I'm as excited as anybody, but this is probably the worst match up we could possibly have going into this weekend.
The Packers are averaging 27 points per game.
The Giants are averaging 19.4 points per game.
The Giants offense has been held under 20 points nine times this year. The Packers offense has only been held under 20 points twice.
The Packers have scored over 30 points 5 times this year, including the past four games in a row. The Giants haven't scored 30 points at all this year.
I feel like these numbers reflect exactly what played out the last time we played them, when they were supposedly in a "funk", yet they maintained a 14 point lead comfortably throughout that game.
This offense is not built to play from behind. How are we going to keep up with them? Bad match up, IMO. Not loving our chances.
1. Lacy ran wild in the first matchup. I don't expect GB to have much success this time around. It is very possible Rodgers will be their leading rusher.
2. The Giants could not run the ball at all. They have been much better lately and with the emergence of Perkins I expect a much better effort.
3. Rodgers had all day to throw. Literally. There was zero pressure and he still threw 2 picks to Jenkins. I expect Spags to trust his corners to cover one on one and send more blitzes
A slow methodical offense that runs the ball halfway decent.
The Giants win this game if the Packers are kept to 17 or less points IMO. Beyond that who knows.
Last time, Rodgers didn't have to deal with DRC or Apple.
Giants will smother him, win by under 7.
Right, so they've score over 30 for the past 4 games in a row, and we've scored under 20 for the past 5 games in a row. That's a huge gap. Our defense is really good, but is it good enough to overcome that disparity?
I heard 'Buckman' say they only averaged about 15 points per
in the last 5 games this year. That was near the end of the game, when it looked wrapped up. If you hold GB to 20
or fewer points, then the defense did their job.
Seattle's defense isn't quite the same without Thomas. Still impressive for the Packers but it's certainly worth pointing out.
And then we just pray like hell that McAdoo has something up his sleeve with this offense that he's been saving for the playoffs.
The week after they lost Earl Thomas, the HOF QB of their defense.
A slow methodical offense that runs the ball halfway decent.
The Giants win this game if the Packers are kept to 17 or less points IMO. Beyond that who knows.
Yep, put Beckham back there. I am tired of watching Harris
back there, he has been bad returning punts this year!
He made the Pro Bowl based on what he did last year, not this year. Sometimes they get to you a year later.
Personally, haven't watched the Pro Bowl for years.
10-7 over Dallas
17-6 over Detroit
19-10 over Washington
It is a winning formula especially in January. We don't need to score 30 points, we would have won the last three games with 24 points combined.
Love to see Odell back there on punt returns next week. One big special teams play can make this game. Remember McQuarters fumble in Green Bay? None of that!
D..The Packers haven't faced a D such as ours all year, imv..DRC and Apple didn't play against them the first time around.
Let Eli raise his game as I believe he will, continue to run better and limit Rodgers' damage WITH HIS LEGS..
I love our chances
The offense isn't going stride for stride in a 30+ point game shoot out. Unfortunately, they are hitting rogers in his "ballistic mode"
Hey the Giants exceeded a lot of expectations this year and have leaps and bounds ahead of schedule into the future. Just a bad feeling about this match up imo
The offense isn't going stride for stride in a 30+ point game shoot out. Unfortunately, they are hitting rogers in his "ballistic mode"
Hey the Giants exceeded a lot of expectations this year and have leaps and bounds ahead of schedule into the future. Just a bad feeling about this match up imo
The only edge I see for us is a bad Green Bay game (unlikely due to us ruining them in the past), and perhaps Ben's knowledge about how to neutralize and attack their tendencies. Spags is the way if he can come up with something to get to Rodgers. Won't come from Eli and Beckham as they are too inconsistent.
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Seattle's defense isn't quite the same without Thomas. Still impressive for the Packers but it's certainly worth pointing out.
And Russell Wilson threw about a million INT's that game.
The offense isn't going stride for stride in a 30+ point game shoot out. Unfortunately, they are hitting rogers in his "ballistic mode"
Hey the Giants exceeded a lot of expectations this year and have leaps and bounds ahead of schedule into the future. Just a bad feeling about this match up imo
Noooo...micky has a bad feeling? Ya don't say!
Giants can win if they play a clean game offensively. The Packers will be trotting out a lot of backup players in their secondary Sunday.
Yup. Eli & rest of offense need to rise to the occasion.
I think they can contain Rogers -- the Giants have a much better defense than Detroit does - and Detroit was giving Rogers fits until a couple of their defensive backfield started falling later in the game
I think if the Giants play a tough physical game like they did against Dallas, Detroit and Washington - that GB will fall
Eli should be able to get two or three TDs against that backfield -- I don't think Stafford was throwing the ball all that well last night - and Detroit's Receiver Corps are nothing like the Giants Receiver Corps
1. Lacy ran wild in the first matchup. I don't expect GB to have much success this time around. It is very possible Rodgers will be their leading rusher.
2. The Giants could not run the ball at all. They have been much better lately and with the emergence of Perkins I expect a much better effort.
3. Rodgers had all day to throw. Literally. There was zero pressure and he still threw 2 picks to Jenkins. I expect Spags to trust his corners to cover one on one and send more blitzes
If you couple an emerging running game with a smothering Defense the Giants may evolve into a Parcells like rendition of smash mouth football in route to placing the 5th trophy in the case. I believe that Eli Manning is feeling it (the champion challenge) and the 44 yard pass play to King may of assured him that he is ready. If you listen to his interview after the game you may notice the confident undertone in his summary.
During last OTA's many where pessimistic as to the Defensive cohesion and expected turn around. I for one wrote that I expected them to evolve into a top 10 D, if not top 5. Primarily because of the DL and Secondary. I also pointed out that our LB corps would surprise many. Well we are going into the playoffs with a D that is peaking and will be adding JPP to their DL. I believe we are about to witness a playoff run for the ages eliminating the top Offenses in the NFL, Green Bay, Dallas, Atlanta and New England/Pittsburgh.
I want to add another tidbit for optimism, the last time big brother Peyton won the Super Bowl little brother Eli followed by winning the following year. Last year Peyton was carried the an outstanding defensive performance, this year Eli has the best Defense heading into the playoffs. When we look at history one pattern has remained constant through its written account, history is cyclical. Another clue as to confidence may be found in Arron Rodgers interview when asked about the upcoming match up and 2011.
All told I believe the Giants are the most feared opponent in the Dance. Many of the participants have witnessed and experienced the exploits attributed to the Giants legacy in the recent past. While the Giants didn't quite make it to 12-4 record I had predicted or win their division, I'm overjoyed with the Giants being 11-5 going to the Dance with a chance at a 5th Super Bowl Championship.
My handle has changed, I was formally Makogman.
The Big Blue Wrecking Crew is back!
Go Giants!!!
That said, even without getting into any shootouts our offense was middle of the pack in total yards per game (17th, just 20 more ypg would put them in the top 5). So we move the ball just fine, The biggest problem is that we haven't converted in the redzone. That issue continued yesterday and contributed immensely to each of our big losses (Steelers, first Redskins game, Packer game). Changing that 1 stat is the biggest X factor in any potential SB run for this team. Eli and Mac need to step their respective games up when it matters most.
Key is to knock Rodgers around, hit him early and often.
It is amazing how this team has gone from all offense and no defense to all defense and no offense.
When does this happen to any organization????
They did but Russel Wilson had maybe the worst game of his career. That game was an extreme outlier with Wilson throwing 5 picks and the Seahawks losing a fumble for a total of 6 turnovers. The Giants might be able to score 38 points with that many turnovers in their favor.
This defense has held Dallas to 7, Detroit to 6, and the Redskins to 10 points. That's not a fluke.
And with the real threat of a running game with Perkins, that will force the safeties up, and put Odell against a banged up secondary which will open up some big plays.
I think the Giants are going to go in there and beat them in a surprisingly "boring" game. Similar to the Giants at the Rams in 1984, the game kind of kept going along, and all of a sudden, you realized it was over. Everyone waited for Dickerson to break out and he never really did, outside of a couple of runs. I see the same thing happening on Sunday.
at least three fgs in Lambo.
The D is playing shutdown football right now.
We only scored 16 points against the Packers last time, when they were supposedly "in a funk", and 7 of those 16 came late in the game, after we had been trailing for 14 points throughout.
So while I can appreciate those that say we will score 20 or 24 points, looking back over the season doesn't really seem to back that up.
I guess we'll see. I'm hopeful, but don't see a lot to hang our hat on.
Point is, with this offense, nothing is a given.
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offense going off on the Giants Sunday. The Giants defense has been great but are due for a clunker. It happens..it's too much to ask from this defense to carry the team.
The offense isn't going stride for stride in a 30+ point game shoot out. Unfortunately, they are hitting rogers in his "ballistic mode"
Hey the Giants exceeded a lot of expectations this year and have leaps and bounds ahead of schedule into the future. Just a bad feeling about this match up imo
Noooo...micky has a bad feeling? Ya don't say!
Mickey is absolutely a Cowboys fan. I'm convinced of it. If you followed his posts this season, it was obvious. Him and his continuous "Americas Team" posts were nauseating.
1. Lacy ran wild in the first matchup. I don't expect GB to have much success this time around. It is very possible Rodgers will be their leading rusher.
2. The Giants could not run the ball at all. They have been much better lately and with the emergence of Perkins I expect a much better effort.
3. Rodgers had all day to throw. Literally. There was zero pressure and he still threw 2 picks to Jenkins. I expect Spags to trust his corners to cover one on one and send more blitzes
Umm, they didn't have Apple or DRC for that game. That's a huge difference. Now we can blitz with confidence.
I'm not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic...
The Packers have scored over 30 points in their past four games.
The Giants have not scored over 20 points in their past five games.
The Packers have only been held under 20 points two times this year. The Giants offense has been held under 20 points 9 times.
Just wondering what makes people think this offense is going to be able to flip the switch and start scoring points again. The emerging run game is promising, but only when playing with the lead. We fall behind, we're in trouble. We saw that in the last Packers game.
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How'd that go?
I'm not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic...
The Packers have scored over 30 points in their past four games.
The Giants have not scored over 20 points in their past five games.
The Packers have only been held under 20 points two times this year. The Giants offense has been held under 20 points 9 times.
Just wondering what makes people think this offense is going to be able to flip the switch and start scoring points again. The emerging run game is promising, but only when playing with the lead. We fall behind, we're in trouble. We saw that in the last Packers game.
I get being realistic. How many points do you think the Packers are going to score? I don't think the 30ppg stat is relevant here.
1 - Detroit offered little in pass rush pressure and Rodgers had a lot of time to go through his progressions
2 - Several times the Lions lost containment and allowed Rodgers to beat them with his legs scrambling for first downs and prolonging drives
3 - Detroit missed a lot of tackles
This D is more disciplined and physical than what Detroit can bring. And they are playing on at a very high level. It will be harder, imho, for Green Bay to maintain their level of play against this D.
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How'd that go?
I'm not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic...
The Packers have scored over 30 points in their past four games.
The Giants have not scored over 20 points in their past five games.
The Packers have only been held under 20 points two times this year. The Giants offense has been held under 20 points 9 times.
Just wondering what makes people think this offense is going to be able to flip the switch and start scoring points again. The emerging run game is promising, but only when playing with the lead. We fall behind, we're in trouble. We saw that in the last Packers game.
I get being realistic. How many points do you think the Packers are going to score? I don't think the 30ppg stat is relevant here.
They scored 23 last time, so I guess I'd start there. I'm thinking we're going to need 24 to win. Something we've only done 3 times this year.
1 - Detroit offered little in pass rush pressure and Rodgers had a lot of time to go through his progressions
2 - Several times the Lions lost containment and allowed Rodgers to beat them with his legs scrambling for first downs and prolonging drives
3 - Detroit missed a lot of tackles
This D is more disciplined and physical than what Detroit can bring. And they are playing on at a very high level. It will be harder, imho, for Green Bay to maintain their level of play against this D.
He does that to a lot of teams. He did it to us in the first matchup. It's infuriating.
Defense travels. Giants drew the short straw this week ?? GB and Rodgers are the Hottest thing since fire? Bull fucking shit. The Giants defense is coming. And it's bringing hell with them!!!!!
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is how are they going to beat this Giants D. The Packers looked unstoppable last night, but consider that
1 - Detroit offered little in pass rush pressure and Rodgers had a lot of time to go through his progressions
2 - Several times the Lions lost containment and allowed Rodgers to beat them with his legs scrambling for first downs and prolonging drives
3 - Detroit missed a lot of tackles
This D is more disciplined and physical than what Detroit can bring. And they are playing on at a very high level. It will be harder, imho, for Green Bay to maintain their level of play against this D.
He does that to a lot of teams. He did it to us in the first matchup. It's infuriating.
That's true, but we didn't have all of our horses in the secondary for that first matchup and it's going to make a world of difference.
Defense travels. Giants drew the short straw this week ?? GB and Rodgers are the Hottest thing since fire? Bull fucking shit. The Giants defense is coming. And it's bringing hell with them!!!!!
Let's hope so.
Britt you're saying a lot of weird stuff but the Donnell stuff takes the cake. What's with the Donnell posts around here lately???? Fuck is wrong with some of you lol... yeah let's get Donnell the ball NOW lol...great timing.
Everyone calm down with the gb stats. Stats don't win games.
Throw the stats out the window. This won't be an easy game for Rodgers.
I didn't mean weird but any talk of Donnell is lunacy. Your other points weren't weird.
1. Giants must win or be equal in key Turnover Battle. Eli can't throw a stupid interception. Last year, Eli had the best 20+ yards throwing arm in the league with 11 TD's and 0 interceptions. Eli can't be stupid with the ball BUT he must go deep as well.
2. Injury Report: will the Giants have some of the injured back? Will GreenBay be without starting CB Rollins who was hospitalized? I don't see Rollins playing as it was a bad injury. Will other GB DB' be out or highly limited? This is where the game may just be decided cause the Giants have T. King, R. Lewis, OBJ and Shepard who all have deep speed.
3. Giants must RUN well, pound the rock, no fumbles while completely stuffing the Green Bay run game to make them one dimensional.
The cold will not be a major issue, I don't think. I'd have preferred for us to play at 1pm Sunday but I don't have a vote from the networks.
Go Giants, can't wait to see the injury reports. I'd love for SS N. Behre to finally get off the protocol and replace journeyman SS Eric Pinkins. The kid can hit and play specials when healthy. I think at this point is a 1% chance he goes.
Go Giants!
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offense going off on the Giants Sunday. The Giants defense has been great but are due for a clunker. It happens..it's too much to ask from this defense to carry the team.
The offense isn't going stride for stride in a 30+ point game shoot out. Unfortunately, they are hitting rogers in his "ballistic mode"
Hey the Giants exceeded a lot of expectations this year and have leaps and bounds ahead of schedule into the future. Just a bad feeling about this match up imo
Noooo...micky has a bad feeling? Ya don't say!
Mickey is absolutely a Cowboys fan. I'm convinced of it. If you followed his posts this season, it was obvious. Him and his continuous "Americas Team" posts were nauseating.
That's a cute assumption. Glad you don't know me in real life .. You know, when you assume..you make an ass out of yourself ..not me ;)
PS: Why would this "Cowboy fan" (rolling eyes) travel to Pitt this year and skip chemo treatments next day..in order to go see Giants..lol Got scolded by my oncologist that week.
Defense travels. Giants drew the short straw this week ?? GB and Rodgers are the Hottest thing since fire? Bull fucking shit. The Giants defense is coming. And it's bringing hell with them!!!!!
^^^^
Love it!