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Dave Brown was on my flight to Chicago this morning

EricJ : 1/5/2017 4:03 pm
did not get to speak with him but was prepping myself for what I was going to ask him/say to him.

What would you have asked him if you had the opportunity?

For those of you who travel a lot, he is Global Services with United.

(prepping myself for some funny responses)
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/5/2017 4:06 pm : link
"I bet your favorite pass play was Dan Reeves continually calling the 2-yard out to Howard Cross, right?"
not sure what I would have asked him....  
BillKo : 1/5/2017 4:06 pm : link
he sucked, relatively speaking, but he was one tough SOB.

Didn't he run over Sanders one time in Dallas???
My first  
pjcas18 : 1/5/2017 4:06 pm : link
question would be for you and how you recognized him.

there are about 5 Giants I can recognize without their uniforms on and he's not one of them.
Should have snatched his peanuts off his tray  
widmerseyebrow : 1/5/2017 4:07 pm : link
Then told him not to act like he hasn't been intercepted before.
I wouldn't say anything  
jcn56 : 1/5/2017 4:08 pm : link
What would be the point? Poor guy got picked too high, and put into position to be the face of losing for his favorite team growing up. And he took a beating behind that OL.

So what do you say to him, did that headache ever stop?
RE: My first  
EricJ : 1/5/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13307137 pjcas18 said:
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question would be for you and how you recognized him.

there are about 5 Giants I can recognize without their uniforms on and he's not one of them.


Not sure other than I have been a fan for a long time and I have seen that distraught face on the sideline way too often. Plus, he looked to be about 6'4", I know he is from NJ and this was Newark airport... you just put the pieces together. Then, I look on my united APP and see Bro D in seat A3 on the upgrade list and that sealed it for me.
My Question  
Trainmaster : 1/5/2017 4:09 pm : link
"I believe you were a NY Giants fan growing up. With your experiences with the Giants as a player, are you still a fan?
RE: I wouldn't say anything  
EricJ : 1/5/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13307143 jcn56 said:
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What would be the point? Poor guy got picked too high, and put into position to be the face of losing for his favorite team growing up. And he took a beating behind that OL.

So what do you say to him, did that headache ever stop?


LOL, I did not get the opportunity. It probably would have been something in the lines of what are doing with yourself post football?
I would say  
Gman11 : 1/5/2017 4:11 pm : link
I recognize you from your playing days with the Giants. I'm a long time Giants fan. Pleased to meet you.

If you really need to ask a question then, how did you like playing for Dan Reeves?
RE: My first  
BillKo : 1/5/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13307137 pjcas18 said:
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question would be for you and how you recognized him.

there are about 5 Giants I can recognize without their uniforms on and he's not one of them.


PJ - the one player you generally know is the QB LOL.....on every team.

But, he did co-host a post game show for the Eagles here maybe 5-6 years ago, so I would also remember that.
he was good enough  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/5/2017 4:14 pm : link
to get picked up and start for the Arizona Cardinals for a season or 2.
My favorite memory of you is  
Metnut : 1/5/2017 4:14 pm : link
when you ran over and crushed Deion Sanders on the way to a TD
Should have told him  
Deej : 1/5/2017 4:15 pm : link
he cost us a shot at Willie Roaf or Jerome Bettis.

I am still very much scarred as a fan by those Brown-Graham-Kanell years. It's why I cant believe how cavalierly some fans here suggest moving on from Eli. Even competent QB play is a blessing.
RE: he was good enough  
Deej : 1/5/2017 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13307159 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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to get picked up and start for the Arizona Cardinals for a season or 2.


Not saying much. They were the laughingstock of football.
RE: he was good enough  
Greg from LI : 1/5/2017 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13307159 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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to get picked up and start for the Arizona Cardinals for a season or 2.


No, he was Jake Plummer's backup who started a few games here and there when Plummer was hurt.
I'd probably ask  
ray in arlington : 1/5/2017 4:19 pm : link
does Odell Beckham remind you of Thomas Lewis?
Those were not George Young's  
EricJ : 1/5/2017 4:20 pm : link
Better years as a GM
such a boring era  
Enzo : 1/5/2017 4:20 pm : link
of Giant football. The QB sucked, the skill position players sucked...and yet they were never quite bad enough to bottom out at 1-15 or 2-14 and draft a stud whatever at the very top of the draft.
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pjcas18 : 1/5/2017 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13307157 BillKo said:
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In comment 13307137 pjcas18 said:


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question would be for you and how you recognized him.

there are about 5 Giants I can recognize without their uniforms on and he's not one of them.



PJ - the one player you generally know is the QB LOL.....on every team.

But, he did co-host a post game show for the Eagles here maybe 5-6 years ago, so I would also remember that.


I guess. I obviously recognize Simms, Hoss, even Kent Graham (he had a distinctive look), Kerry Collins, Warner and Eli, even Danny Kanell, Jesse Palmer and the hefty lefty, but I don't think I'd recognize Dave Brown if he were standing in front of me. Maybe I blocked his whole existence out of my mind.
Tip the Flight Attendant to say the Following....  
NYG27 : 1/5/2017 4:25 pm : link
"Excuse me Mr. Brown, we made a mistake in seating. This seat belongs to Kent Graham."
RE: Those were not George Young's  
Enzo : 1/5/2017 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13307174 EricJ said:
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Better years as a GM

I don't think Brown was even good in college. Just a big guy with a decent arm. And did he even have a decent arm?
I met him at McDonald's  
fkap : 1/5/2017 4:29 pm : link
he asked me if I wanted fries with that.
I probably would not have recognized him  
mac attack : 1/5/2017 4:35 pm : link
even though he really hasn't changed much

Dave Brown got a raw deal here.  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/5/2017 4:39 pm : link
He had to play with a horrible offensive line and many of the worst receivers in Giants history. The afore mentioned Howard Cross was one of the problems. As a receiver he makes Larry Donnell look like Gronkowski. I lost count of the passes he dropped that hit him right in the breadbasket. And who can forget Thomas Lewis or Author Marshall. Brown actually had natural talent. He could throw deep with accuracy when he had any kind of protection, he could run, he could throw on the run and he was tough ( he had to be with that line ). How he would have developed with any kind of talent around him we'll never know. I suspect that by the time Fassel got here he'd been hit to many times.
RE: Tip the Flight Attendant to say the Following....  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/5/2017 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13307188 NYG27 said:
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"Excuse me Mr. Brown, we made a mistake in seating. This seat belongs to Kent Graham Phil Simms, and he still wants it back."

(Fixed it for you.)
I'm not sure Brown got a raw deal.  
Section331 : 1/5/2017 4:43 pm : link
He got paid 1st round money when he wasn't close to a 1st round player. He was a starting QB for his favorite team. He just wasn't good enough. Sure, his team stunk, but if you put him on the 90's 49ers, do you think they win SB's? I doubt it.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, he just wasn't a good football player.
Do you know most Giants fans consider  
Giants2012 : 1/5/2017 4:45 pm : link
your football career and epic fail?

You know  
hassan : 1/5/2017 4:47 pm : link
Brown played on only two poor teams as the starter? 95 and 96. He was not total dogshit in 94. Actually was decent at times for an essentially rookie season.

The offense provided to him was complete crap. Rodney Hampton as his peak was winding down and nothing else at skill position.

Reeves ran terrible offenses for the Giants.

He was not very good but was setup to fail and made to look bad. And he gets way too much shit here.



Fucking internet turns everything into an argument  
Deej : 1/5/2017 4:48 pm : link
there is no argument. Brown was shitty.
I agree with Ron  
hassan : 1/5/2017 4:48 pm : link
Wholeheartedly on this.
Haven't seen an argument suggesting he was good  
hassan : 1/5/2017 4:53 pm : link
But this 'I saw Dave brown' thread makes its rounds every two years with predictable replies. I'd suggest he want pisarick level or Goldstyn level bad.
A few:  
CT Charlie : 1/5/2017 4:54 pm : link
1) Favorite teammate
2) Favorite away stadium
3) Classiest opposing team
4) When you watch games, do you watch it analytically or just as a fan?
5) What was your best memory in terms of running a play based on your film study -- something that worked perfectly?
6) Does he talk football much now? With whom?
7) Do players regard trick plays as smart football or wussy maneuvers?
8) What exactly is meant by a "game plan"? How detailed is it?
9) What opposing teams were the best coached -- regardless of talent level?
10) Worst opposing fans? Why?
a friend of mine knew him through work several years ago  
mfsd : 1/5/2017 4:55 pm : link
said he was always nice and enjoyed talking football, but harbored some bitterness over how much Giants fans say he sucked

Your lucky  
Beer Man : 1/5/2017 5:00 pm : link
he wasn't flying the plane
When I picture him playing  
EricJ : 1/5/2017 5:03 pm : link
I have visions of him getting blasted in the backfield and having his helmet twisted around his head
I heard the flight was intercepted  
jeff57 : 1/5/2017 5:03 pm : link
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Mfsd  
hassan : 1/5/2017 5:04 pm : link
Half of the people on this board probably would try to dig on him in person. How many players can actually hold a job he does after being in the NFL?
He's a total class act.

A lot of spoiled Giants fans after seeing the success of the 80s view the 90s as some horrible era. the travesty wasn't having to rebuild between 94-96 to get to a good period for the Giants in 97-2000. It was the lost opps of 91 and 92.

Fairly short period of mediocrity. Most fan bases would love a sb return within 10 years of a ring.

If the guy behaved badly I'd get the fans killing him but it's not his fault he was over drafted.
RE: I met him at McDonald's  
Les in TO : 1/5/2017 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13307196 fkap said:
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he asked me if I wanted fries with that.
if by mcdonald's you mean the new York office of the hedge fund where he is managing director and by fries you mean an investment opportunity then I would believe you.

I would have asked him if he misses football/whether he is still feeling the physical impacts of playing /favourite moment of his career.
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RE: I'm not sure Brown got a raw deal.  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/5/2017 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13307221 Section331 said:
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He got paid 1st round money when he wasn't close to a 1st round player. He was a starting QB for his favorite team. He just wasn't good enough. Sure, his team stunk, but if you put him on the 90's 49ers, do you think they win SB's? I doubt it.

It doesn't make him a bad guy, he just wasn't a good football player.


So your standard for Dave Brown was Joe Montana ?

I can't but to feel sorry for the guy. In '97 when the Giants finally got a good coach, Brown gets his ribs cracked by the lousy Rams defense in Game 3. Of course that same lousy Rams defense won a Super Bowl the following year when they got a QB with a pulse.

Anyway back to Brown, he's inured, Kanell lucks into the starting job and they go to the playoffs. I wonder what Brown could have done if they stayed healthy ? Maybe he could have run up the score against Minnesota to the point where it wouldn't have mattered when Cab Calloway fumbled the onside kick.
RE: When I picture him playing  
mrvax : 1/5/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13307253 EricJ said:
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I have visions of him getting blasted in the backfield and having his helmet twisted around his head


Collins was the same way. I can still see in my mind's eye a defender coming around the blind side corner, full speed ready to clobber him and Brown/Collins is totally oblivious.
Nightmare for fans.
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Go Terps : 1/5/2017 5:21 pm : link
A friend of mine interviewed Brown for the Pat Tillman "A Football Life". He said Brown was a very nice guy, and told some great stories about Tillman.

I never had a problem with Brown. He was surrounded by some poor teams, and his effort was never in question. It's the super talented players that either half ass it or just don't get it that drive you crazy. Kerry Collins drove me nuts.
Dave Brown career  
LS : 1/5/2017 5:23 pm : link
interception rate, 3.5%. Eli Manning 3.2%.
Do you ever talk  
Bramton1 : 1/5/2017 5:24 pm : link
to Deion Sanders?
RE: a friend of mine knew him through work several years ago  
RobCarpenter : 1/5/2017 5:25 pm : link
In comment 13307244 mfsd said:
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said he was always nice and enjoyed talking football, but harbored some bitterness over how much Giants fans say he sucked


He may be the nicest guy in the world but he was never a NFL QB -- just like every other QB coached by Spurrier (see article). The only decision that George Young made that was worse was taking Derek Brown in the first round that year. One hard hit from LT in practice and Derek Brown was done.

I was so glad when Dave Brown was gone, for the most part the 90s were sucky years for Giants football.
Supplemental draft and Dave Brown - ( New Window )
My biggest memory of Brown beyond what's been discussed  
Big Blue '56 : 1/5/2017 5:25 pm : link
is he was a gutsy, fearless Sob..He endured terrible beatings and kept on coming back for more..
Agree with Ron...  
JCin332 : 1/5/2017 5:28 pm : link
I know Dave he's a very smart nice guy...we haven't talked much about the Giants but one thing we have talked about is the aforementioned trucking of Neon Deion...

My son and I have actually thrown the football with him and he can still sling it...amazing when you see him throw so effortlessly yet his career in NFL didn't amount to much obviously...
I don't typically go up to recognizable strangers.  
Mr. Bungle : 1/5/2017 5:30 pm : link
But if I did say something to Dave Brown, I'd probably tell him that I'm a Giants fans and that I appreciated him trucking Deion Sanders, and also for leading the Giants to that 6-game winning streak to end the 1994 season.

Why be a jerk to the guy? He grew up a Giants fan and was put in a tough situation.
I saw him in a bar in Hoboken once when he was still playing  
mikeinbloomfield : 1/5/2017 5:36 pm : link
it was kind of obvious he just wanted to hang out with his friends, so we left him alone. Also, by then we all knew he wasn't good, so what were we going to say to him? Can you please stop being bad?

Just the most mystifying pick by Young, although maybe the word was not out that Spurrier QBs were always terrible.

The best comment I heard about Brown was by a neighbor at the stadium: "If you want a point guard pick someone from Duke. Not a QB."
Here's a bone for all  
Giants2012 : 1/5/2017 5:36 pm : link
drooling over the Deion hit. Too bad he was awful at QB regardless of situation.
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RE: Should have told him  
NoPeanutz : 1/5/2017 5:43 pm : link
In comment 13307162 Deej said:
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he cost us a shot at Willie Roaf or Jerome Bettis.

I am still very much scarred as a fan by those Brown-Graham-Kanell years. It's why I cant believe how cavalierly some fans here suggest moving on from Eli. Even competent QB play is a blessing.

This.
One of my favorite Giants games that I attended  
Go Terps : 1/5/2017 5:47 pm : link
was the 1995 home win over the Cardinals, where Armstead returned a pick for a TD in overtime.

A couple vivid fourth quarter memories that happened right in front of where we were sitting:

1. Chris Calloway is WIDE OPEN deep down the right sideline on a busted coverage. Brown sees him and the ball just comes out funny and gets caught up in the wind. Calloway has to stop and wait for the ball to come down like a punt. He catches it a moment before the safety (Brent Alexander who went on to finish his career with us several years later) just blows him up. It's a 49 yard gain, but it should have been a walk in TD.

2. It ended up not mattering because Brown ran it in himself from 2 yards out later that same possession. He then proceeded to turn and throw the ball way up in the stands. It landed 3 rows short of us. We were going nuts.

Great memories in the old stadium.
Nice guy. Horrible QB.  
shelovesnycsports : 1/5/2017 5:54 pm : link
First off they changed his motion because he would bring it from the ground up like a pitcher. First flaw.
He never could adjust to a more NFL arm motion and was not very accurate. second flaw. NO mobility at couldn't read the defenses third flaw. His line was bad but Danny Kanell did fine with it in 97. He had Rodney Hampton Herchel Walker, as a Back Charles Way for a year,Chris Calloway Slow but great hands. and a Good Defense. Teammates did not like him much. Graham was the better QB but George Young wanted Brown because he was very smart.
Brown  
blue42 : 1/5/2017 5:59 pm : link
had the slowest delivery on the planet...slower than Danny Kannel if you can believe that.
RE: Nice guy. Horrible QB.  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/5/2017 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13307339 shelovesnycsports said:
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First off they changed his motion because he would bring it from the ground up like a pitcher. First flaw.
He never could adjust to a more NFL arm motion and was not very accurate. second flaw. NO mobility at couldn't read the defenses third flaw. His line was bad but Danny Kanell did fine with it in 97. He had Rodney Hampton Herchel Walker, as a Back Charles Way for a year,Chris Calloway Slow but great hands. and a Good Defense. Teammates did not like him much. Graham was the better QB but George Young wanted Brown because he was very smart.
Thats not what I remember. He was an accurate passer when he had protection. As for his teammates not liking him the only thing I remember is that Reeve's WR coach, who's name I've blacked out didn't like him. By '97 Toomer was starting to develop so they finally had a deep threat. Prior to '97 the only reliable receiver they had was Calloway and Brown did OK with him. As for his not being mobile, Dan Reeves did not believe in Mobile quarterbacks. He believed QB's should stand in the pocket and get flattened. As for his ability to read defenses its hard to say. just because Eli has the flexibility to change the play at the LOS doesn't mean that Brown did. It never seemed like he had that kind of flexibility
Good thing he was not the pilot  
montanagiant : 1/5/2017 6:21 pm : link
You would have ended up 6 yards short of the runway
I would have thanked him...  
Chris in Philly : 1/5/2017 6:41 pm : link
for doing his best with absolutely no support. He gets my props for trucking Deion. I have no ill will toward the guy...
RE: Good thing he was not the pilot  
shelovesnycsports : 1/5/2017 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13307380 montanagiant said:
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You would have ended up 6 yards short of the runway

Now That was funny!
lol
RE: I don't typically go up to recognizable strangers.  
David in LA : 1/5/2017 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13307308 Mr. Bungle said:
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But if I did say something to Dave Brown, I'd probably tell him that I'm a Giants fans and that I appreciated him trucking Deion Sanders, and also for leading the Giants to that 6-game winning streak to end the 1994 season.

Why be a jerk to the guy? He grew up a Giants fan and was put in a tough situation.


I echo those sentiments.
RE: RE: Nice guy. Horrible QB.  
shelovesnycsports : 1/5/2017 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13307361 Ron from Ninerland said:
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First off they changed his motion because he would bring it from the ground up like a pitcher. First flaw.
He never could adjust to a more NFL arm motion and was not very accurate. second flaw. NO mobility at couldn't read the defenses third flaw. His line was bad but Danny Kanell did fine with it in 97. He had Rodney Hampton Herchel Walker, as a Back Charles Way for a year,Chris Calloway Slow but great hands. and a Good Defense. Teammates did not like him much. Graham was the better QB but George Young wanted Brown because he was very smart.

Thats not what I remember. He was an accurate passer when he had protection. As for his teammates not liking him the only thing I remember is that Reeve's WR coach, who's name I've blacked out didn't like him. By '97 Toomer was starting to develop so they finally had a deep threat. Prior to '97 the only reliable receiver they had was Calloway and Brown did OK with him. As for his not being mobile, Dan Reeves did not believe in Mobile quarterbacks. He believed QB's should stand in the pocket and get flattened. As for his ability to read defenses its hard to say. just because Eli has the flexibility to change the play at the LOS doesn't mean that Brown did. It never seemed like he had that kind of flexibility

I should have mentioned his offensive line that did not like him and let alone for other teams to intimidate.

Kent Graham show more than Brown and was passed over because Reeves thought he could fix Brown Even Fassel couldn't fix Dave Brown. As for Mobile QBs You Know Dan Reeves had John Elway running all over the place. Brown was a statue. His wind up throws were horrible and he could not throw the NFL pass windows that other QBs could throw into. Kanell replaced him and he had a noodle arm.
His first few Exhibition games he look not bas BUT  
xman : 1/5/2017 7:05 pm : link
on one of his scrambles he got nailed hammered clotheslined and Bam he never looked the same. Mind you he had only " flashed" in 2 spring games
RE: Do you know most Giants fans consider  
rut17 : 1/5/2017 7:12 pm : link
In comment 13307224 Giants2012 said:
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your football career and epic fail?


I'm sure you would have said this to his face.
RE: RE: My first  
MetsAreBack : 1/5/2017 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13307145 EricJ said:
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Then, I look on my united APP and see Bro D in seat A3 on the upgrade list and that sealed it for me.



Fucker works for United and still gets to be on an upgrade list? Over paying and loyal passengers?

I've got 30 upgrade points with American i dont know what to do with since even as Platinum i never get frickin' upgraded. These are reasons why!
If I were you,  
Jonald : 1/5/2017 7:24 pm : link
I would of asked him if he had his swizzle stick ready.
Brown wasn't good, there is no denying that  
twostepgiants : 1/5/2017 7:27 pm : link
Graham and Kanell did better than him

But why be mean to the guy?

We have went on to 3 Super Bowls and 2 Super Bowl championships.

Life hasn't been bad for a Giants fan. Maybe we had to endure Brown to get to the better years. Make the Giants realize the importance of a franchise QB and be willing to pay the price to go up and get him.
I don't know that I'd say Brown sucked  
Go Terps : 1/5/2017 7:44 pm : link
The guy had a 10 year NFL career. He started 60 games. That's 60 more starts than anyone most of us have ever known. I'd argue the guy worked his ass off and got the most out of his talent.

You know who sucked? Jamarcus Russell. Ryan Leaf. Guys with worlds of talent that wasted it by being idiots.
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EricJ : 1/5/2017 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13307442 MetsAreBack said:
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Then, I look on my united APP and see Bro D in seat A3 on the upgrade list and that sealed it for me.




Fucker works for United and still gets to be on an upgrade list? Over paying and loyal passengers?

I've got 30 upgrade points with American i dont know what to do with since even as Platinum i never get frickin' upgraded. These are reasons why!


He works for united??? He was boarding when they called global services
RE: RE: Do you know most Giants fans consider  
Giants2012 : 1/5/2017 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13307435 rut17 said:
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your football career and epic fail?




I'm sure you would have said this to his face.


It's a joke. I wouldn't bother with the guy.
I remember we had 6 wins in a  
carpoon : 1/5/2017 9:09 pm : link
row once with Brown at QB. Can't remember the year. He took some awful hits and showed some real toughness all the time he was here.
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MetsAreBack : 1/5/2017 9:09 pm : link
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Then, I look on my united APP and see Bro D in seat A3 on the upgrade list and that sealed it for

He works for united??? He was boarding when they called global services


Ah ok misread your post. I've never heard of 'global services' term because I don't fly out of Newark and hence United. Seemed like United had a global services dept. I guess it's their platinum a advantage or skymiles equivalent? Global services is an odd term for passenger mileage status
Brown was an example  
ChathamMark : 1/5/2017 9:20 pm : link
of why teams reach to find a long term QB. Not easy. Sometimes it works out, most times it does not. Look at the Jets, drafted 6 QB's in the last 8 years. Still don't have one. We struck gold with Eli, even with his unevenness over the years. Two Super Bowl wins. No complaints here.
RE: Brown was an example  
spike : 1/5/2017 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13307560 ChathamMark said:
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of why teams reach to find a long term QB. Not easy. Sometimes it works out, most times it does not. Look at the Jets, drafted 6 QB's in the last 8 years. Still don't have one. We struck gold with Eli, even with his unevenness over the years. Two Super Bowl wins. No complaints here.



franchise QBs are just about a "once in a career" find for a GM.
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Chris in Philly : 1/5/2017 9:24 pm : link
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Then, I look on my united APP and see Bro D in seat A3 on the upgrade list and that sealed it for

He works for united??? He was boarding when they called global services



Ah ok misread your post. I've never heard of 'global services' term because I don't fly out of Newark and hence United. Seemed like United had a global services dept. I guess it's their platinum a advantage or skymiles equivalent? Global services is an odd term for passenger mileage status


It's the United top level invitation only program.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: My first  
EricJ : 1/5/2017 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13307564 Chris in Philly said:
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It's the United top level invitation only program.


Exactly... they give the top 1% (that is the word on the street) of spenders and they get that invitation only status. I am 1K and that is the level just below that. Decent perks. You get many more upgrades and free snacks and alcohol even in coach.

United had Global Services before the merger with Continental. I heard that back then they would pick you up at your house and drive you to the airport free if you needed a ride.

Unless I start flying international I will most likely never get Global Services. I just don't spend enough
RE: I remember we had 6 wins in a  
Les in TO : 1/5/2017 9:35 pm : link
In comment 13307543 carpoon said:
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row once with Brown at QB. Can't remember the year. He took some awful hits and showed some real toughness all the time he was here.
1994 (his first year as a starter). We started out 3-7 and then won the last 6 games. We were predicted by some to challenge the cowboys for the NFC east in 1995 only to be spanked by them in the season opener on mnf.
Dave What did you say to  
Bluesbreaker : 1/5/2017 9:53 pm : link
Dion Sanders after you ran him over ?
RE: RE: I remember we had 6 wins in a  
David in LA : 1/5/2017 10:16 pm : link
In comment 13307578 Les in TO said:
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row once with Brown at QB. Can't remember the year. He took some awful hits and showed some real toughness all the time he was here.

1994 (his first year as a starter). We started out 3-7 and then won the last 6 games. We were predicted by some to challenge the cowboys for the NFC east in 1995 only to be spanked by them in the season opener on mnf.


Even at 10 years old, I had zero faith in Dave Brown to deliver that year.
Dave from Global Services  
David in LA : 1/5/2017 10:19 pm : link
sounds like a handle Dave Brown would use to lurk and occasionally post cryptic messages about what a turd Dan Reeves was.
He seems to be doing pretty well  
EricJ : 1/5/2017 10:34 pm : link
in the financial industry
His LinkedIn page - ( New Window )
RE: If I were you,  
BrettNYG10 : 1/6/2017 8:26 am : link
In comment 13307449 Jonald said:
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I would of asked him if he had his swizzle stick ready.


Haha!
Dave Brown  
siena16 : 1/6/2017 9:52 am : link
Jared Lorenzen was once on the same flight I was on to Louisville......He actually had two seats side by side
Haha  
MetsAreBack : 1/6/2017 12:51 pm : link
I assume you are joking about that
I always felt he got a raw deal from the fans.  
Matt M. : 1/6/2017 1:38 pm : link
He was not a terrible QB. Don't get me wrong, he was never great and was never going to be great. But, he wasn't the bust many make him out to be. He was a decent QB who could have had a better career here if Reeves wasn't such an asshole, if he wasn't asked to unceremoniously replace Simms, and if he didn't play behind one of the all time worst OLs. The OLs he played behind make the last few seasons here look like 5 All Pros.

He was a tough SOB for the hits he took week in and week out. his OL were also a bunch of assholes for not sticking up for him during that on field near altercation.
Matt M  
hassan : 1/6/2017 7:43 pm : link
This is accurate. He may have been ok had things broke and he was in a decent situation. He wasn't good, but that may have been changed with a few things being different for the Giants then.

But a lot of guys (David Carr comes to mind) are screwed by their situation basically on day 1. Like Carr, brown suffered from bad lines and talent around him.
RE: Matt M  
Matt M. : 1/6/2017 8:20 pm : link
In comment 13309052 hassan said:
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This is accurate. He may have been ok had things broke and he was in a decent situation. He wasn't good, but that may have been changed with a few things being different for the Giants then.

But a lot of guys (David Carr comes to mind) are screwed by their situation basically on day 1. Like Carr, brown suffered from bad lines and talent around him.
I neglected to mention the lack of receivers. When Calloway is your best receiver and Howard Cross/Aaron Pierce are your TEs, you are in bad shape.
the '97 team went on a roll  
bluepepper : 1/6/2017 8:48 pm : link
when Danny Kannell took over from Brown so yeah, not a good NFL QB. Still it must be pretty neat to say you played in the NFL for 10 years. I bet it helps quite a bit in his business. Pretty much any non-Giants fan would be like wow, that's cool.
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