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Free Agent TEs

nyjuggernaut2 : 1/9/2017 11:18 am
It's no secret Giants need to upgrade the TE position. Looking at the list of TE who are scheduled to hit the open market there's three that I think are intriguing:

1. Gavin Escobar: He's a NY native who is known for his pass catching ability. Not sure where he rates as far as blocking goes, but wouldn't mind snatching him away from Dallas.

2. Jared Cook: Aaron Rodgers spoke highly of him during the week leading up to the playoff game. He's a big target and savvy veteran, who isn't great at one specific thing, but seems solid all around.

3. Jack Doyle: Seems like another solid all-around TE. Remember hearing Luck talking about him during a post game presser this year about how he comes to play each week and has really stepped in nicely once Dwayne Allen got hurt. Sounds like another young TE with upside.

There's not a "stud" TE available in free agency this year, but some of these guys could be worth a look and probably wouldn't have to break the bank for them.
Spend the money on a WR  
chris r : 1/9/2017 11:19 am : link
draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.
theres talk that Dennis Pitta  
Rory : 1/9/2017 11:20 am : link
from Baltimore is not being re-signed.

Is he a huge injury risk though?
Good call  
andrew_nyg : 1/9/2017 11:21 am : link
especially on Jared Cook...I was surprised that we didn't make a run at him the last time he was available.

Draft one relatively high AND bring in a productive FA...we need two.
Spending $$ in FA again to make  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 1/9/2017 11:22 am : link
up for a boneheaded GM who has not done his job...sounds like a recipe for success to me.
RE: Spend the money on a WR  
EddieNYG : 1/9/2017 11:22 am : link
In comment 13316869 chris r said:
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draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.


I would sign Kenny Britt to be the outside WR. Britt, Beckham on the outside with Shepard in the slot and KIng and Lewis as 4th and 5th WRs.

None of the above TEs are going to break the bank, so they can sign one of them and draft a TE. I'd like to see them uprgrade all over the Offense.
This Is The Deepest Draft for Tight End  
est1986 : 1/9/2017 11:24 am : link
In A Long Time...
does anyone know  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/9/2017 11:24 am : link
why Adams was inactive yesterday? We could have used his big body in the middle of the field.

If the Giants don't think that Adams can step in immediately next season and produce, then they need to overspend and get a TE FA who is at least 6'5 or 6'6 and is known for being a pass-catcher.
Jeffrey..  
Goin Deep : 1/9/2017 11:25 am : link
The Bears wr who got suspended,seems to be injury prone and
will be asking huge FA dollars.
Would look at R.Woods fm bflo first.
Robert Woods is too small  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/9/2017 11:28 am : link
I've said this ad nauseum, but Victor Cruz is currenly the biggest receiver on the team at 6'0, 204. That has been a huge problem for any team, let alone one with a small tight end and a QB who can miss high and likes to throw to spots have receivers go up and get the ball.

Replacing him with a 6'0, 190-lb WR does not address that glaring hold.

The Giants need an outside receiver who has a big frame and/or long arms that can use his body/size/leaping to keep drives alive.
RE: does anyone know  
Anakim : 1/9/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13316893 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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why Adams was inactive yesterday? We could have used his big body in the middle of the field.

If the Giants don't think that Adams can step in immediately next season and produce, then they need to overspend and get a TE FA who is at least 6'5 or 6'6 and is known for being a pass-catcher.



Presumably because he was injured
Cook will be 30 in a few months,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2017 11:28 am : link
Doyle will be 27 in a few months as well..

I'm all for shoring up the TE position, but they're going with Adams moving forward, imo and most likely bring back Tye..So they're not going to carry 10 TEs on next year's roster, so if they sign a FA to join the other 2 and bring in competition via the draft, that should be it, imv
I wouldn't overpay for a FA  
Ron Johnson 30 : 1/9/2017 11:29 am : link
use a pick. It's a critical position of need
Doyle or Escobar are enticing assuming they aren't insanely expensive  
Patrick77 : 1/9/2017 11:37 am : link
Going into next year the Giants should have Adams, Tye, and Johnson (FB/TE). I wouldn't be surprised if they stay pat or just draft another TE.
Adams and Tye are keepers  
Rjanyg : 1/9/2017 11:40 am : link
But I want Reese to draft a legit 2 way TE early this year. The starting TE for both teams in the national championship is a good place to start. 88 for Bama and 16 for Clemson.

Plus Will Johnson is under contract for next year.

With Beckham, Shepard a legit TE and outside WR our offense should improve.
Let me add the Johnson is a FB/HB type  
Rjanyg : 1/9/2017 11:41 am : link
that will help the running and passing game. We needed this guy more than we know.
They need a TE  
Gman11 : 1/9/2017 11:46 am : link
that can block.
Our first three moves better be  
Carl in CT : 1/9/2017 11:50 am : link
The OL.
RE: They need a TE  
HoustonGiant : 1/9/2017 11:56 am : link
In comment 13316953 Gman11 said:
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that can block.


Why? The rest of the OL doesn't.
RE: Our first three moves better be  
Giants2012 : 1/9/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13316974 Carl in CT said:
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The OL.


Thank you.
Escobar  
Jon in NYC : 1/9/2017 12:01 pm : link
Is interesting. Pass on the rest.
RE: RE: Spend the money on a WR  
WillVAB : 1/9/2017 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13316884 EddieNYG said:
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draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.



I would sign Kenny Britt to be the outside WR. Britt, Beckham on the outside with Shepard in the slot and KIng and Lewis as 4th and 5th WRs.

None of the above TEs are going to break the bank, so they can sign one of them and draft a TE. I'd like to see them uprgrade all over the Offense.


I'd rather go cheap at WR and grab a guy like Aldrick Robinson (ATL). Doyle would be nice at TE as long as his cost is reasonable.

OL should be the priority but I just don't see many good FA options this year.
Tye  
lugnut : 1/9/2017 12:07 pm : link
I don't know who on here ever said Tye was fast and athletic, cuz eff me! he is slow as molasses! 50-yard (or whatever it was) gain or not yesterday, that was painful watching him "run." Even my wife was incredulous. He just looks like a big piece of meat out there.

I am strongly in favor of getting good two-way TEs in FA AND in Draft. Donnell should be gone, Tye should be the backup to the backup (if that), and even Adams (starter by default) we should have a wait-and-see attitude toward.

Cook looked OK yesterday for GB, but he's around 30 and is on his 4th or 5th team already. That always gives me pause. Don't know anything about Doyle, but I'm not sure getting praise from your QB is exactly objective assessment (what else do you expect him to say?).
Saying this because I don't actually know  
giantsfan44ab : 1/9/2017 12:14 pm : link
But why do people assume Gavin Escobar is any good? He has size I guess. People assume because he was behind witten he has been hidden. Witten hasn't really been all that special the last 4 years. Martellus Bennett played behind a semi-prime witten and it was pretty obvious he had some skill in both blocking and catching. In other words he was able to catch more than 9 passes in a season while playing behind witten.
I would give the job to Adams and see what he does  
PatersonPlank : 1/9/2017 12:15 pm : link
He has everything any draft pick will have, plus a years experience.
Escobar  
Suburbanites : 1/9/2017 12:15 pm : link
Has been a disaster on Dallas, I'd steer clear. The Cowboy FA they should target is Ron Leary.
This is the best TE draft in years from my understanding  
SomeFan : 1/9/2017 12:22 pm : link
Try to fill OL and the big WR with FA, this is the year to draft a TE very early.
Any of them is a big upgrade  
KWALL2 : 1/9/2017 12:22 pm : link
It would be nice to sign one so we can upgrade one of the weakest spots on the team. Cook is the most explosive of the 3 (if Rodgers hits him on the 3rd play of the game it's a 90 yard TD on Collins) but I like Doyle a lot. Not a great player but he could be a 5 year solution as a TE1 or 2.
I put LB and TE  
SamdaGiantsFan : 1/9/2017 12:22 pm : link
in the same class with how Reese approaches the position, drafting project types like the famed Adrien Robinson (JPP of TEs, anybody??), and putting together a group of three or four low- to mid-level Free Agents and prospects at the position to battle it out in camp.

My guess, not necessarily what I want but moreso an educated guess of what Reese will do -- I bet we let donnell walk, resign tye, draft a TE in round 3, maybe even round 4, and will tye, jerrell adams, the rookie, and matt lacosse duke it out in camp next season ...
RE: Spend the money on a WR  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/9/2017 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13316869 chris r said:
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draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.


We aren't going to over spend on FA WR. We will probably draft one and grow organically. We have always replaced and plug and played with the Wide Outs.

We could certainly get a lower tier wide out, but not the top WR.

Looking back on the season Boldin would have been an excellent cheap veteran addition. Really missed having a possession receiver all year.
Cameron Braite  
shelovesnycsports : 1/9/2017 12:38 pm : link
RFA with the Bucs can be a huge weapon. I would throw a big contract at him and see if Tampa can match. Much like the Bears did to Bennett and he is only 25.
RE: Cameron Braite  
Suburbanites : 1/9/2017 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13317172 shelovesnycsports said:
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RFA with the Bucs can be a huge weapon. I would throw a big contract at him and see if Tampa can match. Much like the Bears did to Bennett and he is only 25.


57 receptions, 660 yards and 8 TD's from an UDFA from Harvard. Nice job by TB on this one. I wonder what kind of tender he'll have.
RE: RE: Spend the money on a WR  
chris r : 1/9/2017 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13317109 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13316869 chris r said:


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draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.



We aren't going to over spend on FA WR. We will probably draft one and grow organically. We have always replaced and plug and played with the Wide Outs.

We could certainly get a lower tier wide out, but not the top WR.

Looking back on the season Boldin would have been an excellent cheap veteran addition. Really missed having a possession receiver all year.


How do you know this? Plenty of people have claimed to know for certain what the Giants would do based on tiny samples of past performance. They've been proven wrong over and over again. No RB in the first round! David Wilson. Reese doesn't value OL! Two first round OL.

It's not a sexy pick  
sjnyfan : 1/9/2017 1:14 pm : link
but I want Dan Fasano. Excellent blocking TE for a long time now. He's a local product, won't cost much and is good for about 20 catches with a couple of TD's. I think Adams is the pass catching TE of the future. It's about time we get a blocking TE now though.
Doyle or Cook  
jeff57 : 1/9/2017 1:16 pm : link
would be good. I believe Bennett is also a FA.
Escobar is Garbage  
burtmanjack : 1/9/2017 1:34 pm : link
Can't block a lick, would fit right in here. Believe it or not, Dallas' run game took a huge hit when Hanna went down and Escobar stepped in. I say absolutely NO.
RE: RE: Cameron Braite  
BillT : 1/9/2017 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13317278 Suburbanites said:
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RFA with the Bucs can be a huge weapon. I would throw a big contract at him and see if Tampa can match. Much like the Bears did to Bennett and he is only 25.



57 receptions, 660 yards and 8 TD's from an UDFA from Harvard. Nice job by TB on this one. I wonder what kind of tender he'll have.

He's an RFA. He's not going anywhere and TB has $75 mil to spend.
RE: RE: RE: Spend the money on a WR  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/9/2017 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13317300 chris r said:
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draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.



We aren't going to over spend on FA WR. We will probably draft one and grow organically. We have always replaced and plug and played with the Wide Outs.

We could certainly get a lower tier wide out, but not the top WR.

Looking back on the season Boldin would have been an excellent cheap veteran addition. Really missed having a possession receiver all year.



How do you know this? Plenty of people have claimed to know for certain what the Giants would do based on tiny samples of past performance. They've been proven wrong over and over again. No RB in the first round! David Wilson. Reese doesn't value OL! Two first round OL.


Just look at recent history, and we have more glaring holes then at WR. We need a tackle. Newhouse/Jerry aren't signed for next season, so we need to replace both with capable starters, and or upgrades to what we had.

We also have to resign one of Hankins/JPP.

That's a ton of big money to throw around.

I don't think we will go flashy with WR. The last time we did it was Plaxico, and we usually promote from within. Steve Smith, Nicks, Manningham, Randle. We don't need another #1 we need a solid #2. Pryor actually makes more sense then Jefferies.
RE: RE: RE: Spend the money on a WR  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/9/2017 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13317300 chris r said:
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In comment 13317109 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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In comment 13316869 chris r said:


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draft a TE.

Jeffrey is the logical target IMO. Him, OBJ and SS would be the best WR trio in the league.



We aren't going to over spend on FA WR. We will probably draft one and grow organically. We have always replaced and plug and played with the Wide Outs.

We could certainly get a lower tier wide out, but not the top WR.

Looking back on the season Boldin would have been an excellent cheap veteran addition. Really missed having a possession receiver all year.



How do you know this? Plenty of people have claimed to know for certain what the Giants would do based on tiny samples of past performance. They've been proven wrong over and over again. No RB in the first round! David Wilson. Reese doesn't value OL! Two first round OL.


Just look at recent history, and we have more glaring holes then at WR. We need a tackle. Newhouse/Jerry aren't signed for next season, so we need to replace both with capable starters, and or upgrades to what we had.

We also have to resign one of Hankins/JPP.

That's a ton of big money to throw around.

I don't think we will go flashy with WR. The last time we did it was Plaxico, and we usually promote from within. Steve Smith, Nicks, Manningham, Randle. We don't need another #1 we need a solid #2. Pryor actually makes more sense then Jefferies.
RE: Spending $$ in FA again to make  
TMS : 1/9/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13316883 That’s Gold, Jerry said:
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up for a boneheaded GM who has not done his job...sounds like a recipe for success to me.
Thats not politically correct here. We pick our players by consensus and nobody is responsible for the misses only the plusses. As long as we can spend millions in FA to cover up our draft errors we will go along this way. Its a family business after all.
The real question should be  
SHO'NUFF : 1/9/2017 10:44 pm : link
why the hell Cook wasn't brought in THIS year, or Bennett, or Fleener. Jerry was sold on Tye and Donnell.
I say we go after  
ZoneXDOA : 1/10/2017 3:25 am : link
Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales. Then try to land Terrell Owens to play WR 2.
Also?  
ZoneXDOA : 1/10/2017 3:27 am : link
Think Tiger Woods could be had on the cheap... championship!!
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