Rogers has my vote as the Best QB I've ever seen....he and his team are on an epic run.
The Giants need to keep him off the Field...and they need to score at Least 20 points---- and 20 probably won't get it done.
I see glimmers of good offense over the past 2 weeks...but the weaponry is just not there---TE, 3& 4 Wideout...just not enough fire power.
Am I realistic?...or am I a Debbie Downer?
if nyg could hold brady and co. to 14 pts in SB 42, why cant Rodgers be held in check?
Seems a bit much.
Agreed. Let's not forget holding a pretty good O to 10 last week
if nyg could hold brady and co. to 14 pts in SB 42, why cant Rodgers be held in check?
Or double-check
The margin of victory for three of their six wins was by single digits and it included a near loss to Chicago.
They're a very good team that may well win, but they're hardly epic.
To your main question, yes I do think the Giants can win with less than 20 points...but not much less. In fact I think the ONLY way the Giants win is in a low-scoring game. I just don't see them winning a game where GB scores more than 21 points.
I see something like Giants 20 - GB 17.
not necessarily what Mac is looking for since he would prefer smash mouth Giants football but we just aren't fully equipped for that yet.
I think this defense thrives in ad-lib and that's just what they are going to get with Rodgers. Since GB abandoned the running game, Rodgers has been on a tear. He's been enjoying the hell out of having the entire offense depend on him, he's the best QB in the game.
Our defense is full of individual talent that has played cohesively much sooner than anyone anticipated. I think they can handle the street ball that Rodgers' is going to show them, I think they are looking forward to it.
It will be more difficult for their elite offense to score on our elite defense than it will be for our average offense to score on their below average defense.
We may not hold them to 20 but I think our defense creates enough havoc to keep us in the game. Give me Eli with the ball, 2 minutes and a tie game in the 4th and we are moving on.
The margin of victory for three of their six wins was by single digits and it included a near loss to Chicago.
They're a very good team that may well win, but they're hardly epic.
To your main question, yes I do think the Giants can win with less than 20 points...but not much less. In fact I think the ONLY way the Giants win is in a low-scoring game. I just don't see them winning a game where GB scores more than 21 points.
I see something like Giants 20 - GB 17.
How many wins in a row did Dallas have before their 2 losses to us?
Rodgers didn't play THIS Giant defense last time. He is facing the best set of defensive backs in the league.
The only way I see the Giants losing this game is TURNOVERS.
I can easily see them put up 13-16 points. four trips to the red zone ending up with one touchdown and three field goals is an eminently reasonable prediction.
They held the Saints to less than 14 points. Why can't they do it to the Packers?
That being said, I dont know what the numbers are, but this is probably the classic case of them begging you to load up on the under and it being a 33-27 game.
Rodgers didn't play THIS Giant defense last time. He is facing the best set of defensive backs in the league.
The only way I see the Giants losing this game is TURNOVERS.
I agree that Ball Control Is Key---and Finding a Way to score on Opportunity.
The Ball Skills of this Secondary equate to a PUNCHER'S CHANCE for Big Blue. They have a high ability to win in the air defensively..... a Pick or Two could be the difference.
Imo, 20+ points are needed in order to have a chance. Can giants offense do enough? We'll see
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The Ball Skills of this Secondary equate to a PUNCHER'S CHANCE for Big Blue. They have a high ability to win in the air defensively..... a Pick or Two could be the difference.
The Giants were a HEAVY underdog in the 07' game. It had been DECADES since the last time Green Bay had lost at home in the playoffs.
This game, I see as a 'pick em'. Vegas has the Giants as 4-point dogs. Fair enough, but NOT a 'Punchers Chance'.
DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS, and I strongly believe it will be able to manage a fekkin' Wildcard game. :D
Giants 20, Packers 16.
Rodgers is really, really good and as long as Eli is not bad in this game....they can definitely win.
http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/sports/Tom_Brady_Scoffs_at_17_Points/ - ( New Window )
And an underperforming offense against a depleted defense on the other.
Which ever unit steps up the most will win the game. Its anybody's guess. Games like this call for unexpected stars a.k.a David Tyree. For me I'm looking for Perkins and Cruz to play above expectations.
That said, when you face a great QB like Aaron Rodgers, there's a risk that he will pull a few ridiculous plays out of his @ss to beat you, no matter how badly his team is outplayed for the other 59 minutes. That risk is magnified when your offense isn't capable of putting the game away. That would be the most frustrating outcome for me. If the Giants get blown out, so be it. What I'd really hate is a game where they dominate, but lose because they don't seal the deal and Rodgers finds just enough magic to squeak by.
McAdoo's quote on what he's looking to build is a "heavy handed" team that can win on the road. That's exactly what this team is. They were built for Sunday.
We might win. We might lose. Personally I think it's a coin flips chance; whoever gets the right call at the right time, a drop or 2 less than the other guy, a missed FG, etc.
It's likely to be a close game but I'd say if it's not a close game odds are it will be the Giants on the blowing out side. This offense has plenty of weapons; they only recently acquired a real running game and haven't really clicked in the passing game. The defense is prideful, mean, and physical. Eli thrives on the road. I wouldn't be surprised by a 20-17 loss or a 34-10 win.
Actually I said 23-24 points, I don't think you are going
to hold the Packers to 10 or 13 points up in Lambeau Field.
The two dominant games against Dallas and Detroit were at home, don't forget.
Their offense is playing well now.
The Giants O Line needs to come up big, and Eli needs to
play a clean game too.
You think THIS Giant offense is going to hold the ball
for 40 minutes? That is very ancient history.
1. we don't turn the ball over on offense or special teams
2. we are able to control the ball in spurts such that our defense gets a breather and we win the field position battle even if we are not putting up a lot of points.
3. we don't take sloppy mental penalties on defense that allow the packers to extend drives that would have otherwise stalled).
we won 11 games this year without crossing the 30 point barrier and 7 games where we scored 24 or less points. the games we have lost are where we have turned the ball over and had many 3 and outs.
Eli can't turn it over. Period, unless is is a "punt like" deep ball interception. Points off a turnover would kill the Giants. Doesn't mean we'd lose but we aren't a comeback type team.
Giants must also be HIGHLY EFFECTIVE with their ground game. With two safeties playing deep zone, tampa cover 2 as I and many others predict, a few runs may go for more than 3 - 4 yards, especially with Perkins now taking the ball more.
At the end of the day, the team that makes the least mistakes AND hits that one big play deep is the winner. If Eli can hit OBJ, King, Cruz or Shepard for 40+ and a score due to safety rolling to wrong guy or whatever we are on our way to victory.
Would love for us to win the toss, give GB the ball (if winds make sense), get them 3 and out, and then we drive for points. Even a FG. The thing is establish the run and don't turn it over while waiting to try the deep ball on banged up secondary.
The current Green Bay line may not be as good as Rodgers makes them look, but they don't have a conspicuous weak link.
I would like to see the Jints take an early lead and make the Pack play from behind
AR just might force a pass or two when he shouldn't and bad things might happen...