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Old Dirty Beckham : 1/9/2017 2:46 pm
Perhaps SY or one of our OL gurus could shed some light on him. Didnt seem to have the big leap yr we all expected. Going into his fourth yr his contract is coming up. Hes a longtime giant?
He got blown up on the Rainey 3rd and 1 play  
timintey : 1/9/2017 2:48 pm : link
No idea why a) they ran Rainey or b) why they ran it there
Does not look like he has  
est1986 : 1/9/2017 2:59 pm : link
Enough power to combat the strongest of defenders at the point of attack.
as I said on the OL thread, the jury is still out on Richburg  
Victor in CT : 1/9/2017 3:13 pm : link
From what I see, he's physically weak, gets blown up at the point of attack by the bigger more physical types. Year 3 will be telling.
This was year 3  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/9/2017 3:24 pm : link
All of our O-lineman suck except Pugh and he is average at best. I want a new GM who knows how to come up with quality starters in the draft and FA. Anyone can cherry pick and sign the best of the best in FA and any idiot can read a draft publication and make decent picks in the first two rounds. We occasionally hit on an undrafted FA, but that is common these days since the draft is only seven rounds. Guys like Jesse Armstead and Myron Guyton would be undrafted FAs nowadays.
They ran Rainey there  
Glover : 1/9/2017 4:15 pm : link
because previously they only brought him in as a pass catcher. Problem was that is, even if they went 4 wide, spread out the field and ran Rainey, the O line couldnt block 4 down linemen in a critical spot. It just wasnt happening. So, McAdoo greatly overestimated the potential effectiveness of the element of surprise.
Richburg  
jtfuoco : 1/9/2017 5:11 pm : link
Is interesting because he is not the dominate run blocker I thought they were getting when they picked him in the 2nd round but I don't see him getting pushed to bad on pass protection so it will be interested in seeing what kind of contract he will be seeking after next season I don't see how you can give him anything more then 5 million a year and even that seems high for what the team is getting but its depressing when thinking about drafting a replacement already.
The center position has changed since the 1980s  
Ivan15 : 1/9/2017 5:28 pm : link
Bart Oates could not play in this era.

Centers now need to be about 320 lbs.
RE: This was year 3  
Mad Mike : 1/9/2017 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13317858 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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All of our O-lineman suck except Pugh and he is average at best. I want a new GM who knows how to come up with quality starters in the draft and FA. Anyone can cherry pick and sign the best of the best in FA and any idiot can read a draft publication and make decent picks in the first two rounds. We occasionally hit on an undrafted FA, but that is common these days since the draft is only seven rounds. Guys like Jesse Armstead and Myron Guyton would be undrafted FAs nowadays.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Do Not Meet Expectations Period  
NJLCO : 1/9/2017 6:24 pm : link
He had a tough year and always get beat on critical plays. Seems always high in blocking and gets handled by a larger interior lineman. Snacks would eat his lunch all day long. Once again a draft pick from CSU which is not the mecca for O lineman. Plus he talks smack, go back to camp and review some of his comments --you would think he's an all pro center.
I would take that a step further  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/9/2017 7:23 pm : link
and say that Richburg is just an asshole with a redneck attitude. He is a real douche from what l have seen of his comments in general. They guy does not have the ability or the right attitude to lead this line. We seem to have a bunch of guys on the OL who can't relate to each other in order to make the unit greater than the sum of it's parts. Richburg is from KY and Pugh is from the northeast. Flowers is from the U and I don't believe that any of them really get along outside of work. There is zero evidence that they are a tight knit unit. Richburg had a shitty attitude from day one. I will never forget his rookie year all the numerous time he missed his guy or got flat out beat and then instead of going over and helping Eli up with an apology the douche would just strut around in denial not willing to face any of his new teammates. It would suit me just fine if we did not re-sign a single one of these busts and just start fresh on the O-line like we basically have to anyway. None of these guys are the kind you want to hang onto.
I was talking about this with a friend at work today  
JesseS : 1/9/2017 8:51 pm : link
When they drafted him, his lack of strength and "girth" was noted. I remember thinking, when the heck are the Giants going to draft some monsters, rather than gritty players. They always seem to be going for the undersized, gritty guy, with less than stellar physical traits, like they're in on a secret that no one else is on.

I wanted Marcus Martin - rated higher, across the board, and massive. Well, a couple years later and Martin really stinks.

Flowers, though I thought he was a lousy pick, was a mountain of a man with a mean streak, just what I wanted! And that hasn't turned out great so far. Likewise, I thought Beckham was a poor pick... :-D

I think it's really hard to tell what makes a good OL prospect a good NFL player.

I have no idea why that is, or if some teams are better than others, but it seems that other teams frequently have OL that they plucked late in the draft or hit on early in the draft and we're always scrambling. The key word is clearly "seems", but I'd like to have the same success we've had at drafting at DT (big and mean), at OL.

When is the last time we had success drafting an OL that became anything more than solid (just my opinion that first round is for a stud, not a solid player)?

RE: I would take that a step further  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/9/2017 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13318455 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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and say that Richburg is just an asshole with a redneck attitude. He is a real douche from what l have seen of his comments in general. They guy does not have the ability or the right attitude to lead this line. We seem to have a bunch of guys on the OL who can't relate to each other in order to make the unit greater than the sum of it's parts. Richburg is from KY and Pugh is from the northeast. Flowers is from the U and I don't believe that any of them really get along outside of work. There is zero evidence that they are a tight knit unit. Richburg had a shitty attitude from day one. I will never forget his rookie year all the numerous time he missed his guy or got flat out beat and then instead of going over and helping Eli up with an apology the douche would just strut around in denial not willing to face any of his new teammates. It would suit me just fine if we did not re-sign a single one of these busts and just start fresh on the O-line like we basically have to anyway. None of these guys are the kind you want to hang onto.

Maybe it would be easier for you to just start fresh with a new team to root for?
Maybe  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/9/2017 10:26 pm : link
you should just stfu
Guys don't have to get along to play well.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2017 10:30 pm : link
Maybe they'd be a tighter-knit unit if Flowers wasn't constantly fucking up and making them look bad.
RE: Maybe  
Mad Mike : 1/9/2017 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13318936 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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you should just stfu

Well played sir. You're owning this thread!
Mike  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/9/2017 10:51 pm : link
I wouldn't care if the guy made an observation of some sort. Comment on the subject matter, not the individuals you disagree with....
RE: I would take that a step further  
B in ALB : 1/9/2017 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13318455 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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and say that Richburg is just an asshole with a redneck attitude. He is a real douche from what l have seen of his comments in general. They guy does not have the ability or the right attitude to lead this line. We seem to have a bunch of guys on the OL who can't relate to each other in order to make the unit greater than the sum of it's parts. Richburg is from KY and Pugh is from the northeast. Flowers is from the U and I don't believe that any of them really get along outside of work. There is zero evidence that they are a tight knit unit. Richburg had a shitty attitude from day one. I will never forget his rookie year all the numerous time he missed his guy or got flat out beat and then instead of going over and helping Eli up with an apology the douche would just strut around in denial not willing to face any of his new teammates. It would suit me just fine if we did not re-sign a single one of these busts and just start fresh on the O-line like we basically have to anyway. None of these guys are the kind you want to hang onto.


What the fuck are you babbling about?
RE: Mike  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/9/2017 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13319009 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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I wouldn't care if the guy made an observation of some sort. Comment on the subject matter, not the individuals you disagree with....

What subject matter? The fact that you called Richburg a redneck asshole and a douche? I'm pretty sure my response was exactly on topic.
On the Rainey play,  
Doomster : 1/9/2017 11:00 pm : link
looking down the LOS, I did not see one Giant OLman, cross the LOS.....
RE: Mike  
Mad Mike : 1/9/2017 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13319009 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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I wouldn't care if the guy made an observation of some sort. Comment on the subject matter, not the individuals you disagree with....

Please, no need to explain. Like I said, you've made this thread your own.
Lipstick on a Pig  
Bluesbreaker : 1/10/2017 1:05 am : link
Richberg gets no push Flowers wasn't worth the 10th Pick
hopefully he can play Rt or something Pugh is decent but
no pro-bowler .. Jerry and Newhouse are backups good luck
getting this line together while Eli wastes away ..
Can we spend another 200 Mill to fix this joke of an
offense ..
RE: I would take that a step further  
montanagiant : 1/10/2017 1:36 am : link
In comment 13318455 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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and say that Richburg is just an asshole with a redneck attitude. He is a real douche from what l have seen of his comments in general. They guy does not have the ability or the right attitude to lead this line. We seem to have a bunch of guys on the OL who can't relate to each other in order to make the unit greater than the sum of it's parts. Richburg is from KY and Pugh is from the northeast. Flowers is from the U and I don't believe that any of them really get along outside of work. There is zero evidence that they are a tight knit unit. Richburg had a shitty attitude from day one. I will never forget his rookie year all the numerous time he missed his guy or got flat out beat and then instead of going over and helping Eli up with an apology the douche would just strut around in denial not willing to face any of his new teammates. It would suit me just fine if we did not re-sign a single one of these busts and just start fresh on the O-line like we basically have to anyway. None of these guys are the kind you want to hang onto.

Everyone say Hello to Rich In Houston's dupe
Good try  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 2:21 am : link
Fuckface
RE: Good try  
montanagiant : 1/10/2017 2:50 am : link
In comment 13319331 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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Fuckface

Ahh where's the love Rich?
Wrong  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 5:29 am : link
Go ahead and ask Eric if I am Rich. You people really need to get a life.
RE: Wrong  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/10/2017 7:25 am : link
In comment 13319348 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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Go ahead and ask Eric if I am Rich. You people really need to get a life.

The best part about this is the implicit admission that you are a dupe, just not Rich's dupe.
RE: RE: Wrong  
montanagiant : 1/10/2017 10:29 am : link
In comment 13319373 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13319348 GeorgeAdams33 said:


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Go ahead and ask Eric if I am Rich. You people really need to get a life.


The best part about this is the implicit admission that you are a dupe, just not Rich's dupe.

He admitted that himself awhile ago. The confirmation happened when he started talking about being molested by his grandfather in a football thread (which is Rich's longtime go-to claim). It really became definitive when he stated that the only thing saving him was his G-father "not being able to get it up and Viagra not being invented"
So it's not me calling him a dupe, he did that himself
Right ...  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 10:53 am : link
and when you folks get banned you will be back under a new name as well. Oh the shame. Get a life.
RE: Right ...  
jcn56 : 1/10/2017 10:55 am : link
In comment 13319728 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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and when you folks get banned you will be back under a new name as well. Oh the shame. Get a life.


See, none of these guys are fabricating stories about child molestation on football threads, so I'm pretty sure they're safe.

And a quick Google search also revealed this fucknut is a conspiracy theorist. Boy we're lucky he was let back in!
RE: Right ...  
montanagiant : 1/10/2017 11:50 am : link
In comment 13319728 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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and when you folks get banned you will be back under a new name as well. Oh the shame. Get a life.

Please explain to us what BBI subrule we violated by pointing out how painfully obvious it is that you are Rich in Houston?
Nope, wrong again... Not Rich  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 12:00 pm : link
jcn, please fill me in on what to google because I really don't think you know what you are talking about. Feel free to share.
Here's a suggestion Rich, on the thread titled "Beckham"  
montanagiant : 1/10/2017 12:09 pm : link
Regale us all again with that story about your dad and the fork
Here's a suggestion, montana  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 12:21 pm : link
I don't know wtf you are talking about, so try to accept the simple fact that I was never Rich in Houston. You will feel better when you learn to let it go.
RE: Nope, wrong again... Not Rich  
jcn56 : 1/10/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13319901 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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jcn, please fill me in on what to google because I really don't think you know what you are talking about. Feel free to share.


Now now, God doesn't like liars!

It's too bad your handiwork from last night didn't survive, but enough people saw it so you know you're burnt now. I'd go through your typical cycle, hauling ass and coming back under a different handle.
BTW - since you've got the internet tough guy act down pat  
jcn56 : 1/10/2017 12:28 pm : link
Why not tweet Richburg, let him know everyone from Kentucky is a redneck (as you imply above) and see if he's willing to meet you somewhere? Not that far a drive from NC.
Richburg is a redneck  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 12:35 pm : link
and he proved it when he called out the entire offensive line except for JJ because they did not attend LeCharles Bentley's camp for O-lineman. What's worse is he himself had a horrible season where he got pushed around and missed key assignments like when Baker from the Skins planted Eli in the turf.

I don't know anyone else from Kentucky.
I see...  
Chris in Philly : 1/10/2017 12:44 pm : link
the Duperator 3000 is working overtime ferreting out these dupe signups!
RE: Richburg is a redneck  
Mad Mike : 1/10/2017 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13319990 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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I don't know anyone else from Kentucky.

Pretty judgmental when you know so little about people from there. Maybe you should educate yourself about folks with backgrounds like Richburg before judging them so harshly. Posting ignorantly (and admitting it!) is never a good look.
George literally knows no one from Kentucky  
Patrick77 : 1/10/2017 12:54 pm : link
There are rednecks in NY.... crazy I know.
Redneck is a state of mind  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 12:55 pm : link
Anyone from anywhere can be one. When you call out your line mates for not attending a camp in the offseason, that qualifies him. Get over it and don't draw more into it than what is there. I never insulted Kentucky or it's residents.
Patrick  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/10/2017 12:56 pm : link
You are correct
RE: Redneck is a state of mind  
Mad Mike : 1/10/2017 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13320038 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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I never insulted Kentucky or it's residents.

You've made no effort lo these many years to know so much as one person from Kentucky? Hard to see that as anything but an insult to those kind people.
GeorgeAdams33..  
Ryan : 1/10/2017 1:05 pm : link
...is the handle HJ45 logs in under when he decides to mix gin with his Colonease.
RE: I see...  
dorgan : 1/10/2017 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13320011 Chris in Philly said:
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the Duperator 3000 is working overtime ferreting out these dupe signups!


Ron Popeil has a little tweaking to do to it and then you'll see.
RE: GeorgeAdams33..  
jcn56 : 1/10/2017 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13320066 Ryan said:
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...is the handle HJ45 logs in under when he decides to mix gin with his Colonease.


Hang on now, Homer's got a thing for Coughlin, but that's where it ends. He doesn't belong in the same sentence with this POS.
Do Rednecks drive around dragging a stuffed eagle  
montanagiant : 1/10/2017 1:59 pm : link
Or is that just fucktards?
He's a technician that needs to get stronger at the point of attack  
Torrag : 1/10/2017 2:10 pm : link
He's still young and has the frame to get there.
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