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Tentative First Round Targets for the Giants

Anakim : 1/3/2017 11:57 am
So we obviously have a long way to go until Draft time, but I figured I would get the ball rolling a bit.


Now, we are known to take the best player available (see Eli Apple and OBJ), but we also value youth (see Eli Apple..then again Leonard Floyd wasn't a young prospect..., David Wilson and Ereck Flowers). Reese also tends to have types that he likes. For example, he likes long, tall CBs (like Eli Apple) over smaller, feistier ones (like Vernon Hargreaves III).

In other words, who the fuck knows what Jerry Reese is going to do?


But here are nine POSSIBLE targets:

RB Christian McCaffrey of Stanford - our running game has sucked for most of the year, but Paul Perkins seems to be a bright spot this year and for the year. Even so, we need a complementary back. McCaffrey is a late-first, early second rounder, IMO.

WR Corey Davis of Western Michigan - he may have catapulted himself into a top-20 pick (then again, this is a TENTATIVE thread). I think he's the third best WR behind Mike Williams and Courtland Sutton.

WR JuJu Smith-Schuster of USC - he had a very good game yesterday, which might've put him in the first round discussion. Has been plagued with inconsistency this year.

WR - Courtland Sutton - my guy. I have him as a second rounder right now, but I think he belongs in the first round discussion. Second best WR in my opinion.

TE OJ Howard of Alabama - a beast physically that was severely underutilized by Nick Saban and Lane Kiffin

TE David Njoku of Miami - amazing talent, amazing potential. Needs polish. Sy loves him.

LT Ryan Ramczyk of Wisconsin - my guy, but Sy thinks if he declares there's no way he'll be there when the Giants pick. Even so, the surgery and how ready he is for training camp will be crucial for him.

DE Taco Charlton of Michigan - similar build to JPP and could be his replacement if JPP walks in free agency. I think guys like Barnett, Harris, Lawson, etc. don't fit the build of what Reese likes in a 4-3 DE.

LB Jarrad Davis of Florida - Sy is very high on him. Could this be the year Reese finally takes a first round linebacker? He missed out on Floyd last year.
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RE: Given the weak draft class of OL and QBs  
BillT : 1/3/2017 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13302785 Beer Man said:
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I expect to see a number of DEs, RBs, and possibly WRs off the board before the Giants pick. I hope the Giants can make a FA splash on the OL, this is not a good draft year to need OL help.

The Giants have to sign FA OLs. 3 of our top 6 OL are FA! They'll resign Pugh and look to upgrade RG or RT or both.
RE: Remember, UFA before draft  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/3/2017 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13302907 JonC said:
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Doesn't make any sense to proclaim TE will be a high draft pick (unlikely) in January.

This figures to be a bit harder to mock picking so late in the round(s), but NYG could have significant needs at DE and WR.


Jon, your thoughts on Malik McDowell (sp?) from MSU?
And, given the troubles they've had inking their targets at nickel CB  
JonC : 1/3/2017 1:59 pm : link
they could be considering one in the draft as well.
DE and DT are going to be looked at more than most people thing  
jlukes : 1/3/2017 2:00 pm : link
we do not have a gap-shooting DT on the roster and a DT that can generate pressure up the middle would really help with the pass rush
RE: Remember, UFA before draft  
jeff57 : 1/3/2017 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13302907 JonC said:
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Doesn't make any sense to proclaim TE will be a high draft pick (unlikely) in January.

This figures to be a bit harder to mock picking so late in the round(s), but NYG could have significant needs at DE and WR.


Jack Doyle would be nice. Or bring back Martellus.
RE: RE: Given the weak draft class of OL and QBs  
giantsfan44ab : 1/3/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13302911 BillT said:
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In comment 13302785 Beer Man said:


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I expect to see a number of DEs, RBs, and possibly WRs off the board before the Giants pick. I hope the Giants can make a FA splash on the OL, this is not a good draft year to need OL help.


The Giants have to sign FA OLs. 3 of our top 6 OL are FA! They'll resign Pugh and look to upgrade RG or RT or both.


Newhouse and Beatty are the only 2 FAs this offseason. I'd like to keep Newhouse as depth add someone like whitworth to play LT.
BHE  
JonC : 1/3/2017 2:02 pm : link
I haven't seen much of him, he looks more like a 3-4 DE unless he shows more explosion in his game, from my limited look.
RE: Remember, UFA before draft  
Anakim : 1/3/2017 2:42 pm : link
In comment 13302907 JonC said:
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Doesn't make any sense to proclaim TE will be a high draft pick (unlikely) in January.

This figures to be a bit harder to mock picking so late in the round(s), but NYG could have significant needs at DE and WR.


Definitely. But shit, it's a new year, why not talk about the Draft?? We're only a little less than four months away.
Go for it  
JonC : 1/3/2017 2:47 pm : link
always down for draft talk, but it makes sense to try and frame the discussion rather than sit here now and talk about how we must pick an OL in the first round, eg.
One thing about TEs is that  
giantsfan44ab : 1/3/2017 2:50 pm : link
They take a few years to develop. How many are instant successes? Gronk? But he may very wel be the greatest TE of all time.

Obviously if you think howard is the actual best guy on the board take him. But taking out of need, especially af TE seems like the wrong way to go. I'd rather sign Doyle and draft a RB/WR/OG.
RE: RE: RE: Given the weak draft class of OL and QBs  
BillT : 1/3/2017 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13302929 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13302911 BillT said:


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In comment 13302785 Beer Man said:


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I expect to see a number of DEs, RBs, and possibly WRs off the board before the Giants pick. I hope the Giants can make a FA splash on the OL, this is not a good draft year to need OL help.


The Giants have to sign FA OLs. 3 of our top 6 OL are FA! They'll resign Pugh and look to upgrade RG or RT or both.



Newhouse and Beatty are the only 2 FAs this offseason. I'd like to keep Newhouse as depth add someone like whitworth to play LT.

I stand corrected on Pugh but Jerry, Newhouse and Beatty are FA (according to the BBI roster page) and that's one starter and the #1 backup. There will be OL FA signed.
RE: Go for it  
Anakim : 1/3/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13303035 JonC said:
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always down for draft talk, but it makes sense to try and frame the discussion rather than sit here now and talk about how we must pick an OL in the first round, eg.


I didn't say we had to. I think LT is the biggest need, but I'm not willing to reach on a player just to satisfy a need.
Anak  
JonC : 1/3/2017 3:32 pm : link
It was a general comment, not a fingerpointing.
I think TE (s) is a top priority  
Ron Johnson 30 : 1/3/2017 3:35 pm : link
regardless of what else happens. It's a massive hole
RE: Anak  
Anakim : 1/3/2017 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13303113 JonC said:
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It was a general comment, not a fingerpointing.


Gotcha. Agreed then
I think OJ Howard would be the best pick  
adamg : 1/3/2017 4:15 pm : link
for the Giants in 1. Great blocking. Great hands. He would add a layer to the O we're lacking. I really hope he lasts until the 20s/30s. I think at least one of those tall WR last until round 2. Even that Godwin kid might be a good pick up in the late rounds.

Does everyone think the team views LT as a need? I don't know that Reese and McAdoo see LT as needing additional resources.
Obviously go for a difference maker regardless of position.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/3/2017 4:28 pm : link
but if I had my druthers, I'd skip TE in rd 1, because I don't think they need an elite TE for this offense to go. they need a 2 way guy who can block and catch and none of the top tier guys are really two way. More glorified WRs.

If Reuben Foster were to somehow drop, I'd snatch him up in a heartbeat. Think Landon Collins but as a bigger LB. Incredibly violent striker with the speed to cover TEs, RBs, WRs. I think he'll run in the 4.5s with great 10 yd splits.

Also a huge fan of Malik Hooker from Ohio State. Safety may not seem a need with LC and Thompson but you cannot pass ont his kid. He will lock up a secondary thats better than the Legion of Doom. Great pickup late rd 1.

I'd also invest in DeMarcus Walker from FSU. Love him as a DE on the other side of Vernon. Kid is special playing DT too.

As you mentioned above, Feeney, Johnson and Pocic are other OL  
yatqb : 1/3/2017 4:30 pm : link
who are nice prospects. Pocic's a C, but he pulls a lot and has the size and athleticism to play OG, imo. Feeney's supposedly the top-rated OG, but some talk of his pass protection needing improvement; he's an aggressive run-blocker, but I can't speak to his pass blocking. Johnson (a LG) and that whole Pitt line (including LT Bisnowaty) are great run blockers. I like what I've seen from Johnson, but Bisnowaty seems less than ideal as a LT prospect, although he seems to be moving up on pre-draft boards.

I'll throw another name out there...not as a 1st rounder but if we can trade down to early 2nd...Bucky Hodges. 6'7" WR/TE who could be a formidable complement to OBJ, and could easily play outside for us -- he does more often than not for VT. A bigger Plax who would give Eli a huge target.

And then there's one of my what I thought was a small school sleeper pick, WR Connor Kupp, who is seemingly shooting up draft boards. When he was supposed to go mid-3rd I was all over him; now looks like late 2nd, and that would be fine for me if his speed checks out at the Combine...btw, I've not seen him caught from behind in any highlight I've watched; indeed when chased he separates. 6'2", 215 lbs, great hands, plays outside and slot, holds school and conference records for receiving.
RE: I think OJ Howard would be the best pick  
JonC : 1/3/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13303215 adamg said:
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Does everyone think the team views LT as a need? I don't know that Reese and McAdoo see LT as needing additional resources.


It would be an anomaly for a mistake to be admitted after only two years.
Jon, good posts re DE, WR and CB. I could see any of those as our #1,  
yatqb : 1/3/2017 4:45 pm : link
along with MLB and even RB, although the last would be a big surprise given the depth at the position this year.
Thanks yat  
JonC : 1/3/2017 4:51 pm : link
Happy New Year to you. I think Goodson might be the MIKE next season, and wonder if they'll value a RB high enough in this crop. The league as a whole tends to devalue them, some good runners are available in rounds 3 with regularity.

Much more fun to discuss when the team's on the rise.
WR, DE, or CB in the first round shouldn't surprise anyone,  
Klaatu : 1/3/2017 4:57 pm : link
Still hoping for a Big Ugly OG somewhere in rds 1-3, though.
RE: Thanks yat  
yatqb : 1/3/2017 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13303327 JonC said:
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Happy New Year to you. I think Goodson might be the MIKE next season, and wonder if they'll value a RB high enough in this crop. The league as a whole tends to devalue them, some good runners are available in rounds 3 with regularity.

Much more fun to discuss when the team's on the rise.


Thanks, Jon, and back atcha, my friend!

I agree about several things, Jon. I think that Goodson may well replace Sheppard as our run-stuffing MLB, but think that if a stud MLB or OLB is there for us it might be tempting to make the defense that much more of a challenge to play against.

And, yup, LOTS of RBs in this draft, and if Perkins is seen as our lead RB, we don't need to use a #1 for our second RB...unless a gamebreaker is there for us.

And it IS nice to feel that we're on the cusp of something special if a few things break right for us in FA and the draft.
RE: Obviously go for a difference maker regardless of position.  
jeff57 : 1/3/2017 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13303262 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but if I had my druthers, I'd skip TE in rd 1, because I don't think they need an elite TE for this offense to go. they need a 2 way guy who can block and catch and none of the top tier guys are really two way. More glorified WRs.

If Reuben Foster were to somehow drop, I'd snatch him up in a heartbeat. Think Landon Collins but as a bigger LB. Incredibly violent striker with the speed to cover TEs, RBs, WRs. I think he'll run in the 4.5s with great 10 yd splits.

Also a huge fan of Malik Hooker from Ohio State. Safety may not seem a need with LC and Thompson but you cannot pass ont his kid. He will lock up a secondary thats better than the Legion of Doom. Great pickup late rd 1.

I'd also invest in DeMarcus Walker from FSU. Love him as a DE on the other side of Vernon. Kid is special playing DT too.


Hooker could be a top 10 pick. Agree on Foster but don't think he'll last to the 20s and doubt Reese would take him anyway.
My wish list for the first two or three rounds is...  
JerryNYG : 1/3/2017 5:40 pm : link
A big two-way TE who can block, catch a pass up the seam, and be a consistent red zone threat.

A tall, physical outside WR to go opposite OBJ, leaving Shephard to the slot (this assumes no Cruz or a pay cut and demotion to WR4/Slot2).

Defensive line help, either a penetrating interior lineman or a rotational DE to put in the mix with Vernon, JPP (hope he is resigned), Romeo and the rest.
RE: RE: Thanks yat  
SGMen : 1/3/2017 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13303374 yatqb said:
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In comment 13303327 JonC said:


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Happy New Year to you. I think Goodson might be the MIKE next season and wonder if they'll value an RB high enough in this crop. The league as a whole tends to devalue them; some good runners are available in rounds 3 with regularity.

Much more fun to discuss when the team's on the rise.



Thanks, Jon, and back atcha, my friend!

I agree about several things, Jon. I think that Goodson may well replace Sheppard as our run-stuffing MLB, but think that if a stud MLB or OLB is there for us it might be tempting to make the defense that much more of a challenge to play against.

And, yup, LOTS of RBs in this draft, and if Perkins is seen as our lead RB, we don't need to use a #1 for our second RB...unless a gamebreaker is there for us.

And it IS nice to feel that we're on the cusp of something special if a few things break right for us in FA and the draft.
If a RB is the BPA at #32, I say take him, especially if he is a back that compliments Perkins and can catch, run and pass protect - NFL ready. Vereen likely will play out his contract; Jennings is likely done. BPA every pick!
I don't see much in the UFA market this year.  
Klaatu : 1/3/2017 6:06 pm : link
Certainly not on the level of the starters/A-Listers that we picked up in 2016, although we might be able to sign a complimentary player or two. I figure the priority will be re-signing our own UFAs, and I'm hoping for another solid draft.
RE: Obviously go for a difference maker regardless of position.  
adamg : 1/3/2017 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13303262 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but if I had my druthers, I'd skip TE in rd 1, because I don't think they need an elite TE for this offense to go. they need a 2 way guy who can block and catch and none of the top tier guys are really two way. More glorified WRs.

If Reuben Foster were to somehow drop, I'd snatch him up in a heartbeat. Think Landon Collins but as a bigger LB. Incredibly violent striker with the speed to cover TEs, RBs, WRs. I think he'll run in the 4.5s with great 10 yd splits.

Also a huge fan of Malik Hooker from Ohio State. Safety may not seem a need with LC and Thompson but you cannot pass ont his kid. He will lock up a secondary thats better than the Legion of Doom. Great pickup late rd 1.

I'd also invest in DeMarcus Walker from FSU. Love him as a DE on the other side of Vernon. Kid is special playing DT too.


I think Howard is good at blocking. He looks really well rounded. Though getting a playmaker on D wouldn't be terrible.
In OL coach Solari we must trust  
SGMen : 1/3/2017 7:10 pm : link
The UFA OT market is not looking good. We have to hope backup LT Will Beatty has show enough in practice that we re-sign him as the backup again. We also need to re-sign Robert Newhouse who can play swing tackle and even OG if needed.

If we can get Cowboy OG Leary he is an upgrade over OG J. Jerry. But I would not be surprised if the Giants offer Jerry a deal either. This is a thin OL group.

We have to trust that Solari can work with our OT's this off-season, maybe have them go to that OL camp in AZ, and they improve their play enough to be at least "average / acceptable" in pass protection. That is both Flowers and Hart of course.

Year 2 with Solari will be better than year 1. It has to be because by and large we've sucked on the edges.
RE: In OL coach Solari we must trust  
giantsfan44ab : 1/3/2017 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13303552 SGMen said:
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The UFA OT market is not looking good. We have to hope backup LT Will Beatty has show enough in practice that we re-sign him as the backup again. We also need to re-sign Robert Newhouse who can play swing tackle and even OG if needed.

If we can get Cowboy OG Leary he is an upgrade over OG J. Jerry. But I would not be surprised if the Giants offer Jerry a deal either. This is a thin OL group.

We have to trust that Solari can work with our OT's this off-season, maybe have them go to that OL camp in AZ, and they improve their play enough to be at least "average / acceptable" in pass protection. That is both Flowers and Hart of course.

Year 2 with Solari will be better than year 1. It has to be because by and large we've sucked on the edges.


Andrew Whitworth!
Beatty  
XBRONX : 1/3/2017 7:21 pm : link
you must be kidding. He robbed the Giants this year.
RE: Beatty  
yatqb : 1/3/2017 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13303568 XBRONX said:
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you must be kidding. He robbed the Giants this year.


He didn't rob us. He was signed as a depth backup when Newhouse went down. He was a last resort when we picked him up, and was treated that way. Seems to me he earned his money just like some of the other guys who are at the fringes of the roster. And that's by being available if needed.
Won't complain about almost anyone for the offense  
Bluesbreaker : 1/3/2017 7:58 pm : link
I guess it will come down to BPA I would love one of the
top TE's also a top RB to go with Perkins I like
Foreman I think he is gonna be a beast .
WR with size I wonder if there will be a worthwhile pick
at that point . Wouldn't mind Ruben Foster for the D either
RE: I'm not sure what position Soloman Thomas would play in a 4-3,  
Percy : 1/3/2017 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13302638 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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but I was hoping he would fall to the Giants.

That went out the window with his bowl performance. Like Sy said, he could be looking at a top 10 pick.

Agree. He'd be a terrific pick for the Giants. One can still hope (trade up).
RE: RE: In OL coach Solari we must trust  
SGMen : 1/3/2017 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13303565 giantsfan44ab said:
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sgmen said:
Year 2 with Solari will be better than year 1. It has to be because by and large we've sucked on the edges.



Andrew Whitworth!
There was a write up by someone about UFA potential free agents and if I remember correctly the logic was he won't be available. But hey, it is just someone's opinion.
One guy not mentioned earlier is Roderick Johnson, the LT  
yatqb : 1/3/2017 11:07 pm : link
for FSU.

Over the course of the games I saw and in youtube highlights, he showed some of the same flaws in pass protection as Flowers; bending at the waist, overextending, and not sinking into his squat. But in the FSU/Michigan bowl game, against a taller guy in Charlton, he was much more balanced (not that Charlton didn't get over on him several times).

He will likely go somewhere between 25-40. He's a guy with potential, but nothing like a finished prospect. I'd rather trade a 1 and 3 for Ramczyk than take him, because RR is a plug and play starter imo.
Njoku  
xman : 1/4/2017 12:57 am : link
from the U as our TE in the late first
First round targets  
johnboyw : 1/4/2017 9:59 am : link
I think we all know JR well enough to know that his first round pick will be an impact player. That means QB, WR, LT, DE or CB. And just maybe a pass rushing OLB. So given that and the way the lower part of the first round is currently stacking up (that will change), here are some possible targets at pick #27:

WR Ju Ju Smith Shuster USC - has Dez Bryant type physical ability and some Dez Bryant type diva in him. Buyer beware.

WR Corey Davis Western Michigan - showed he could play with the big boys in their bowl game. Reminds me of Kevin White (W Virginia). Seems to be a good kid too. Clean pick.

DE DeMarcus Walker Florida State - physically almost a clone of Olivier Vernon except with more power. Can rush from the outside and the inside (15 sacks this year). Plays the run equally well. Thick and powerful from top to bottom. Team captain. Giants type of pick.

CB Adoree Jackson USC - gifted athlete who can do it all for a team (assuming his knee is okay). A little small for the Giants liking as a CB but the athletic skills may be too good to pass up.

CB Marshon Lattimore Ohio State - Giants sized CB from a big school. Would be a replacement for DRC if he goes elsewhere which I hope he doesn't.

Last possibility as things currently stand would be OLB Tim Williams from Alabama if he falls about 8-10 spots. It could happen if teams are less than impressed with his interviews and his recent off field baggage. He would create an instant problem for any O line on passing downs.

So that's it for now. But you can rest pretty comfortable it won't be a QB (yet), a LT (what start all over) or a TE (none good enough for this pick).
Lattimore does catch the eye  
JonC : 1/4/2017 10:08 am : link
and fits the NYG bill, but he'll probably be long gone by our pick, same with Shuyster. But, I'd agree they are NYG-type prospects to watch.
Nice post, johnboy.  
yatqb : 1/4/2017 10:49 am : link
Walker would certainly be a nice addition to the DL; guy's a bull.
The only free agent LT that is mildly intriguing for me is Matt Kalil  
Anakim : 1/5/2017 9:53 am : link
But he sucked with Minnesota and he's also coming off a serious injury.
My "realistic" mock right now:  
Anakim : 1/5/2017 10:23 am : link
1) TE David Njoku of Miami or TE OJ Howard of Alabama

2) WR Courtland Sutton of SMU

3) LB Duke Riley of LSU

4) RB Jamaal Williams of BYU or Brian Hill of Wyoming

5) CB Damontae Kazee of San Diego State

6) DT Larry Ogunjobi of Charlotte

7) OG Greg Pyke of Georgia
Anak, are you really that high on Njoku?  
yatqb : 1/5/2017 8:13 pm : link
I see him as purely a receiving TE. I see Howard as much more able to fulfill the traditional TE role while also being a receiving threat.

BTW, look at some of the Cooper Kupp highlights and tell me what you think...I believe that he can be an impact player on a team like ours.
We dont even know where we will draft  
Amtoft : 1/6/2017 2:28 am : link
Or everyone who will declare plus combine and other things. Then of course Free Agency... That being said ...

1. OT Ryan Ramczyk - not sure how bad his injury is
2. DE Harold Landry BC - huge fan... think he plays the run better than most other DEs and gets to the QB
3. WR Chad Hansen Cal - if you don't know yet... you will... he may be a 2nd rounder
4. DT Davon Godchaux LSU - like his game. Not sure if he will be here.
5. CB Brandon Facyson VT - like what i saw... not sure where he is ranked but wouldn't shock me if he is a 2nd rounder. CB position is really deep this year.
6. QB Davis Webb Cal - has a big arm with decent accuracy, but locks onto targets and isn't great and getting through reads. Again who knows where he will shake out. He will be at the SR bowl.
7. WR Dupri or Duval from LSU - they both will probably run like the wind, but their passing offense was so bad i would bet one of them falls and i take a chance on a raw talented WR

Really like OJ Howard a lot. Think he is the best TE. Also like Njoku a lot too. I think Curtis Samuel is amazing but is so different i don't think i could just use him as a WR. Curious where Donta Foreman will shake out too. So big and powerful. He could be a first rounder or a 4th rounder. If DT Vita Vea Washington comes out he would go on my list very quickly. Kid is a beast! This is a great draft!
John Ross WR is a freak.  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 1/6/2017 6:29 am : link
Reminds me of OBJ. Can destroy you with sub 4.3 speed. Great hands. Not tall, but do you need to be with sub 4.3 speed.
RE: RE: Beatty  
Racer : 1/6/2017 8:44 am : link
In comment 13303590 yatqb said:
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In comment 13303568 XBRONX said:


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you must be kidding. He robbed the Giants this year.



He didn't rob us. He was signed as a depth backup when Newhouse went down. He was a last resort when we picked him up, and was treated that way. Seems to me he earned his money just like some of the other guys who are at the fringes of the roster. And that's by being available if needed.



X, that's like saying you pissed your car insurance premiums away last year because you never had a claim.
RE: Anak, are you really that high on Njoku?  
Anakim : 1/6/2017 10:19 am : link
In comment 13307503 yatqb said:
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I see him as purely a receiving TE. I see Howard as much more able to fulfill the traditional TE role while also being a receiving threat.

BTW, look at some of the Cooper Kupp highlights and tell me what you think...I believe that he can be an impact player on a team like ours.


I agree with you there. From the U games that I've seen, Njoku rarely had his hand in the dirt and was blocking. He mainly lined up more in the receiver role than as an inline blocking TE. And why not? The kid is a freak athletically the likes of which we haven't seen since who? Vernon Davis? Gronk? So yeah, perhaps OJ Howard would be a better fit, but Njoku may have a bit more potential as a receiver. Both are beasts though, IMO.


I'll look at Kupp later. I've heard great things about him though.
RE: RE: RE: Beatty  
Milton : 1/6/2017 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13307845 Racer said:
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In comment 13303590 yatqb said:

In comment 13303568 XBRONX said: you must be kidding. He robbed the Giants this year.

X, that's like saying you pissed your car insurance premiums away last year because you never had a claim.

Except they had a claim and Beatty was nowhere to be found. So it's like buying insurance and then finding out the insurance company went belly up when you put in a claim.
OJ Howard in the first would be nice  
adamg : 1/8/2017 11:43 pm : link
I think he would be a plug and play real sized TE who can block.
RE: OJ Howard in the first would be nice  
Anakim : 1/9/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13316036 adamg said:
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I think he would be a plug and play real sized TE who can block.



I agree. I think Howard is more ready (especially blocking) now and has the higher floor, but Njoku has the higher ceiling and offers more in the passing game.
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