Well, lets watch tonight and see how he performs.  
Jimmy Googs : 12/22/2016 1:12 pm : link
I would imagine Adams will get plenty of opportunities because the Eagles were very successful with big passing plays all over the field in game 1, and we may not have Jenkins so CB support will be even more crucial.

Hopefully we see him somewhere in the screen if the Eagles start throwing downfield...
area  
ryanmkeane : 12/22/2016 1:55 pm : link
do you just say things in your ordinary life (like you do on this site) that aren't true and get legitimately mad when people call you out or tell you that it's false? Like..if you woke up and it was sunny, you go downstairs and say "man what a shitty day" and someone comes back at you with the truth...do you get like...extremely mad about that?
Its always good to find a capable  
Mike fr Warwick : 12/22/2016 2:22 pm : link
Player as an udfa. He can compete in camp a d fill in if needed. Makes team better. Good find.
Forget PFF.  
MOOPS : 12/22/2016 2:40 pm : link
Adams has done okay for a rookie, especially an UDFA. But nobody would call him a future all-pro. Hell, nobody on here would say he's having a better year than Sterling Shepard.
When Darian Thompson comes back next year he becomes the FS and Adams becomes an interesting anecdote in Giants history and hopefully a valuable backup.
Thanks Jerry  
Rflairr : 12/22/2016 3:28 pm : link
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Nice tackle on Sproles on that opening TD by  
Jimmy Googs : 12/23/2016 4:10 pm : link
this future Pro Bowler at FS....
We could have the NFL's best secondary next year  
SGMen : 12/23/2016 6:31 pm : link
We need to keep DRC as he can still play and you need 3 corners in this league.

We also need pass rushers so keeping JPP is key as well. I have a feeling we'll find a way to keep him. He missed some playing time this year and the year before so he may not be as expensive. Hard to say.

I think DT Hankins will get overpaid by someone else so either we get another veteran or Bromley really steps up.
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